raumdeuter:


How many goals has liverpool conceded in games vvd played and how many goals has city conceded in games Laporte played
Give number of games played and goals conceded

Vvd and Laporte cannot be responsible for goals conceded when they are not in the field. So give us number of games each of them played and goals conceded in those games

BlackManta:


Since Van Dijk's arrival in January, Liverpool has conceded the least number of goals and kept the most clean sheets than anyone across all 5 European top leagues in 2018 #Facts

This is not a joke.

It is truth.

I won't argue with you, plz check out the statistics for yourself.

But according to some people VVD is overrated and has not improved Liverpools defence.

The statistics say otherwise.

VVD is arguably the best defender in PL.

I wonder where Liverpool would be without him.

You can cherry pick Van Dijk 's performance looking for something to use against him but you take away his stats and records away from him.

He is one the best.

sod09:
Chic2pimp it looking like football is going on relegation
Fvcking English players overhype piece of shiits

sod09:
spoke too soon man

chic2pimp:


Ntorrrrrrr..

chic2pimp:


Ntorrrrrrr..

BlackManta:


LaPorte - 17 goals conceded.

VVD - 28 goals conceded.

VVD played 9 more games than LaPorte.

And yes ,he faced tougher and bigger teams as well more times than LaPorte.

VVD is the best... Admit it.

While LaPorte was playing small teams like Swansea, Cardiff, Newcastle, Watford etc.. Teams that will barely attack you.

VVD played Madrid, Chelsea thrice, Man City thrice, Arsenal twice, Tottenham twice, Roma twice.. Etc.

LaPorte got nothing on VVD.

raumdeuter:


Facts matter what you posted up there are not backed by facts

VVD has played 38 games for Liverpool

In the CL last season
Conceded 1 vs City, 6 vs Roma, 3 vs Madrid =10
In the CL this season
Conceded 2 vs PSG, 1 vs Napoli and 2 vs Red Star = 5

In CL alone VVD conceded 15 goals

In the FA cup conceded 1 vs Everton and 3 vs West Brom
In the FA cup alone conceded 4 goals


In the EPL for Liverpool

Last season conceded 10, this season 5

Total in EPL 15

Total overall 15 + 15 + 4 = 34 goals conceded

Now Laporte 30 games played for City

Last season CL 7 goals conceded, this season CL 3 goals conceded
Total CL goals conceded 10

FA cup 1 goal conceded vs Wigan

EPL
5 goals conceded last season 5 conceded this season

Total EPL goals conceded 10

10 EPL + 10 UCL + 1 FA cup = 21 goals conceded

Laporte conceded 21 goals in 30 games
VVD conceeded 34 goals in 38 games

Laporte has played Liverpool thrice, Chelsea twice, Spurs twice, Arsenal once Man Utd once

You can disagree with any of these facts above.

BlackManta:


You shouldn't have bothered mentioning the big teams LaPorte faced cuz its very obvious that VVD faced more challenging and big teams than him.

If you want me to list all big teams both of them faced.

Come on let's do it and know who faced more challenges.

It's VVD.

Where did you get the stats that says VVD conceded 34 goals and LaPorte 21.

Mind you, I did not count unofficial matches like club friendly and pre season games.

VVD also played 9 more games than LaPorte.

Don't forget that.

sod09:

Doesn't change the fact I don't like them

airmark:




You won a fight without lifting a hand.

raumdeuter:


I listed the big games because you fraudulently wanted us to believe Laporte was only playing Swansea and cardiff. So in case you have forgotten

3 times vs Liverpool twice vs Chelsea and Spurs etc

I listed the competitions where they conceded which you quoted you are free to disagree with any of them, the first thing is to get your facts straight

BlackManta:


I never said LaPorte never played big teams.

My point is he spent more time playing small teams and less big and challenging teams than VVD.

If you want me to list the games, I can do that.

LaPorte played big teams, yes, but not as much as VVD.

In conclusion....


1. Taking into account the number of big teams VVD faced which is more than LaPorte did.

2. Taking into account that VVD played 9 more games than LaPorte...hence facing more challenges than LaPorte.
Here, the defender with more games get more credit.

3. Taking into account that VVD played more matches with a shitty keeper like Karius as against LaPorte playing with a fantastic keeper like Ederson.
(with Allison at the post now, the tides are changing for VVD.. .no more Karuis...good)

Taking. into consideration the afformentioned factors.

LaPorte is good but VVD is the best.

No disrespect to LaPorte, I have to admit he's a close second

raumdeuter:
Where is blackmanta to bring his facts

Maybe you havent been told, I bludgeon people t death with facts. So the first thing is to always get your facts right and leave your emotions at the door

popizaino:
Only when you are not discussing about hazard.

raumdeuter:
As for the Karius excuse

This season without Karius

VVD 16 games 1405 mins 10 goals conceded
Laporte 17 games 1527 mins played 8 goals conceded

Laporte has played more games and conceded less goals

I am expecting the next excuse

This is the thing about facts they are stubborn and dont bend to emotional arguments

raumdeuter:


After getting exposed by superior facts you are now backtracking or who wrote this

"While LaPorte was playing small teams like Swansea, Cardiff, Newcastle, Watford etc.. Teams that will barely attack you."


Are you able to dispute this fact

Laporte conceded 21 goals in 30 games
VVD conceeded 34 goals in 38 games

A40:
Hahaha this guy is on crack.

Lemar will never do better than Mbappe even if he was played at CF. Lemar is already a sure bet as the biggest flop of the season and you're busy chatting megedefegede. Wasn't Lemar added to provide creativity? What has he done since? Go and hide your face my friend

Mbappe has been useless in the CL? Where do you watch your own CL? OGBC 2? Who provided their goal against Napoli and how did he do it? Now compare to your useless Thomas Lemar who has no goal nor assist

Losing the likes of Fabinho and Joao Moutinho didn't hurt them too abi? Lol you need blood tonic

Afolabi6046:
VVD's purchase has immensely improved Liverpool's defence, every sensible being knows that. Wonder why Liverpool is sitting second? Normally they would have drawn some small teams. I don't know why people would choose to argue simple things.

Leyqute:
Lookat Kortoise

BlueRayDick:


Liverpool have been sitting second even without VVD. Even under Brendan Roger's sef

raumdeuter:
Where is blackmanta to bring his facts

Maybe you havent been told , I bludgeon people t death with facts. So the first thing is to always get your facts right and leave your emotions at the door

eph12:

Chelsea has been winning the making top 4 or even winning the league, so there's nothing interesting about what Sarri is doing

airmark:
Morata needs help

Leyqute:
Lookat Kortoise

BlueRayDick:


Liverpool have been sitting second even without VVD. Even under Brendan Roger's sef