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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 9:56pm On Nov 22, 2018
Icon4s There's something I'm not clear on regarding the award oo.. is it only the committee members that will b responsible for nominating players for each category and deciding on the winners or will members of this thread also have a say?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 9:57pm On Nov 22, 2018
Curtisaxel7:
I honestly don't see why we are going for Seyi Ojo. For Chrissakes our team is overflowing with wingers presently. Even someone in the caliber of Simon Moses now struggles to make our bench!. I hear Ojo is a left footed RW, but we already have Chukwueze who has the very same characteristics (and plays at a higher level). So why exactly do we need Seyi Ojo?.

Let the NFF find us CREATIVE MIDFIELDERS. That is all we ask. AM's and CM's are welcome, any other position is not a priority for now.

We need seyi ojo for our Olympic team ,2020 is near

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 9:59pm On Nov 22, 2018
groundnutoil:
how old is onyekuru
Onyekuru is not a CF.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:01pm On Nov 22, 2018
I think members will vote for the already decided nominees
Danielnino00:
Icon4s There's something I'm not clear on regarding the award oo.. is it only the committee members that will b responsible for nominating players for each category and deciding on the winners or will members of this thread also have a say?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:06pm On Nov 22, 2018
komekn:


I disagree, his immediate impact and resurgence in the Russian league, made way for him.

Made way for Musa in what way? Was Musa ever dropped by Rohr? No. So how did moving yo Russia make way for him?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 10:10pm On Nov 22, 2018
groundnutoil:
yea like Collins who is so good that he plays in German 2nd division
most of your players play abroad just because they were born there that's why we are always dragging nationality with the countries the play in
you think some of the npfl players won't do better if the had a more better condition to show their skills
besides most or your super eagles are bench warmers in their league
and your best player in the super eagles now (musa) started in the Npfl and proved himself before he went abroad
the guy who gave u your last afcon title Sunday mbah was playing in the league
ur best player in ur last under 23 African nation cup (etebo) was with warri wolves dn
abeg talk another thing
granted the league quality no dey dat high doesn't mean there aren't good players in the league too
trying playing in bad pitches without salaries for months and still put up some good displays and tell me you won't do more if given a more comfortable display consistently
Ikouwem is not dear yet.

He needs to leave the NPFL .

Their is a criteria for call-up which is league quality.

You can't be playing in the Vietnam league and be expecting call-up.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:12pm On Nov 22, 2018
gamaliel9:



There was some level of organization and confidence was on and off but i liked the way they defended...i think they afraid or respected Brazil too much...overall they are progressing...

Exactly my thoughts far more cohesion against us they seemed very erratic and disorganised.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:12pm On Nov 22, 2018
OMANBALA1:
Truth is that Iheanacho has not made much progress as a developing player, and its beginning to look like what we have seen so far is all he has to offer. In the beginning at tbe U17 world cup he was banging in goals after goals and we thought we had found a gem in our hands. He was signed and the goals continue under former Man City boss but it became interesting that most of his goals came by mere tap ins. And, all of a sudden, the same player known for his swift movements with the ball and wizardry deft touches became bereft of ideas when the ball is in his feet.

His fans came to his defence and pointed out he was an emerging talent and will come good with time. Things got worse under the watch of the meticulous Pep Guadiola, and Nacho dropped down the pecking order. It was rumored Guadiola was a racist and people compared Kelechi to Jesus. The lad banged in couple of goals but to the discerning eyes it was obvious he did not measure up.

Kelechi was shipped out to Leicester and he continued with his struggle. Ok, the boy had a little setback with injury but after he became match fit the expectation that followed his U17 exploits were yet to be met. The man went to the world cup and simply didn't play. His delivery became inconsistent and it began to look like Kelechi would never meet his target. Kelechi has the most opportunity out of all his mate at the U17, meanwhile, he has regressed instead. Suddenly, Kelechi could not keep a soccer ball to his feet , he has no vision ,and his trademark defense splitting passes didn't get better. He lurks around the 18 yard box waiting for the slightest opportunity to tap a goal in. It is painfully depressing.

