Banmeallday:


Maybe the Jews you know are like that, but who colonized you? WHo has been doing deals and business with the likes of Gowon and Abacha?

On the contrary, what are the top three countries West Africans including Cameroon are running to to give birth or for medicals?

You cant be an island in this world, and frankly, Israel value system is closer to Biafrans than that of Arewa or Oduduwa...

Israel is a small country of just over 8 million people. World Jewish population is estimated at 12 million to 15 million. Igbos are around 40 million. Why not let Jews claim to be Igbo? Why Igbos claiming Jews?

And no, Israel's value system is not closer to us than Yorubas.

hammerFC:
Is like our Igbo brother prefer islamisation from fulani to Judaism.

Did anybdoy force u to Judaism? No!

Islam is being positioned to take hold of Igbo land, in fact the middle belt are the ones holding islam off.

That is y Buhari want to finish them so he can get to Igbo.

If u guys prefer islam which i suspect some of u do, since u now answer muslim names in the north and claim muslim, then continue childish talk and one Nigeria and Presidency bullshit.

Anybody can choose to follow the Jewish religion or worship Ifa or become a Hindu or whatever they like. Just stop claiming to be of Jewish ancestry. That is a different matter. That is a fraudulent claim with no basis in reality.

Obi1kenobi:


Israel is a small country of just over 8 million people. World Jewish population is estimated at 12 million to 15 million. Igbos are around 40 million. Why not let Jews claim to be Igbo? Why Igbos claiming Jews?

And no, Israel's value system is not closer to us than Yorubas.

Igbo are Ancient Hebrew people.

The Igbo claiming Jews are those that have decided to practice Hebrew culture as a religion.

Ancient Hebrew predates Judaism

They are simply getting updated to Jews and identifying with the promise land.(Ancient City of David)

This one that we are talking here is long story.

The State of Israel, know Igbo are ancient Hebrew and have since moved on to state creation of Biafra.

Nigeria is presently on borrowed time.

Israel want her brother State.

Abi u think they like to be alone ni?

Israel have been going to Igbo land like mad of present, from business seminar to blood testing and various other things.

They are so close to whisk Kanu off at the drop of a hat.

They are not even hiding it.

Obi1kenobi:


We attach ourselves to Super Eagles cos they are Nigeria's representatives. Football support has nothing to do with winning or losing.
People support European clubs for entertainment because they like football and every football lover must naturally be attracted to particular teams.
People attach themselves to colonial religions because.......well, they've been taught from birth they'll go to hell if they don't believe in the Christian God or Allah.

All of this is different from claiming a heritage that is not your own. To be a Jew is not just about religion (even though there are Jewish converts). It is an ancient identity inseparable from that of the Jewish people. Their history (slavery in Egypt, several conquests by their Persian and Arab neighbors, suppression and exile by the Romans, battles for Jerusalem by the Crusaders, the Ottomans, the extermination of 6 million Jews in the Holocaust etc) is not our history. Their accomplishments are not our accomplishments. Their nation is not our nation (Israel is not known for their racial tolerance). I feel embarrassed that people will sit down here in Nigeria to appropriate the history and heritage of an alien civilization.

Fighting for Biafra should not have anything to do with inventing myths. That is an identity built on a lie.

Lets see the definition of heritage from Vocabulary.com

“Heritage is often used to discuss a cultural aspect or tradition that has been passed down through generations. For example, one might speak of an area's "rich musical heritage.” Heritage can also refer to a person's ethnic or cultural background.”

So following Super Eagles because it is your representation (even with Oyibo coach) is actually false. It is your cultural thing to do for most of your citizens. When they play the whole place is watching and even chopping suya. When they win national holiday is declared by governemnts at the center or locally, when they lose riots can break out probes begin to flourish, so dont tell me it’s not about winning or losing.

Since people have been taught from birth about colonial religions like Jewish children are taught to be innovative, then that would also meet the definition of heritage, which could originate in lies. This brings me back again to what if Jews came from Igbo?

