raumdeuter:


If Madrid didnt win la decima, there is no way those players will leave and they wont replace them with high profile transfers

winning ladecima made them relax

Your logic would have made sense if they stopped winning and they didn't replace those players

eph12:

Your logic would have made sense if they stopped winning and they didn't replace those players

They relaxed which was evident from their weak transfer dealings but even in their relaxed state they were better than most clubs and they continued winning

The Madrid that was breaking records upon records signed 2 WPOTY in one window suddenly is making Vicinius Rodrigo Mariano and Oodegard their main transfer and you dont see a difference

Unlimited22:
Kyle Walker-Peters garnered three assists in 35 minutes in Spurs last match. Mesut Ozil has had one all season.

how many has almighty jorginho gathered?

BikeMan:
Defender of the Defenseless. Grand Impersonation

lmao...you mean the avenger
Scummy agbejoro

sod09:
how many has almighty jorginho gathered?

Are you a goat? How many assists did Modric have last season?

Unlimited22:

Are you a goat? How many assists did Modric have last season?

are you a slowpoke?
How many has jorginho gathered this season

KevinDein:

Yep.

Liverpool have gotten significantly better. Signing VVD turned their once extremely leaky defence into by far the stingiest in the history of the EPL. They are having their best start to a league campaign in history (and they used to be damn good in the 80s and 70s). Spurs haven't made any signings but their young squad are coming into the new season a year older and more experienced hence why they are also having an amazing season so far. All other teams have invested and have gotten better and aren't afraid to have a go at City. I mean everyone is beginning to realize that though city are great going forward, defensively they just hate it when you come at them.

These really aren't the reasons why city are not the title favorite. They just aren't motivated enough.

I'm having a headache trying to digest this logic.

The headache no me small one o...

raumdeuter:


They relaxed which was evident from their weak transfer dealings but even in their relaxed state they were better than most clubs and they continued winning

The Madrid that was breaking records upon records signed 2 WPOTY in one window suddenly is making Vicinius Rodrigo Mariano and Oodegard their main transfer and you dont see a difference

So they realized that they didn't need to sign WPOY to continue to dominate Europe. Big deal?
They relaxed in buying players or competing for trophies?

eph12:

So they realized that they didn't need to sign WPOY to continue to dominate Europe. Big deal?
They relaxed in buying players or competing for trophies?

Why did they realize this? Do you think they would have stopped if they didnt win La decima

raumdeuter:


Why did they realize this? Do you think they would have stopped if they didnt win La decima

I don't understand this question. Which club will stop trying to get better players to win a trophy whether it's the first or the last one? Can Man Utd now claim to have relaxed in competing for the league because they have won it more than every other club?

RM already had the better players, better than most of the players they had when they won LA decima.

patrickmuf:
The rubbish you get to read here is one too many...
Imagine Dayo saying City are not motivated to win the league after winning it last season, if this excuse held sway then Madrid can be excused from participating in the UCL or for serving their fans drab performances going forward since they have won it thrice at a go.

And look at that other guy trying so hard to spin a straight forward comment. Dayo said Pep has disgraced the EPL by winning it and in the process breaking some records...Couple of guys in response asked if Mou also disgraced LA Liga by winning it with records points and most goals? Straight forward question oh! But the one that thinks himself as knowledgeable started his work as defender of the defenseless...

Special praise goes out to that folks that was careful enough to burst his lies in support of Pep...

0 sense made.

Not everyone who wins a league disgraced the league in the process.

One team was 19pts ahead of the other. The other team was 9pts ahead.

One team won the league with 5 games to spare. The other team won the league with 1 game to spare.

One team had 77+ goals or so..the next team had 20 or 30+ compared to Mou's team having 89 GD compared to barca having 85.

One team scored the most and conceded the least. In fact had the best record in almost everything (as per that one season compared to everyone else). The other team did not.

The only similar achievements between both teams was 100pts, number of wins and the record goals scored. Problem is, the very next season someone else achieved the wins and points haul.

How does anyone with a straight face now claim that RM team disgraced the league when someone else was virtually neck and neck with them and even readily surpassed them the following season?

And if a record of 100points is being discussed the correct way to table the record is to say 2 people in La Liga have done that.

It is common-sense but this is a Chelsea thread so no surprises if some Chelsea fans and apologists don't have sense.

