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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 6:59am On Aug 25, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


I will take the words of a Manager of a team like Algeria and a top journalist in the country who agreed with the manager and explained why.

Finito.
I'll also take Rohr's word who brought back Ighalo and benched Nacho.
Finito

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:52am On Aug 25, 2018
edi287:

I'll also take Rohr's word who brought back Ighalo and benched Nacho.
Finito

I wonder how this relates to the Algerian manager saying Nacho did well in the game against Algeria. You are abusing the word Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:54am On Aug 25, 2018
edi287:

Explosive in what aspect?? Ighalo has had better performances in his first season at Watford in the epl if we're being objective.
Nacho is a better finisher and has a final ball. Anything else he lags behind Ighalo. Ighalo was turning CBs inside out in his first epl season with the "Ighalo scoop". So abeg don't make it seem he's like Jan Koller or Giroud

Watch Nacho vs Aston Villa and see what an explosive performance looks like. Then tell me Ighalo ever came close to that.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:55am On Aug 25, 2018
edi287:

Explosive in what aspect?? Ighalo has had better performances in his first season at Watford in the epl if we're being objective.
Nacho is a better finisher and has a final ball. Anything else he lags behind Ighalo. Ighalo was turning CBs inside out in his first epl season with the "Ighalo scoop". So abeg don't make it seem he's like Jan Koller or Giroud

Lol. I doubt you have seen Nacho pass and cross.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 8:57am On Aug 25, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Lol. I doubt you have seen Nacho pass and cross.

I've never seen Nacho cross a ball

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:59am On Aug 25, 2018
edi287:

Explosive in what aspect?? Ighalo has had better performances in his first season at Watford in the epl if we're being objective.
Nacho is a better finisher and has a final ball. Anything else he lags behind Ighalo. Ighalo was turning CBs inside out in his first epl season with the "Ighalo scoop". So abeg don't make it seem he's like Jan Koller or Giroud

Please, watch Nacho deliver the art of an a striker doing what I term the deep lying striking role where he drops deep and creates for a forward player. Look at his pass and tell me Ighalo can do this in his life time.

No disrespect to Ighalo.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvW__0WADtk

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:11am On Aug 25, 2018
Rohr Confident Pre-Seychelles : Targets Plenty Goals, Eagles To Train & Play On Synthetic Pitch

Nigeria Manager Gernot Rohr is confident ahead of his wards' 2019 Africa Cup of Nations (AFCON) qualifier against Seychelles on September 7.

At a world press conference in Lagos on Friday, Rohr, unveiled a list of three goalkeepers, eight defenders, six midfielders and seven forwards for the game.

"We have a good team going into the match. We are confident going to the game against Seychelles," he said.

The foxy coach is building for the future and he has invited four new faces including Porto B playmaker Kelechi Nwakali to the Eagles team for the make or mar fixture.

"We have invited four new players to beef up the team. They are Jamilu Collins, Semi Ajayi, Kelechi Nwakali and Samuel Kalu.

"All the new boys will add quality to the team," Rhor assured at a press conference attended by allnigeriasoccer.com on Friday.

The Super Eagles boss gave an insight on what to expect from his wards in the game against Seychelles in September.

"I want to see goals, victory, a team playing with motivation," the Franco-German said with an infectious smile.

"The major objective is to see a team that gives joy and entertainment.

"I want to see goals and players approaching game with confidence,'' he added.

The AFCON qualifier will be played at the Stade Linité (Roche Caïman (Mahé), which is a synthetic pitch.

"We will train three times at a synthetic grass. We want to practice on this special pitch before the game to be used to it and have possibility of playing different brand of football.

"We must play short and precise passes. It will be interesting for us to prepare ahead of the game. We will be fine."

Both Nigeria and Seychelles are without points after they lost their opening qualifiers.


**Abayomi Ademetan

Source: ANS

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:34am On Aug 25, 2018
Rohr: I Rejected Big Offers To Remain Super Eagles Coach
By Adeboye Amosu

Super Eagles head coach, Gernot Rohr, has revealed that he rejected lucrative offers from some countries after the 2018 FIFA World Cup in Russia to stay put with with the team, Completesportsnigeria.com reports.

The likes of Clemens Westerhof, Bora Mulitonovic and Lars Largerback all left unceremoniously after Super Eagles exit at the previous World Cups.

Rohr, who extended his contract with the Nigeria Football Federation before the World Cup in Russia guided the team through a successful qualifying campaign but came under scrutiny after the team failed to progress beyond the group stage at the mundial after winning just one game.


There were calls for Rohr to be sacked, but the NFF decided to back the German.

“I got good offers from countries who were at the World Cup, but in the end I decided I want to continue working here in Nigeria,” Rohr stated during his interaction with the media in Lagos on Friday.

“I like the team we have here and the NFF has made the environment very conducive for me, so I don’t see any reason why I should leave now.

” I hope this team will be better in future and it is important to continue the good work we started.

Rohr will now hope to help the Super Eagles qualify for the 2019 Africa Cup of Nations in Cameroon after the team missed out the last two editions.

The Super Eagles will face Seychelles in their game against on September 7 in Victoria.


