darkelf:


He stayed on the bench for the majority of last season, yet he was invited. One of Rohr's mistakes. Hope he learns from this too

They said he was our best defender when i told them

But balogun didnt do badly sha, forget the error

EEGA:
Idowu is poor offensively.

Idowu isn't an upgrade on any player in the team currently. Even as a full back, he is comparable to Shehu. I don't see what he offers this tram that others don't do better.

somehow:


And you have seen how many people on this thread wants them dropped at these ages yet you want Balogun at 33 in the Nations cup /world cup.

Mikael and Ogu played regularly in their various clubs before the AFCON.
Selective justice huh?

We have players performing well than them thats why

If mikel was impressive in his first game i think he would have played all the games

If balogun is playing well not bench oo then he can be there, if brazil can be taking 34 33 years old to tournament then who are we? you think brazil doesnt have younger players?

I will take an epl or laliga stater who is 34 years old than a turkey league player who is 23 years old

No be daniel alves just win copa america as first choice right back age 36?

forgiveness:



The same mistake he made against Argentina. It was obvious we needed reinforcement in the mildfield but Rohr was adamant to substitute any of the trio.. Mikel, Ndidi and Etebo whom he had only used in all the matches he played.

The same senerio played out.

Same scenario, absolutely!
I was fuming where I was.
I was so annoyed.

Ndidi and Etebo are too similar to play together

One has to be sacrificed for a creative midfielder

BascoVanVeli:
In hindsight somebody should have been at that post.

That was the keeper's side

forgiveness:



If Isaac Success was on the wing yesterday, he will perform better because he can work in tight space.

Besides, you are very funny. Taiwo Awoniyi who has been tested in a better league should prove himself in the U23 first but Odey and Okereke who are yet to impress in the same league Taiwo Awoniyi already impressed should be rated highly. Ummmm!

What kind of bias scale of measurement is this?

Why the question mark on Olanrewaju Kayode? Is the name the problem or his record?

Who is our deputy LB behind Collins?

Isaac Success that has the first touch of an elephant

As for the rest...

forgiveness:



That's if he still remains the coach. He should be gone by now.

I may change my mind if he's ready to bring in mildfielders into the team and if NFF will sack all those Nigerian assistant coaches and replace them with foreign technical advisers and foreign goalkeeper trainer.

We desperately need a foreign goalkeeper trainer

TheGoodJoe:


As I said before, it has to do with time and instilling the principles. You can write now we do not have a conductor but it is because we do not play that way for a while.

In reconstructing the team to play in such fashion, it will take teaching the team how to play with the tactics and thus utilising some players to play those roles.

A good example is Mikel, who I tell people is the best in dictating the game when the team plays in a possessive fashion.

Unfortunately, Mikel from his time at Chelsea and some era's of the Super Eagles Mikel did not play that role and many will feel we have a player who lacks that ability.

In recent years, we have stuck with Ighalo who does not press with intensity, while players like Osimhen, Iheanacho to an extent and Kayode can bring that to help us defend from the front.

So it is not about Rohr grooming one. It is that Rohr can not coach the system to pick the players to suit the system.

I think I get you now and even agree.
But, if it is Amunike you think that'd [be allowed to] bring this I say wake up quickly

Earthquake2:
Ndidi and Etebo are too similar to play together

One has to be sacrificed for a creative midfielder

Very simple sturvs

Anyway, there's one more game in this afcon

forgiveness:


Idowu is better than Collins based on what I have seen. He offers both offensive and defensive play to his game unlike Collins who is only defensive.

Aina should be allowed to play in his natural position. Ebuehi should slog it out with him.

Odubanjo can be tried too.

Bro If Idowu improve,he can be recall.Truly he is offensive but his decision making at the final third us terrible..whenever this guy crosses,be sure the ball will landed at Aso rock. Collins may also be offensive perhaps he was playing to instruction.

forgiveness:


Idowu is better than Collins based on what I have seen. He offers both offensive and defensive play to his game unlike Collins who is only defensive.

Aina should be allowed to play in his natural position. Ebuehi should slog it out with him.

Odubanjo can be tried too.

Bro If Idowu improve,he can be recall.Truly he is offensive but his decision making at the final third is terrible at times..whenever this guy cross,be sure the ball will land at Aso rock. Collins may also be offensive perhaps he was playing to instruction.

Lets start grooming Jonathan zacalla and maduka okoye gradually into the super eagles ooo... Jus so sad no current standing keeper to mentor them.. missing enyama, ikeme and even ejide.. diz kids would av understudied dem in d long run.. shey na akpeyi, ezenwa or uzoho dem wan understudy?

mostob:

Bro If Idowu improve,he can be recall.Truly he is offensive but his decision making at the final third is terrible at times..whenever this guy cross,be sure the ball will land at Aso rock. Collins may also be offensive perhaps he was playing to instruction.

If he can't cross, then he is not "offensive"

If he can't make the right decisions, then he isn't "offensive"

"Offensive" and "Bryan Idowu" shouldn't be used in the same sentence until he improves.

Bro, in this tournament so far, all the CBs performed better than him.

I wouldn't want a 33/34 years old defender in the world cup/nations cup when we have scores of young defenders that are willing to be groomed before then. We are spoilt for choices there bro. Balogun to me can't become better at that age.he's no goalkeeper.

Maybe Brazil just do not have better defenders, hence the reason they are still sticking to these names (Names that are still playing top football in top clubs compared to Brighton and Hovens. Some of our young legs are playing in better clubs that needs invitation!

andrew444:


We have players performing well than them thats why

If mikel was impressive in his first game i think he would have played all the games

If balogun is playing well not bench oo then he can be there, if brazil can be taking 34 33 years old to tournament then who are we? you think brazil doesnt have younger players?

