Maximus69:

He asked a SEEMINGLY simple question, you've presented your answer without any confrontation, please why the intolerance over the presentation of another person? Mark 9:14
BY THEIR FRUIT! Matthew 7:15-20
If all you can offer is your PERSONAL opinion and someone else directs the one asking to where he can get adequate info, why not stay on your lane?

It is a very simple question: have you read....?
It is Either YES, NO or Partially!
If you have any contribution, do! QED!

Would you have answered the questions if he came for your bible studies?

shadeyinka:

It is a very simple question: have you read....?
It is Either YES, NO or Partially!
If you have any contribution, do! QED!

Would you have answered the questions if he came for your bible studies?

Hmmm,
Obviously the impatient spirit in you couldn't allow you to notice the word SEEMINGLY!
Well for your information, there are certain things a newly interested person can't grasp within few days as per the TRUTH, so our friend needs more time with intensive Bible study to unravel most sacred secrets! John 16:12
God bless you!

Maximus69:
Hmmm,
Obviously the impatient spirit in you couldn't allow you to notice the word SEEMINGLY!
Well for your information, there are certain things a newly interested person can't grasp within few days as per the TRUTH, so our friend needs more time with intensive Bible study to unravel most sacred secrets! John 16:12
God bless you!

Yes!
He needs intensive brainwashing with watchtower doctrines and the exclusion of what the Bible really teaches.

I am not stopping you from doing what you want: making proselytes of the JW organisation rather than Disciples of Jesus Christ.

Let me leave you to do your work. I was just amusing to me I shouldn't even poke my nose!

Maximus69:

You can't become fully competent while asking questions on FACELESS social media!
My advice is start a free home Bible study with us first, then you'll know how many schemes Satan have employed in order to discredit the sacred writtings!
To illustrate! Think of an enemy whose hideout has been exposed, in his bid to cause confusion he built an estate around his dwelling making all the buildings appear the same way. How are you going to monitor his movement without first learning about his personal traits and plans?
So get to study the Bible FACE TO FACE with JWs and then ask any question that comes to your mind! You can't rescue a drowning man if you're not an expert in swimming!

Thanks!

But have you read those books? I just wanna know...

OkCornel:


Thanks!

But have you read those books? I just wanna know...

I have read several books about religion but truthfully speaking i've not read those ones. One thing that gave me the confidence that the Bible consist of just 66 books is what Jesus said regarding divine wisdom! 'By their fruit' Matthew 7:15-20
Let any of them apply the information they've got apart from what is found in those 66 books, if it's divine surely it will become obvious BY THEIR WORKS 'practical applications of what they've acquired'!

shadeyinka:

I haven't directly read them but I know a little about each
1. The Urantia papers to me are just a bunch of pseudo Christian philosophy in the order of the Grail Message. I am not aware of they have a formal religious outfit/worship centers

2. The Ethiopian Coptic Bible contain ALL the mainstream bible books in addition to several others. It looks like they didn't discriminate over a purely religion history book or inspired book. The question of what make a book inspired and others not is beyond this medium. In other words all the library of "Religious books" are included in the Ethiopian Coptic Bible!

I agree with your submission. shalom Aleichem.

Janosky:


I agree with your submission. shalom Aleichem.

God's peace be unto you too!

Janosky:


I agree with your submission. shalom Aleichem.

Lol... the bolded reminds me of Salaam Alekum...
Not sure if I spelt that correctly...

OkCornel:


Lol... the bolded reminds me of Salaam Alekum...
Not sure if I spelt that correctly...

It is exactly the same meaning with the Arabic Salaam Aleikum:

Both Arabic and Hebrew belong to the same family of the Semitic languages.

The proper response to the greeting is: Alechem Shalom!

johnw47:



it would not be good grammar for david to say: the Jehovah said to my Jehovah

david said: the Jehovah said to my Lord

and so Father Jehovah said to david's Lord Jesus Christ

Natural born LIAR,Lying johnw Pharisee....
*** * "That people may know that you whose name is Jehovah, you ALONE are the Most High over all the earth" Psalms 83:18.

*"You alone" indicates that ONLY ONE SPIRIT PERSON, the Father has the name 'Jehovah'.

