Monaco2:
A lot of women are reliving their own memories of sexual abuse today in Nigeria..... memories buried deep will be resurfacing

laudate:


You are the one that should use your brain. Did she say at any point, that she invited him to come and sleep with her inside her house, or anywhere? Did she give him express permission to do so? Let us hope the next post below, will answer your questions.

Elvis778:
she still didn't mention how he threatened her,
or did she?

There was no threat, violence or force,
why do you den term rape?

May i remind you that the word "SEDUCTION" means luring someone until he/she gives u his/her consent, which can be verbally, quietly, emotionally or physically (by playing along)

this is the only reasonable thing one can picture from that story,
it's a case of seduction not Rape,


if it's rape, then she should go ahead and sue him, that's how it's done in civilised countries.
For the fact she's yet to do so,
then i see no reason why you shud term the man a criminal.

Ofcourse having sex is not a criminal offence

Elvis778:
"some will paralyze, faint, cry, or fight back"

so which of these did she do??

See ennn,
am not saying what the pastor did was right,
but like she reported in her story,
the pastor didn't apply force or threat or even violence, and she still froze??
he simply had his way, quietly.
Who does that?
Unless she was born without reflex arc (which is not possible)

if she said the man pointed a gun at her or threatened her not to shout or speak or even hushed her and she froze,
that will be alot more easier to believe.
But the man only said "be happy a man of God is doing this to you" and she froze?
Lol,
i know we humans got emotions but, i won't let my emotions judge a case for me.

Most victims will freeze, if only briefly. Some will fight back, effectively. Some will resist in habitual, passive ways. Some will suddenly give in and cry. Others will become paralyzed, become faint, pass out or dissociate.

ayodaisi:
Who among you without sin should throw the first stone

laudate:


Yes, I said too many sexual controversies sorround the man. But did I say sexual controversy equals a crime? Must you lie to make a point?

I repeat: he did not deny knowing Busola Dakolo his accuser. He did not deny having sexual contact with her. He did not deny participating in any of the encounters she claims they had.

If he truly wanted to clear his name, he would have taken each of the allegations levelled against him, and addressed it clearly by laying out facts, to show how it could not have happened.

When Neymar was accused of something similar recently, what did he do? He laid out the facts and defended himself, and his accusers retreated and shut up. Did the same guy you are defending now, do do? No! So what are you going on about?

lexy2014:

If u are talking about "sexual controversies", then u must b able establish how "sexual controversies" constitutes a criminal offence.

laudate:

I repeat: he did not deny knowing Busola Dakolo his accuser. He did not deny having sexual contact with her. He did not deny participating in any of the encounters she claims they had.

laudate:


Didn't she say she was in shock? Couldnt this have caused her temporary paralysis or inability to defend herself? All this your grammar just because you want to defend a man, who has refused to defend himself? If the same thing happened to your younger sister or wife, would you be here giving this same fake excuses?

Listen to the psychologist again.



Did the lady do any of these? Yes....she was passive.

lexy2014:
Oga don't get emotional. Pls read what I wrote here:

D English I used is very unambiguous. So I c were u c d lies u are talking about.

This is an excerpt from fatoyinbos statement.

“As an individual and as a church, we love and support people, we will never condone any form of rape, harassment, or intimidation of anybody. I have never in my life raped anybody even as an unbeliever and I am absolutely innocent of this.

“Busola Dakolo, who has made this false allegation and her family, attended the church during the early start of the church in Ilorin in 1999. I never had any private interactions with her beyond my pastoral duties.”

Pls compare d above with wgat u said

From d excerpts, is that a denial or are u using a different dictionary from d rest of d world? Or u probably didn't even read d statement in d first place?

Which one are accusing him of? Are u accusing him of not denying or u are accusing him of not laying out d facts? U seem 2b allover d place

Elvis778:

Well i see my effort to EDUCATE you on the difference between rape and seduction is like pouring water on a hen.
Like ave always said, am against the man, what he did is morally wrong.
But then he didn't RAPE her, just understand the difference,
he pushed her on the couch and played some games on her that she couldn't resist, then had his way, this is simply SEDUCTION (persuading someone to have sex with you)

If he threatened her or resorted to using violence, or maybe she even asked or begged him to stop,
or even tried to struggle, or even asked him why his doing this, or even try to run,
remember it's in her own house? Psychologically she has the upper hand to defend her self,
you can't tell me she was so shocked that she couldn't do a thing in her own father's house??
Common, that's too lame,

since she said he came in and made her feel weak that she just let him have his way without resistance, then it's simply SEDUCTION.

laudate:

Oga, try to call a spade, a spade. Unless you have witnessed a rape before, you cannot say all rape victims will fight back in the heat of the moment. Human beings react differently. So please stop defending the indefensible.

Even a psychologist has confirmed that not everybody will be in a state of mind to fight back. And yes, a person can be raped under their own roof. Haven't you heard of girls being raped in their own family house, by male relatives before?