The question now becomes ,will Iheanacho ever come good ?
What will be the next excuse ?

The bolded is so so wrong. Puts a big dent to your comment.

Watch some of Nacho's goals for City and tell me they were mere tap ins.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF7GiqfVX_E

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 10:14pm On Nov 22, 2018
Joebie:
I like he idea of reducing the traveling for league games
We aren't the largest country on the continent, heck even in West Africa.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:15pm On Nov 22, 2018
andrew444:


lol but I no fight nah

Abi the truth dey pain you ?

No b the same seedorf wey dey coach Cameroon ?

Tell me something I don't know ?

If seedorf is a good coach he won't even rush to take cameroun job with the name he has all over Europe .

Unfortunately the reality is that RACISM is still alive and thriving. How many black Managers do you see in the entire UK from non league to the EPL. Not even a handful.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:16pm On Nov 22, 2018
Yes and we have the best roads in the continent
Odunayaw:
We aren't the largest country on the continent, heck even in West Africa.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:16pm On Nov 22, 2018
OMANBALA1:
Truth is that Iheanacho has not made much progress as a developing player, and its beginning to look like what we have seen so far is all he has to offer. In the beginning at tbe U17 world cup he was banging in goals after goals and we thought we had found a gem in our hands. He was signed and the goals continue under former Man City boss but it became interesting that most of his goals came by mere tap ins. And, all of a sudden, the same player known for his swift movements with the ball and wizardry deft touches became bereft of ideas when the ball is in his feet.

His fans came to his defence and pointed out he was an emerging talent and will come good with time. Things got worse under the watch of the meticulous Pep Guadiola, and Nacho dropped down the pecking order. It was rumored Guadiola was a racist and people compared Kelechi to Jesus. The lad banged in couple of goals but to the discerning eyes it was obvious he did not measure up.

Kelechi was shipped out to Leicester and he continued with his struggle. Ok, the boy had a little setback with injury but after he became match fit the expectation that followed his U17 exploits were yet to be met. The man went to the world cup and simply didn't play. His delivery became inconsistent and it began to look like Kelechi would never meet his target. Kelechi has the most opportunity out of all his mate at the U17, meanwhile, he has regressed instead. Suddenly, Kelechi could not keep a soccer ball to his feet , he has no vision ,and his trademark defense splitting passes didn't get better. He lurks around the 18 yard box waiting for the slightest opportunity to tap a goal in. It is painfully depressing.

The question now becomes ,will Iheanacho ever come good ?
What will be the next excuse ?

So much misconception in your comment. Did you see Nacho's pass to Musa that was called offside? That was just his last game for the Super Eagles. Nacho won some balls in the midfield, dropped deep to build up play but you write waiting to tap in. It is clear you totally do not follow Nacho's game at all.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 10:18pm On Nov 22, 2018
groundnutoil:
yea like Collins who is so good that he plays in German 2nd division
most of your players play abroad just because they were born there that's why we are always dragging nationality with the countries the play in
you think some of the npfl players won't do better if the had a more better condition to show their skills
besides most or your super eagles are bench warmers in their league
and your best player in the super eagles now (musa) started in the Npfl and proved himself before he went abroad
the guy who gave u your last afcon title Sunday mbah was playing in the league
ur best player in ur last under 23 African nation cup (etebo) was with warri wolves dn
abeg talk another thing
granted the league quality no dey dat high doesn't mean there aren't good players in the league too
trying playing in bad pitches without salaries for months and still put up some good displays and tell me you won't do more if given a more comfortable display consistently
Sunday Mba gave us the trophy but their are better mid-fielders who play in Europe who would 've done better but due to the 7 slots for Home based players then we had no choice but to make do with what we have.

