Does Ifa support or condemn idol worshiping?

This is an important question needing knowledgeable answer.

Kindly shed more light on this

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Very interesting question

Oshin56:
Very interesting question

Any prior knowledge on the subject?

bilms:


Any prior knowledge on the subject?

we are waiting for people like you to shield more light to it

Lol

It depends on what you mean by idol worshipping
The 2 leading religions makes us believed that if you don't belong to either of the religion, you are automatic an idol worshippers.
IFA is a religion and ways of life of a particular race and it's an intermediary between mankind and OLODUMARE.

aremuforlife:
It depends on what you mean by idol worshipping
The 2 leading religions makes us believed that if you don't belong to either of the religion, you are automatic an idol worshippers.
IFA is a religion and ways of life of a particular race and it's an intermediary between mankind and OLODUMARE.

Please do not bring any other religion into this discuss. This is strictly about ifa.

Secondly, whatever your definition of idol worshiping is, does ifa support or condemn idol worshiping?

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Please do not bring any other religion into this discuss. This is strictly about ifa.

Secondly, whatever your definition of idol worshiping is, does ifa support or condemn idol worshiping?

I'm not trying to bring any other religions here but only references to the religion that makes our religion to look like idol worshipping.
IFA does not support idol worshipping because it emphasises much on OLODUMARE.
Though there other gods like the "ORISA".
The orisa are not worshipped, they are only been appeased.

Below is a comment from Celestial777 made in another similar thread.


"Ifa loba
Orisa losin
Eledumare nikan lo to gbe okan Le

Odu irete
Ifa condemn idol worshiping
Ori ni a ba bo..a ba fi Orisa sile...ijo
Ti ori ngbeni nibo ni Orisa wa


Let's now talk about Orisa
What is an Orisa? Orisa is someone great that has live on earth before.
Awon ti ori sa so to
That is why you get the term orisa
Is like using the name of baba Oyedepo to pray
Like God of Oyedepo
So Orisa is a medium to get to Eledumare Agotun
Like in Catholic each profession has its own patron saint.
E.g saint Peter patron of fishermen
Saint Thomas Aquinos patron of sailors
So Saint Ogun is Patron of blacksmith and welders

Eledumare only is to be worshipped....the means is now left with you.
I chose to go through Christ for a reason cos
The story of creation said Eledumare and His only son word (oro) were the only one present when the world was about to be created.
Eji ogbe say so
And my Bible said the same
2. Secondly it is only Jesus that knows what happens when we die ..i mean after life
The Prophet Mohammed s.a.w
Said he dont know what will happen to him at death but Sheikh Ali and the rest should always pray for him...
3. Ifa said the good Priest and all those that venerated there Ifa well well while on earth will have surplus to eat at imere
That is why when a babalawo want to give kudos to his late boss he will say ...ki awo ire ma je ni imere
4.Jesus said in my Father's house there are many mansion there if no be so i will not say so

Listen that never mean I condemn any religion cos I know there are predestined Muslim and predestined ifa priest as well.
Well to me i know they will make heaven..very sure cos they are predestined.
Someone said what about Orumila
Baba is just a witness when humans are choosing destiny
Eleri ipin.....means witness to Destiny"

I need someone who can give us an extensive explanation on the sunject

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExKGqmnRfuM


watch from 13.00

bluke:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExKGqmnRfuM


watch from 13.00

Thank you. May her soul rest in peace.

I have been looking for her books but couldn't find it.

IFA'S TAKE ON IDOL WORSHIPING

Ao le be igi ni igbo
We can't cut a tree from the forest

Ko wa di olowo eni
And it becomes our commander

Orere ko le ni iyi to eni to gbe
A craft can't be more prestigious than the crafter

Oni oju
It has eyes

Ko le ri iran
But it can't see

Oni ese
It has legs

Ko le sare
But can't run

Ifa loba
Ifa is the overseer

Orisa losin
The gifted are the messenger

Olodumare ni kan lo to gbekele
Only the creator can be relied upon

Ori ni a ba ma bo
We should rather worship the maker

A ba fi Orisa sile
And leave the gifted people

Ni ijo Ti ori ngbeni
While the creator is aiding us

Nibo ni Orisa wa
Where are the gifted one's?

