One is really a central midfielder, the other is really an attacking midfielder. The central midfielder as expected is better in possession while the attacking midfielder scores more and makes more assists.
They are both world class but one is more accomplished than the other by virtue of the teams he has played in. This question has no answer.

eph12:

Abeg stop making noise. It's a simple question which you can either say City or you move on.

I want to understand something. So swapping just Kroos for KDB will automatically give City a higher chance of winning the CL? If KDB is a better player, why hasn't he won the CL in the City that he is already in? Or haven't the same players that will play with Kroos already been playing with KDB?

Unlimited22:

Even without swapping both players, Madrid will have a higher chance of winning the UCL than City. I don't know the point you're trying to prove.

You all bringing up the trophies yeah? So imagine kroos was at City and KDB was at Madrid this period, which of those teams would have been a safer bet to win the Champions League?

eph12:

Swap both players last two to three seasons and tell us which team has the higher chance of winning the Champions League

you think kroos only performs in real Madrid?, where was debruyne in 2014 world cup when kroos was the best midfielder at age 24?

eph12:

You all bringing up the trophies yeah? So imagine kroos was at City and KDB was at Madrid this period, which of those teams would have been a safer bet to win the Champions League?

kroos won a world cup and a champions league(played 2 finals) before he came to Madrid,so this point is totally false

Unlimited22:

I want to understand something. So swapping just Kroos for KDB will automatically give City a higher chance of winning the CL? If KDB is a better player, why hasn't he won the CL in the City that he is already in? Or haven't the same players that will play with Kroos already been playing with KDB?

LOL! Don't know what to say again o. You agree Kroos is a better player because he has won the Champions League these multiple times yeah?

madrid5:
kroos won a world cup and a champions league(played 2 finals) before he came to Madrid,so this point is totally false

It's not a point sister, it's a simple question.

patrickmuf:
Put Kroos in Man Utd and Pogba in Madrid and your argument will favour Pogba

You realise Kroos in his career has played as

Winger

Attacking Midfielder

Central Midfielder

even plays Left midfield in a 442 diamond dictating plays from there and covering up for Marcelo's attacking runs?

Maybe you should start watching him in Laliga rather than looking for Kroos in EPL matches?

afrodoc2:

One is really a central midfielder, the other is really an attacking midfielder. The central midfielder as expected is better in possession while the attacking midfielder scores more and makes more assists.
They are both world class but one is more accomplished than the other by virtue of the teams he has played in. This question has no answer.

I repeat if KDB is better than kroos by virtue of his end product and playing in lesser teams then Erikson is better than xavi.

eph12:

You all bringing up the trophies yeah? So imagine kroos was at City and KDB was at Madrid this period, which of those teams would have been a safer bet to win the Champions League?

Madrid.
And look at Toni's contribution to their winning teams.
Well, I think I'll just go with what afrodoc2 said.
KDB plays in more advanced roles than Kroos.
Also the person who talked about Jorginho not playing with KDB should be happy he didn't go to City. Their midfield would have been impossible to mark with him, and he was to be brought to slowly replace Fernandinho, who is now 33.

madrid5:
you think kroos only performs in real Madrid?, where was debruyne in 2014 world cup when kroos was the best midfielder at age 24?

We talking about now ago.

Why I hate it when people bring up Mourinho's past years achievement. We talking now oga, present qualities. Whether it was there donkey years ago I don't care. I get am before no be property

eph12:

It's not a point sister, it's a simple question.

a question which I have trashed,kroos at 24 before real Madrid has already played at a higher level than debruyne now.

eph12:

LOL! Don't know what to say again o. You agree Kroos is a better player because he has won the Champions League these multiple times yeah?

Oga, na ball we dey watch for field. I agree Toni is a better player because he's been a great contributor to Madrid and Bayern's cause to win those trophies.
I may say yes in this case but you will never hear me say Benzema is a better striker than Aguero because of UCL.

Stats for their best performing WC tournament

And since anytime we call Hazard someone will say no WC no Euro no UCL final, no one should call KDB because his assists have been in a LOCAL LEAGUE.

Coutinho14:
KDB will most definitely start ahead of Toni Kroos, it's that simple bruv. He has a greater influence on the game than Kroos and also play him at dm and he will bench Casimiro. Stop being sentimental, there's no line up in the world he won't walk straight into

Let me ask you, would KDB bench Sergio Busquets too?

eph12:

We talking about now ago.

Why I hate it when people bring up Mourinho's past years achievement. We talking now oga, present qualities. Whether it was there donkey years ago I don't care. I get am before no be property

you are dancing around a corner, first you said kroos is gifted his trophies at Madrid, I give you kroos outside Madrid you dey talk of timeline,lol.

hopefulLandlord:


Let me ask you, would KDB bench Sergio Busquets too?

Maybe he should be benching Fernandinho at City or should have benched Matic at Chelsea.
Perhaps he should have benched Witsel at the World Cup.