*** Jesus is NOT Jehovah...
" .....You are to call his name Jesus... and will be called son of the Most High God" Luke1:32,33. Mark5:7.

"Only The Father of Jesus, whose name is Jehovah, is the Most High God.
Even though lying john pharisee is allergic to the truth, two spirit persons can not be "Most High".

Janosky:

Natural born LIAR,Lying johnw Pharisee....
*** * "That people may know that you whose name is Jehovah, you ALONE are the Most High over all the earth" Psalms 83:18.

*"You alone" indicates that ONLY ONE SPIRIT PERSON, the Father has the name 'Jehovah'.

*** Jesus is NOT Jehovah...
" .....You are to call his name Jesus... and will be called son of the Most High God" Luke1:32,33. Mark5:7.

Brother.. no need to continue with this discussion.. itz just a waste of time.. you see you have been discussing these same topics all this year and no progress so far..
remember matt 11:13-14
its is Jehovah's own work he promised to speed it up in its own time
today whether satan or any of its organizations like it or not..
people are getting baptized as one of Jehovah's witnesses.... in fact @least 700 people perday world wide..


we and these new ones know Jehovah
love him, know jesus, love him, we are free from babylon the Great,

OkCornel:


Lol... the bolded reminds me of Salaam Alekum...
Not sure if I spelt that correctly...

"Shalom Aleichem" is Arabic equivalent of "Sallam aleykum".
Hebrew "EL" is God.
Hebrew and Arabic are similar in some ways.
Shalom.

Crysthaniel:


Brother.. no need to continue with this discussion.. itz just a waste of time.. you see you have been discussing these same topics all this year and no progress so far..
remember matt 11:13-14
its is Jehovah's own work he promised to speed it up in its own time
today whether satan or any of its organizations like it or not..
people are getting baptized as one of Jehovah's witnesses.... in fact @least 700 people perday world wide..


we and these new ones know Jehovah
love him, know jesus, love him, we are free from babylon the Great,

Thanks, my sister. Noted.

Janosky:


Thanks, my sister. Noted.

I never wanted to argue with shadeyinka from the onset, i found in his thread arguing about Islam and i felt 'this could be an interested person needing help! Act 18:24-26
He felt we're on the same page, quickly i told him there are prerequisites for becoming a true Christians, then i discovered he felt he is ok, so i tried to end the conversation but one alBHAGDADI cut in, insisting we talk further, i tried to make shadeyinka realised that it's of no need since we will never agree on sacred matters. But himself and the other guy kept saying 'JWs will run' So i set rules that will prevent our discussion from becoming exchange of insults due to certain inevitable difference!
The other guy couldn't cope as he's fund of insulting, abusing and cursing people whose believes differs or contradicts his own, leaving shadeyinka and i to discuss on doctrines FRIENDLY!
Now with the way we've made enough presentations, observers could clearly see who is exhibiting the fruitage of God's spirit and the one having the loosed spirit of the world!
By the end shadeyinka could say to me,
YOU ARE A PRETENDER!
YOU ARE NOT PIOUS!
YOUR ORGANIZATON WILL TAKE YOU TO LAKE OF FIRE!
YOUR ORGANIZATION IS A CULT!
And so on!

Janosky:

Natural born LIAR,Lying johnw Pharisee....
*** * "That people may know that you whose name is Jehovah, you ALONE are the Most High over all the earth" Psalms 83:18.

lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

of course Jehovah God is the most high over all the earth, oh duh duh duh
and Jehovah God is Father and the Word, john 1:1

Janosky:
*"You alone" indicates that ONLY ONE SPIRIT PERSON,

of course Jehovah is one Spirit - is one God, oh duh,
unlike your two gods- two spirits, almighty god the father and mighty god jesus, oh polytheist false jw

Janosky:
the Father has the name 'Jehovah'.

laugh, oh know nothing, yes he does

Janosky:
*** Jesus is NOT Jehovah...
" .....You are to call his name Jesus... and will be called son of the Most High God" Luke1:32,33. Mark5:7.

ha ha, yes Jesus name is Jesus, and yes Jesus is the son of the most high(His Father)
Jesus is both man and God, man-flesh, God-Spirit
He is Jesus, He is Jehovah, oh know nothing Janosky/OneJ
would you like me to post verses again showing that Jesus is Jehovah?

