Ugosample:


you are taking a simplistic view to this matter......


the States should create an enabling environment for business to thrive and safety to reign.

Warri would have been the next big thing
but their dumb natives created that atmosphere of hostility and people fled


Kano and Kaduna as well should have been good megalopolis but then religion don block their sense and the state is at constant risk of violence, so many have fled there too

Onitsha should have been the hub back then

but the unsafety and all drove many big men away to Lagos (I still remember)
tho onitsha is improving now.

If Lagos goes down that road, most people there will as well flee elsewhere

There is no sentiment in this thing

If there is no incentive to stay, people won t stay.

Rivers state is going down that same road too
Turning their state to a river of blood have made many sensible people flee to Lagos and Abuja.

To fix things
we need to go back to the basics

Angelfrost:


My good sir, I commend your exceptional take... I can't but agree with most of your input, but it still comes back to leadership... Why do you have governors, senators, etc?... can you compare the returns from the crafts you mentioned these days to back in the day?.. Shall we talk about cost of doing business even one as common place as agriculture?...

Some states are starting to make such moves to empower their youths, and facilitate entrepreneurship... But, majority are paying lip service.

There is so much unharnessed material and human resources in most states, but harnessing requires inputs which individuals can't provide alone... How about the issue of seaports?.. Imagine if we had functioning seaports in 4 other parts of the South, do you know how fast Lagos would be decongested in months?...

Honestly, our leaders have not done close to enough to mitigate the economic exodus of their people to Lagos... I doubt they are even interested.

Angelfrost:


Thank you for throwing more light on my position... This is very profound and completely apt.

grandstar:
A picture tells a thousand words. Anytime I see an abandoned motorbike lying flat by the road, I instantly know its rider no longer has need for it

Yes, these pictures are signs that the economy is in a bad state. Millions have lost jobs and the economy is predicted to grow at a shameful 2.5% annually for the next 4 years, which is not even up to the population growth rate- meaning that Nigerians in real terms are getting poorer each year.

Not only is homelessness growing, so is crime. It has increased everywhere and can be sensed through the growing kidnapping, Yahoo plus, cattle rustling and so on.

Ugosample:


you are taking a simplistic view to this matter......


the States should create an enabling environment for business to thrive and safety to reign.

Warri would have been the next big thing
but their dumb natives created that atmosphere of hostility and people fled


Kano and Kaduna as well should have been good megalopolis but then religion don block their sense and the state is at constant risk of violence, so many have fled there too

Onitsha should have been the hub back then

but the unsafety and all drove many big men away to Lagos (I still remember)
tho onitsha is improving now.

If Lagos goes down that road, most people there will as well flee elsewhere

There is no sentiment in this thing

If there is no incentive to stay, people won t stay.

Rivers state is going down that same road too
Turning their state to a river of blood have made many sensible people flee to Lagos and Abuja.

To fix things
we need to go back to the basics

Bahddo:
everyone can't be farmers. Farming is level 1 civilization, especially the subsistence kind you are advocating for.

What we need is industrialization in most parts of the country. We need to be able to produce basic things (besides food) and generate adequate power so we can take part in the current tech revolution.

Ugosample:


lest I forget

now that herdsmen are rampaging the country

you really think it's a good idea to go farm?

Fhemmmy:


I love this, but the question remain what is their going to Lagos gave to them? NOTHING, so instead of waiting for incentives, people need to start to take the bull by the horn and determine to succeed instead of waiting for the incentive, have you noticed that most of those cities you have mentioned has produced few wealthy people in Nigeria? So is it possible that they created that hostility to create monopoly of whatever they are doing?

Ugosample:


you are missing the point

the govt created the disincentive to farm

It's ALL THEIR FAULT

And this began decades ago
when unproductive people in cities were sharing oil money while those in rural areas were tilling the ground getting nothing much

The rural guys wanted in on free money too and they left

That was one of the many destructive policies taken by the govt in decades past

Ugosample:


owww
never thought of that tho (your last paragraph)

That might just be it
monopoly

how come I NEVER thought of that

Fhemmmy:


I am not excusing the leaders at all ma'am as a matter of fact, i have already accepted fate that we have no leadership in Nigeria and because of that, it is important for people to start to see it that they can't depend nor wait on the so called leaders because of what you said, they are all lip service and even when the government release funds, has it ever get to the hands of those that truly need them. . . . Now that we have established the fact that the government is just as useless as useless can be, what is NEXT?

People can't and should not fold arms, people to start with whatever they can do and move on from it, it is possible to start with an acre of corn, it is possible to start with an acre of palm, people need to empower self if no one will empower them . . . Moving to Lagos has never been a solution and will never be.

Fhemmmy:


Bros or Sister, we have to walk first before we can start to fly, basic food, we can provide and how will people work when they are hungry because they can't even afford to eat. . . . Someone that went to university for Agricultural engineer and yet don't wanna reside in the bush, why can't he or she see opportunity and mechanize the farming to make it better, not necessarily have to carry machete and hoes, the time has come to make farming look good Sir

Pavarottii:

Jealousy? Did u see those pictures... Mayb u should take a look again... U won't find that in PH...

Bahddo:
so you want our best doctors who could treat you when you need medical care to go and cultivate cassava instead? Same with vibrant entrepreneurs who have dreams of building the next big tech product?