Unlimited22:

Madrid.
And look at Toni's contribution to their winning teams.
Well, I think I'll just go with what afrodoc2 said.
KDB plays in more advanced roles than Kroos.
Also the person who talked about Jorginho not playing with KDB should be happy he didn't go to City. Their midfield would have been impossible to mark with him, and he was to be brought to slowly replace Fernandinho, who is now 33.

So can we safely trash those points of winning the Champions League back to back? Because if there was a swap, Madrid will still have a much higher chance of winning the Champions League than City, even with best player Kroos

eph12:

So can we safely trash those points of winning the Champions League back to back? Because if there was a swap, Madrid will still have a much higher chance of winning the Champions League than City, even with best player Kroos

so by your logic who is the better player between prime erikson and xavi?

Coutinho14:
the Bleep is this guy saying? xavi at 28 was already the best midfielder in la liga , Kroos isn't as indispensable as you think.A whole lot of midfielders are better than him (Coutinho , KDB, Eriksen and possibly Veratti) and you dare compare him to Xavi? you need help

This is exactly where you ruin your own argument. what qualities does Xavi have that KDB doesn't according to you? because from where I stand I can think of many things KDB does that Xavi never did. What makes KDB better than Kroos makes him also better than Xavi. You want to eat your cake and have it due to your being a barca fan hey? You suddenly got sentimental when Xavi was mentioned not realising what makes Xavi so good was his consistency in his role just like what makes Kroos so good.

If you dare to engage this I promise you you would make a uturn on your KDB > Kroos conclusion

afrodoc2:

One is really a central midfielder, the other is really an attacking midfielder. The central midfielder as expected is better in possession while the attacking midfielder scores more and makes more assists.
They are both world class but one is more accomplished than the other by virtue of the teams he has played in. This question has no answer.

Kroos plays with Modric and Cas, KDB plays with Silva and Fernad. How is their situation different?

If people are to talk about the major difference makers in Madrid's midfield, Modric and Cas would be mentioned first and second before Kroos. Do you agree?

hopefulLandlord:


Hehehehehe

I think what's really happening here is that people tend to think the player that is more visible in midfield must be better than the player they hardly notice

People like this wouldn't think twice before benching Sergio Busquets for Kante just because Kante is so visible with his running and hassling of opponents while all they see Busquets do is take the ball, feign a direction change and pass to the nearest man. Anybody can do that right? or at least many players can do that

Bousquet is overrated. Bousquet can only strive in ball possession team like Barca under pep. It’s not a co incident that Barca are now signing ishun players to cover Bousquet deficiency as DM. Meanwhile Kante can play for any team and tactics. Bousquet is very limited as a player. Kante>>Bousquet.

madrid5:
so by your logic who is the better player between prime erikson and xavi?

Xavi
Barca has bought over 5 midfielders trying to replace Xavi

eph12:

Xavi
Barca has bought over 5 midfielders trying to replace Xavi

have they bought Erikson?

eph12:

Kroos plays with Modric and Cas, KDB plays with Silva and Fernad. How is their situation different?

If people are to talk about the major difference makers in Madrid's midfield, Modric and Cas would be mentioned first and second before Kroos. Do you agree?

casemero is only mention over kroos in the place where you drink shekpe

hensben:
Bousquet is overrated. Bousquet can only strive in ball possession team like Barca under pep. It’s not a co incident that Barca are now signing ishun players to cover Bousquet deficiency as DM. Meanwhile Kante can play for any team and tactics. Bousquet is very limited as a player. Kante>>Bousquet.

"Kante can play for any team and tactics" I like this rubbish

Kante came to prominence in a defensive and counterattacking Leicester City

Moved to a defensive and counterattacking Chelsea under Conte

Played in a French team that plays defensive and counterattack whenever they face a top team


But in your head Kante would play any style even though the teams he's played in are all counterattacking teams at best?

Now let me ask you though? why is Busquets who has only played possession team ruled out from being able to play other styles but Kante is not judged by same metric?

madrid5:
have they bought Erikson?

By the way Xavi has a more advanced midfielder in front of him, Erickson plays as the most advanced midfielder out of 3.

eph KDB is also better than xavi,xavi played with better midfielder +messi

I see people that define a player with stat as kids who started watching football post cr7 and Messi era. Stat is fraudulent due to so many things to be put into consideration before comparing two players playing for different club and league, so is number of trophies or trophies won to rate two players considering football is a team sport, not lawn tennis.

eph12:

By the way Xavi has a more advanced midfielder in front of him, Erickson plays as the most advanced midfielder out of 3.

so you don't know debruyne plays advanced role than kroos before speaking blasphemy?,baba forget excuse xavi had better midfielders +messi thats why he is not better than Erikson.

hopefulLandlord:


"Kante can play for any team and tactics" I like this rubbish

Kante came to prominence in a defensive and counterattacking Leicester City

Moved to a defensive and counterattacking Chelsea under Conte

Played in a French team that plays defensive and counterattack whenever they face a top team


But in your head Kante would play any style even though the teams he's played in are all counterattacking teams at best?

Now let me ask you though? why is Busquets who has only played possession team ruled out from being able to play other styles but Kante is not judged by same metric?

So is Sarri playing a defensive abi na Counter attack game with Chelsea now?