Janosky:
"Only The Father of Jesus, whose name is Jehovah, is the Most High God.
Even though lying john pharisee is allergic to the truth, two spirit persons can not be "Most High".

indeed not, your two spirit persons almighty god the father and mighty god jesus cannot be the most high,
ooh most duh one, repeating your same confusion nonsense and lies over and over and over again


truly Father and the Word is God:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

there are many verses showing that Jesus is God, oh blinded false jw, would you like me to post some of them again for you? oh such a duh one

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

OkCornel:
Tatime, Maximus69, janosky, shadeyinka,...

Has any of you read either of the following;

1) The Urantia Papers
2) The Ethiopian Coptic Bible (it has 88 books or so...compared to the 66 books Bible)

Definitely no.

Jesus is Jehovah

Jehovah
Isa 45:22  Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. 
Isa 45:23  I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus
Php 2:10  That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 
Php 2:11  And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

shadeyinka:

Shameless people, if one of you didn't come online to be forming a non existent sinless perfection and the infallibility of your organisation, I wouldn't bring up the issue of Candace.

If your organisation is representing Jesus, it should do it in perfect holiness then we can follow them. If they can't keep the simplest of God's law: then those who follow them are IGNORANT

You're wrong, through and through.
Aside Jesus, no servant of Jehovah on earth is perfect.
No JW has ever said he's perfect, even though we firmly believe we're on the right track..
It's on record that we, JWs have said we're NOT infallible.
"Perfect holiness" ke ! hian!!! shuuooo !!!!

"perfect holiness" cum iniquity wey your popular born again sexual predator pastorpreneur dey build him scandalous reputation for messing up young ladies and women dey all over place (2 tim3:1-7).
As you and your crew dey claim born again "perfect holiness",none of una get "liver" give am public reprimand or even speak up against serial sexual predators and rapists hiding under the banner of "touch not my anointed" .
(1Cor5:1-13. Study am and receive sense).

nutarious:



You avoided many things, I will make you see them.

Can you explain Heb 1 vs 10? How come Jehovah called his creation Lord?

Then who said the Jews Lied, you or your scripture?

I have AVOIDED nothing, but you still resort to bring up Heb 1:10.
As usual the holy Scriptures will speak for itself....
**"* Heb1:10 is a repetition /quote of Psalms 102:25-27.
Let's begin from v24...
" So I said: do not take me ,away oh my God, in the midst of my days,your years go on through all generations.
v25 " In the beginning you laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the works of your hand......"
The Psalms 102:25-27 & Heb 1:10-13 is a reference to Jehovah, the God of David and Father of Jesus.
In Matt 11:25 Jesus calls his Father "Lord of heaven and earth", further proof that Heb 1:10-13 refers to 'Jehovah.

**

nutarious:



You avoided many things, I will make you see them.

Can you explain Heb 1 vs 10? How come Jehovah called his creation Lord?

Then who said the Jews Lied, you or your scripture?

Nutarious, when you "Call God your own Father", do you mean you are "making yourself equal with God"?

*** For once, be honest to yourself & answer the question above...***

I have AVOIDED nothing, but you still resort to bring up Heb 1:10.
As usual the holy Scriptures will speak for itself....
**"* Heb1:10 is a repetition /quote of Psalms 102:25-27.
Let's begin from v24...
" So I said: do not take me ,away oh my God, in the midst of my days,your years go on through all generations.
v25 " In the beginning you laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the works of your hand......"
The Psalms 102:25-27 & Heb 1:10-13 is a reference to Jehovah, the God of David and Father of Jesus.
In Matt 11:25 Jesus calls his Father "Lord of heaven and earth", further proof that Heb 1:10-13 refers to 'Jehovah.

*** Proverbs 8:22,27,29
" Lord Jehovah created me at the beginning of creation..."vs22

vs27 "I was there when He set the heavens in place..."

**vs29 " ...and when He marked out the foundation of the earth"

Jesus, the wisdom of God (1Cor1:24. Rev3:14) has revealed the truth.

Nutarious, you are either for the truth or against the truth.
Just make your choice.
Shalom.

Janosky:

You're wrong, through and through.
Aside Jesus, no servant of Jehovah on earth is perfect.
No JW has ever said he's perfect, even though we firmly believe we're on the right track..
It's on record that we, JWs have said we're NOT infallible.
"Perfect holiness" ke ! hian!!! shuuooo !!!!

