gamaliel9:
Undiluted truth with facts... all growth and developmental index by all world economic institutions...This is equally hampered by our very very very slow political development and evolution...a decentralised system would have worked wonders....

Many states are not even viable. They will be a lot of resistance to reform.

solonnachi:
Guys, Chris Giwa & his team have taken over the glass house with the recent withdrawal of the DSS. Which way Naija?

Ban back on .

Isaac Success going on loan to Villa. I thought he would be given a chance after a good preseason.

It also seems like Tammy Abraham will be going on loan to Villa.

All these people drawing up every bad index available in the book about Nigeria are the reason Americans will be asking us if giraffes run around on our streets or if we live on trees.
Nigeria is poor (in certain context), corrupt yes, etc etc.
But the system is not as bad as those damning indexes paint it.
Damn it people go through the education system you guys are condemning , travel out of this country and excel.
I have lived all my life in Nigeria about 3 decades, and a bullet hasn't been aimed at me before, I haven't been robbed before, neither have I witnessed one .
I have a large extended family and non have died in child birth.
I do not deny that some places are insecure or our educational system should be better or the health system should be better.
But for heaven's sake! Stop making it sound as if we are in hell! We can be better , but hell we are not as terrible !!

maidaboi:
The way some people talk about nigeria here you will think you will die the moment you enter nigeria if nigeria is how some talk here then nobody will be alive. shikena

Baba change your siggy

Hanibal:
All these people drawing up every bad index available in the book about Nigeria are the reason Americans will be asking us if giraffes run around on our streets or if we live on trees.
Nigeria is poor (in certain context), corrupt yes, etc etc.
But the system is not as bad as those damning indexes paint it.
Damn it people go through the education system you guys are condemning , travel out of this country and excel.
I have lived all my life in Nigeria about 3 decades, and a bullet hasn't been aimed at me before, I haven't been robbed before, neither have I witnessed one .
I have a large extended family and non have died in child birth.
I do not deny that some places are insecure or our educational system should be better or the health system should be better.
But for heaven's sake! Stop making it sound as if we are in hell! We can be better , but hell we are not as terrible !!

You are talking from your personal experiences but indexes use statistics from all around the country. It is like saying, power supply is good in your area so Nigeria does not have a power problem. But our power generation per capita is still very low.

Before 2013, i had never been attacked and almost shot at by robbers in Nigeria but it happened when i was traveling with my family members in 2013. We were lucky to get away that day. I could have dismissed insecurity threats because i have only faced it once. My aunt died of child birth in avoidable circumstances in 2012, before then, i had never had such a situation.

None of our personal stories tell the complete story of Nigeria but indexes look at the average conditions in the country.

Nigeria has massive potential but we are far, far away from where we should be.

It is true that we have moved from ranking states as first world, second world and third word. Hence the transition to developed country, developing country and underdeveloped country.

If we are to promote the Nigerian brand concept we would refer to ourselves as developing nation. Which can still be the old Second World nation.

Now nations that are largely in developing countries such consist largely of BRICS nations except Russia. BRICS is a fusion of Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. These counties are miles ahead of Nigeria. From TaTa vehicles in India, to Marcopolo buses made in Brazil. These are global brands. Mind you the Chinese still refer to themselves as a developing nation despite how much many of their states along the coastal region are miles developed beyond Singapore.

Look beyond this to the north south gap. Economic power. Organisations like GATT and WTO have only proven to favour the North which refers to the western world.
This is simple political economics. It's a hard pill to swallow, but we must first admit it that we are a Third World country.

somehow:
People and the use of unguarded words.

Nigeria a third world country?

Does some of you even know the definition of that word?

A country that gives aid both financially and otherwise to other countries a third world country?

Not organised- Yes
But a third world? Please go back to school.

For educational purposes: the word "third world" is outdated and ambiguous. What we have are (1) Developed countries (2) Developing countries and (3) Underdeveloped countries.

You can decide where you think Nigeria belong based on your current reality.


Fully back to this thread after a long time out.

(back to reading).

