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If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by OnPointMan(m): 10:47am On Aug 23, 2019 |
Many people say today that God begotten son(Jesus) is God Almighty, they argue that the Father and Son are one. But the Bible made us know that David was God begotten son too. Does this also make David God Almighty? If not, why not? Cc jesusjnr, badaatum, enthronedbygod, bingbagbo, mrpresident1, vybzkartel, buytruth |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by shilenji(m): 10:55am On Aug 23, 2019 |
its not our fault you dont understand what you read,everybody get hin own wey hin dey deal with abeeeegi 1 Like |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by OnPointMan(m): 11:26am On Aug 23, 2019 |
shilenji: Calm down my brother, you are too emotional. Am a Christian too. I just don't believe Jesus is the Almighty. if you think he is, make me understand what i read pls. 2 Likes |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by shilenji(m): 11:31am On Aug 23, 2019 |
OnPointMan:okay i will glady explain to you,it wasnt accounted anywhere in the bible that david was Gods beggotten son,but it was said that jesus is Gods begotten son and remember that jesus was said to be son of david. jesus needed an earthly passage which God gave through davids lineage.Remember thou son of david. God the father,son(jesus)and the holyghost. thank you. 2 Likes |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by kimco(m): 11:37am On Aug 23, 2019 |
shilenji: And who are these people who wrote dat he is the begotten son? Again, proof of the bible testaments is not the bible. What proof do you have that Jesus is God? |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by OnPointMan(m): 11:55am On Aug 23, 2019 |
shilenji: Psalm 2:7 said David was God begotten son sir‘You are My Son, Today I have begotten You'. Tell me another thing. 3 Likes |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by Preciousgirl(f): 12:02pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
OK, Answer my questions too 1. Who in the Bible ever said, if you see me you have seen the father? 2 Who in the Bible ever claimed he and God are one? 3.Who in the Bible was with God in the beginning and was God? 4.Who in the new testament after Jesus ascension was talking with men from heaven 5*Why are Believers commanded to do all things in Jesus name 6Who in the Bible claimed he is the first and the last 7Who is the World waiting to come? 8Who created all things according to the Bible? 9 who in the Bible shared glory with God before the foundations of the World 10 Who was worshipped even when he was a baby 11who in the Bible died and resurrected on his own 12 who died for your sins? 13 Who is Lord of the sabbath? 14 Who sits at the right hand of power? 15At the mention of which name do all knees in heaven and on earth bow? 16 Who walked on the sea in the Bible 17 Which child would be born according to Isaiah 9:6 and would be called Mighty God and Everlasting father? 18 Who else calls himself I AM? 19Who forgives sins? 20 Whose blood redeemed. Man? I am waiting for your answers 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by Pusyiter(m): 12:11pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
My broda, If you read the Bible like a layman, you will get a layman's answer The Bible is a mystery/concealed Book only Revealed by the Holy Spirit. Your above context was a prophetic declaration through David referring to Jesus Christ. David was a King and demonstrated acts of a Prophet as the Spirit came upon him. Your referenced scriptures was not referring to David but Jesus. Receive the gift of the Holy Spirit ![]() OnPointMan: 1 Like |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by sulasa07(m): 12:18pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
OnPointMan:They will soon tell you that you don't have the holy spirit. My question to them is that is it the same holy spirit that made Jimmy swaggart to go to LovePeddler house,or Reverend king to commit attrocities,or is it the same holy spirit that made Catholic father's sodomize young boys and girls or is it the same holy spirit that made a lot of Nigerian Pastors say Buhari will die since years ago but he's still alive and tormenting us now OR is there another Holy Spirit (Maybe it's also 3 in 1 of a kind 2 Likes
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Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by OnPointMan(m): 12:32pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
Pusyiter: 'Today have i begotten you'. If this is talking about Jesus, isn't this a pointer to the fact that Jesus isn't God Almighty? |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by OnPointMan(m): 12:39pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
Preciousgirl: "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will." was Jesus praying to himself here? Do you want to tell me Jesus was delusional? No, God forbid. He was praying to God Almighty here. 2 Likes |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by bingbagbo(m): 12:40pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
OnPointMan: 1 Corinthians 12:3 Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by OnPointMan(m): 12:45pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
bingbagbo: Lol. And, who is disputting the lordship of Jesus? |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by Kenoxman(m): 12:47pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
Even David in the spirit acknowledged Jesus as Lord (Ps 110:1 Mt 22:41-45), how can he (David) now begin to drag position with his Lord (Jesus)? That passage in psalm 2 was neva referring to David the king but Jesus Christ. Mind u, this and other prophecies concerning Jesus were revealed to kings and prophets way before the coming of Christ. If u read the book of Isaiah, u will understand more about those prophecies. Jesus is the only begotten son of God & no other. U need guidance while reading the Bible. |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by OnPointMan(m): 12:52pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
sulasa07: So many lies and errors in the name of the holy spirit my brother. May God forgive us all. Hope you are not an atheist ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by sulasa07(m): 12:58pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
OnPointMan:Why would I be an Atheist? 1 Like |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by bingbagbo(m): 1:29pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
OnPointMan: Jw cultist spotted Your jehovah isnt even in the scriptures |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by movingclouds(m): 1:34pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
Here's where the mystery of Trinity is... Since you're making use of the Bible in this argument (which means the Bible is a valid book in our discussion).. We begin from the book of Genesis... The first verse made mention of a spirit, The Spirit of God... The second verse made mention of a Word.. Verse 2; And God said(Word).. There we found three Subjects doing the same function of creation,God, His Spirit and His Word. Now still making use of the book of Genesis where the creation of man was written (For according to the scriptural record, only man was made in His image). The question is, what's the Image of God? Does the image talk about God's look? My answer is a "no". Man is made up of three entities, the body, spirit and soul. When Jesus said "I and my Father is one", He knew what He was saying. God's Spirit is God, God's Word is God, but both depend on the Head, God the Father. We can argue till forever that Jesus isn't God using Bible passages, but none of those passages counter Jesus's God attribute. When he talked about the cup passing over, he showed the attribute of the flesh. That's how it feels when u stand before sin and your spirit tells u not to do it but you end up doing it. Jesus felt the same way, but He was able to overcome that saying "thy will be done". To learn more about the Trinity, read the book of John |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by OnPointMan(m): 2:19pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