In one breath, La Liga is easy. It is a 2-horse race. In another breath, they compare a La Liga record to EPL and don't see that they are indirectly saying anyone who can replicate a La Liga record in the EPL has disgraced the so-called most competitive league in the world.

LMAOO.

eph12:
RM already had the better players, better than most of the players they had when they won LA decima.

If they didnt win la decima they will continue to buy

For instance there are players out there better than Asensio, isco, Vasquez etc that they could have bought to improve their team assuming they didnt win ladecima

eph12:

I don't understand this question. Which club will stop trying to get better players to win a trophy whether it's the first or the last one? Can Man Utd now claim to have relaxed in competing for the league because they have won it more than every other club?

They had a ladecima target and they bought and bought until they won it, after winning they relaxed in the market, assuming they didnt win La decima, they probably would have signed more marquee players by now to win ldecima

raumdeuter:


They had a ladecima target and they bought and bought until they won it, after winning they relaxed in the market, assuming they didnt win La decima, they probably would have signed more marquee players by now to win ldecima

OK I get now. No wonder bundesliga clubs stopped doing well in europe.

eph12:
OK I get now. No wonder bundesliga clubs stopped doing well in europe.

It's only logical once you win a huge target you tend to relax, it happens to everyone. For Bundesliga teams, once UEFA guaranteed 4 CL spots for 4 top leagues the motivation went down

Liverpool and City have a different motivation. Call the City fans or Liverpool fans ask them which one will they rather win CL or EPL and their answers will most likely be different

Once you understand the logic behind it, everything else is so easy

raumdeuter:


It's only logical once you win a huge target you tend to relax, it happens to everyone. For Bundesliga teams, once UEFA guaranteed 4 CL spots for 4 top leagues the motivation went down

Liverpool and City have a different motivation. Call the City fans or Liverpool fans ask them which one will they rather win CL or EPL and their answers will most likely be different

Once you understand the logic behind it, everything else is so easy

Wow we learn every day. The fans are the ones that determine the trophies their clubs should win.

Tuale raumdeuter. Tuale!

I don't agree with most of your opinions here but I gast admire your one-man-squad mentality.

Year in year out you dey here dey defend your opinions. You no dey ever tire.

You too much man! Tuale!

timbros:
Tuale raumdeuter. Tuale!

I don't agree with most of your opinions here but I gast admire your one-man-squad mentality.

Year in year out you dey here dey defend your opinions. You no dey ever tire.

You too much man! Tuale!

More like repeating the same thing over and over especially if he's caught

raumdeuter:


5yrs before La Decima, Madrid broke the world record for Ronaldo Kaka and Bale. when was the last time Madrid spent like that. Why was the days of Galacticos long gone? You think if Madrid still hasnt won the CL till date they won't be buying furiously?
Why do you think Madrid is pushing Asensio, Vasquez Ceballos Mariano and other young inexperienced players into the team? If they hadnt won la decima you can be assure that instead of Asensio Mariano Vazquez it will be Lewandoski, Neymar, and any star they see

You are really funny if you think because other teams have money Madrid wont spend and it shows you are new to this European football thing

Let Madrid go 5yrs without impact in the CL and this same Galacticos era you claimed was gone will be back in full force

In the early 2000 when the Galacticos policy started you thought only Madrid had money? Lazio was rich and breaking world record, Inter was rich and breaking world records, Barcelona was rich, Man utd was rich, Milan was rich Yet did that stop Madrid?

How can Madrid point at Figo and get him, how did they point at Zidane and get him, How did they point at Ronaldo and get him. Are these players more difficult to get than Neymar?

Madrid can just go to Barcelona and get Figo but they cannot go to PSG and get Neymar? you think Neymar is harder to get in 2018 than Figo in 2000?

Its how things work, Most coaches will tell you its hard finding motivation after breaking a barrier. They can try but will always notice a significant drop in desire

u don dey follow ball since 2000's.

Oh mehn u be grandpa ooo

Eruditor:


0 sense made.

Not everyone who wins a league disgraced the league in the process.

One team was 19pts ahead of the other. The other team was 9pts ahead.

One team won the league with 5 games to spare. The other team won the league with 1 game to spare.

One team had 77+ goals or so..the next team had 20 or 30+ compared to Mou's team having 89 GD compared to barca having 85.

One team scored the most and conceded the least. In fact had the best record in almost everything (as per that one season compared to everyone else). The other team did not.