If you don't know Nigeria is a 3rd world country then going back to reading is a good idea. Never mind out dated terms or otherwise.

Kalu's Transfer To Bordeaux On The Brink Of Collapse, NFF Contacted To Falsify Documents

Allnigeriasoccer.com understands that Samuel Kalu's transfer to Bordeaux is on the brink of collapse and the fault lies with the French Ligue 1 club for failing to conduct due diligence before signing the winger.


The rule in France is that a player must have representative caps for one of the national teams before he is qualified to play in the Ligue 1 or the transfer won't be sanctioned by the Ligue de Football Professionnel.

Look no further than the case involving Porto defender Chidozie Awaziem, who was hurriedly handed an undeserved debut by Nigeria manager Gernot Rohr in a 2019 Africa Cup of Nations qualifier against South Africa shortly before his transfer to Nantes last summer, but that story is for another day.

Samuel Kalu's camp is doing everything possible to stop Bordeaux pulling out of the deal and it is one hundred percent confirmed that they have contacted the Nigeria Football Federation to falsify documents showing the winger earlier played for one of the national teams.

The former Gent starlet has been omitted for Bordeaux trip to Odessa, where they face Marioupol in the third qualifying round of the Europa League on Thursday, despite being fit.

Bordeaux press chief Aurelie Carrey was contacted for the club's official version but she did not answer several calls placed to her phone.


Is this true?

Abusule007:
Kalu's Transfer To Bordeaux On The Brink Of Collapse, NFF Contacted To Falsify Documents

Allnigeriasoccer.com understands that Samuel Kalu's transfer to Bordeaux is on the brink of collapse and the fault lies with the French Ligue 1 club for failing to conduct due diligence before signing the winger.


The rule in France is that a player must have representative caps for one of the national teams before he is qualified to play in the Ligue 1 or the transfer won't be sanctioned by the Ligue de Football Professionnel.

Look no further than the case involving Porto defender Chidozie Awaziem, who was hurriedly handed an undeserved debut by Nigeria manager Gernot Rohr in a 2019 Africa Cup of Nations qualifier against South Africa shortly before his transfer to Nantes last summer, but that story is for another day.

Samuel Kalu's camp is doing everything possible to stop Bordeaux pulling out of the deal and it is one hundred percent confirmed that they have contacted the Nigeria Football Federation to falsify documents showing the winger earlier played for one of the national teams.

The former Gent starlet has been omitted for Bordeaux trip to Odessa, where they face Marioupol in the third qualifying round of the Europa League on Thursday, despite being fit.

Bordeaux press chief Aurelie Carrey was contacted for the club's official version but she did not answer several calls placed to her phone.


Is this true?

False...

wayodude:


If you don't know Nigeria is a 3rd world country then going back to reading is a good idea. Never mind out dated terms or otherwise.

World politics 101:

The term first world, second world and third world countries were termed during the era of cold war.

First world countries = The alied forces/countries (capitalist).

Second world countries = The opposition forces/countries (Communist).

Third world countries = Neither here nor there (countries that didn't belong to any of the above).

So before you use words you have no clue of, kindly research for educational purposes.

In economics, what we have are : Developed, Developing and underdeveloped countries.

Argue this with the internet and WTO.

M7even:
It is true that we have moved from ranking states as first world, second world and third word. Hence the transition to developed country, developing country and underdeveloped country.

If we are to promote the Nigerian brand concept we would refer to ourselves as developing nation. Which can still be the old Second World nation.

Now nations that are largely in developing countries such consist largely of BRICS nations except Russia. BRICS is a fusion of Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. These counties are miles ahead of Nigeria. From TaTa vehicles in India, to Marcopolo buses made in Brazil. These are global brands. Mind you the Chinese still refer to themselves as a developing nation despite how much many of their states along the coastal region are miles developed beyond Singapore.

Look beyond this to the north south gap. Economic power. Organisations like GATT and WTO have only proven to favour the North which refers to the western world.
This is simple political economics. It's a hard pill to swallow, but we must first admit it that we are a Third World country.

If countries are placed into 3 categories Nigeria is a bonafide candidate for the bottom of those 3 categories, regardless of the terminology being used in their description.

