Ishilove:

Gladly

Ishilove:

I disagree with you. His delivery made the character more real to me

KoiceReloaded:


Paranormal Activity is the sh*t. It belongs to found-footage subgenre, which is actually my favorite subgenre of horror. The suspense and the sense of unease it generates is unreal. Very intense. The realism aspect is unmatched by any other.

Have you watched Rec, Quarantine, and Night Shyamalan's The Visit?

mekaprime:


But I have a question, this demonic possession & ghost movies etc, are the also part of the paranormal genre?

KoiceReloaded:


Meh, The Nun is average. Jump-scares don't scare me. Hereditary has far more quality. Apostle is pretty good too, although I'm not a fan of the shoddy ending.

Have you watched Halloween 2018?

KoiceReloaded:


I reckon your club name should be something along the lines of "The dynamic duo of horror sissies."

KoiceReloaded:


Supernatural subgenre.


There is no paranormal genre. I thought you were referring to Paranormal Activity, a horror film franchise that belongs to found-footage subgenre.

KoiceReloaded:


Jump-scare in horror is just lazy writing. Look at it this way; it's 99% guaranteed that you'd score a penalty without a goalie manning the post, no? All you gotta do is kick the ball straight down the middle with your foot, and voila, you've scored. That's jump-scare in a heartbeat. It's easy to scare people. You can scare the average audience by merely changing a scene all of a sudden (without warning), and replacing the scene with a ghost/demon/whatever. For instance, you allow the audience to let its guard down, and BOOM! An enormous pale thing suddenly walls into frame, filling the entire frame. It’s sudden, unexpected and terrifying. Jump-scare 101. Bonus points if the ghost/demon/whatever is nightmarish looking.

Psychological horror on the hand, builds up suspense, messes with your mind, and generally creeps you out. It's makes you paranoid in a way that proves that atmosphere can maintain a sense of tension and dread throughout, and doesn't need to have cheap jump-scares in order to be frightening. It let's you use your own thoughts. When it comes to atmospheric impact, the less you see/expect is always better.


Hereditary and The Babadook are two prime examples of a psychological horror. Both repeatedly build suspense until it becomes unbearable, and very rarely provides audiences the emotional relief of jump-scares. I'd take this two over the run-of-the-mill jump-scare horrors flooding the horror genre, any day.

toluxe0075:

It is an integral framework of horror movies . Stating that jump scares is irrelevant in horror movies is like saying having some level of brutality or extreme violence in fight scenes of action movies is irrelevant, we all know it's one of the things that makes fight scenes memorable.

Ishilove:
I am, but I still hate horror movies.

KoiceReloaded:


You and Ishi should open a club together. Both of your are a couple of soft touches.

ShaqFu:
no spoiler here. This is what most horror movie thrive on, bad and foolish decisions.

sugaDaddy:

Lol! I know what you mean but I think they took it too far in this particular movie. Especially the scene were the Priest kept following the possessed kid then eventually ended up being trapped in a conffin. Infuriating.

This is why you hardly see Black people in horror movies.

olu4life:



And like I told some, THE NUN is the only good horror I've seen this year, followed by Hereditary (though not a fan of this movie), then Apostle.

Beorn:


I call Father Burke, Sister Irene and Frenchy, the 3 idiots. Very foolish individuals.

Beorn:


I perfectly understand your angle, but the issue I can deduce from your post is that there were a lot of jump scares in The Nun used in furthering the plot instead of focusing on imaginative and creative storyline to induce the fear factor while making the movie educative and interesting. You need to understand that all horror movies can't be psychological masterpiece like the Sixth Sense.

Beorn:

Supernatural Horror movies like The Nun or The Conjuring franchise are supernatural horror movies and usually involves the use of ghosts, demons and nightmarish creatures to tell their tales. Some horror movies like the Saw franchise focuses more the use of gore and violence. We've the ones like Chainsaw Massacre that uses that as well.

Beorn:

There's no denying the fact that psychological horrors are the best among all horror subgenres, and my favorite subgenre of the horror because it's quite educative and stimulates the brain and uses less jump scares, but jump scare tactics are what made the horror genre famous and gave that genre its fear factor. If jump scares are used alongside a good storyline like in The Nun, then the excessive jump scares can be pardoned.

Beorn:

The Hereditary movie despite it being a psychological horror, had a boring building up of the suspense, taking over an hour to build the storyline left me feeling sleepy for most of the time. And it still employed one or two jump scare techniques.The Nun trumps it any day, any time.

Beorn:


I'm hardcore, I'm just fronting.

mekaprime:


yeah, that's it, Supernatural subgenre. I stay off anything thing that has to do with this particular subgenre. movies like, the ring, grudge, autopsy of Jane doe, Annabelle creation, gave me quite the scare.