I get your point, but people aren't rushing to Lagos because they are hungry and there is abundant food there. Food is actually more affordable in most other states.

Yes Nigeria should focus more on agriculture, but it cannot and should not take the place of industrialization. It is the lack of development in other states that is fuelling the mass exodus to Lagos.

Angelfrost:


You are right sir... But, someone has got to educate the young ones.

How do you educate people that thing they know it ALL already? And i blame some of the movies they watching too, because lots if Nigeria movies will show a man goes to the city from village and come back with cars and building houses for mama and papa

Fhemmmy:


Again, we can blame the government for the past, we can blame them for the present, but if we blame them for the future, we have a problem, it is time we pretend that we have no government, all level of government has failed and have nothing to offer, so lets move on from there and take the bull by the horn for a better tomorrow for us all . . . We have 2 choices:
Chase out the fools called leaders
Take the bull by the horn and create a future that we can be proud of without those so called leaders

PICK ONE

Angelfrost:


Tell that to the large number of citizens trooping in daily from every region in the nation... This is what happens when you center all major business activities and international business interests in one state... Lagos has long ceased to be the capital of Nigeria, but the memo obviously failed to trickle down all these decades. It never occurred to your leaders to decentralize business activities by opening up seaports in other parts of the country, even move diplomatic buildings, or mandate industries to relocate to other states...

Shall we talk about the failure of most states to create jobs, and enable establishment of businesses to accommodate the teeming work force of the nation...

This is truly a shithole...

Beautyaddy:


Yeah Right!...Cheap talk as Usual.

The current leaders that you are trying to claim that Nigerians should pretend are not leaders are the products of where and how most Nigerians are and want.

Nigeria just had an election last three months or so...some people are still claiming that the election was corruptly done, the Supreme court(which is already filled with corrupt judges) are yet to decide on the case if indeed the last presidential election was a freely and fairly conducted election( the media coverage about it already showed it was not)...and now you're trying to suggest that Nigerians should pick one...Yes, Nigerians already did that with the last elections.

To continue with the old identity politics of standing by leaders that will favour their individual ethnic groups and not necessary what will bring about drastic changes to the current, chronic, failed and old and sad affairs of the Nigerian citizens and its country.

Ugosample:


but then the States they are coming from are faokrr states

So you can't blame thrm for seeking better life in Lagos

it's human nature

Fhemmmy:


How many of the doctors even from the village goes to Lagos to reside under bridge or live in penury? We are tallking about those that are punishing themselves by being in Lagos. . .

Bahddo:
how many people have lands that they can farm? How many farmers in rural parts of Nigeria are comfortable? Why do you think the youth are running away from agriculture (and rural areas) in the first place?

There is no incentive to engage in subsistence agriculture. Too much effort, not enough reward. To make it more lucrative, we need machines (and favorable policies). However, these machines are expensive because we are buying everything from other countries. The only way we would stop buying everything is by producing some.

In the end, everything points to the obvious next step for Nigeria. Industrialization. We need more of it in other parts of Nigeria, besides Lagos.

Dagger111:



When u said PH, i gt to knw it's enviousness. Imagine comparing PH to Lag. Lagos is jst a state everyone want to live and work, it must surely be overpopulated. Check those areas posted above, it's all occupied by people frm other states. The real Lagosians don't live like that.

Fhemmmy:


You are yet to see opportunities because you only see the issues, and where there are issues, there are bound to be opportunity.
In life, you will only see what you chose to see and till you are able to see opportunities instead of problems, no one can force you to, sir, for the last time, the government needs to do a whole lot and many depends on them, that is a known fact, however, while the government is busy looting and doing nothing, do we fold arms and wait?

Fhemmmy:


Again, all i am saying is this . . .If you depend on someone that can't help you, what do you do? Move on and help yourself. The government don't have what it takes to help no one, Nigerian politics is not a "Help the masses" kinda people, but grab all you can while you are there.
But this is not for us to talk about politics but to talk of moving forward by grabbing the bulls by the horn, no one will help NO ONE, so i have to help myself and you need to do same for yourself
However, if the government turn around and decide to help, great!
A government that for decades can't even provide the people with basic light?

Beautyaddy:


Okay, yes...most Nigerians have already started to doing that and will continue...you know like to set up businesses, create and provide jobs to the best of their abilities to the little few people they can afford to do so with.

However, you also have to understand that Nigeria is a country who still have elected leaders(either corrupt or not) that has been given authority to govern and control the affairs of the Country. And so no matter how people try to "grab the bulls by the horn" and get out to help themselves to bring about changes to themselves or their communities, the already failed Nigeria government in charge with their given powers will still put some restrictions on you.

There will always be restrictions and opportunity to find ways around those restrictions might be the difference between you and poverty. I never said grab power from the so call leaders but instead of seeing a problem, see opportunities, anywhere or anytime, there is a problem, there is opportunities and a legit millionaire is made

Bahddo:
Underrate the importance of a government all you wish, there's no way Nigeria gets any better without favorable government policies to boost agriculture, commerce and industry.

Herdsmen killing farmers in their farms (without any serious government intervention) is just an example.

The people rushing to Lagos are trying to do the opposite of folding arms and waiting for the government. They are trying to go 'hustle' where they think opportunities abound.

Only difference is that you think farming is the answer to all of Nigeria's problems and they disagree.