Anyone who contests this with me is not widely travelled and I challenge anyone wanting to prove me wrong to provide a list of countries they have been to.

Humility017:


I see dalung as the next to be sacked by the VP.

Is Dalung the man pushing Giwa?

somehow:


World politics 101:

The term first world, second world and third world countries were termed during the era of cold war.

First world countries = The alied forces/countries (capitalist).

Second world countries = The opposition forces/countries (Communist).

Third world countries = Neither here nor there (countries that didn't belong to any of the above).

So before you use words you have no clue of, kindly research for educational purposes.

In economics, what we have are : Developed, Developing and underdeveloped countries.

Argue this with the internet and WTO.

Sure I know this was the original intent in categorising countries into 1st-3rd world. But you and I know that the application of these titles were eventually not aligned with the communist/capitalist definition.

Joebie:
“What makes a nation third world?
Despite everevolving definitions, the concept of the third world serves to identify countries that suffer from high infant mortality, low economic development, high levels of poverty, low utilization of natural resources, and heavy dependence on industrialized nations. These are the developing and technologically less advanced nations of Asia, Africa, Oceania, and Latin America. Third world nations tend to have economies dependent on the developed countries and are generally characterized as poor with unstable governments and having high rates of population growth, illiteracy, and disease. A key factor is the lack of a middle class — with impoverished millions in a vast lower economic class and a very small elite upper class controlling the country's wealth and resources. Most third world nations also have a very large foreign debt.
(What makes a nation third world? from Encyclopedia of World Geography)“

http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/third_world_countries.htm

Modified
Definitions from the link:

__ Definitions

point The term "First World" refers to so called developed, capitalist, industrial countries, roughly, a bloc of countries aligned with the United States after World War II, with more or less common political and economic interests: North America, Western Europe, Japan and Australia.

Countries of the "First World"



point "Second World" refers to the former communist-socialist, industrial states, (formerly the Eastern bloc, the territory and sphere of influence of the Union of Soviet Socialists Republic) today: Russia, Eastern Europe (e.g., Poland) and some of the Turk States (e.g., Kazakhstan) as well as China.

Countries of the "Second World"



point "Third World" are all the other countries, today often used to roughly describe the developing countries of Africa, Asia and Latin America.
The term Third World includes as well capitalist (e.g., Venezuela) and communist (e.g., North Korea) countries, as very rich (e.g., Saudi Arabia) and very poor (e.g., Mali) countries.


Countries of the "Third World"
Third World Countries classified by various indices: their Political Rights and Civil Liberties, the Gross National Income (GNI) and Poverty of countries, the Human Development of countries (HDI), and the Freedom of Information within a country.

Like i said, that word is outdated and was originally used to seperate countries based on politicial alignments. Refer to my previous post.

You're either Developed, developing or underdeveloped.

NIgeria is in the middle, we're not underdeveloped nor are we developed. So no matter the definition you come up with or the english you prefer to use, Nigeria will never be tagged a third world country.

From your own link, see this.
http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/least_developed_countries.htm

https://data.worldbank.org/region/least-developed-countries:-un-classification

http://unctad.org/en/Pages/ALDC/Least%20Developed%20Countries/UN-list-of-Least-Developed-Countries.aspx

Joebie:
I just saw this in TVC news bar. I have to verify

What did you see sir?

Joebie:
Very untrue. You cannot generalize when it comes to private universities, take it from me. It’s not business as usual in every school. As it stands it’s private universities that would save Nigeria’s tertiary education. As ironic as that may sound, mark my words. I know a private university that graduates fully baked students ready for the REAL world. Many of these graduates who take up running businesses are doing fine. Solid education no be about read and pour out for exam. Take it from me.