The only similar achievements between both teams was 100pts, number of wins and the record goals scored. Problem is, the very next season someone else achieved the wins and points haul.

How does anyone with a straight face now claim that RM team disgraced the league when someone else was virtually neck and neck with them and even readily surpassed them the following season?

And if a record of 100points is being discussed the correct way to table the record is to say 2 people in La Liga have done that.

It is common-sense but this is a Chelsea thread so no surprises if some Chelsea fans and apologists don't have sense.

In one breath, La Liga is easy. It is a 2-horse race. In another breath, they compare a La Liga record to EPL and don't see that they are indirectly saying anyone who can replicate a La Liga record in the EPL has disgraced the so-called most competitive league in the world.

LMAOO.

You have started again with records, same records you dropped here and was disgraced terribly.
A record is a record, this rubbish you're spewing is undigested amala.

Ibime:


First comot Alonso and Luiz before killing him.

I don't know if Regista can work in EPL, but if Jorginho can't work, no Regista can. Pirlo would have come under the same physical pressure if he played in EPL. Takeaway weakness of Alonso and Luiz and Regista may work.

Still on siddon look mode.

Regista can work in EPL.
Michael carrick was one
Xabi alonzo was another one.


Physicality isn't jorginho's only problem.

Eruditor:

It is common-sense but this is a Chelsea thread so no surprises if some Chelsea fans and apologists don't have sense.

Fun fact:- He's a Man Utd fan.

Honestly, you strike me as a bigot.

Ibime:


No mind that Lruditor jare.

Is the 100 points Pep gathered in EPL greater than the 100 points Mourinho gathered in LaLiga? Soon they will turn amala and tell you EPL is harder than LaLiga.

The pertinent question here is how a no-name manager like Tata Martino abi na Tito managed to achieve more points in 1 season than Pep could manage in 4 years.

This is to show you that any success a manager achieves at Barca is carryalong success. Pep carryalong, Enrique carryalong, Tata carryalong. They even carried along Skype manager to title. One dead man managed to win league title coaching his team over Skype from hospital bed in New York.

Chei, Messi and co done really try for some managers. Pep is just lucky to follow one of the most clueless managers called Rijkaard who relegated a team in Holland and got sacked in Saudi Arabia, making it look like he brought a big change, whereas he only took over from a complete incompetent.

Chai I don't know why this messi no carry in national team managers like he has been carrying his club coaches.

Little wonder why c.ronaldo could carry most coaches to win ucl but couldn't carry jose mourinho.

popizaino:


Regista can work in EPL.
Michael carrick was one
Xabi alonzo was another one.


Physicality isn't jorginho's only problem.

Why do you always think like fish? We are talking one thing, you are talking another.

They can be Registas but did not play as Registas.

Benitez Liverpool team did not play ultrapossession football, neither did Fergies.

eph12:

Wow we learn every day. The fans are the ones that determine the trophies their clubs should win.

Club fans, management and coaches in many cases share the same sentiments

Tell me which trophy City and Liverpool will rather win and why

timbros:
Tuale raumdeuter. Tuale!

I don't agree with most of your opinions here but I gast admire your one-man-squad mentality.

Year in year out you dey here dey defend your opinions. You no dey ever tire.

You too much man! Tuale!

Its simple logic, If you have the basics right its not hard to follow

eph12:

More like repeating the same thing over and over especially if he's caught

You know the truth and fact is always constant. Its always the bedrock of an argument and logic can be extended to cover your facts

krattoss:
u don dey follow ball since 2000's.
Oh mehn u be grandpa ooo

Way before 2000 actually my first memory of football dates back to Canada 87 so that is over 30yrs of watching and following football and tactics

So its not one canopy analyst

Please Unlimited22 summarize for me abeg

Ibime:


Why do you always think like fish? We are talking one thing, you are talking another.

They can be Registas but did not play as Registas.

Benitez Liverpool team did not play ultrapossession football, neither did Fergies.

Your snide remarks won't change the fact that you are probably the one thinking like a fish and talking another thing.


Xabi alonzo can be called a Regista but doesn't play like a Regista.Tell this to your disciples not me.


What does Regista has to do with ultra possession football or mourinho's kind of football ?Did you include ultra possession football when you assume if Regista could not work in epl?I gave two solid midfielders (Regista)who excelled playing in the epl you shifted the goal post to ultrapossession football.