Good evening gurus! Pls what's your advice for someone who already has an Express entry profile applying for study permit...

Austacus:


No no no that's not true, so how do they detect when a lump of money leaves the account after submitting an application?
Visa officers work directly with the head bank not branch. (Germany does the same cause it happens to one of my bro in Deutschland, they had to call him to explain why it happened) I am 99.9% sure

Oga, I am giving my info as head office staff from where accounts are getting confirmed. I wouldn't know the scenario of your brother and so I might not be able to comment on that.

jandj:


Oga, I am giving my info as head office staff from where accounts are getting confirmed. I wouldn't know the scenario of your brother and so I might not be able to comment on that.

The embassy uses psychology to do the lump sum issue. They know that from experience people who put a lump sum in the account do so for visa purpose.
So I agree with you.
BUT WE NEED NOT LABOUR OURSELVES ON THIS ISSUE. I BELIEVE NOBODY HERE IS USING OR PLANNING TO FORGE A STATEMENT. SO WORRY NOT.

Senatorkolade:


The embassy uses psychology to do the lump sum issue. They know that from experience people who put a lump sum in the account do so for visa purpose.
So I agree with you.
BUT WE NEED NOT LABOUR OURSELVES ON THIS ISSUE. I BELIEVE NOBODY HERE IS USING OR PLANNING TO FORGE A STATEMENT. SO WORRY NOT.

Yes bro, these VOs are well trained and experienced. One will expect a lump sum entering days before application to go out after the statement was printed.

Senatorkolade:
I was told by a lawyer that July has the highest number of applications from Nigeria and those who re-applied account for about 85% of those applications. This is because those who were refused in April, May and June converge their applications in July. He said July applicants should not expect decisions until November. He also told me that many of August, September and October are now being moved to Kenya and Lagos unless you are re-applying and your refused applications was treated in Kenya, then another visa office in case you want to go for a judicial review.
I don't know how true it is.

...November!..well...all I pray is for an approval...no Kenyan hands on my application...

jandj:


Oga, I am giving my info as head office staff from where accounts are getting confirmed. I wouldn't know the scenario of your brother and so I might not be able to comment on that.

As I said, I am 99.9% sure and nothing can change it. I can vividly remember my account officer told me about all these.
They pick random transactions in the statement of account to verify the authenticity including the balance.
And mind you, VO’s ain't in charge of this task, there are various departments in cic that does this. The bank verification is not just a day, they do it for more than 3 days randomly (not straight days). Those people get time oooo!
If you get to work on Monday, ask your colleagues.

No argument brother
#Peace

Senatorkolade:


The embassy uses psychology to do the lump sum issue. They know that from experience people who put a lump sum in the account do so for visa purpose.
So I agree with you.
BUT WE NEED NOT LABOUR OURSELVES ON THIS ISSUE. I BELIEVE NOBODY HERE IS USING OR PLANNING TO FORGE A STATEMENT. SO WORRY NOT.

Am saying when lump money leaves the account during visa processing not when the money is already in the account.

This issue is very important so that some people will be aware of it.

That's is why it's not advisable to submit a dormant account statement. The account must be running in and out

Austacus:


As I said, I am 99.9% sure and nothing can change it. I can vividly remember my account officer told me about all these.
They pick random transactions in the statement of account to verify the authenticity including the balance.
And mind you, VO’s ain't in charge of this task, there are various departments in cic that does this. The back verification is not just a day, they do it for more than 3 days randomly (not straight days). Those people get time oooo!
If you get to work on Monday, ask your colleagues.

No argument brother
#Peace

Lol. OK! No argument.The current balance Cannot be verified by any organization or person without a court order. This is Practice of Banking! Authenticity of the statement can be verified because it was presented to them by you. I am sure CIC won't also want to go against normal policies. Well, in the bank where I work oooooo, embassies don't get balances, they only tell us to verify the authenticity of the statement submitted. I have seen a lot of this.