bingbagbo: Lol. Am not jw sir. Why did you say am jw? |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by Pusyiter(m): 3:20pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
Understand Divine protocols God came out of God and made a declaration of the first Begotten. Jn1:12 made us to understand that we are also begotten of God that makes us sons of God Anything that comes out of the Almighty does not make it less of the Almighty. Out of the Almighty God came out an Almighty He termed His Son. Even in logic, positive plus positive is positive. Nothing less, nothing more. OnPointMan: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by OnPointMan(m): 5:00pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
Pusyiter: So to you anything that comes out of onething is thesame as the thing it came out of? This your logic make sense die. Lol. For your information positive is different from positive +1 and +2 are not thesame bro. |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by Emusan(m): 5:29pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
OnPointMan: So funny!!! Do you think because the scripture says Jesus is the begotten son of God that's why, He was called God? Just as someone has asked from above which you couldn't answer but stylishly boycotted. How can Jesus says: "That ALL MEN should honor the Son, even AS THEY HONOR the Father" So my point to you is this: How do you honor The Father? Jesus says you should do it the very same way for Him. Or you don't believe this scripture? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by Emusan(m): 5:40pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
OnPointMan: You see your life You use David as a case study and different questions were thrown to you, you couldn't attempt just one but attacking strawman arguments! |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by Nobody: 6:05pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
OnPointMan:Hey bro. What's up? I think you're err greatly equating David to Jesus, even though you don't believe Jesus was the Almighty God, because this was what David himself said of Jesus: Psalms 110:1 (KJV) The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. Now you can clearly see that David called Him his Lord, so he cannot be accorded the same status as Jesus. And also through this saying of David, you can distinguish the difference between God and His only begotten Son and thereby get what my opinion is of the Holy Two. For I think Jesus is God and Lord, but not God Almighty and LORD for Jesus Himself said, "My Father is greater than I"{John 14:8}, so someone greater than He was could not the same as Him even though they are One. A similar saying to that of David is this of John: John 1:1 (KJV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. So the Word which was also God was with God Almighty. God Bless. 1 Like |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by OnPointMan(m): 6:29pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
jesusjnr: Thankyou very much bro. I agree with you totally. 1 Like |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by OnPointMan(m): 6:31pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
Emusan: Do you mean that the Almighty was flogged and nailed to the cross. Wouldn't that be ridiculous? 1 Like |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by Emusan(m): 6:53pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
You can see how you stylishly boycotted my point and jump to cover it with a ridiculous question. OnPointMan: That's why I use to say most people who fight against Trinity lack the understanding of it. The question I asked you and as well were asked by the other person clarified it. This is my point: The New Testament writers would have greatly projected a polytheistic view of God if Trinity doctrine was not adopted. Why? According to human perception of God: God is a Creator and Eternal being. Looking at it from this angle, you'll definitely see it from the scripture especially the NT that three difference persons were said to be Creator and Eternal. The Father The Word of God (Who became man) The Holy Spirit. That's why those questions you were asked pointed solely to what make God, God! Yet were said to be found in Jesus. So your question seems like a ridicule rather than scriptural fact which is evident that you don't know when the scripture was talking about Christ before He became part of creation and after He entered the creation. |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by OpenYourEyes1: 7:18pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
Preciousgirl: I love number 10 and 17. Well done sister! 1 Like |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by bingbagbo(m): 7:42pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
OnPointMan: Oh so you believe Jesus is Lord?. Psalm 18:31 For who is God besides the LORD? And who is the Rock except our God? 1 Corinthians 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. By the way, kindly answer precious girls 20 questions above, thank you. |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by Nobody: 9:48pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
OnPointMan: The phrase "Only begotten son" means the only person DIRECTLY created by God! Proverbs 8:22 All other creatures were made through a craftsman {Proverbs 8:30} who was taking instructions from a greater Person! 1Corinthians 15: 27-28 What confused most readers is the rendering of John 1:1, which had various renderings. But since most Churchgoers are following the traditional teachings of the TRINITY it becomes a problem for them to resolve the big issue! Jesus WAS a God just as Moses WAS a God, the only difference here is while Jesus has been faithfully and loyally serving his God {John 20:17} right from the time he existed as a spirit being, Moses served under the direction of same God as a smaller God only during his time in Egypt! Exodus 7:1 There is nowhere in the Bible where Jesus directly referred to himself as God Almighty, he is always referred to as a mighty God {Isaiah 9:6} and other spirit sons of God were also referred to as Gods and Mighty Psalm 82:1 Jesus always does whatever his God/Father wishes, so if you've been with Jesus in the flesh, examining his thoughts, listening to his words, watching his actions and reactions towards everything, surely you're seeing exactly what Jesus' father {the Almighty God} would have done had it been he is here in person! John 14:9-10 compared to 1Corinthians 2:16 2 Likes |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by Nobody: 10:13pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
OnPointMan: Did you call me out to argue or to know the truth. If it's to argue count me out. |
Re: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by Janosky: 10:54pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
bingbagbo: Gbagbo liar ! A name or title ascribed to different individuals NEVER means they are one and the same person. For instance, Mary, Pharaoh, Elishama, Saul etc |
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