Roland17:
I am going to end my own argument by stating that the 98/99 cruciate ligament rupture that is being used to make excuses for Del Piero is the same cruciate ligament injury Totti suffered in 07/08. Guess what? They suffered the injury on the same knee, with Totti's even more severe but somehow Totti rehabbed better and spent 112 days while Del Piero spent 234 days. So what is the excuse now?

Speaking about injuries, Del Piero spent 316 days injured in comparison to Totti who spent 583 injured and out of the game. Totti suffered more injuries on different parts of his body in comparison to Del Piero whose injury history is limited.

https://www.transfermarkt.us/francesco-totti/verletzungen/spieler/5958
https://www.transfermarkt.us/alessandro-del-piero/verletzungen/spieler/4289

I can not continue to argue based on subjective points only when they favor Del Piero.

Great debate @A40, you always have my respect baba.

It's all good bruv. And vice versa at all times.

The purpose of debate is to try to diminish the opposing person's feat as much as you can within legal limits.

So even you yourself admit Del Piero required more time to rehab which means perhaps what he was dealing with transcended Totti's situation. People recover differently and it's not all players that return to the same levels they were before.

There is also a massive time lapse/vacuum in that your list. Unless you're telling me Del Piero did not miss any time through injury for 11 straight seasons then some thing is not quite right with that your list

My point is the height of Del Piero and the little he was able to accomplish after shows that no thanks to injury we would never be able to know just how good he could have been but still he did enough to outrank Totti

Amoto94:
When elders are having a discussion you just sit and watch. My contribution is the little I watch of Totti he's better than Del Piero his records in Serie A speaks for him.

Del piero was better than Totti. Totti was there, he didn’t do extra ordinary in the game like Del piero.

Anybody who thinks Ronaldo De Lima was or is overrated is a clown...


Ronaldo and Maradona are the players that have the same talent level as Mesi, they can score, dribble, assist and had strength on the.ball. Ronaldinho is close too.

spillo1:

De Lima is the real Ronaldo. Any other Ronaldo na counterfeit.

Cr7 is greater than Ronaldo de Lima but the later is/was more talented than the former.

elrony:


Better career; yes.

Better player?...De Lima is the Greatest Of All Time, see that haircut ffs !!!

Better career - Ororo by a country mile

Better season - Ororo had matched de Lima ' best season (which was more an one off for him) many times in his career.

Better absolute peak (as in take their best ever games) - Ororo

Achievement and record: Ororo

afrodoc:
De Lima Ronaldo is the greatest pure no9 in modern football, and it is not even close at all.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FFCqP8nTTw

aguero and suarez matched what ever ronaldo ever did

honorable mention: zlatan

Kimbeast:

Totti’s career can be split into two parts, before ankle injury (1993-2005) and after injury (2006-2017). He clearly was never the same player after, he changed from a world class 10 into a good forward.

Like Ibime has rightly pointed out to you. Del Piero's prime was at a time when Serie A was in it's Golden Age. When Inter was loaded and Milan were relevant both home and abroad. 23 year old Del Piero was already in Balon D'or picture and to an extent led or was an important contributor to Juventus getting to 3 straight CL Finals. All at 23!!!

Kimbeast:

Totti From 2000-2004 was as good as any other player on the planet. Madrid went for him twice but he refused. Del Piero at his best was nearly as good as Ronaldo. Totti was right up there with Zidane and Dinho during those period. Del Piero was simply not as gifted, nor was his peak anywhere near as long, as Totti's.
He was a star man in vastly superior sides though. Totti carried Roma to a league title in 2001, and came within only 1 point of Juventus in 2002. Then he carried a relatively poor Roma side to another title challenge in 2004. This was around the time when Serie A was arguably the best league in the world.

Totti right up there with Zidane and Dinho?? This has to be a joke surely.

Carried Roma indeed. Where did you throw Batistuta? That Roma squad were not a squad of bums like you're trying to paint here

Did you really just say 00/01? Seems you have forgotten Roma had Angel Gabriel. Gabriel Batistuta in Roma's title winning season where he dropped 20 goals. Vincenzo Montella was also on that team. What are you talking about?