Jews in America did not go through what Jews went through in Germany...Does that make them less Jew? Biafrans already in Yankee in 1968 did not go through say Biafrans at Owerri went through at the same time...does that make them less Biafran or Igbo or Efik? Fulani that have been practicing Islam for 300-500 years are given standing ovation in Mecca (i.e. Buhari) because of various claims to and of being part and parcel of Arabia, despite Arabs and their cousins practicing for thousands of years...

Even if all Igbo did not or do not have ties with Hebrews does not mean that some people or towns don’t or didn’t....

Food for thought #2

Obi1kenobi:


Anybody can choose to follow the Jewish religion or worship Ifa or become a Hindu or whatever they like. Just stop claiming to be of Jewish ancestry. That is a different matter. That is a fraudulent claim with no basis in reality.

Can u persuade the state of Israel as to your claim with regards to the Igbo(Hebrew)?


U dey here they speak grammar, Israel have already embraced and claimed them as their own.

hammerFC:



Igbo are Ancient Hebrew people.

The Igbo claiming Jews are those that have decided to practice Hebrew culture as a religion.

Ancient Hebrew predates Judaism

They are simply getting updated to Jews and identifying with the promise land.(Ancient City of David)

No they are not ancient Hebrew people. They're black ass niggas. Judaism is about 4,000 years old and there is zero evidence Igbos have seen the Sahara desert, talk more of the Mediterranean. There are zero artefacts, monuments, ancient literature, anything at all. Gullible people are "identifying with the promised land" because they feel no pride in their culture and heritage and aspire to be like Jews. That will never make Igbos Jewish.

hammerFC:


Can u persuade the state of Israel as to your claim with regards to the Igbo(Hebrew)?


U dey here they speak grammar, Israel have already embraced and claimed them as their own.

In your dreams. I can go on tour to Israel, wear a Kippa, and interact with any Jew and snap pictures. That will never make me a Jew. Israel does not give a damn about some West African niggas calling themselves Jews.

Obi1kenobi:


In your dreams. I can go on tour to Israel, wear a Kippa, and interact with any Jew and snap pictures. That will never make me a Jew. Israel does not give a damn about some West African niggas calling themselves Jews.

Go on their national television news.

Obi1kenobi:


No they are not ancient Hebrew people. They're black ass niggas. Judaism is about 4,000 years old and there is zero evidence Igbos have seen the Sahara desert, talk more of the Mediterranean. There are zero artefacts, monuments, ancient literature, anything at all. Gullible people are "identifying with the promised land" because they feel no pride in their culture and heritage and aspire to be like Jews. That will never make Igbos Jewish.

U dont need to see the desert to arrive at Egypt from the east. start with River Niger and then River benue and continue to the Nile Rive, u will arrive at Egypt- Israel.

Very early on Israel President recognised Biafra in a State Broadcast.

As i said, Nigeria is just buying time.

Banmeallday:


Lets see the definition of heritage from Vocabulary.com

“Heritage is often used to discuss a cultural aspect or tradition that has been passed down through generations. For example, one might speak of an area's "rich musical heritage.” Heritage can also refer to a person's ethnic or cultural background.”

So following Super Eagles because it is your representation (even with Oyibo coach) is actually false. It is your cultural thing to do for most of your citizens. When they play the whole place is watching and even chopping suya. When they win national holiday is declared by governemnts at the center or locally, when they lose riots can break out probes begin to flourish, so dont tell me it’s not about winning or losing.

I can make any point out of this. We are Nigerians and Nigerian players represent us which is why we support the team. The Super Eagles are as representative of Nigeria as the flag, or coat of arms, or Nigerian army. Our supporting Nigeria has nothing to do with whether they are winning or losing. Even if Brazil thrashes us 10-0, we will still support Nigeria.

Since people have been taught from birth about colonial religions like Jewish children are taught to be innovative, then that would also meet the definition of heritage, which could originate in lies. This brings me back again to what if Jews came from Igbo?