Can someone please translate the Yoruba into a more appropriate and acceptable English language?

So, how come people started worshipping the Orisha. How can I get my hands on the Ifa Odus

Orisa are not worshipped
Orisa cannot be worshipped
Orisa are merely gifted people
Who were blessed with some unique skills
They are heroes and heroines of that time
That's why they called them orisa
Ori sa (the selected)
Literally,
Ori means head
Sa means selected
Orisa means someone selected by his head
Ori in Yoruba philosophy is used for eleda, the maker
So, orisa simply means the one selected by the maker

In other words, orisa are messengers
Through which people believe they can pass message to God
That's why we have many Orisa's, each with his own gift

Opiletool:
Below is a comment from Celestial777 made in another similar thread.


"Ifa loba
Orisa losin
Eledumare nikan lo to gbe okan Le

Odu irete
Ifa condemn idol worshiping
Ori ni a ba bo..a ba fi Orisa sile...ijo
Ti ori ngbeni nibo ni Orisa wa


Let's now talk about Orisa
What is an Orisa? Orisa is someone great that has live on earth before.
Awon ti ori sa so to
That is why you get the term orisa
Is like using the name of baba Oyedepo to pray
Like God of Oyedepo
So Orisa is a medium to get to Eledumare Agotun
Like in Catholic each profession has its own patron saint.
E.g saint Peter patron of fishermen
Saint Thomas Aquinos patron of sailors
So Saint Ogun is Patron of blacksmith and welders

Eledumare only is to be worshipped....the means is now left with you.
I chose to go through Christ for a reason cos
The story of creation said Eledumare and His only son word (oro) were the only one present when the world was about to be created.
Eji ogbe say so
And my Bible said the same
2. Secondly it is only Jesus that knows what happens when we die ..i mean after life
The Prophet Mohammed s.a.w
Said he dont know what will happen to him at death but Sheikh Ali and the rest should always pray for him...
3. Ifa said the good Priest and all those that venerated there Ifa well well while on earth will have surplus to eat at imere
That is why when a babalawo want to give kudos to his late boss he will say ...ki awo ire ma je ni imere
4.Jesus said in my Father's house there are many mansion there if no be so i will not say so

Listen that never mean I condemn any religion cos I know there are predestined Muslim and predestined ifa priest as well.
Well to me i know they will make heaven..very sure cos they are predestined.
Someone said what about Orumila
Baba is just a witness when humans are choosing destiny
Eleri ipin.....means witness to Destiny"

Be deceiving yourself. There is no babaláwo I know who can confirm the existence of any Ese Ifá saying anything like Olódùmarè having a son, much less one named ọrọ (word). Eji ogbe is too popular for this to be ignored by many if such Ese Ifá existed
Clever way to try to link ifá to John 1:1

bilms:

IFA'S TAKE ON IDOL WORSHIPING

Ao le be igi ni igbo
We can't cut a tree from the forest

Ko wa di olowo eni
And it becomes our commander

Orere ko le ni iyi to eni to gbe
A craft can't be more prestigious than the crafter

Oni oju
It has eyes

Ko le ri iran
But it can't see

Oni ese
It has legs

Ko le sare
But can't run

Ifa loba
Ifa is the overseer king

Orisa losin
The gifted are the messenger
[
Olodumare ni kan lo to gbekele
Only the creator can be relied upon

Ori ni a ba ma bo
We should rather worship the maker

A ba fi Orisa sile
And leave the gifted people

Ni ijo Ti ori ngbeni
While the creator is aiding us

Nibo ni Orisa wa
Where are the gifted one's?