I gave you an example, not exactly a general statement. I mean the dude was my course mate but he failed his MBBS and had to graduate in MCB and graduated with second class upper and that's how he got the lecturing job at Landmark. The problem is that lecturers there sef are not well paid, let me not start what we can't finish. By the way if private universities are going to be our saviour like you put it, then why aren't they there yet? See UI, just little investment and they broke into the top 1000 in the world, if the government could spend half as much as these private schools spend on infrastructure and all what not, trust me we would have at least 10 public universities in the top 500 at least. Forget the long talk, public universities with proper funding would easily save Nigeria's education system

wayodude:


Sure I know this was the original intent in categorising countries into 1st-3rd world. But you and I know that the application of these titles were eventually not aligned with the communist/capitalist definition.

That is why the term is no longer in use and was never about development or economics.

Nigeria is a developing country and not an underdeveloped country.

Lagos IGR alone can serve as budget to more than 30 countries around the world. Meaning more than 30 countries in the world don't make what lagos alone make in a year.

Our GDP is also not that low, we're above that of "underdeveloped nations".

We have money in Nigeria but wasting away by being under utilised, stolen or untapped.

Abusule007:
Kalu's Transfer To Bordeaux On The Brink Of Collapse, NFF Contacted To Falsify Documents

Allnigeriasoccer.com understands that Samuel Kalu's transfer to Bordeaux is on the brink of collapse and the fault lies with the French Ligue 1 club for failing to conduct due diligence before signing the winger.


The rule in France is that a player must have representative caps for one of the national teams before he is qualified to play in the Ligue 1 or the transfer won't be sanctioned by the Ligue de Football Professionnel.

Look no further than the case involving Porto defender Chidozie Awaziem, who was hurriedly handed an undeserved debut by Nigeria manager Gernot Rohr in a 2019 Africa Cup of Nations qualifier against South Africa shortly before his transfer to Nantes last summer, but that story is for another day.

Samuel Kalu's camp is doing everything possible to stop Bordeaux pulling out of the deal and it is one hundred percent confirmed that they have contacted the Nigeria Football Federation to falsify documents showing the winger earlier played for one of the national teams.

The former Gent starlet has been omitted for Bordeaux trip to Odessa, where they face Marioupol in the third qualifying round of the Europa League on Thursday, despite being fit.

Bordeaux press chief Aurelie Carrey was contacted for the club's official version but she did not answer several calls placed to her phone.


Is this true?

Ans is fraud.

Abusule007:
Kalu's Transfer To Bordeaux On The Brink Of Collapse, NFF Contacted To Falsify Documents

Allnigeriasoccer.com understands that Samuel Kalu's transfer to Bordeaux is on the brink of collapse and the fault lies with the French Ligue 1 club for failing to conduct due diligence before signing the winger.


The rule in France is that a player must have representative caps for one of the national teams before he is qualified to play in the Ligue 1 or the transfer won't be sanctioned by the Ligue de Football Professionnel.

Look no further than the case involving Porto defender Chidozie Awaziem, who was hurriedly handed an undeserved debut by Nigeria manager Gernot Rohr in a 2019 Africa Cup of Nations qualifier against South Africa shortly before his transfer to Nantes last summer, but that story is for another day.

Samuel Kalu's camp is doing everything possible to stop Bordeaux pulling out of the deal and it is one hundred percent confirmed that they have contacted the Nigeria Football Federation to falsify documents showing the winger earlier played for one of the national teams.

The former Gent starlet has been omitted for Bordeaux trip to Odessa, where they face Marioupol in the third qualifying round of the Europa League on Thursday, despite being fit.

Bordeaux press chief Aurelie Carrey was contacted for the club's official version but she did not answer several calls placed to her phone.


Is this true?

U guys remember this message from chriskels?

ChrisKels:
Samuel Kalu has done a SiMoses on Toni Harris. He has dumped Toni for an Israeli agent Dudu. Now expect some malicious articles from allnigeriasoccer.com on Kalu just like they have been doing to Simon Moses since he dumped Toni.

forgiveness:


Ans is fraud.

tbaba1234:


False...

wayodude:


Sure I know this was the original intent in categorising countries into 1st-3rd world. But you and I know that the application of these titles were eventually not aligned with the communist/capitalist definition.

Who defines you!

ChrisKels:


U guys remember this message from chriskels?