Thank You

Let me describe a scenario to you....

A friend applied with 16M bank balance(Real money, not lump sum).... Got Reject

Reapplied 40days later but at the bank he tried to print statement, he needed to transfer fund to someone, so he was told to just go ahead and use it like that, He had just 300k as account balance ......... He got the Visa in 12 days.

Let me explain again, The reason for the denial in the first stage was Insufficient FUNd!!!. it took 60 days and was rejected.

I have a conclusion, If you have 1 naira and you feel comfortable with submitting ur application, Please go ahead.

You just need to baffle them, amd you get your Visa, alot of people are Just trying to Impress this V.O with their application.


There was a testimony i read somewhere, i cant remember the episode,....

Dad's bank balance...200M
Mom......................30M
Domiciliary account of Daddy.....$20k
Brother.........................14M
Her own savings..........13M

Visa..................Rejected.

If you listen to people that are Rejected for Visa application sometimes, You will even lose hope.
Be yourself, apply as you are.

Austacus:


As I said, I am 99.9% sure and nothing can change it. I can vividly remember my account officer told me about all these.
They pick random transactions in the statement of account to verify the authenticity including the balance.
And mind you, VO’s ain't in charge of this task, there are various departments in cic that does this. The bank verification is not just a day, they do it for more than 3 days randomly (not straight days). Those people get time oooo!
If you get to work on Monday, ask your colleagues.

No argument brother
#Peace

vibrant99:
Let me describe a scenario to you....

A friend applied with 16M bank balance(Real money, not lump sum).... Got Reject

Reapplied 40days later but at the bank he tried to print statement, he needed to transfer fund to someone, so he was told to just go ahead and use it like that, He had just 300k as account balance ......... He got the Visa in 12 days.

Let me explain again, The reason for the denial in the first stage was Insufficient FUNd!!!. it took 60 days and was rejected.

I have a conclusion, If you have 1 naira and you feel comfortable with submitting ur application, Please go ahead.

You just need to baffle them, amd you get your Visa, alot of people are Just trying to Impress this V.O with their application.


There was a testimony i read somewhere, i cant remember the episode,....

Dad's bank balance...200M
Mom......................30M
Domiciliary account of Daddy.....$20k
Brother.........................14M
Her own savings..........13M

Visa..................Rejected.

If you listen to people that are Rejected for Visa application sometimes, You will even lose hope.
Be yourself, apply as you are.

We ain't talking about making sure to submit big money.
You can submit any amount you have in your account even if Nah 1000k if God wants it to scale through, it will definitely scale through.
I think someone have shared a testimony of 700k that got approval in this group before.

Sometimes VOs don't need bulky documents base on what I've been seeing in this group

I think you are right because someone that works in one of the banks head quarters once told me that CIC use to confirm from them the authenticity of statements submitted for visa applications by confirming certain transactions in the statements. Also, there was a time around last year when CIC used to request for updated statements from applicants during the process of treating the applicants applications and also requested for letters from the banks stating the fund inside the applicants' accounts would be allowed to be exported to Canada as at when needed (I think due to some CBN regulations then). I am not sure if it was in part 11 or 12 of this thread.

All I am trying to say is there wouldn't have been reasons asking for updated statements if CIC could actually check balances on accounts. Please, this is just my own opinion on this matter. People should just do their best to be truthful and straight forward in their applications. God will help us and His will shall be done concerning all applications. Cheers!

jandj:


Madam, I repeat dat CIC does not have any right to check your balance. They can only confirm the authenticity of the statement presented. I am certain sure of this. The bank owes every customer a other of secrecy. I presume that What your reliable source said is that CIC confirms the authenticity of statements

deboskie:
I think you are right because someone that works in one of the banks head quarters once told me that CIC use to confirm from them the authenticity of statements submitted for visa applications by confirming certain transactions in the statements. Also, there was a time around last year when CIC used to request for updated statements from applicants during the process of treating the applicants applications and also requested for letters from the banks stating the fund inside the applicants' accounts would be allowed to be exported to Canada as at when needed (I think due to some CBN regulations then). I am not sure if it was in part 11 or 12 of this thread.