Source: CSN

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 9:42am On Aug 25, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Lol. I doubt you have seen Nacho pass and cross.
You said "explosive". I have already said Nacho is a good finisher and has a better final pass.
But Nacho doesn't bully defenders the way peak Ighalo did.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 9:45am On Aug 25, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Please, watch Nacho deliver the art of an a striker doing what I term the deep lying striking role where he drops deep and creates for a forward player. Look at his pass and tell me Ighalo can do this in his life time.

No disrespect to Ighalo.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvW__0WADtk
I watched this game. Now go watch the game where Ighalo scored twice against Liverpool. I can only find the goals to that game, but Ighalo raped Sakho that day.
You are indirectly proving my point that Nacho can't lead the line BTW

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 9:47am On Aug 25, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Watch Nacho vs Aston Villa and see what an explosive performance looks like. Then tell me Ighalo ever came close to that.
Ighalo vs Liverpool. Show me one game where Nacho raped a big defender the way Ighalo did that day against Sakho.
Ighalo at his best dominated Sakho and Koscienly. Show me a game where Nacho has dominated a top 6 defender
Remember you said "explosive"...not me

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 9:49am On Aug 25, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


I wonder how this relates to the Algerian manager saying Nacho did well in the game against Algeria. You are abusing the word Finito.
No I'm not. Nacho did not lead the line well in that game. He just buzzed around unnecessarily. How many times did he link up play?? He pressed their defense and that was it.
In an attacking sense, he was average. Simple. Everyone here saw the difference when Ighalo came in against Cameroon and Zambia

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 9:52am On Aug 25, 2018
Humility017:


you see why I am angry with rohr...
please just give me reasons why billing, eze and deji were not invited.
invitation of the the first two players would have been a coup.
with these match....they will get to play and as well test their preparedness for national team football.

Did billing tell you he want to play for naija ?

You want deji to be invited a player who doesn't play for first team of his club,Nigerians you guys we never change with the type of mediocre you want in the team

Kelechi nwakali I wonder wetin him dey do there,a Porto b player in a national team,now you want deji to be there ?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:52am On Aug 25, 2018
edi287:

No I'm not. Nacho did not lead the line well in that game. He just buzzed around unnecessarily. How many times did he link up play?? He pressed their defense and that was it.
In an attacking sense, he was average. Simple. Everyone here saw the difference when Ighalo came in against Cameroon and Zambia

You definitely do not see the difference. The buzzing around you refer to is the strength Nacho brings to our team. The mobility disorganizes the opposition and gives our other players room to exploit.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:56am On Aug 25, 2018
edi287:

Ighalo vs Liverpool. Show me one game way Nacho raped a big defender the way Ighalo did that day against Sakho.
Ighalo at his best dominated Sakho and Koscienly. Show me a game where Nacho has dominated a top 6 defenders.
Remember you said "explosive"...not me

Which one is dominating a player. I am talking of lighting the pitch on fire or scoring goals that have jaws dropping. Shooting with insane ability. In that respect, Nacho trumps. Not even a debate.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:02am On Aug 25, 2018
Earthquake1:


I've never seen Nacho cross a ball

Check 2:00 of the video and see Nacho cross the ball. Now, you have seen Nacho cross.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkCwL-O8kPQ
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:03am On Aug 25, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


I will take the words of a Manager of a team like Algeria and a top journalist in the country who agreed with the manager and explained why.

Finito.

Are you still on about this?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 10:03am On Aug 25, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Which one is dominating a player. I am talking of lighting the pitch on fire or scoring goals that have jaws dropping. Shooting with insane ability. In that respect, Nacho trumps. Not even a debate.
You said explosive. Use your words better. I don't think anyone here ever argued that Ighalo was a better finisher than Nacho.
The argument is who is the better option as a lone striker?? The answer to anyone who has watched both is Ighalo without a doubt.
My opinion of Nacho has been consistent way from time...Great finisher, good final pass and an average dribbler.
You said Ighalo never had the explosive start Iheanacho did at epl but I reminded you of his first season at Watford. Simple.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:07am On Aug 25, 2018
edi287:

You said explosive. Use your words better. I don't think anyone here ever argued that Ighalo was a better finisher than Nacho.
The argument is who is the better option as a lone striker?? The answer to anyone who has watched both is Ighalo without a doubt.
My opinion of Nacho has been consistent way from time...Great finisher, good final pass and an average dribbler.
You said Ighalo never had the explosive start Iheanacho did at epl but I reminded you of his first season at Watford. Simple.


I have said the reason why some of you rave of lone striker talk is because you guys are used to conservative approach of long balls to strikers. If we talk with respect of controlled, cohesive, attacking play, we will need a player with movement and quickness. As pointed out, Nacho has thrived as a lone striker. It is just a myth. The top marksmen in the game today rely more on movement than power.

That is why you are talking of an outdated bullying of defenders.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 10:09am On Aug 25, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


You definitely do not see the difference. The buzzing around you refer to is the strength Nacho brings to our team. The mobility disorganizes the opposition and gives our other players room to exploit.
Ighalo has shown to be able to do the same and hold the ball up better.
Ighalo major flaw is his finishing which isn't consistent enough.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:09am On Aug 25, 2018
Mickael2:


Are you still on about this?