Spot on, i was about to say that

tbaba1234:


Spot on, i was about to say that

Trust me ANS and their friend Toni Harris aint got no honour whatsoever. They aint gonna let go without fighting dirty trynna defame a character.

I can see Akinyemi Adeleke and Gong Hillary both dumping him too soon. Toni is such a selfish agent. He is a crook

tbaba1234:
Nigeria is a poor, corrupt and complicated third world country.

I was working with an Organization who wanted to bring some major energy investments to Africa. I tried to suggest Nigeria but they were reluctant because Nigeria is too 'complicated'. They would rather do the projects in smaller African countries or a "progressive" state within Nigeria not national level.

Our GDP is the highest in Africa but it is peanuts per capita. We have one of the lowest electricity generation per capita on the continent. We are plagued with unemployment, disease and crime. What exactly makes us not 3rd world.

In 2011, i wanted to rent a house but when the landlady learnt that i was originally from Nigeria, she immediately became suspicious and was making some crazy requests. Apparently, she was almost duped by yahoo yahoo from Nigeria. This is the kind of image that we create for ourselves all over the world. Criminals, drug dealers, prostitutes etc..

We have so many talented people within and outside Nigeria but the environment does not help them thrive or reach their potential. Mediocrity is celebrated, Corruption is a culture. A person who tries to do the right thing is public enemy number 1. The people are only interested in public office to make money. Political officers flaunt their stolen wealth to us and they still have hoards of supporters. We enable, support and cheer the corruption that holds us back as a country.

So yes, Nigeria is a third world country and unless we get serious minded people in the right places, it will remain the same for a long time.

Once again agreed without reservation

Exclusive: Lateef Omidiji has left Feyenord and will be joining Ajax next season.

He was denied a chance to go on trial with Real Madrid and Man City by the Feyenord authorities. They also rejected a $100k deal from Ajax to sign Lateef.

Lateef lodged a complaint with KNVB and a deal was reached that he does not go to a rival team. He has currently joined Go Ahead Eagles under 17 but trains once a week with Ajax.

He will join Ajax officially next season.

Chelsea youngster Ola Aina could join Torino on a season-long loan deal.

The 21-year-old spent last season with Hull City, but is interested in testing himself abroad. Eredivisie champions PSV have also shown interest.

QPR have also enquired about loaning the right-back.

Aina, who was born in London, has won five caps for Nigeria, but missed out on the Super Eagles' World Cup squad.


Read more at http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/chelsea-youngster-aina-keen-on-foreign-loan-as-torino-psv-circle-4243331#xlpSBc85K2A8PgJT.99

Abusule007:
Kalu's Transfer To Bordeaux On The Brink Of Collapse, NFF Contacted To Falsify Documents

Allnigeriasoccer.com understands that Samuel Kalu's transfer to Bordeaux is on the brink of collapse and the fault lies with the French Ligue 1 club for failing to conduct due diligence before signing the winger.


The rule in France is that a player must have representative caps for one of the national teams before he is qualified to play in the Ligue 1 or the transfer won't be sanctioned by the Ligue de Football Professionnel.

Look no further than the case involving Porto defender Chidozie Awaziem, who was hurriedly handed an undeserved debut by Nigeria manager Gernot Rohr in a 2019 Africa Cup of Nations qualifier against South Africa shortly before his transfer to Nantes last summer, but that story is for another day.

Samuel Kalu's camp is doing everything possible to stop Bordeaux pulling out of the deal and it is one hundred percent confirmed that they have contacted the Nigeria Football Federation to falsify documents showing the winger earlier played for one of the national teams.

The former Gent starlet has been omitted for Bordeaux trip to Odessa, where they face Marioupol in the third qualifying round of the Europa League on Thursday, despite being fit.

Bordeaux press chief Aurelie Carrey was contacted for the club's official version but she did not answer several calls placed to her phone.


Is this true?

False news by ANS,thats how they always do with moses simon,now its samuel kalu

ChrisKels:
After sealing Adama Traore's deal recently, we are preparing yet another big deal(£36ml) for AC Milan's midfield dynamo Frank Kessie.