All I am trying to say is there wouldn't have been reasons asking for updated statements if CIC could actually check balances on accounts. Please, this is just my own opinion on this matter. People should just do their best to be truthful and straight forward in their applications. God will help us and His will shall be done concerning all applications. Cheers!

Cool

No one has the right to divulge account balance of a customer to CIC, CIC can only ask abt opening & closing balance or certain dates transaction not account balance . This is the reason they ask for updated SOA sometimes or letter from the bank. In all we shd be truthful cos what works for Mr A might not work for Mr B
quote author=canadabyfire post=72051992]Bros....i am mot sure you work at the head office of the bank you work with.....CIC does a random check on banks.....basically headoffice not branch.....i repeat.....random check.......This statement of fact is coming from a very reliable source.



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I cover my app with the blood of Jesus, if He says YES no VO can say No

Senatorkolade:
I was told by a lawyer that July has the highest number of applications from Nigeria and those who re-applied account for about 85% of those applications. This is because those who were refused in April, May and June converge their applications in July. He said July applicants should not expect decisions until November. He also told me that many of August, September and October are now being moved to Kenya and Lagos unless you are re-applying and your refused applications was treated in Kenya, then another visa office in case you want to go for a judicial review.
I don't know how true it is.

700k too much sef, I have seen on this thread, Part 12 or 13, cant remember now. The person had 1k as balance and got his Visa. So funny but true. Sometimes I believe this VOs just want applicants to be sincere and true.

Austacus:


We ain't talking about making sure to submit big money.
You can submit any amount you have in your account even if Nah 1000k if God wants it to scale through, it will definitely scale through.
I think someone have shared a testimony of 700k that got approval in this group before.

Sometimes VOs don't need bulky documents base on what I've been seeing in this group

makano:
700k too much sef, I have seen on this thread, Part 12 or 13, cant remember now. The person had 1k as balance and got his Visa. So funny but true. Sometimes I believe this VOs just want applicants to be sincere and true.

$1k or 1k NGN?
If nah 1k naira that person nah Jesus best friend
The person must be on full scholarship though

makano:
700k too much sef, I have seen on this thread, Part 12 or 13, cant remember now. The person had 1k as balance and got his Visa. So funny but true. Sometimes I believe this VOs just want applicants to be sincere and true.

Someone that got a tuition waiver + GA/RA position has no headache proving too much about finance, while on the other hand a potential self sponsoring student will be completely stupid and maybe psychologically unstable to apply with a N1,000 account balance (with no other proof of fund). The question that brought about this unnecessary debate came from a prospective student was hoping to self sponsor himself.

No two visa applicant have identical profiles. Let's please stop comparing applicants.

123abcclown:


Someone that got a tuition waiver + GA/RA position has no headache proving too much about finance, while on the other hand a potential self sponsoring student will be completely stupid and maybe psychologically unstable to apply with a N1,000 account balance (with no other proof of fund). The question that brought about this unnecessary debate came from a prospective student was hoping to self sponsor himself.

No two visa applicant have identical profiles. Let's please stop comparing applicants.

Is it possible for CIC to refuse someone with full tuition waiver plus TA/RA/GA?
Have you come across such in the thread before?
Just asking

And who told you I was comparing applicants? I resemble VO? the point I was trying to make was that sometimes this VOs want applicants to be truthful with their applications, u dont necessarily need to show 30billlion naira account balance, cos we all know peeps with fat account balance have been refused several times here. For the guy with 1k to have gotten Visa doesnt mean someone else that applies with a balance of 1k will also get visa. People are different. The guy with 1k was just divinely favoured and its shows the said person is destined to go to Canada despite his 1k balance. The bitter truth is that not everybody here is destined to go to Canada even if they put down 100billion Account balance. So Oga I wasnt comparing anybody, if u had carefully read ma post, u would not have seen anything comparison there. Peace

123abcclown:


Someone that got a tuition waiver + GA/RA position has no headache proving too much about finance, while on the other hand a potential self sponsoring student will be completely stupid and maybe psychologically unstable to apply with a N1,000 account balance (with no other proof of fund). The question that brought about this unnecessary debate came from a prospective student was hoping to self sponsor himself.