Jews in America did not go through what Jews went through in Germany...Does that make them less Jew? Biafrans already in Yankee in 1968 did not go through say Biafrans at Owerri went through at the same time...does that make them less Biafran or Igbo or Efik? Fulani that have been practicing Islam for 300-500 years are given standing ovation in Mecca (i.e. Buhari) because of various claims to and of being part and parcel of Arabia, despite Arabs and their cousins practicing for thousands of years...

Even if all Igbo did not or do not have ties with Hebrews does not mean that some people or towns don’t or didn’t....

Food for thought #2

Sorry, but the analogy does not work. Jews didn't have to die in the Holocaust to feel the pain of it. During and after the Holocaust, the European Jewish population plummeted as many Jews fled, and the American Jewish population exploded. But the Holocaust is still their history because it happened to their people. They were born Jews. They were educated as Jews. They were named as Jews. They practised the Jewish faith. They were part of the Jewish community. There hardly exists an Ashkenazi Jewish family who were not affected by the Holocaust.
Igbos share no such history. Had missionaries not brought the Christian faith to us, we would not even know Jews exist and won't be babbling about being Jews.

Even if Jews descended from us, that doesn't make us Jewish either. Tens of thousands of years of separation cannot make you belong to a culture. Africa is the cradle of human civilization, so every race has African roots. That will never make a Ugandan a German, or make a Zulu a Japanese, or make an Efik a Chinese.

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Obi1kenobi:


I can make any point out of this. We are Nigerians and Nigerian players represent us which is why we support the team. The Super Eagles are as representative of Nigeria as the flag, or coat of arms, or Nigerian army. Our supporting Nigeria has nothing to do with whether they are winning or losing. Even if Brazil thrashes us 10-0, we will still support Nigeria.



Sorry, but the analogy does not work. Jews didn't have to die in the Holocaust to feel the pain of it. During and after the Holocaust, the European Jewish population plummeted as many Jews fled, and the American Jewish population exploded. But the Holocaust is still their history because it happened to their people. They were born Jews. They were educated as Jews. They were named as Jews. They practised the Jewish faith. They were part of the Jewish community. There hardly exists an Ashkenazi Jewish family who were not affected by the Holocaust.
Igbos share no such history. Had missionaries not brought the Christian faith to us, we would not even know Jews exist and won't be babbling about being Jews.

Even if Jews descended from us, that doesn't make us Jewish either. Tens of thousands of years of separation cannot make you belong to a culture. Africa is the cradle of human civilization, so every race has African roots. That will never make a Ugandan a German, or make a Zulu a Japanese, or make an Efik a Chinese.

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IGBO SUFFERED BIAFRA WAR AND SLAVERY.


THE JEWS TODAY CAN IDENTIFY WITH IGBO PLIGHT.


THEY ALSO CAN IEDNTIFY WITH IGBOS AS ANCIENT HEBREW.

hammerFC:


U dont need to see the desert to arrive at Egypt from the east. start with River Niger and then River benue and continue to the Nile Rive, u will arrive at Egypt- Israel.

Really? With which ships? Who charted the course? When did your ancestors tell you they made such a journey? Why do they have no Jewish artefacts? Why do they have no Jewish monuments? Why didn't they speak any Semitic language? Why are they genetically the same as Ibibios or Efiks, rather than looking like Semitic people? Why were they illiterate when Jews learnt to read and write thousands of years ago? Where are their Jewish temples? Why was their religion a polytheistic, pagan one instead of the Jewish religion?

hammerFC:
Very early on Israel President recognised Biafra in a State Broadcast.

As i said, Nigeria is just buying time.

I remember when you peddled the junk with another account of yours. It was a fraud then. It is a fraud now. Netanyahu has never, does not, and will never give a rats ass about the existence of Igbos.