Can someone please translate the Yoruba into a more appropriate and acceptable English language?

I have always known the saying to be "ifá loba, Orunmila losin" = Ifá is king, Orunmila is Supreme

I hope you realize that Ori (Eleda:the creator) is different from Olodumare?

bilms:
Does Ifa support or condemn idol worshiping?

This is an important question needing knowledgeable answer.

Kindly shed more light on this

Does Christianity support idol worship? If your answer is no, then I don't see how Ifá supports idol worship

macof:


Be deceiving yourself. There is no babaláwo I know who can confirm the existence of any Ese Ifá saying anything like Olódùmarè having a son, much less one named ọrọ (word). Eji ogbe is too popular for this to be ignored by many if such Ese Ifá existed
Clever way to try to link ifá to John 1:1

Bros, did you read my first sentence or you skipped it?

Opiletool:


Bros, did you read my first sentence or you skipped it?

I believe reposting it means you approve of its message

macof:

I believe reposting it means you approve of its message

Then your conclusion is erroneous. I simply pasted what seemed like a response to the question the OP seeks answers to.

macof:


Be deceiving yourself. There is no babaláwo I know who can confirm the existence of any Ese Ifá saying anything like Olódùmarè having a son, much less one named ọrọ (word). Eji ogbe is too popular for this to be ignored by many if such Ese Ifá existed
Clever way to try to link ifá to John 1:1

You be didirin.... I mean real mugu
I am a Christian and a good one.
Do you think there is one person that knows all the ifa corpus
I made that remark bc I know its true.
Listen you can choose to believe or not
Na you sabi...
Professor Sophie Oluwole (late)
Have lecture on that at Felabration and on another personal interview
You can look her up on you tube
While you are thinking about if you will lolook ol her up or not you are a he goat
After you have looked her up and confirm that it's true you will become human again.

Celestial777:




You be didirin.... I mean real mugu
I am a Christian and a good one.
Do you think there is one person that knows all the ifa corpus
I made that remark bc I know its true.
Listen you can choose to believe or not
Na you sabi...
Professor Sophie Oluwole (late)
Have lecture on that at Felabration and on another personal interview
You can look her up on you tube
While you are thinking about if you will lolook ol her up or not you are a he goat
After you have looked her up and confirm that it's true you will become human again.

You being a Christian already doesn't put you in a descent position to talk about ifá

Can you share the YouTube video where she said Olódùmarè had only one son called ọrọ (the word)?
I would like to scrutinize the information myself and maybe learn some more Ese ifá I don't know
And I believe it is only wise to provide your source

And can you stop trying to insult your better?

Opiletool:

Then your conclusion is erroneous. I simply pasted what seemed like a response to the question the OP seeks answers to.

Indeed your explanation does confirm my conclusion was wrong. Sorry

Good thing the original poster is here

macof:


Indeed your explanation does confirm my conclusion was wrong. Sorry

Good thing the original poster is here

It's OK sir!

macof:

You being a Christian already doesn't put you in a descent position to talk about ifá

Can you share the YouTube video where she said Olódùmarè had only one son called ọrọ (the word)?
I would like to scrutinize the information myself and maybe learn some more Ese ifá I don't know
And I believe it is only wise to provide your source

And can you stop trying to insult your better?

Share ko. Share ni
Wetin be my own if you remain ignorant
See I read Ifa corpus book by Rev Fagbola
Written in 1825
You can look it up
Better still I fit help you send the cover page
...i mean the pics so you will know I know wbay I am saying

Celestial777:





Share ko. Share ni
Wetin be my own if you remain ignorant
See I read Ifa corpus book by Rev Fagbola
Written in 1825
You can look it up
Better still I fit help you send the cover page
...i mean the pics so you will know I know wbay I am saying

Don't be harsh on people asking you question. You may die tomorrow and take it with you.

Pls help push this post to the front page