wirinet:


You are just going round in circles. Muller said he was acting under the DOJ'S guidelines, so it is not in his place to find the president guilty or not. He clearly said he did not and cannot make such determination. One think he is sure of is that he did not exonerate the president of obstruction of justice, contrary to what the president is saying. His is sure that there was no collusion which was his chief mandate by the AG.

And which law gives him the power to "not exonerate" someone he was asked to investigate? He was able to make a determination that there was no collusion irrespective of DOJ guidelines, so how can he be using the same guidelines as an excuse for not reaching a decision on obstruction? It didn't prevent him from reaching a decision on collusion did it? As for what the President is saying, he is absolutely right!! When you don't find someone guilty of something then it means he is not guilty!! You can't create a new designation of "not innocent" or "not exonerated" that is alien to the law. Even the supreme court only has the power to find an accused guilty or not guilty so where did he get the power to say someone is "not exonerated"? I don't know if you are watching the hearing but twice now, he has been challenged on this and he admitted it was unprecedented. You either determine or decline to determine, he declined to determine simple!! He can't then go round to start saying while this report does not determine he committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him. That is legal nonsense!! If you don't determine he was guilty, then it's no longer in your hands to declare him not innocent because that is already presumed by the law. If you have not been found guilty, You are innocent!! That's the law and Mueller knows that

wirinet:

I know you are far more intelligent than you are displaying here. Special council is very different from independent council. The main difference is in the word independent, meaning he is independent of the DOJ and any other US organisation. He can indict a sitting president and he can investigate any thing. Special council is under the DOJ and is guided by the AG. He cannot go outside the mandate he has been given.

And yes because his mandate to does not include obstruction of justice, he cannot make such determination. Meanwhile he cannot exonerate the president of obstruction of justice. Read between the lines.

wrong


https://www.google.com/search?ei=m6A4Xey5Na-AhbIP2KmZ4A8&q=functions+of+a+special+counsel&oq=functions+of+a+special+counsel&gs_l=psy-ab.3..35i39.5097.13628..14621...2.0..0.273.3726.0j2j15......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j35i304i39j0i13j0i7i30j0i8i7i30.KI6_ZoCHziE&ved=0ahUKEwis88mFlc7jAhUvQEEAHdhUBvwQ4dUDCAo&uact=5


In the United States, a special counsel (formerly called special prosecutor or independent counsel) is a lawyer appointed to investigate, and potentially prosecute, a particular case of suspected wrongdoing for which a conflict of interest exists for the usual prosecuting authority.



His mandate does not include obstruction but he indicted individuals on crimes that has nothing to do with Russian collussion,
He also did not say he found Trump guilty of any wrong doing. He is supposed to find evidence to the prosecute him but the truth is there is not enough evidence. That means he is innocent. Get it?

The CIA/FBI/DNC paid for for a bogus Dossier, used to wiretap Trump before the election, and used it as a basis for bogus 2 year investigation on Trump after the election. They are the people who obstructed justice. And Mueller said he had not heard of Fusion GPS LOL.

CTPlayer:
The CIA/FBI/DNC paid for for a bogus Dossier, used to wiretap Trump before the election, and used it as a basis for bogus 2 year investigation on Trump after the election. They are the people who obstructed justice. And Mueller said he had not heard of Fusion GPS LOL.

Shocking right ? He was busy indicting people on old charges

stanech:


Shocking right ? He was busy indicting people on old charges

Lots of "process" crimes like "lying", of which these crimes would never have been committed if not for the investigation.
And that fraud crime by Manafort occurred in 2006. I had no idea that lying to the FBI was a crime.

Anduku:

And which law gives him the power to "not exonerate" someone he was asked to investigate? He was able to make a determination that there was no collusion irrespective of DOJ guidelines, so how can he be using the same guidelines as an excuse for not reaching a decision on obstruction? It didn't prevent him from reaching a decision on collusion did it? As for what the President is saying, he is absolutely right!! When you don't find someone guilty of something then it means he is not guilty!! You can't create a new designation of "not innocent" or "not exonerated" that is alien to the law. Even the supreme court only has the power to find an accused guilty or not guilty so where did he get the power to say someone is "not exonerated"? I don't know if you are watching the hearing but twice now, he has been challenged on this and he admitted it was unprecedented. You either determine or decline to determine, he declined to determine simple!! He can't then go round to start saying while this report does not determine he committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him. That is legal nonsense!! If you don't determine he was guilty, then it's no longer in your hands to declare him not innocent because that is already presumed by the law. If you have not been found guilty, You are innocent!! That's the law and Mueller knows that