No two visa applicant have identical profiles. Let's please stop comparing applicants.

makano:
And who told you I was comparing applicants? I resemble VO? the point I was trying to make was that sometimes this VOs want applicants to be truthful with their applications, u dont necessarily need to show 30billlion naira account balance, cos we all know peeps with fat account balance have been refused several times here. For the guy with 1k to have gotten Visa doesnt mean someone else that applies with a balance of 1k will also get visa. People are different. The guy with 1k was just divinely favoured and its shows the said person is destined to go to Canada despite the 1k balance. [/b]The bitter truth is that not everybody here is destined to go to Canada even if they put down 100billion Account balance.[b] So Oga I wasnt comparing anybody, if u had carefully read ma post, u would not have seen anything comparison there. Peace

Canadabyfire

jandj:


Did u send a mail before they updated the medical?

Yes I sent a mail
I guess that’s why they just uploaded and exed again

Austacus:


Is it possible for CIC to refuse someone with full tuition waiver plus TA/RA/GA?
Have you come across such in the thread before?
Just asking

Yes
For purpose of visit, personal assets and financial status, home ties

makano:
700k too much sef, I have seen on this thread, Part 12 or 13, cant remember now. The person had 1k as balance and got his Visa. So funny but true. Sometimes I believe this VOs just want applicants to be sincere and true.

Don't try this with Kenya people o

Senatorkolade:


Yes
For purpose of visit, personal assets and financial status, home ties

Oh No
Extremely painful

The Nairobi Demons.. Even if a Nigerian Applicant is related to Bill gate, they will still Refuse the person. Nothing good comes from them as far u are a Nigerian. I just pray my application does not get to them, this one I am hearing they have started attending to online applications. Peace

Senatorkolade:


Don't try this with Kenya people o

Senatorkolade:


Don't try this with Kenya people o

You and Maasai people

(though Nah white people be VOs for Kenya not sure sha)

Austacus:


Is it possible for CIC to refuse someone with full tuition waiver plus TA/RA/GA?
Have you come across such in the thread before?
Just asking

Yes, I have seem people with full funding refused visa.

What is your point?

123abcclown:


Yes, I have seem people with full funding refused visa.

What is your point?

As I said ”just asking”
On a normal normal it supposed be swift visa approval
Straight up

fadasss:
I just received my gcms note now...i still don't understand..please can any1 shed more light

Pls share your gcms with us, let's know how to help u

042viber12:


Is he saying this June, July and August applicants passed the background and security checks......need to be enlightened on this

Pretty much!

Austacus:


As I said ”just asking”
On a normal normal it supposed be swift visa approval
Straight up

This is true.

Canada Visa application is quite frustrating and after numerous attempts to try and understand how they work/operate, they come up with another new trick that leaves us all with even more questions.

I wasn't trying to get on anyone's nerve. I'm too hungry to get on my own nerve.

Let me get to my point. A lot of us have been on this thread since Part 13 (some maybe way before that) while a number are new here. For some of us that might know a thing or two, and have seen numerous visa approvals and denials, we should thread with caution in putting things in black and white here. The reason is not only to rightfully advice people asking the questions but to also try and not mislead the people that will be reading the thread in the nearest future.

Makano also made a lot of sense....no matter of fund, home tie, employment letter, land documents can save you if a VO think you are not worthy.

jnyuwa02:


Pretty much!

Okay but why is it still saying visa under processing