Elvis778:
ofcourse not everybody,
depending on the condition,
if your brain knows quite alright that Nothing will save you from the situation (e.g, rape at gun point) you won't make a move at all, your reflex will fail you.
But when your mind is very sure that you can escape (in your own house oo) you have the might,
your reflex will work perfectly well then, don't deny this fact please.

I have nothing else to say to you,
but i urge u to try and read her story again with you right frame of mind and not with your emotions leading the way.

You'll understand it's SEDUCTION and not RAPE.
Thanks

laudate:


He said he has never raped, even as an unbeliever. But he never said he has never coerced a girl into sleeping with him outside his marriage. Having sex with a girl without her consent, is still classified as rape.

He said "I never had any private interactions with her beyond my pastoral duties.” Really?? So all the encounters the girl said took place, were a figment of her imagination? Why didn't he pick each one, and address it? Did his pastoral duties include the carnal contact, they had? He needs to define what he means by pastoral duties, o.

Finally, you have only quoted the part where I said the pastor is sorrounded by sexual controversies. You have still not provided evidence to show where my post expressly stated that 'sexual controversies is a crime' like you alleged.

laudate:

But he never said he has never coerced a girl into sleeping with him outside his marriage. Having sex with a girl without her consent, is still classified as rape.

laudate:

He said "I never had any private interactions with her beyond my pastoral duties.” Really?? So all the encounters the girl said took place, were a figment of her imagination? Why didn't he pick each one, and address it? [/i] o.

laudate:

Finally, you have only quoted the part where I said the pastor is sorrounded by sexual controversies. You have still not provided evidence to show where my post expressly stated that 'sexual controversies is a crime' like you alleged.

lexy2014:

If u are talking about "sexual controversies", then u must b able establish how "sexual controversies" constitutes a criminal offence.

Hoodbilonia:
Abegi
90 percent of women in naija church
Sleep around. They fuckkk dem selves
Af seen enuf
Fem pentecostal,catholic,name it
Dont be fooled we are all going to hell
Hupocrites
Acting like they dont do shiiit on a daily
Foolish women
Bich

I aint no rapist
Women are loose
A girl i met stripped naked on 2nd day we bleeped hard for 7months.
She later blackmailed me and stole my phone
A fine sweet married woman open for me but fear did not let me insert that day. Incant forget that evening.my God.since then i cant put my eggs in one basket for naija women. Even your wife aint safe.
Timi dakolo never kolo yet
Abegi

laudate:

Were you inside her mind, to know what her mind was thinking at that point?? Or are you in charge of her reflexes to know if it would work in that situation?

It is NOT seduction, because she did NOT give her consent, before he had sexual contact with her. Why do you find that so difficult to understand?? Once a woman witholds her consent to sex, and the man still goes ahead, it becomes rape. Let him try this abroad, and see if he would not be accused of rape.

clemzo101:
so you are saying a pastor can be going about sleeping with ladies just like any other person?

lexy2014:
First of all, u said d man didn't deny. So what u are quoting is it a denial? Yes or No? Obviously, u were just ranting when u hadn't even read d guys statement.

U said he didn't deny raping busola. Now u have read d denial. So which other girl is he supposed to admit sleeping with outside his marriage? I asked u earlier, are u sure u are using d same dictionary like d rest of d world? U seem 2b allover d place with ur points.

When a person says pastoral duties, does it include rape? U amaze me cos u don't even seem 2 have a grasp of simple words.

U sound as if u were there or that u were a witness. D same way busola has a right to accuse, is d same way fatoyinbo has a right to deny d accusations & defend himself which he has done. U weren't a witness to d event. So y do u now expect him 2 accept d accusations?

Is there anywhere I said u said that "sexual controversies" is a crime? Can u pls produce d comment?
I didn't no English was a difficult language to comprehend. Oga pls read my comment below again & compare it with what u wrote above

Elvis778:
remind me where she said she withheld her consent,
cuz i didn't see any,
he only pushed her to the couch and had his way,
and she was too shocked in her own house to even struggle,
what a lie,
simply tell the world you both had a sexual affair and we will understand that you were young with rushing hormones that a single touch made you loose it.

Not telling us that u were rapped,
simply to gain public sympathy.
What a society.

laudate:


Oh, remind me where she gave her express permission or consent, to having sex with the man, because I cannot see it.

Some of you are so bent on defending wrong doing and vice, that even if virtue came and knocked on your door, you will not open it.

Even a psychologist has clarified how the human body reacts in such a situation, yet you are still arguing because you want to justify the man's disgusting actions. Na wah o!

lexy2014:


I didn't say rape isn't a crime. I asked u has she done d needful by initiating legal proceedings against him? Or is d police going to come to arrest d man in his house just based on social media frenzy? I also asked u, who else has accused him of rape? U couldn't answer

Celebrityblog:


Source: http://www.thefamousnaija.com/2019/06/coza-pastor-biodun-fatoyinbo-in-mouth.html?m=1

laudate:

Obviously, English is a difficult language for you to comprehend otherwise you would not continue defending a pastor who cannot defend himself.