You are just writing mumbo jumbo. The whole investigation was on Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible collusion by Trump or his campaign, so I don't know what you are jumbling " He was able to make a determination that there was no collusion irrespective of DOJ guidelines" about. The collusion was the guidelines. The same guideline did not cover obstruction of justice among other things like taxes, stormy Daniels, campaign finance, Trump university, etc. You think if it was a independent council like ken Starr, he will not go after Trump on stormy Daniels?

stanech:



wrong


https://www.google.com/search?ei=m6A4Xey5Na-AhbIP2KmZ4A8&q=functions+of+a+special+counsel&oq=functions+of+a+special+counsel&gs_l=psy-ab.3..35i39.5097.13628..14621...2.0..0.273.3726.0j2j15......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j35i304i39j0i13j0i7i30j0i8i7i30.KI6_ZoCHziE&ved=0ahUKEwis88mFlc7jAhUvQEEAHdhUBvwQ4dUDCAo&uact=5


In the United States, a special counsel (formerly called special prosecutor or independent counsel) is a lawyer appointed to investigate, and potentially prosecute, a particular case of suspected wrongdoing for which a conflict of interest exists for the usual prosecuting authority.



His mandate does not include obstruction but he indicted individuals on crimes that has nothing to do with Russian collussion,
He also did not say he found Trump guilty of any wrong doing. He is supposed to find evidence to the prosecute him but the truth is there is not enough evidence. That means he is innocent. Get it?

I honestly don't have time to school you. A special council is different from independent council. Although their job is similar, and independent council does not report and not under the DOJ.

wirinet:

I honestly don't have time to school you. A special council is different from independent council. Although their job is similar, and independent council does not report and was not under the DOJ.

U know pass google now abi?

wirinet:

You are just writing mumbo jumbo. The whole investigation was on Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible collusion by Trump or his campaign, so I don't know what you are jumbling " He was able to make a determination that there was no collusion irrespective of DOJ guidelines" about. The collusion was the guidelines. The same guideline did not cover obstruction of justice among other things like taxes, stormy Daniels, campaign finance, Trump university, etc. You think if it was a independent council like ken Starr, he will not go after Trump on stormy Daniels?

You just dribbled yourself into a dead end! If the guidelines didn't cover obstruction of justice then under which power is he saying "not exonerated" ? If he doesn't have the power to say guilty or not guilty of obstruction under the guidelines then he also has no power to say not exonerated either.

wirinet:

I honestly don't have time to school you. A special council is different from independent council. Although their job is similar, and independent council does not report and not under the DOJ.

Pardon these fleas, they just wanna parrot American ish cos it makes them feel cool. They have not seen the local airport in their hood.

The afternoon session is like the DNC went to take dope, they dug harder and more coordinated questioning and learn more from the Mueller morning mood.

Mueller himself has proven 2 things:
1) He wasn’t in charge
2) He didn’t know what was going on.

So.....did the deep state write the report, too?

LOL...Mueller was so confused that I began wondering if he was the one that actually wrote the report.

stanech:
Mueller himself has proven 2 things:
1) He wasn’t in charge
2) He didn’t know what was going on.

So.....did the deep state write the report, too?

GBAM!!

stanech:
Mueller himself has proven 2 things:
1) He wasn’t in charge
2) He didn’t know what was going on.

So.....did the deep state write the report, too?

That or the 12 Angry Dems on his team who voted for Hillary.

Anduku waiting for your ban, your new MO of running away from getting schooled and exposing your gutter logic.

John Cardillo
@johncardillo
I'm still trying to understand why it was OK for Hillary to pay Fusion GPS to send Steele to Russia to get dirt on Trump, but it wasn't OK for Team Trump to meet with a Russian to get dirt on Hillary.

CTPlayer:
John Cardillo
@johncardillo
I'm still trying to understand why it was OK for Hillary to pay Fusion GPS to send Steele to Russia to get dirt on Trump, but it wasn't OK for Team Trump to meet with a Russian to get dirt on Hillary.