"perfect holiness" cum iniquity wey your popular born again sexual predator pastorpreneur dey build him scandalous reputation for messing up young ladies and women dey all over place (2 tim3:1-7).
As you and your crew dey claim born again "perfect holiness",none of una get "liver" give am public reprimand or even speak up against serial sexual predators and rapists hiding under the banner of "touch not my anointed" .
(1Cor5:1-13. Study am and receive sense).

There is no perfect human being in this world BUT when one of you guys began to form a non existent perfection by accusing a sister of the sin of marrying an Atheist, I had to show him that he has not been given that power: a hypocrite of he highest order. When he insisted, I reminded him about Conti Candice's case to which he preferred buried! (This is pathetic for someone who has replaced the Holy Spirit with an Organisation in his life).

For your information, being born again isn't synonymous with sinless perfection. It simply means that one's name is written in the book of Life as a "Child of God": not born of the flesh alone but of the Holy Spirit.

I have only this Scripture for so called born against living a life of SIN/INIQUITY
2Tim 2:19:
"Nevertheless the foundation of God stands sure, having this seal, The Lord knows them that are his. And, Let every one that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity."

Maximus69:
I never wanted to argue with shadeyinka from the onset, i found in his thread arguing about Islam and i felt 'this could be an interested person needing help! Act 18:24-26
He felt we're on the same page, quickly i told him there are prerequisites for becoming a true Christians, then i discovered he felt he is ok, so i tried to end the conversation but one alBHAGDADI cut in, insisting we talk further, i tried to make shadeyinka realised that it's of no need since we will never agree on sacred matters. But himself and the other guy kept saying 'JWs will run' So i set rules that will prevent our discussion from becoming exchange of insults due to certain inevitable difference!
The other guy couldn't cope as he's fund of insulting, abusing and cursing people whose believes differs or contradicts his own, leaving shadeyinka and i to discuss on doctrines FRIENDLY!
Now with the way we've made enough presentations, observers could clearly see who is exhibiting the fruitage of God's spirit and the one having the loosed spirit of the world!
By the end shadeyinka could say to me,
YOU ARE A PRETENDER!
YOU ARE NOT PIOUS!
YOUR ORGANIZATON WILL TAKE YOU TO LAKE OF FIRE!
YOUR ORGANIZATION IS A CULT!
And so on!

So sweet words:

Maximus69:
Mrs Shalom Homosapien!
How come you know all of this but ended up marrying an Atheist?
Why are you so zealous for talks without doing what the WORD says?

shadeyinka:

There is no perfect human being in this world BUT when one of you guys began to form a non existent perfection by accusing a sister of the sin of marrying an Atheist, I had to show him that he has not been given that power: a hypocrite of he highest order. When he insisted, I reminded him about Conti Candice's case to which he preferred buried! (This is pathetic for someone who has replaced the Holy Spirit with an Organisation in his life).

Now you've erased all what i've been thinking about you with this post!
Please Sir, i'm deeply sorry for all those lengthy discussion because it's now obvious that you don't know the difference between INSULT and REPROOF!
There is no perfection now until after Christ's 1,000 years reign. But Christians can lovingly reproof one another by pointing out where there is a lacking. 2Timothy 3:16-17,4:1-2
This can't be possible IF ALL THOSE CLAINING CHRISTIANS AREN'T IN TOTAL AGREEMENT ON RULES AND PRINCIPLES! 1Corinthians 1:10
There is nothing like insult when you reminds a self acclaimed christian simple rules guiding the faith!
¤The Bible admonishes TRUE Christians not to allow the bloom of youth push them into marrying an unbeliever {1Corinthians 7:36} nitorious obviously missed out in this respect and got hooked to an atheist!
¤The Bible also admonishes females not to exercise any authority where males are disputing over doctrinal issues {1Timothy 2:12} in fact Apostle Paul made it clear that if any matter seems gloomy, female Christians should humbly ASK THEIR HUSBANDS AT HOME {1Corinthians 14:35} nitarious couldn't have done that due to the spiritual condition of her spouse who is not a Bible believer! 1Corinthians 7:39
¤The Bible admonishes Christians not to engage in bitter arguments {Philippians 2:14, Colossians 2:4,1Timothy 6:4,Titus 3:9} while i kept avoiding such, nitarious came in INSULTING devoted men {who have taken the pains and times to studying the Bible and deliberating on what God requires} she referred to them as ROBOTS { Ephesians 5:4} all because of what her atheist spouse who had NO regards for submission to divine guidance thought above believers!

