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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:34pm On Aug 15, 2019
Reece James for Wigan during the 2018-19 Championship season:

• Most minutes (3,972)
• Most chances created (74)
• Most take-ons completed (47)
• 2nd-most tackles made (94)
• 2nd-most interceptions (41)

By the time Azpilicueta gets replaced by this kid, i will want to see the remaining block in that Sarri foundation they will point to.

Reece-Christiensen-Zouma-Emerson

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 7:36pm On Aug 15, 2019
iamrosheed:

If you really think a man can coach a team and the result starts (pressing, fluid passing) showing after two games then good luck to you
oga, he had preseason with the players. how long did it take sarri his own.


my own is that sarri made not to be difficult for the players to execute since they have already been doing it. although it started a little during conte's reign.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 7:39pm On Aug 15, 2019
raumdeuter:


Some of us watch games critically and not by peeping through our landlords window

This was the move leading to the goal, circled were Giroud and VVD

How Giroud made that run and left VVD pointing like a traffic guard is what we will never know
what should vvd have done, pulled giroud down at that point? or continue to run around with him to any part of the pitch he goes to?


i am not yet on the vvd hype keke, but your hatred for is making you say ridiculous things, just like the case of hazard

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 7:43pm On Aug 15, 2019
airmark:


Who was the closest to Giroud below. Even Lana1 corrected your stupidity earlier.

that man no know ball, abi na hatred dey do am. so he wanted vvd to follow giroud to that position?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 7:50pm On Aug 15, 2019
Greatihex:
when did lampard tell you the bold. na lie
ok.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 7:51pm On Aug 15, 2019
airmark:


Below is the full coverage, if you also expected VVD to keep on running with Giroud like foolish raumdeuter, opening his rear for Pulisic to go solo into the box, then you need to quit analysing defensive play.

VVD would be the most stupid top defender to do that when Matip and Gomez were there to follow Giroud.

[img]https:///media/8-15-2019/tz0sfM.gif[/img]
the people to blame there are matip and gomez, gomez especially. had he run faster to mark giroud, he would have easily intercepted the pass
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:56pm On Aug 15, 2019
Greatihex:
what should vvd have done, pulled giroud down at that point? or continue to run around with him to any part of the pitch he goes to?


i am not yet on the vvd hype keke, but your hatred for is making you say ridiculous things, just like the case of hazard

Defenders that follow strikers, what do they do?? Do they pull them down? or what type of follish question is this?

Giroud is not running to just any part of the field, he is running towards the goal freeing himself from his marker

The consequence of not following him was why Giroud was free to take the shot
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 7:59pm On Aug 15, 2019
Lana1:
He played Europa and had a good outing in the league.
hazard didn't play much in the europa though
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:00pm On Aug 15, 2019
Greatihex:
the people to blame there are matip and gomez, gomez especially. had he run faster to mark giroud, he would have easily intercepted the pass

Why should Gomez be the one to run after the man VVD was marking? Does VVD have any responsibility on the field aside pointing?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Lana1(m): 8:00pm On Aug 15, 2019
raumdeuter:


This must be great for him to top the goal scorers chart back to back and have 15 CL goals in 2 seasons
Hazard played the same league for 6yrs never topped scorers chart, has 8 CL goals

Better to learn shakushaku from Salah
angry

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 8:04pm On Aug 15, 2019
Lana1:
raumdeuter airmark see shakushaku at its finest.
grin grin
even the hazard that he loves to malign will not do this one grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 8:05pm On Aug 15, 2019
raumdeuter:


Why should Gomez be the one to run after the man VVD was marking?
abeg, go and face airmark. i don't have strength to educate you

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 8:05pm On Aug 15, 2019
diggz:


With which set of players?
azpi, chris, kepa and emerson were all in his team. they all do training together
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:06pm On Aug 15, 2019
Greatihex:
the people to blame there are matip and gomez, gomez especially. had he run faster to mark giroud, he would have easily intercepted the pass

Gomez and Matip were ball-watching there, no sane person would expect VVD to keep running with Giroud when Matip and Gomez were there to take over the marking of Giroud.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Lana1(m): 8:09pm On Aug 15, 2019
Greatihex:
even the hazard that he loves to malign will not do this one grin
Wont lie, never used to see Hazard making back passes after a run like that.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 8:17pm On Aug 15, 2019
Greatihex:
azpi, chris, kepa and emerson were all in his team. they all do training together

Chris and Emerson? Training? Did you watch emerson at all? Same emerson sarri almost destroyed his remaining career on the bench. Which yeye Chris and training?

I am sure it was the uselessness in sarri that have destroyed the remaining good in Azpi.

Let me not even start with the thing you've included as a kepakeeper.


The only player he can get credit for na akpuruka aka jorginhoeee.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:17pm On Aug 15, 2019
Greatihex:
what should vvd have done, pulled giroud down at that point? or continue to run around with him to any part of the pitch he goes to?


i am not yet on the vvd hype keke, but your hatred for is making you say ridiculous things, just like the case of hazard

Defenders that follow strikers, what do they do?? Do they pull them down? or what type of follish question is this?

Giroud is not running to just any part of the field, he is running towards the goal freeing himself from his marker

The consequence of not following him was why Giroud was free to take the shot.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 8:17pm On Aug 15, 2019
Lana1:
raumdeuter airmark see shakushaku at its finest.
grin grin

raumdeuter come o...

They said even Adama Traore would not do this one. grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:19pm On Aug 15, 2019
thorrvik55:


ramdeuter come o...

They said even Adama Traore would not do this one. grin grin
Greatihex:
even the hazard that he loves to malign will not do this one grin

Neither Adama Traore nor Hazard will also top scorers chart 2 seasons back to back and none of them will have 15 CL goals in 2 seasons

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:22pm On Aug 15, 2019
airmark:


Gomez and Matip were ball-watching there, no sane person would expect VVD to keep running with Giroud when Matip and Gomez were there to take over the marking of Giroud.