We have "raw" talents in the league but they need to leave the league to be "refined".
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:19pm On Nov 22, 2018
gamaliel9:



grin grin grin eeem eeem clears throat again....he is a winger...he is not better than the ones in the team....and Chukwueze has joined too....i do not think we will need him...unless Rohr thinks of French connection to sneak him into the team...otherwise....He is not better than than the two Kalus,Simon,Onyekuru,Musa....in short our wings are LOADED...NFF SHOULD BE GOING FOR MIDFIELDERS AND DEFENDERS FOR NOW

The NFF should be seeking the very best that we can get. Mediocrity and favoritism should not be enthroned over merit and quality.

Compare any of our wingers statistics to the those of Seyi Ojo. And then make an unbiased objective judgement.

What we have is OPPORTUNITY given without merit and Opportunity denied without reason. If indeed the quest is to find the best.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 10:19pm On Nov 22, 2018
komekn:


Unfortunately the reality is that RACISM is still alive and thriving. How many black Managers do you see in the entire UK from non league to the EPL. Not even a handful.

I know it's hard for black coaches no doubt ,there was a black coach who did well in west brom,you remember right,I think he is still their coach now .

There are few good black coaches compared to others ,seedorf got his chance at Milan and blew it up,with seedorf ac Milan was turn from average team to below average team .

I am watching Henry right now and I am hoping he takes his chances unless good job like coaching Monaco will be hard to come by anytime soon ,then maybe shortly you will hear that Thierry Henry is the head coach of Madagascar national team .

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:21pm On Nov 22, 2018
EEGA:
Ikouwem is not dear yet.

He needs to leave the NPFL .

Their is a criteria for call-up which is league quality.

You can't be playing in the Vietnam league and be expecting call-up.

When did leaving the NPFL become a criteria. Then we blame players for signing slave contracts in backwater leagues.

If the player is good enough, give him his chance.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:24pm On Nov 22, 2018
EEGA:
Sunday Mba gave us the trophy but their are better mid-fielders who play in Europe who would 've done better but due to the 7 slots for Home based players then we had no choice but to make do with what we have.

We have "raw" talents in the league but they need to leave the league to be "refined".

Mba was a right call and he delivered. Thanks to the deep understanding of the coach.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:24pm On Nov 22, 2018
Curtisaxel7:
I honestly don't see why we are going for Seyi Ojo. For Chrissakes our team is overflowing with wingers presently. Even someone in the caliber of Simon Moses now struggles to make our bench!. I hear Ojo is a left footed RW, but we already have Chukwueze who has the very same characteristics (and plays at a higher level). So why exactly do we need Seyi Ojo?.

Let the NFF find us CREATIVE MIDFIELDERS. That is all we ask. AM's and CM's are welcome, any other position is not a priority for now.

What you are implying if not saying is that Chukwueze is better than Seyi Ojo ❓ am l right, don't wish to presume.

And if so, how have you come to that conclusion

Unless opportunity is given we can not clearly determine a players impact on the SE. For good or better or is thier a fear that a better player may displace some of our home grown favoured players.

My view give the most deserving OPPORTUNITY and let the best player be selected. Unless you don't wish to have competitive selection just favoritism.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel7(m): 10:25pm On Nov 22, 2018
andrew444:

We need seyi ojo for our Olympic team ,2020 is near
Unless if.
But for SE, no vacancy!.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:28pm On Nov 22, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


When did leaving the NPFL become a criteria. Then we blame players for signing slave contracts in backwater leagues.

If the player is good enough, give him his chance.


Agreed without one iota of reservation or question


Opportunity is everything and players should be given OPPORTUNITY based on merit. I am even inclined to have positive discrimination towards local players in the local league. Based on potential.

Given better training and a more professional structure to improve and develop. You will see many starts being born. IMO.

After all consider where did Amokachi, Yekini, Keshi, come from.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:29pm On Nov 22, 2018
komekn:



Agreed without one iota of reservation or question


Opportunity is everything and players should be given OPPORTUNITY based on merit. I am even inclined to have positive discrimination towards local players in the local league. Based on potential.