Now where is the INSULT when a Bible student points out to her where she is lacking,since she claim submitting to the authority of God's word? Proverbs 27:17

Maximus69:

Now you've erased all what i've been thinking about you with this post!
Please Sir, i'm deeply sorry for all those lengthy discussion because it's now obvious that you don't know the difference between INSULT and REPROOF!
There is no perfection now until after Christ's 1,000 years reign. But Christians can lovingly reproof one another by pointing out where there is a lacking. 2Timothy 3:16-17,4:1-2
This can't be possible IF ALL THOSE CLAINING CHRISTIANS AREN'T IN TOTAL AGREEMENT ON RULES AND PRINCIPLES! 1Corinthians 1:10
There is nothing like insult when you reminds a self acclaimed christian simple rules guiding the faith!
¤The Bible admonishes TRUE Christians not to allow the bloom of youth push them into marrying an unbeliever {1Corinthians 7:36} nitorious obviously missed out in this respect and got hooked to an atheist!
¤The Bible also admonishes females not to exercise any authority where males are disputing over doctrinal issues {1Timothy 2:12} in fact Apostle Paul made it clear that if any matter seems gloomy, female Christians should humbly ASK THEIR HUSBANDS AT HOME {1Corinthians 14:35} nitarious couldn't have done that due to the spiritual condition of her spouse who is not a Bible believer! 1Corinthians 7:39
¤The Bible admonishes Christians not to engage in bitter arguments {Philippians 2:14, Colossians 2:4,1Timothy 6:4,Titus 3:9} while i kept avoiding such, nitarious came in INSULTING devoted men {who have taken the pains and times to studying the Bible and deliberating on what God requires} she referred to them as ROBOTS { Ephesians 5:4} all because of what her atheist spouse who had NO regards for submission to divine guidance thought above believers!

Now where is the INSULT when a Bible student points out to her where she is lacking,since she claim submitting to the authority of God's word? Proverbs 27:17

I only quoted the genesis of the problem!
After you pointed out her so called error,
What was your advice to her?

To divorce the husband and marry a JW?

Not a single advice from you except that she should keep her mouth shut when "holy men" are talking!

johnw47:


ha ha false jw jozz saying someone else is thoroughly confused

greatly confused know nothing false jw jozz

oh duh, Father God the Holy Spirit is one, not two gods like you polytheist false jw's believe in:
a almighty god the father and a mighty god jesus

go back and read the verses posted, oh typical sieve for a brain false jw

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Even nutarious that quoted it has ran . you are still babbling

Father and holy spirit are two different PERSONS according to Trinity.

So which of them is Jesus Father, Did he have two persons has Father ?

shadeyinka:

I only quoted the genesis of the problem!
After you pointed out her so called error,
What was your advice to her?

To divorce the husband and marry a JW?

Not a single advice from you except that she should keep her mouth shut when "holy men" are talking!

Now that's bad...

I guess someone owes someone an apology here...

shadeyinka:





Unlike you, I have never failed once to answer your questions or queries with scriptural backings who usually side-step Questions to speak irrelevancies.
All these are repetitions that had been dealt with: go to past threads if you will.

Children of perdition: Sons of Belial!
Get thee behind me Satan!

Yeah where you Lied and couldn't point what u mean by beast is a personality, where you conclude Jesus must have mistaken lake of fire for hell, since you know better than him . Where you went into comma and various lying stunts to explain how Body go to hell


It was the same past thread where you said the rich man has a Spiritual body, Your lying head forget Spiritual body occurs at Ressurection . when you were asked if ressurection has occurred , You went off again into silence.

Past threads indeed . Good you have shown your shallowness on this thread

shadeyinka:

I only quoted the genesis of the problem!
After you pointed out her so called error,
What was your advice to her?

To divorce the husband and marry a JW?

Not a single advice from you except that she should keep her mouth shut when "holy men" are talking!