Very simple. A top coach agreed with a point I made long after I pointed it out. A top journalist agreed too.

Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 10:10am On Aug 25, 2018
TheGoodJoe:



I have said the reason why some of you rave of lone striker talk is because you guys are used to conservative approach of long balls to strikers. If we talk with respect of controlled, cohesive, attacking play, we will need a player with movement and quickness. As pointed out, Nacho has thrived as a lone striker. It is just a myth. The top marksmen in the game today rely more on movement than power.

That is why you are talking of an outdated bullying of defenders.
My question to you is this - is Ighalo slow?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:12am On Aug 25, 2018
edi287:

Ighalo has shown to be able to do the same and hold the ball up better.
Ighalo major flaw is his finishing which isn't consistent enough.

So what is the debate about. We need a striker who offers us mobility, quickness, lethal finishing and the ability to drop deep and create for others.

Baffles me why power and holdup play becomes a top criteria over multitude of attributes others bring.

Baffling.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:13am On Aug 25, 2018
edi287:

My question to you is this - is Ighalo slow?

My answer is that Nacho offers more mobility, quickness and lethality in front of goal.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 10:14am On Aug 25, 2018
edi287:

You said "explosive". I have already said Nacho is a good finisher and has a better final pass.
But Nacho doesn't bully defenders the way peak Ighalo did.
You just fell for the Goodjoe's trap!! lloll. Yes Nacho is just as average as Ighalo. Simple. None of them is spectacular.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 10:17am On Aug 25, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


So what is the debate about. We need a striker who offers us mobility, quickness, lethal finishing and the ability to drop deep and create for others.

Baffles me why power and holdup play becomes a top criteria over multitude of attributes others bring.

Baffling.
Nacho only trumps Ighalo at finishing. Because he can slip a final pass doesn't mean his link up play is superb.
Ighalo at his best is mobile and quick and of course can drop deep. Let's not forget that Ighalo too like Nacho thrives in a 2 striker formation, only difference is he can play the lone striker role better.
Oh and when I talk of holdup play, your mind seems to jump to the likes of Giroud, etc.
Suarez and Aguero both improved their hold up play after few seasons at epl. They can hold up play, beat a defender when necessary...something Nacho can't do at a consistent basis.
75 percent of Nacho's best games have been as a SS.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 10:18am On Aug 25, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


My answer is that Nacho offers more mobility, quickness and lethality in front of goal.

Finito.
Iheanacho does not offer more mobility. Go watch our games vs Cameroon and see why Ighalo is a better lone striker.
Podolski is a better finisher than Giroud but Giroud is a better lone striker than Podolski.
Get it?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 10:19am On Aug 25, 2018
fabyom:
You just fell for the Goodjoe's trap!! lloll. Yes Nacho is just as average as Ighalo. Simple. None of them is spectacular.
Bros we know. But as a lone striker, Ighalo any day of the week.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:21am On Aug 25, 2018
The Grandmaster Guardiola at work.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGjSiGDQqqo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:22am On Aug 25, 2018
edi287:

Iheanacho does not offer more mobility. Go watch our games vs Cameroon and see why Ighalo is a better lone striker.
Podolski is a better finisher than Giroud but Giroud is a better lone striker than Podolski.
Get it?

It seems you do not even understand what mobility is. Nacho offers way more mobility to our offensive setup. Ighalo's style slows the team down offensively, especially off the ball. Not even a debate.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:24am On Aug 25, 2018
edi287:

Nacho only trumps Ighalo at finishing. Because he can slip a final pass doesn't mean his link up play is superb.
Ighalo at his best is mobile and quick and of course can drop deep. Let's not forget that Ighalo too like Nacho thrives in a 2 striker formation, only difference is he can play the lone striker role better.
Oh and when I talk of holdup play, your mind seems to jump to the likes of Giroud, etc.
Suarez and Aguero both improved their hold up play after few seasons at epl. They can hold up play, beat a defender when necessary...something Nacho can't do at a consistent basis.
75 percent of Nacho's best games have been as a SS.


You are something oh.

You are arguing with someone who is busy bringing up a match against Aston villa. I mean that us faulty in all aspects. First of all this is Aston Villa, who even knows the names of those defenders there? I remember Ighalo having monster games against even Chelsea and Liverpool(he scored against Man U too) but then his go to game is against Aston Villa. sha let's say that's what he has. the second problem there is in what year did he actually play that match? Three years ago? I mean if we go by that wasn't it Ighalo that just scored a hattrick in the Chinese league? What's Iheanacho's most recent performance(s) in recent competitive games? This una argument no make sense just drop it

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 10:25am On Aug 25, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


It seems you do not even understand what mobility is. Nacho offers way more mobility to our offensive setup. Ighalo's style slows the team down offensively, especially off the ball. Not even a debate.
Nah rather you don't understand what mobility is. Ighalo is more mobile than Nacho. Ighalo has good movement and can actually dribble pass defenders when he wants to.
We're not talking about raw speed here.

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