How was Gomez and Matip ball watching

VVD was marking Giroud, Matip faced Pulisic and went towards his man, VVD instead of follwing his man stopped and was pointing

Why should they take over VVDs job in marking Giroud
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:44pm On Aug 15, 2019
raumdeuter:


How was Gomez and Matip ball watching

VVD was marking Giroud, Matip faced Pulisic and went towards his man, VVD instead of follwing his man stopped and was pointing

Why should they take over VVDs job in marking Giroud

Enrol your kid in a good academy as a defender. In few years time, your kid will educate you better and you will stop asking foolish questions.

That was how you argued blindly when VVD broke down Spurs attack last time. Now that brilliant defending is what experts use to teach their kids in soccer schools.

https://www.soccercoachweekly.net/newsletters/win-2v1-battles-like-virgil-van-dijk/
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adisaowallla: 9:01pm On Aug 15, 2019
raumdeuter:


[s]Any pro footballer that plays for a top team has some quality, the debate has always been that he was overrated

Modric won the award last year Ibime says its polling booth
VVD gets nominated for the same award this year, ibime is sharing Ls[/s]

"Won" and "nominated" no be the same thing na.

Yeah, Modric winning the award might be debatable but I dont think any rational person woulda questioned his nomination....

Same logic applies to VVD here - Let him win 1st before you bring up any debate.

As for his nomination.......

cool

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Biggieboy: 9:42pm On Aug 15, 2019
Just imagine wot was going through Van Dijk's mind when Kante was marking him in the picture below.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 10:54pm On Aug 15, 2019
Biggieboy:
Just imagine wot was going through Van Dijk's mind when Kante was marking him in the picture below.
as in eh. The thing off me
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 10:55pm On Aug 15, 2019
diggz:


Chris and Emerson? Training? Did you watch emerson at all? Same emerson sarri almost destroyed his remaining career on the bench. Which yeye Chris and training?

I am sure it was the uselessness in sarri that have destroyed the remaining good in Azpi.

Let me not even start with the thing you've included as a kepakeeper.


The only player he can get credit for na akpuruka aka jorginhoeee.
grin mehn! Your hatred for sarri no be here
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 10:55pm On Aug 15, 2019
airmark:


Gomez and Matip were ball-watching there, no sane person would expect VVD to keep running with Giroud when Matip and Gomez were there to take over the marking of Giroud.
Raumdeuter no know ball. Walahi
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:16pm On Aug 15, 2019
Greatihex:
Raumdeuter no know ball. Walahi

Na monkey post football experience apari dey use.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:52pm On Aug 15, 2019
Biggieboy:
Just imagine wot was going through Van Dijk's mind when Kante was marking him in the picture below.

This is simply down to zonal marking.

All the tall boys have zones to mark. The procedure is for them to deal with whatever drops in their zone, rather than man mark.

Kante is a free man whose job is to disrupt/man mark the oppositions biggest threat and unbalance them from getting a good run and leap at the ball. This allows the zonal markers a fairer chance to win the ball. Kante job is not to jump with VVD, but simply to stop him running and gaining momentum.

Often with zonal marking, the zonal markers lose the aerial duel because the opposition have a clear run at the ball and have more momentum than a standing jump. Kantes job is simply to disrupt that momentum. That's why he is gumming body to VVD, and putting arms round him so VVD can't run.

I would expect other short players like Jorginho would have been doing the same to Matip

Good thinking from Lampard. I've always preferred man marking to zonal, but this tactic opened my eyes to how to reduce risk in zonal marking. It's been long I learned something new in football.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 12:55am On Aug 16, 2019
popizaino:



Refer to airmark's post for more clarification. I believe he has indirectly countered this with his response to Kimbeast. By the way building from the back didn't start under that chain smoker called Sarri it started way back from Luiz Felipe scolari although there was alteration when guss hindink came but it was later introduced again by RDM during his short spell. Defenders now take better risk even when charged by opposition players with ground sublime passes picking out any of the midfielders and not the usual save option of returning back the ball to the keeper or playing sideways for the full backs as in under that sleep inducing football called Sarriball . Fikayo tomori exhibited this perfectly yesterday, you can watch the match again for quick evidence. The quick interchange and slick movement upfront again has nothing to do with Sarri, the trio of mata, Oscar and hazard were mesmerising us with this for a long time even before the change smoker got his famous napoli job which didn't stop when the former two left. Lastly, judging from this first two games Frank lampard doesn't look inexperienced, tactics, sub, idea transmitted to this players have been spot on so far.
He countered nothing my friend. Don't follow the ignorant dolts on this thread. Look at the set up of our last match under sarri and yesterday against Liverpool. Lampard has copied Sarri exact template in the teams setup. The average position of every player is practically identical, Kante and Jorginho particularly. Not taking away from Frank, but the benefits of having sarri for just one year at Chelsea has aided Lampard's idea of football and in implementating it quicker.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 1:10am On Aug 16, 2019
Greatihex:
corrected. sarri was more about having the ball, but there was no quick transition to attack. he just wanted his team to move grdually from defence to attack with short passes even when there is an opportunity to go direct. the team did not fully play the way he wanted, because the winners in the team refused to play the way he wanted because they know that it will only end up being like van gaal team
I disagree . Sarri is a more system oriented Coach and Players did not like it, but if it was followed properly the results Would have been deadly (look at Napoli's matches and record in his last year there). The fact is our players where stubborn and needed more freedom which Lampard is doing right now. He allows the players more freedom to express themselves that's why kovacic,Pedro and to some extent Kante are no longer restricted.

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