KoiceReloaded:


LMAO. Beorn and Ishilove are looking for a 3rd partner. I think you ticked all the boxes.

KoiceReloaded:

The Sixth Sense is not even a good example of a proper psychological horror. The sequel Split did a far more better job. Also, Others was phenomenal in making a strong case against jump-scare tactics in the supernatural subgenre.

- It follows,
- The Others,
- The Witch,
- A Dark Song,
- The Void,
- The Autopsy of Jane Doe,
- The Orphanage

These are some of supernatural horrors that don't rely on jump-scares. In It Follows, an entity stalks the protagonist and his friends, but in a quiet creepy way. For instance, it builds up so much dread that when a door opens, you'd fully expect the entity to be one behind the door, only for it to be some ordinary bloke. The film is a tutorial on how to use creativity and psychological mindgames to keep us at the edge of our seats, instead of using some cheap scaring tactics.

Jump-scare cheapens supernatural horror, and makes it less interesting, boring, and forgettable.



Jump-scare is one of the most basic building blocks of horror. It's a vault, a panic room. It's safe. It's a tactic to fall back on when a filmmaker doesn't wanna take risk, probably because they don't have the intellectual capability to create something meaningful out of something less meaningful.

Wow! If a powerful and meaningful movie like Hereditary could bore you, little wonder you're so taken with it's polar opposite, The Nun. It all make sense now. You're a bonafide jump-scare lover.

Beorn:

Powerful ko, powerless ni!! Yimu.

Hereditary was a boring horror movie. Its message lost in the sleep-inducing time-wasting mechanism the director employed in the first one hour of the movie. A movie that took so much valuable time to build up its storyline, only for the ending to be very basic. Compare it with The Others whose build up matched the unexpected ending. It's worth the wait. Hereditary still employed jump scare towards the end to salvage what had been a total waste of time. If that movie was scripted well, it'd have achieved its aim within 1hr 30mins instead of the 2hrs borefest. Mtcheew.

sugaDaddy:

The Nun has to be one of the best horror movies i've ever watched. I haven't seen Hereditary and Apostle though. Are they any good?

olu4life:

Aswear you just spoke my mind on the movie. Its a very slowwwwww movie. Still wondering how it scared people. The only tragedy seen was when the girl's head cut off. Then perhaps when the dark entity was after the boy.
Koice abeg Hereditary no be am Was just an overhyped movie.

Beorn:
I'm still wondering what's so good about Hereditary. Is it not the same Hereditary we all watched? The way Koice was praising it, I had to re-check the movie on Wikipedia to make sure I didn't watch a fake one. Koice probably smoked Crack that made him think Hereditary was Split and other good horror movies.

My rating of Hereditary then was and still 4/10. Boring movie.

MJBOLT:

hereditary is better than the nun

Beorn:


While The Others was a supernatural subgenre, you can't really compare it with most supernatural subgenre which focuses more on the exorcism of violent demons and scary phenomenons. The Others focused more on the ghost world, its concept was amazing, way above most horror movies. It's not feasible to keep producing horrors like Split and Others constantly. A lot of brain-storming goes into it.

Beorn:

Among that list, I've seen It Follows and The Others, and they scared me WAAAAAY LESS than The Nun did. In short, The Others never scared me for once because the movie focused more on building the characters and the plot in the movie ahead of the impending mind-Bleep at the end of the movie. It Follows scared me like twice. And that reiterates my point that non-use of jump scare hardly scare audience, even me that's easily susceptible to fear in horror movies. Another horror movie that hardly scared me except during the jump scare scenes was IT. Without Jump scare, I'm not sure any horror can scare me except extremely gore ones like Saw. IT is interesting without the jump scares. Such horrors are my kind of horror movies. They focus less on the fear factor, but more on the message/story line. Jump scare might be basic, but there are some horrors where it's required alongside a good script. The Nun without those jump scares would've been an average movie. The jump scare was needed to add fear factor to it.

Beorn:

Powerful ko, powerless ni!! Yimu.

Hereditary was a boring horror movie. Its message lost in the sleep-inducing time-wasting mechanism the director employed in the first one hour of the movie. A movie that took so much valuable time to build up its storyline, only for the ending to be very basic. Compare it with The Others whose build up matched the unexpected ending. It's worth the wait. Hereditary still employed jump scare towards the end to salvage what had been a total waste of time. If that movie was scripted well, it'd have achieved its aim within 1hr 30mins instead of the 2hrs borefest. Mtcheew.

Chukason1:
Just rewatched the hereditary ... 8.8/10

KoiceReloaded:


Correct guy! That's what I'm talking about. Someone that actually understands and appreciate psychological horrors.

That movie can make you mentally unstable if you are not strong ...Still thinking on how to sleep tonight...