Given better training and a more professional structure to improve and develop. You will see many starts being born. IMO.

I agree 100%.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 10:32pm On Nov 22, 2018
komekn:


The NFF should be seeking the very best that we can get. Mediocrity and favoritism should not be enthroned over merit and quality.

Compare any of our wingers statistics to the those of Seyi Ojo. And then make an unbiased objective judgement.

What we have is OPPORTUNITY given without merit and Opportunity denied without reason. If indeed the quest is to find the best.



Seyi Ojo

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:33pm On Nov 22, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


I agree 100%.

Sunday Mba was so promising at this stage I was personally involved with an EPL club that wanted him.

But the drama at Warri Wolves prevented that from happening, he didn't even know that all this was going on.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 10:34pm On Nov 22, 2018
andrew444:


I know it's hard for black coaches no doubt ,there was a black coach who did well in west brom,you remember right,I think he is still their coach now .

There are few good black coaches compared to others ,seedorf got his chance at Milan and blew it up,with seedorf ac Milan was turn from average team to below average team .

I am watching Henry right now and I am hoping he takes his chances unless good job like coaching Monaco will be hard to come by anytime soon, then maybe shortly you will hear that Thierry Henry is the head coach of Madagascar national team .
.
grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel7(m): 10:36pm On Nov 22, 2018
komekn:


Unless opportunity is given we can not clearly determine a players impact on the SE.

This is the absurdest thing I've heard today.

Going by your logic, the NFF should invite EVERY SINGLE footballer of Nigerian descent to camp in order to give them opportunity to "determine thier impact on the SE".

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 10:39pm On Nov 22, 2018
komekn:


What you are implying if not saying is that Chukwueze is better than Seyi Ojo ❓ am l right, don't wish to presume.

And if so, how have you come to that conclusion

Unless opportunity is given we can not clearly determine a players impact on the SE. For good or better or is thier a fear that a better player may displace some of our home grown favoured players.

My view give the most deserving OPPORTUNITY and let the best player be selected. Unless you don't wish to have competitive selection just favoritism.




What do you mean by opportunity? I think you are over-emphasizing on it
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel7(m): 10:40pm On Nov 22, 2018
Utonwanne:


Seyi Ojo

Lol. The guy appears to be a habitual journeyman. And what is that I see?......he hasn't scored a single goal since this year?.

Seriously? Is this the guy we want in our SE?. I laugh in Chinese.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:42pm On Nov 22, 2018
Curtisaxel7:


This is the absurdest thing I've heard today.

Going by your logic, the NFF should also invite EVERY SINGLE footballer of Nigerian descent to camp in order to give them opportunity to "determine thier impact on the SE".

That's not what I am saying AT ALL.

I don't know how you came to that conclusion.

Look at all my posts repeatedly I have given a basic requisite structure format for player selection. That is objective, measured and transparent.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 10:43pm On Nov 22, 2018
Joebie:
Yes and we have the best roads in the continent
grin

Anyway I don't buy the idea of an abridged league
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel7(m): 10:43pm On Nov 22, 2018
komekn:


That's not what I am saying AT ALL.

I don't know how you came to that conclusion.

Look at all my posts repeatedly I have given a basic requisite structure format for player selection. That is objective, measured and transparent.


And what if I may ask is that "format"?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 10:45pm On Nov 22, 2018
Curtisaxel7:


Lol. The guy appears to be a habitual journeyman. And what is that I see......he hasn't scored a single goal since this year?.

Seriously? Is this the guy we want in our SE?. I laugh in Chinese.

The stats only shows league match and correct as of 20th October. I think he score few weeks back shaa.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:01pm On Nov 22, 2018
What’s the point of the usual league? Nothing really separates the league winners from the rest than the number of away draws
they can garner. Let a broadcasted super 6 mini tourney in a neutral venue decide the eventual winner. At least we can all have a better look at the refs performances.

Odunayaw:
grin

Anyway I don't buy the idea of an abridged league

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