Obi1kenobi:


Really? With which ships? Who charted the course? When did your ancestors tell you they made such a journey? Why do they have no Jewish artefacts? Why do they have no Jewish monuments? Why didn't they speak any Semitic language? Why are they genetically the same as Ibibios or Efiks, rather than looking like Semitic people? Why were they illiterate when Jews learnt to read and write thousands of years ago? Where are their Jewish temples? Why was their religion a polytheistic, pagan one instead of the Jewish religion?

Simply walk along the River bank, u will arrive in Egypt.

River Niger to River Benue and then the Nile River.

hammerFC:
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IGBO SUFFERED BIAFRA WAR AND SLAVERY.


THE JEWS TODAY CAN IDENTIFY WITH IGBO PLIGHT.


THEY ALSO CAN IEDNTIFY WITH IGBOS AS ANCIENT HEBREW.

No they can't cos they are not Igbo and will never be Igbo. Cure yourself of this inferiority complex. Be proud of your heritage and stop claiming one that has nothing to do with you. Your ancestors were never Jews. You are not a Jew. Your children will not be Jews.

Obi1kenobi:


No they can't cos they are not Igbo and will never be Igbo. Cure yourself of this inferiority complex. Be proud of your heritage and stop claiming one that has nothing to do with you. Your ancestors were never Jews. You are not a Jew. Your children will not be Jews.

So explain wat they are doing with Kanu?

The dynamics of this world is deeper than just the surface.


Israel went to Ethipia to recover Ethiopian jews.


U have no idea the length they will go for their Hebrew people that keep the jewish faith.

Igbos do, they British came and met the establishment of Eze Eri which was religious.

hammerFC:
The dynamics of this world is deeper than just the surface.


Israel went to Ethipia to recover Ethiopian jews.


U have no idea the length they will go for their Hebrew people that keep the jewish faith.

Igbos do, they British came and met the establishment of Eze Eri which was religious.

Ethiopian Jews are actually Jews with thousands of years of proven Semitic links. The Igbo claim is a myth, plain and simple. The very fact you think Israel are just waiting there to rescue you shows you believe them to be your gods basically. You diminish your own tribe and heritage because you consider Jews some master race.

Eze Eri has nothing to do with Jews. Any royal in Igbo land claiming to be a Jew is a disgrace to himself, his people, and his ancestors.

hammerFC:


So explain wat they are doing with Kanu?

He ran to their country, which any British citizen can do.

Obi1kenobi:


Ethiopian Jews are actually Jews with thousands of years of proven Semitic links. The Igbo claim is a myth, plain and simple. The very fact you think Israel are just waiting there to rescue you shows you believe them to be your gods basically. You diminish your own tribe and heritage because you consider Jews some master race.

Eze Eri has nothing to do with Jews. Any royal in Igbo land claiming to be a Jew is a disgrace to himself, his people, and his ancestors.

Forget all that tribal talk.

I am not a tribal biggot like u.

I actually believe that us Igbo are ancient Hebrew people.

Many Igbo have since updated to Judaism.

I simply love Israel.

We can go around in circle til the Sun rise but those of us that know, know.

I think the entire Israel, Know.

hammerFC:


Forget all that tribal talk.

I am not a tribal biggot like u.

I actually believe that us Igbo are ancient Hebrew people.

Many Igbo have since updated to Judaism.

I simply love Israel.

You believe it cos you're deluded. You believe it cos you hate your tribe and believe Jews are superior to you.

You're more than free to love Israel. I love Japanese people. That doesn't mean I can start claiming to be descended from Japanese.

hammerFC:
We can go around in circle til the Sun rise but those of us that know, know.

I think the entire Israel, Know.

Yes, we know that there is zero historical evidence. Zero genetic/physical evidence. Zero archaeological/anthropological evidence. Zero linguistic evidence. There is zero evidence that Igbos share any ancestry with Jews. You claim to be Jewish because you believe they're superior to you and you want to be like them. Simple.

And the "entire Israel" couldn't care less about Igbos.

Obi1kenobi:


I can make any point out of this. We are Nigerians and Nigerian players represent us which is why we support the team. The Super Eagles are as representative of Nigeria as the flag, or coat of arms, or Nigerian army. Our supporting Nigeria has nothing to do with whether they are winning or losing. Even if Brazil thrashes us 10-0, we will still support Nigeria.