He has not denied all the sexual encounters that Busola claimed they had. He has not denied going to her house. His excuse is to claim he did not go beyond "pastoral duties," with her. Really??

Let him address each of the issues, the lady brought up, in clear terms like Neymar did.

As for which other girl he had sexual relations with, please check the internet. Google is your friend.

laudate:

He has not denied all the sexual encounters that Busola claimed they had. He has not denied going to her house. His excuse is to claim he did not go beyond "pastoral duties," with her. Really??

laudate:

You sound as if you were there, when the pastor was crafting his denial. Or you were there, when he was meeting with Busola.

laudate:

As for which other girl he had sexual relations with, please check the internet. Google is your friend.

laudate:

Let him address each of the issues, the lady brought up, in clear terms like Neymar did in his own case.

Mk12:
I don't like this media trial.
not saying he is innocent but all we have now is their words against his words. no real evidence.
they should take him to court for rape so we can get all the evidence we need

lexy2014:
What has my defending d pastor got 2do with comprehending English language? you c why I said u are all over d place with ur emotions? I can't believe a person who said he comprehends English language just said that.

Pls read d following & tell me what it means, especially d last sentence. I believe it is comprehensive enough:

"I have never in my life raped anybody even as an unbeliever and I am absolutely innocent of this."

I wasn't there with him my dear same way u werent with busola. Its d same way every other Nigerian got access to d guys statement that I got it, from d news. Like I said earlier u were just ranting all d while without even reading d statement. There are always two sides 2a story& both individuals have told their sides 2d story. So I don't c y u are so emotional about d whole issue.

Is Google not ur friend? Is Google ur enemy? Y should I check Google when I have u? At least u said he is "surrounded by sexual controversies". That means u must no d stories behind those controversies.

When u keep bringing up this neymar issue, u just confirming what I said about comprehending English language. In d case of fatoyinbo, he denied ever having sexual relations with busola & also denied raping her.

Neymar didn't deny having sexual relations with his accuser but denied raping her. To prove his point, he showed WhatsApp exchanges& nude pictures willingly sent to him by his accuser.

Except u are telling me there were WhatsApp exchanges between fatoyinbo & busola in which busola sent d pastor her nude pix, then that puts d rape theory in d trash.

bigiyaro:
why ask me? why don't you ask her? she came out to say a man raped her and if she decides to press charges, am sure you will know. on ur second question, u shouldn't be asking me stupid questions, i just said so many women are coming out to reveal their inappropriate sexual encounter with the pastor, and as far as am concerned, a pastor is not supposed to be embarrassed with all these type of drama if he was not a fvcking womanizer in the first place.

bigiyaro:
i just said so many women are coming out to reveal their inappropriate sexual encounter with the pastor

Bossontop:

Jus came here to read comments

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lexy2014:


Y shouldn't I ask u? Y should I ask her? I thought u said earlier that d pastor will pay for what he did? How's he going to pay? U said what was sown will b reaped. Its not busola that said that. Its u. So y should I ask busola. If u can't defend a claim, then don't make it.

In d end u have already shot urself in d foot with this:



So how many of these are rape related accusations? Did these woman u are referring have consensual sex with him? Are we talking about rape or whether d guy is a womaniser? What are we talking about? If he is a womaniser, what law has he broken?

laudate:


You are one of those who would defend wrong doing and vice, even if virtue came knocking on their door.

The way you are defending the man's flimsy excuses, shows you are either on his payroll or a member of his congregation.

He denied raping any woman. He claimed he only offered "pastoral duties" to Busola. Duties, you know nothing about. Obviously, those pastoral duties must have included carnal knowledge and coercion of unsuspecting woman, into sexual acts.

And you are here waving a flag on his behalf, carrying out a crusade for him and absolving him of any wrong doing. Wow!

I repeat: his excuses do not hold water. The girl has made specific allegations against him citing locations, timelines and situations. The man has not yet addressed any of those encounters directly.

With the level of detail provided by the girl, his so-called defence is nothing more than a bunch of pathetic excuses. End of story.

You are free to write another long epistle, with multiple chapters, to defend him.

laudate:

The way you are defending the man's flimsy excuses, shows you are either on his payroll or a member of his congregation.

bigiyaro:
abeg no take Panadol for another person headache, if the so called pastor truely raped the woman, karma will surely catch up with him, if not, God will vindicate him. That is all there is to this matter. One thing is clear here, the pastor is a womanizer, and it is a sin (crime) in christaindom. Abeg carry ur cut n join law practice go another Conner.

lexy2014:


U are so funny. Y are u getting offended& spilling ur emotions? If am taking panadol for another persons headache, which one have u been taking? Abi all d grammar u have speaking since does d topic of discussion concern u in any way? C pot calling kettle black.