ADVICE?
Well if a HUMBLE believer of righteousness erred in words or actions {Act 2:13} it is right to point out the errors {Act 2:14-36} and if the erring one ASKED for how to make amendments {Act 2:37} then it becomes a necessity to offer ADVICE or CORRECTION! Act 2:38
Note what the Jews who spoke abusively of the first century Christians did after hearing their flaws! This isn't about arguing on doctrines like you are trying to do here, but what they actually did to Jesus as in KILLING him! Peter point out their blunders and this people were cut to the hearts so that they asked 'men, brothers what should we do?'
Nitarious never realised her blunders and you aren't helping matters at all, because every Christian ought to bow to the admonition from the Bible NO MATTER WHAT! All you've been doing here is to argue on doctrines NOT pointing out any single admonition that's binding on all Bible believers!
And since you have concluded that there shouldn't be any central unit controlling God's organization globally, there is no way you're going to agree on terms and conditions binding all Bible believers.
What baffles me is when you now talk of religious groups as holding wrong doctrines when you don't even agree that there should be one line of thought!
Well if nitarious has repented of her past errors and humbly asked for the way out, i can't do that alone because she already agreed that Jesus is an important figure but her problem is IDENTIFYING those leading Jesus' followers.
If she agreed that Jesus as a leader has given the authority to supervise his earthly followers to a certain GROUP {Matthew 16:18-19} then she could be led to that GROUP { Act 9:27} who will now pray for her and after praying for direction from God's holy spirit, they will tell her what's the next thing to do! { Act 9:6}
All of these can't work if nitarious and you refute the logic of a central unit of control for all Bible believers, that is why we find it difficult to see you people as true Christians! Ephesians 4:5

Maximus69:
I never wanted to argue with shadeyinka from the onset, i found in his thread arguing about Islam and i felt 'this could be an interested person needing help! Act 18:24-26
He felt we're on the same page, quickly i told him there are prerequisites for becoming a true Christians, then i discovered he felt he is ok, so i tried to end the conversation but one alBHAGDADI cut in, insisting we talk further, i tried to make shadeyinka realised that it's of no need since we will never agree on sacred matters. But himself and the other guy kept saying 'JWs will run' So i set rules that will prevent our discussion from becoming exchange of insults due to certain inevitable difference!
The other guy couldn't cope as he's fund of insulting, abusing and cursing people whose believes differs or contradicts his own, leaving shadeyinka and i to discuss on doctrines FRIENDLY!
Now with the way we've made enough presentations, observers could clearly see who is exhibiting the fruitage of God's spirit and the one having the loosed spirit of the world!
By the end shadeyinka could say to me,
YOU ARE A PRETENDER!
YOU ARE NOT PIOUS!
YOUR ORGANIZATON WILL TAKE YOU TO LAKE OF FIRE!
YOUR ORGANIZATION IS A CULT!
And so on!

Jesus Christ!!!..

"You Saw Shadeyinka needed Help"? Really?

Maximus69:
I never wanted to argue with shadeyinka from the onset, i found in his thread arguing about Islam and i felt 'this could be an interested person needing help! Act 18:24-26
He felt we're on the same page, quickly i told him there are prerequisites for becoming a true Christians, then i discovered he felt he is ok, so i tried to end the conversation but one alBHAGDADI cut in, insisting we talk further, i tried to make shadeyinka realised that it's of no need since we will never agree on sacred matters. But himself and the other guy kept saying 'JWs will run' So i set rules that will prevent our discussion from becoming exchange of insults due to certain inevitable difference!
The other guy couldn't cope as he's fund of insulting, abusing and cursing people whose believes differs or contradicts his own, leaving shadeyinka and i to discuss on doctrines FRIENDLY!
Now with the way we've made enough presentations, observers could clearly see who is exhibiting the fruitage of God's spirit and the one having the loosed spirit of the world!
By the end shadeyinka could say to me,
YOU ARE A PRETENDER!
YOU ARE NOT PIOUS!
YOUR ORGANIZATON WILL TAKE YOU TO LAKE OF FIRE!
YOUR ORGANIZATION IS A CULT!
And so on!

Am already planning to do another Master in Psychology, I wonder how people get convinced of something. Either False or Right. The mind is powerful, have seen you post scripts of by their Fruit you shall Know them, and waiting to see that fruit in you.