Reason why we say y'all should get an education, The GOP paid Fusion GPS first and left them after the Drumpf won the GOP ticket and the DNC took it over. Next time you copy jargon from twitter use your common sense.

Unlike what the kopfsch virus is claiming up there that Mueller's abysmal performance was because he is a 75 year old who was made to testify for long, it's a big fat lie because Mueller's terrible performance began at the very beginning of his testimony. From the start it was as if he was suffering from dementia and he couldn't remember things that was in his own report even when they were read back to him. It's obvious he didn't write that report. The question then is who did? The bottom line is he just buried the Democrats hope of impeaching Trump with this report

itchie:
Unlike what the kopfsch virus is claiming up there that Mueller's abysmal performance was because he is a 75 year old who was made to testify for long, it's a big fat lie because Mueller's terrible performance began at the very beginning of his testimony. From the start it was as if he was suffering from dementia and he couldn't remember things that was in his own report even when they were read back to him. It's obvious he didn't write that report. The question then is who did? The bottom line is he just buried the Democrats hope of impeaching Trump with this report

Lols!! You are joke, Mueller is old and trying to follow the report findings to the latter. The reason he's buying of the partisan back and forth plus pushing. The dems read the mood and all, reason why they read all the crimes in the afternoon instead of referring to the report or expecting Mueller to dig hard. How many of your Nigerian leaders can do half of that, first with ya semi illiterate president.

Can you Imagine this virus quoting me up there? Everybody please beware of the kopfsch virus, the one with the f . We have been warned to always watch out for the f . Quote him at your own peril

Anduku:
Not all of Citizen Kophschmerzen's monikers are targeted by the antispam bot. Only the one that starts with (kop f sch) with the f is targeted. So you have nothing to fear zendi. You can quote all other of his monikers without any repercussions. Just avoid the one that starts with Kopf ok.

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stanech:
Mueller himself has proven 2 things:
1) He wasn’t in charge
2) He didn’t know what was going on.

So.....did the deep state write the report, too?

You are on point, Mueller didn't know what was in his own report.

Don't let the left retroactively downplay the importance of today's Mueller hearings because it went poorly for Democrats. They held mock hearings, practiced for cameras, and even set up a stand-in Jim Jordan. They went all in.

It didn't work. It flopped.

Ojomadiba, I sight you. Please take care not to quote the nairalander named kopfsch.....en, that handle is a virus and you will be hit by the antispam bot if you quote it.

Dazangel11 please also take note

dazangel11:
Don't let the left retroactively downplay the importance of today's Mueller hearings because it went poorly for Democrats. They held mock hearings, practiced for cameras, and even set up a stand-in Jim Jordan. They went all in.

It didn't work. It flopped.

Lols!!! Ya are laughable asf!! Jim Jordan and the GOP fell like a pack of card. Today the parrot tale of no collision, no objection crap was obliterated.

We have all establish that the POTUS and people around him committed felonies.

So start by wearing your thinking cap before infesting cyberspace with baloney.

itchie:
Ojomadiba, I sight you. Please take care not to quote the nairalander named kopfsch.....en, that handle is a virus and you will be hit by the antispam not if you quote it.

Dazangel11 please also take note

Noted

CTPlayer:


That or the 12 Angry Dems on his team who voted for Hillary.

They also donated to her campaign and yet Mueller picked them in his team to investigate Clinton's opponent. He also picked peter strozk the man who was exchanging emails with his girlfriend on how to prevent Trump from being president, Bruce ohr the man whose wife worked for fusion GPS who had a hand in the Steele dossier. She was the one who passed the dossier to the FBI. Despite all these conflicts of interest and the clear animosity these people had against Trump, Mueller still went ahead to pick them in his team and when he was questioned about this today he was just mumbling like an idiot that doesn't know anything

itchie:
Ojomadiba, I sight you. Please take care not to quote the nairalander named kopfsch.....en, that handle is a virus and you will be hit by the antispam not if you quote it.

Dazangel11 please also take note

Ever since that I decided not to quote him I have never been banned by Spam bot.

Robert Mueller's now famous quote @Bolded when asked a question that could expose his lies, Guess what it is?


"It's not in my purview"

lol, Noted

itchie:
Ojomadiba, I sight you. Please take care not to quote the nairalander named kopfsch.....en, that handle is a virus and you will be hit by the antispam bot if you quote it.

Dazangel11 please also take note