Sorry, but the analogy does not work. Jews didn't have to die in the Holocaust to feel the pain of it. During and after the Holocaust, the European Jewish population plummeted as many Jews fled, and the American Jewish population exploded. But the Holocaust is still their history because it happened to their people. They were born Jews. They were educated as Jews. They were named as Jews. They practised the Jewish faith. They were part of the Jewish community. There hardly exists an Ashkenazi Jewish family who UIKeyInputDownArrowwere not affected by the Holocaust.
Igbos share no such history. Had missionaries not brought the Christian faith to us, we would not even know Jews exist and won't be babbling about being Jews.

Even if Jews descended from us, that doesn't make us Jewish either. Tens of thousands of years of separation cannot make you belong to a culture. Africa is the cradle of human civilization, so every race has African roots. That will never make a Ugandan a German, or make a Zulu a Japanese, or make an Efik a Chinese.

First and foremost you are not Nigerians, as such a name did not exist prior to 1960 as a nationality, and before a harlot in 1912 or therabout gave it to her big daddy (Luggard), the world did not know anything called Nigeria, even your forefathers. You are correct by saying you would support a Nigeria that lost 10-0 to Brazil because that is very much the culture and heritage of typical Niggers (to dissect the name Nigger plus Area). They by culture support filth and call it glamour, they say what is wrong is right and what is right as wrong, they will be proud to have a quack Oyibo leading them to the World Cup and pay him millions and owe their local coach that qualified them. They will be proud to answer a slave name and then spend millions of Naira to do naming ceremony where they will give their children heavy heavy indigenous names and think they are not causing confusion.

They the heritage proud Niggers will see and hear a man who is articulating (not Atikulating) for the good of the Black community, but because they are lazy youths who dont really care about nation building and would rather chase weave wearing babes and watch EPL, they say, “Oh he is calling us Jews when we dont have blah blah”.

And since tens of thousands of years dont make you affiliated with anyone, then yes, you are Nigerian, and if your ancestors were to come back and look upon you, they would curse you and even curse god that he allowed a hopeless generation to emerge under the African sun....

Food for thought #3

Banmeallday:


First and foremost you are not Nigerians, as such a name did not exist prior to 1960 as a nationality, and before a harlot in 1912 or therabout gave it to her big daddy (Luggard), the world did not know anything called Nigeria, even your forefathers. You are correct by saying you would support a Nigeria that lost 10-0 to Brazil because that is very much the culture and heritage of typical Niggers (to dissect the name Nigger plus Area). They by culture support filth and call it glamour, they say what is wrong is right and what is right as wrong, they will be proud to have a quack Oyibo leading them to the World Cup and pay him millions and owe their local coach that qualified them. They will be proud to answer a slave name and then spend millions of Naira to do naming ceremony where they will give their children heavy heavy indigenous names and think they are not causing confusion.

They the heritage proud Niggers will see and hear a man who is articulating (not Atikulating) for the good of the Black community, but because they are lazy youths who dont really care about nation building and would rather chase weave wearing babes and watch EPL, they say, “Oh he is calling us Jews when we dont have blah blah”.

And since tens of thousands of years dont make you affiliated with anyone, then yes, you are Nigerian, and if your ancestors were to come back and look upon you, they would curse you and even curse god that he allowed a hopeless generation to emerge under the African sun....

Food for thought #3

Neither did "Igbos" as a collective identity exist before the colonialists either. Tens of millions of Igbos across today's SE, SS and lower reaches of the Middle Belt adopted a unified Igbo consciousness that never existed because of those colonialists. But I guess you will also say you're not Igbo, abi? You're raising a lot of non-sequiturs and poor analogies with what is under dispute and ranting rather incoherently. Once again:
1) we support the Nigerian national team because they represent us. They come from our communities. We celebrate their success on the international stage and mourn their failures. As it is so in every country in the world who support their people. If we don't support them, who would we support? Germany?
2) I don't know what any of these have to do with the simple fact that there is zero evidence Igbos are Jews and we should be proud and secure enough in our own identity rather than claiming an alien culture.