I will take an epl or laliga stater who is 34 years old than a turkey league player who is 23 years old

No be daniel alves just win copa america as first choice right back age 36?

Paint it however u want, to me, both offensively and otherwise, Jamil Collins is crap.

Shehu is not in form. Aina showed his form as a LB (not his natural position). in fact, we no get better midfielder for that bench.

BascoVanVeli:


Shehu who has played as RB could also come in in his more natural midfield position is the point he was making.

hahaha

darkelf:


Joebie FC

Cries still going on here ?

there were other moments in that game Balogun didn't look convincing even after the error. I think lack of game tin in his clubside affected him

andrew444:


They said he was our best defender when i told them

But balogun didnt do badly sha, forget the error

Rohr was too scared to try 3-5-2 all tourney. We may not have gone far but we would have been better offensively in that set up.

Odunayaw:
If we had actually wingbacks playing yesterday that'd have eased our middle.

Earthquake2:
Ndidi and Etebo are too similar to play together

One has to be sacrificed for a creative midfielder

Etebo is obviously the more attacking player. Rohr is the one who chooses to play him in a defensive position.
Both can play together if they have a regista behind them.
The Mikel - Ndidi - Etebo trio are good in the paper but the problem is Rohr just didn't know how to utilize them.

Joebie:
Shehu is not in form. Aina showed his form as a LB (not his natural position). in fact, we no get better midfielder for that bench.

You don't like Shehu simple and plain. What kind of dirty form are you claiming from a guy who barely played one half?

forgiveness:


Rohr should have changed the formation to 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 if he read the match and wanted to destabilise the Algerians plot.

Exactly. I'm surprised he didn't do so. The funny thing is he wouldn't have needed to change too much for it.
He already had Awaziem - Omeruo - Ekong as our 3 CBs, all he needed to do was decide who to bring on as wing backs and who would pair Ighalo/Musa upfront.

edi287:

Etebo is obviously the more attacking player. Rohr is the one who chooses to play him in a defensive position.
Both can play together if they have a regista behind them.
The Mikel - Ndidi - Etebo trio are good in the paper but the problem is Rohr just didn't know how to utilize them.

Which of them controlled the midfield against Algeria? Etebo is a box to box midfielder but controlling the midfield is not his forte, likewise Ndidi, Iwobi is not matured enough for that role

So you basically have 3 midfielders who are not ball holders in the midfield tell me why your team won't suffer

edi287:

Etebo is obviously the more attacking player. Rohr is the one who chooses to play him in a defensive position.
Both can play together if they have a regista behind them.
The Mikel - Ndidi - Etebo trio are good in the paper but the problem is Rohr just didn't know how to utilize them.

Guerdiola bossed the midfield yesterday relieving the pressure on his defence and some of even them went into attacking roles

A controller is an attacking and defensive asset

edi287:

Etebo is obviously the more attacking player. Rohr is the one who chooses to play him in a defensive position.
Both can play together if they have a regista behind them.
The Mikel - Ndidi - Etebo trio are good in the paper but the problem is Rohr just didn't know how to utilize them.

Rohr needed to play a counter attacking tactics because that's all his team could do

You have Ndidi with a 70% pass accuracy, Etebo 60%,Iwobi 70% how can you control a game with this midfield?

Earthquake2:


Which of them controlled the midfield against Algeria? Etebo is a box to box midfielder but controlling the midfield is not his forte, likewise Ndidi, Iwobi is not matured enough for that role

So you basically have 3 midfielders who are not ball holders in the midfield tell me why your team won't suffer

Mikel of course. I said regardless of how he played against Madagascar that they'd come a time we'd need him. That time was yesterday but Rohr was his usual conservative self.
I would started Mikel as a controller with Ndidi and Etebo playing in front of him, Iwobi out wide for Samu and Musa on the left.

Rohr try his best but his best is not good enough for the Super Eagles, his major problem in this AFCON is his inability to take risk by drafting more midfielders in the team but instead he prefers to go with a large number of forwards. Sacking Rohr seems to be the best option but a very risky option as the incoming coach might perform worst than Rohr. Past experiences as shown that bringing in a new coach does not guarantee success all the time.

edi287:

Mikel of course. I said regardless of how he played against Madagascar that they'd come a time we'd need him. That time was yesterday but Rohr was his usual conservative self.
I would started Mikel as a controller with Ndidi and Etebo playing in front of him, Iwobi out wide for Samu and Musa on the left.

Iwobi was disastrous on the wings and Musa's best position is on the left

edi287:

Mikel of course. I said regardless of how he played against Madagascar that they'd come a time we'd need him. That time was yesterday but Rohr was his usual conservative self.
I would started Mikel as a controller with Ndidi and Etebo playing in front of him, Iwobi out wide for Samu and Musa on the left.

Are you guys still touting Mikel?

Mikel has paid his dues and has given us 2013 AFCON.

Mikel has regressed badly. Whether as an AM or CM or DLP, I doubt there's much he can do. Let us look to grooming younger talents. Mikel has little or nothing to offer at this stage of his career.

Please, let us look to the future

darkelf:


Are you guys still touting Mikel?

Mikel has paid his dues and has given us 2013 AFCON.

Mikel has regressed badly. Whether as an AM or CM or DLP, I doubt there's much he can do. Let us look to grooming younger talents. Mikel has little or nothing to offer at this stage of his career.

Please, let us look to the future

I am not "touting" him but fact is he's the only decent controller we have and would have done a job there.