The First thing I look for in dealing with person is Witchcraft, manipulative mind, and anytime I meet such minds they become a study for me.

The Greatest gift Lucifer has is witch craft, obvious when he fell, manipulation.


The Holy Spirit on the other hand won't manipulate, if you find yourself manipulating others, the fist sign you should note is, this is a Fallen nature in Man.


Bro! With this your nature, you won't even get close to knowing anything other than the Logos as explained by Your group. Have seen you use this tool and have studied you on different groups, when situation changes against you, you switch easily into it.

Like you lieing I married an Atheist, and also in various discussions trying to manipulate informations out. It's a great gift under the fallen nature but never in Christ Jesus.

1 Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.


Galatians 5:19-20 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lascivious
Idolatry,

witchcraft,

hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

Notice, its naturally in a Fallen Man. You are manipulative and that's not a Fruit of the Spirit




Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.




You can't quote scriptures the way you like on social platforms like this, this is worldwide.

Many won't even comment and such have much intimacy with God experiencially that might be beyond your reasoning capacity.


Stop Quoting Logos just to make a statement, you have posted by their Fruit you shall know them like over 15th time and you have not lived up with one.


2 Corinthians 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Janosky:



I have AVOIDED nothing, but you still resort to bring up Heb 1:10.
As usual the holy Scriptures will speak for itself....
**"* Heb1:10 is a repetition /quote of Psalms 102:25-27.
Let's begin from v24...
" So I said: do not take me ,away oh my God, in the midst of my days,your years go on through all generations.
v25 " In the beginning you laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the works of your hand......"
The Psalms 102:25-27 & Heb 1:10-13 is a reference to Jehovah, the God of David and Father of Jesus.
In Matt 11:25 Jesus calls his Father "Lord of heaven and earth", further proof that Heb 1:10-13 refers to 'Jehovah.

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You said it's a continuation of the psalm, can you explain that. We know who wrote Psalm, but Hebrew is still a contention, let's assume Paul is one of the writers of Hebrews, link the two scripture lemme understand.


In Hebrew is one of the Few places where the interaction was between two Lords, and each calling the Other Lord.

My Question was, how come Jehovah called His son who you said was created like Micheal Lord.?

Janosky:

Nutarious, when you "Call God your own Father", do you mean you are "making yourself equal with God"?

*** For once, be honest to yourself & answer the question above...***

I have AVOIDED nothing, but you still resort to bring up Heb 1:10.
As usual the holy Scriptures will speak for itself....
**"* Heb1:10 is a repetition /quote of Psalms 102:25-27.
Let's begin from v24...
" So I said: do not take me ,away oh my God, in the midst of my days,your years go on through all generations.
v25 " In the beginning you laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the works of your hand......"
The Psalms 102:25-27 & Heb 1:10-13 is a reference to Jehovah, the God of David and Father of Jesus.
In Matt 11:25 Jesus calls his Father "Lord of heaven and earth", further proof that Heb 1:10-13 refers to 'Jehovah.

*** Proverbs 8:22,27,29
" Lord Jehovah created me at the beginning of creation..."vs22

vs27 "I was there when He set the heavens in place..."

**vs29 " ...and when He marked out the foundation of the earth"

Jesus, the wisdom of God (1Cor1:24. Rev3:14) has revealed the truth.

Nutarious, you are either for the truth or against the truth.
Just make your choice.
Shalom.

I first asked in regards paternity, I know my Dad, I was in his loins when he married my mum and gave birth to me. FATHERHOOD has deep meaning and Jehovah been my Father will be Hard for you to comprehend as we don't share same faith.

But I can trace from the seed who my Dad naturally is first.

So I asked let's trace who Was Jesus father by seed. We found Holy Spirit as the Father of Jesus. If Jesus said Father, his reality and my are different naturally.

For He is the only Human Existence with a seed that's mysterious, the other is Adam who wasn't even given birth to.


When I call God my Father and when Jesus call his Father we must not relate the two because its not same thing.

I hope God makes you understand.

Now how come his Father speaking to His Son called him Lord. Knowing in Ancient times of writing this inspired book, Lordship means alot.

It's only Jesus that actually knows the Father and he said So and that's where am coming from