Obi1kenobi:


Israel is a small country of just over 8 million people. World Jewish population is estimated at 12 million to 15 million. Igbos are around 40 million. Why not let Jews claim to be Igbo? Why Igbos claiming Jews?

And no, Israel's value system is not closer to us than Yorubas.

I may not like Nnamdi Kanu, but Igbos have Jewish ancestry. That is a FACT!

There is NO WAY to explain the similarity in culture and language. The problem is that claiming your Jewish ancestry when you are threatened by Nigeria makes it appear as though it's just survival. But, it is a fact that Igbo traditions is very very similar to Hebrew tradition.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj23lYn95Dc

OreMI22:


I may not like Nnamdi Kanu, but Igbos have Jewish ancestry. That is a FACT!

There is NO WAY to explain the similarity in culture and language. The problem is that claiming your Jewish ancestry when you are threatened by Nigeria makes it appear as though it's just survival. But, it is a fact that Igbo traditions is very very similar to Hebrew tradition.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj23lYn95Dc

It is not a fact. At all. It cannot be substantiated in any way. There is no similarity in language. Anytime someone claims a Jewish word is the same as an Igbo word, use a Hebrew dictionary and you'll almost always find the claim is false. There is no similarity in culture. Out of thousands of elements that make up one's culture, you can't say because of your circumcision traditions that that is enough to make you similar in culture.

Obi1kenobi:


It is not a fact. At all. It cannot be substantiated in any way. There is no similarity in language. Anytime someone claims a Jewish word is the same as an Igbo word, use a Hebrew dictionary and you'll almost always find the claim is false. There is no similarity in culture. Out of thousands of elements that make up one's culture, you can't say because of your circumcision traditions that that is enough to make you similar in culture.

Keep eating yourself up.

Before Nnamdi Kanu ever was born, British authors and archaeologists have made this conclusion. Now that you are afraid of Israel's assistance to IPOB, you will even deny that Igbo are in Nigeria.

Igbos may not be practicing the Jewish religion en-mass, but they are definitely Hebrew. Many Igbos are going back to the Jewish faith. Even waaay before Nnamdi Kanu

https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/01/world/africa/nigeria-jews-igbo/index.html

OreMI22:


Keep eating yourself up.

Before Nnamdi Kanu ever was born, British authors and archaeologists have made this conclusion. Now that you are afraid of Israel's assistance to IPOB, you will even deny that Igbo are in Nigeria.

Igbos may not be practicing the Jewish religion en-mass, but they are definitely Hebrew. Many Igbos are going back to the Jewish faith. Even waaay before Nnamdi Kanu

https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/01/world/africa/nigeria-jews-igbo/index.html

Loool......no archaeologist have made such a conclusion. None. There are zero artefacts. Zero relics. Zero monuments. There is absolutely nothing to base it on. CNN simply regurgitated the same myths Igbos tell themselves. CNN is a liberal news outlet that seeks to connect the world. They never stated it as fact that Igbos are of Jewish heritage.

There is nothing to "go back" to as concerns the Jewish faith. Our ancestors never practised Judaism. And please, I have tackled these things several times and people still keep coming up with these circulating claims: every word you claim there to be similar between Igbo and Hebrew are fabrications. I've checked a Hebrew dictionary for many of those words and there was no correlation or similarity at all. Jews don't call lion Agu or first daughter Adah or anything like. Genesis is not even a Hebrew word any more than "Exodus" or "Numbers" are Hebrew words. It's an English word derived from Greek. I don't know where these things were manufactured from but they are frauds. Igbos that claim to be Jewish do so because they feel more pride in the Jewish heritage than an Igbo one. Which is a disgrace for our culture. I will never tire of debunking the myth. I'm sick and tired of it.