Wolves a team to watch in the EPL

Wolves is a team to watch,they even bought an experience Joao Moutinho fro Monaco,but i am not sure if they can get frank kessie from millan,its almost impossible

gamaliel9:


Personally,Kessie is not that wonderfui now...the Kessie of Atalanta was better than Kessie of AC Milan

Bro kessie is wonderful, frank kessie is compared to winfired ndidi in terms of market value,i am not saying he is better than ndidi but dont say he is not wonderful

Kessie played 37 seria A games last season and scored 5 goals,he is a defensive midfielders

tbaba1234:


I do not rate him that highly either but he has done well for himself. He was the captain of Cote d'voire 2013 under 17 team. He was not more talented than Musa Muhammad but he made the right career choices.

Na u17 una dey use judge player? Why are Nigerians like this? must he be better than musa mohammed in u17? bros senior team football is the main deal and not youth football.

He played well for atlanta and ac millan got him and he is a regular at AC millan,and you did not rate him highly,Antonio tried to get him for chelsea but the deal could not work out he end up at AC Millan

Mosa mohammed has joined croatia club,is that not backward? After some people here will say he should be invited for the super eagles,Make he no go join malta club from there.

Joebie:
Very untrue. You cannot generalize when it comes to private universities, take it from me. It’s not business as usual in every school. As it stands it’s private universities that would save Nigeria’s tertiary education. As ironic as that may sound, mark my words. I know a private university that graduates fully baked students ready for the REAL world. Many of these graduates who take up running businesses are doing fine. Solid education no be about read and pour out for exam. Take it from me.

aside Covenant, Babcock, and ABUAD, you would be hard-pressed to find a decent private University in Nigeria, most of them are just filled with kids whose parents wanted to get rid of them early and bundled them to the first school that would take them.

You cannot compare them to public schools like UNN, UI, Unillorin or Unizik, especially as regards professional courses.

I remember the day Nike University in Abuja visited my school's Law Clinic, we were all scandalized by their outfits even. In most Law Faculties in Nigeria, they make us wear black trousers with white corporate shirts and a tie for guys, with black shoes. These kids didn't even wear the black and white outfit, some of them had on slippers, no tie, one was dressed like batman and another was dressed like she was going clubbing. We were all shocked they would let their students dress in that manner for an official outing and about a week later, when some of us had to visit their school, the DG of Law School had to ask our students to stand up to show the Nike University students how to dress up as a Law student.

If they can't teach them something that basic, what else are they missing out on?

See ehn, aside Covenant, Babcock and ABUAD, every other private school in this Nigeria na wash

somehow:
People and the use of unguarded words.

Nigeria a third world country?

Does some of you even know the definition of that word?

A country that gives aid both financially and otherwise to other countries a third world country?

Not organised- Yes
But a third world? Please go back to school.

For educational purposes: the word "third world" is outdated and ambiguous. What we have are (1) Developed countries (2) Developing countries and (3) Underdeveloped countries.

You can decide where you think Nigeria belong based on your current reality.


Fully back to this thread after a long time out.

(back to reading).

Sir JOEBIE have given you the factors to be considered before a sovereign entity is classified as a first,second ,third or fourth world .

By every ramification, Nigeria is a third world country (as long as the first, second and third world tags are deemed to still exist.

Nigeria should have been like India, China, Taiwan etc and some other countries that are using various means to turn their fortunes around but the Nigerian past and present governments have all failed at that.

It’s sad to say that in 2016, Nigeria has not even a single product selling at the world stage.

Oil isn’t an invention. We are simply lucky that we have it in our soil. But here is where it gets sad:

Unlike other nations that have oil, Nigeria is unable to fully refine it’s oil.

We license foreign companies to extract these oil for us.

We sell them at the international market at the global oil price.

US and co buy those crude oil from us.

They refine them.

And then we buy these crude oil bi-products from them.

Oil is our only foreign exchange business that is worthy of note and we can’t even take full control of it.

“Made In Nigeria” is a label you won’t see on the international market and people will have faith in it.
( FRANKLIN EGBUCHE)