And that 01/02 season you speak of. Totti missed 10 games. His total contributions were 8 goals and 1 assist. So I would like you to explain how a player who only scored 8 out of his team's 58 goals and created just 1 assist can be said to have carried the team.

And sorry but by the early noughties La Liga had already overtaken Serie A as the strongest league in Europe.

Kimbeast:

The one big criticism of Totti was his inconsistent international career even at that he is still a superior player to Del piero who was lucky to have played in a world class team

Fa fa fa foul. Roma had a decent squad and were not nearly as bad as you are trying to claim. It could even be argued that Roma underachieved based on the talent available.

Del Piero on the other hand played key roles in all his team's successes and in his prime led Juve to the top of European football. This dwarfs any achievements of Totti

Ibime:


What is this one saying? Ronaldo 1990s form was above any height Zidane and Ronaldinho reached. Good grief.

BTW, Totti never competed on Ronaldinho level. When Totti was in his prime, he was never in contention on World level. Ronaldinho and co saw competition in Sheva, Lampard, Gerrard,.Kaka et al who ran the 2000s, not no Totti. God forbid, I would be the no10 in a World Cup winning side and they totally overlook me and crown a bloody centre back like Cannavaro with no mention of my name.

Totti was a local champion during the decline of Serie.A. The height of SerieA was late 80s to late 90s. Serie A were whipping boys in 2000s with the exception of Milan.

We can smell your inexperience,.and know that you missed the 1990s from this post. Being close to Ronaldo in the late 90s is the closest thing to God level.

This is not dem say, dem say. DelPiero played with Zidane throughout late 90s and Zidane was 2nd fiddle to DelPiero throughout.


Young niggas/ God keep me from.these young niggas/
Not the smart ones Lord, just the. . . .



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxAuo8XAXCk

Nothing else I wan add to this. Totti was highly overrated

sod09:
aguero and suarez matched what ever ronaldo ever did

honorable mention: zlatan

Agüero and Suarez?
You got jokes.

sod09:
aguero and suarez matched what ever ronaldo ever did

honorable mention: zlatan

U can also throw Benzema and Harry Kane into the mix as well...

YouTube highlights are actually terrible for rating players.

Watch the YouTube highlights for Lukaku and Lingard and you would think they were the best things since sliced bread.

wman:
YouTube highlights are actually terrible for rating players.

Watch the YouTube highlights for Lukaku and Lingard and you would think they were the best things since sliced bread.

Same for statistics too when arguing football.

Statistics are like bikinis. They show you a hint of what lies underneath but they do not show you the real deal.

Someone said that Totti was up there with Dinho and Zz while another one said that Aguero and Suarez have matched whatever R9 ever did. Hmmmm interesting, today must be world retard day

Coutinho14:
Someone said that Totti was up there with Dinho and and Zz while another one said that Aguero and Suarez have matched whatever R9 ever did. Hmmmm interesting, today must be world retard day

Melvyn11:
Cristiano wins at everything. Ronaldo is looked back on with a lot of nostalgia, romanticism and "what could have been", plus football fans tend to be overly fond of players who are incredibly gifted with the ball at their feet because they're fun to watch, but in terms of having a positive impact on games peak Cristiano was the better player.


He has also had a career that's twice as impressive as Delima Ronaldo, if not more.

Agree with the last part about their career achievements.

However, Delima’s injuries won’t affect him so severely to have derailed his career were he to be playing in the current climes. He won’t get injured that much either.

afrodoc:
De Lima Ronaldo is the greatest pure no9 in modern football, and it is not even close at all.

I like what you did there, even though I would argue that Ronaldo was probably the first big striker in the modern era to NOT be a pure number 9.

How youTube watchers will confidently form an opinion of a player from few highlights is outrageous

Comparing De Lima to any of the pvssies you call a number 9 is blasphemy.

You youtubers should know when to shut it ffs please!

Leyqute:


Agree with the last part about their career achievements.

However, Delima’s injuries won’t affect him so severely to have derailed his career were he to be playing in the current climes. He won’t get injured that much either.

Over 80% of the players today won't survive the type of tackles those guys were collecting back then.

diggz:
How youTube watchers will confidently form an opinion of a player from few highlights is outrageous

Comparing De Lima to any of the pvssies you call a number 9 is blasphemy.

You youtubers should know when to shut it ffs please!

Comparing delima to ororo is also blasphemy.

De lima doesn't even own his own first name. Type Ronaldo into Google, and de lima doesn't even show up on the first page of your phone. You have to scroll down to see him


Ororo is the greatest striker in the history of this round leather game.

That Roma squad had prime Cafu and also had Walter Samuel in defense. That's the team una dey call average. Make una dey fear God oh

nihilistjnr:


Comparing delima to ororo is also blasphemy.

De lima doesn't even own his own first name. Type Ronaldo into Google, and de lima doesn't even show up on the first page of your phone. You have to scroll down to see him


Ororo is the greatest striker in the history of this round leather game.

I saw names like aguero,benzema,zlatan, suarez and co flying around which is the reason for my post.

If C.Ronaldo likes he should trade mark the name Ronaldo that's his personal headache. I'll pick de lima over him anyday,everyday!

I don't know about Ororo being the greatest ever, when there's still a messi he's dying to be greater than.

U

diggz:


Over 80% of the players today won't survive the type of tackles those guys were collecting back then.

My point exactly. Look at how they were contributing legs for Ronaldo in that clip afrodoc shared. Tackle Messi like that for a season and his career will be over in no time.

Apart from that, there has been significant advances in medical science that has impacted sports and boosted the strength and longevity of athletes careers.

Ronaldo9 is an extremely talented individual. I still remember how he singlehandedly took Madrid past United by scoring a hattrick at Old Trafford in 2003. Got a standing ovation from Utd fans.

And he was a bit overweight then and past his peak.

Had Messi and Ororo played in Serie A in the 90s where those devil-incarnate defenders were reigning in those days, we won't be talking about 10 Balon d or today.

Serie A was the burial ground of great strikers like De Lima, Batistuta, Piero, Trezeguet, et al.

Coutinho14:
Someone said that Totti was up there with Dinho and Zz while another one said that Aguero and Suarez have matched whatever R9 ever did. Hmmmm interesting, today must be world retard day

Effect of raumdeuter

hensben:
Effect of rumdeuter

Another of my Stans that must just mention me

diggz:


I saw names like aguero,benzema,zlatan, suarez and co flying around which is the reason for my post.

If C.Ronaldo likes he should trade mark the name Ronaldo that's his personal headache. I'll pick de lima over him anyday,everyday!

I don't know about Ororo being the greatest ever, when there's still a messi he's dying to be greater than

O ti yé e

raumdeuter:


Another of my Stans that must just mention me

you know when 2 stupid people are having a romance the bed suffers. That idiot and his partner are better off ignored

FBS:

diggz dirty pass anything you could think of.

All we want is for your brother to join you in Russia Balogun. We're tired if seeing his afro bros

wman:
YouTube highlights are actually terrible for rating players.

Watch the YouTube highlights for Lukaku and Lingard and you would think they were the best things since sliced bread.

Ororo and de Lima are not mates. People don't want to face facts. De Lima was injury prone that's his business so don't not compare him to Ororo who has been top of football for more than 12yrs telling us if this and if that. Some people are discussing which one was better at football, others are discussing which one was better at capturing their imagination.

Melvyn11:


Better career - Ororo by a country mile

Better season - Ororo had matched de Lima ' best season (which was more an one off for him) many times in his career.

Better absolute peak (as in take their best ever games) - Ororo

Achievement and record: Ororo

You're right.

Sometimes it's good to read signatures on each profile.... saves local man headaches

afrodoc:
De Lima Ronaldo is the greatest pure no9 in modern football, and it is not even close at all.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FFCqP8nTTw

imagine say chelsea get this kind striker now or for the past few years