afrodoc2:


Most of them are being cured of their ignorance slowly. Only the proud ones are still proving stubborn.

Lol imagine a Hazard fan saying Hazard is now looking like an ordinary player.

Hehehehe

They are insufferable, wait till Hazard scores 1 goal even if na penalty and you will see them out of the woodwork

monerozi5590:
Mourinho on Chelsea: "When you start accepting defeats just because your team played well and just because your players gave their best, a performance for people to be proud of… I think when you get used to it, that’s when the big clubs stop being big clubs."

Harsh? �


Mourinho though! Lol

No wonder this one doesn't have a job. So we should be parking bus and be losing.

We are always one hazard away from winning this Liverpool under lampard.



I miss Eden Hazard everyday in this new team.

Obere4u:
Injuries will be our greatest nightmare...


As per Mourinho words... It's better we give everything and lose than park the bus and still lose...

Klopp subbed his attacks for defence, that alone should tell you that the Liverpool team wasnt spectacular but because Chelsea ain't clinical enough...

The early injuries to 2 of our back 4 didn't us real bad than Liverpool did us....


The game that I will regret us losing is Man Utd...


KTBFFH.... We move on... We learn

@the bolded, it's called proper game management. If Lampard learns how to do that, he will win something.
Klopp discovered that he lost the midfield to Chelsea already, rather than fight to take it back with about 10-12 minutes together, he decided to see the game to the end and protect his 3 points which was more important.

raumdeuter:
Hidden hazard drops another disaster class worst Madrid player on the field while Neymar scores another late winner

actually kroos was our worst player by far hazard physically fragile right now but the dude still contribute defensively at least,if you watch our game with sevilla you won't type this nonsense, just dey follow livescores then start giving analysis like a shit pundit, I don't just understand you guys stupidity and obsession with hazard,he is fast adjusting to the league and team after the injury and transfer its standard for any player(see greixman)but haters are going to hate no matter what.

madrid5:
actually kroos was our worst player by far hazard physically fragile right now but the dude still contribute defensively at least,if you watch our game with sevilla you won't type this nonsense, just dey follow livescores then start giving analysis like a shit pundit, I don't just understand you guys stupidity and obsession with hazard,he is fast adjusting to the league and team after the injury and transfer its standard for any player(see greixman)but haters are going to hate no matter what.

Thank you o.

Raumdeuter and his boys are like that.

timay:


@the bolded, it's called proper game management. If Lampard learns how to do that, he will win something.
Klopp discovered that he lost the midfield to Chelsea already, rather than fight to take it back with about 10-12 minutes together, he decided to see the game to the end and protect his 3 points which was more important.

You don't understand.. What I meant by that is that Chelsea really gave Liverpool a game...

Liverpool we know don't sub 2 of their main strikers for a defender

Obere4u:


You don't understand.. What I meant by that is that Chelsea really gave Liverpool a game...

Liverpool we know don't sub 2 of their main strikers for a defender

And they still lost the game. This was Klopps mistake last season which he has obviously learned from. Games like yesterday will happen once in a while in which you will get dominated, but you have to manage it and get results no matter the way and cost. That is what wins you the league at the end of the season. Liverpool of before would try to regain their superiority in the game , and in the process, conceded another goal and the game would be drawn.
Last season, Man city experienced a lot of this scenarios towards the end of last season, in which after they scored 1 goal, the opposition the closed shop and started pounding them. instead of him to bring in Midfielders or fowards to balance game, he brought in defenders to protect the lead and see off the important 3 points.

madrid5:
actually kroos was our worst player by far hazard physically fragile right now but the dude still contribute defensively at least,if you watch our game with sevilla you won't type this nonsense, just dey follow livescores then start giving analysis like a shit pundit, I don't just understand you guys stupidity and obsession with hazard,he is fast adjusting to the league and team after the injury and transfer its standard for any player(see greixman)but haters are going to hate no matter what.

has anybody ever compared griezmann with messi, ronaldo or even neymar. But some hazard fans won't let us hear word

timay:


@the bolded, it's called proper game management. If Lampard learns how to do that, he will win something.
Klopp discovered that he lost the midfield to Chelsea already, rather than fight to take it back with about 10-12 minutes together, he decided to see the game to the end and protect his 3 points which was more important.

I don't think Liverpool decided to have 25 % possession and sit back willingly. We forced them back with our pressing and intensity. They lost control of the game. It's that simple. And without having control their defence looks shaky and vulnerable. If it was a tactical decision to give up high pressing and concede control, it was a bad one.

timay:


And they still lost the game. This was Klopps mistake last season which he has obviously learned from. Games like yesterday will happen once in a while in which you will get dominated, but you have to manage it and get results no matter the way and cost. That is what wins you the league at the end of the season. Liverpool of before would try to regain their superiority in the game , and in the process, conceded another goal and the game would be drawn.
Last season, Man city experienced a lot of this scenarios towards the end of last season, in which after they scored 1 goal, the opposition the closed shop and started pounding them. instead of him to bring in Midfielders or fowards to balance game, he brought in defenders to protect the lead and see off the important 3 points.

The Liverpool I saw yesterday was nothing special.
Why change tactics when it was working. Intense pressing was working for Liverpool quite well. Note that they didn't change tactics after they scored the 2nd goal but continued to play the same way in the second half up to the 60 min. mark. After that they couldn't press as intensively as before and lost control.

half or even most of Liverpool's defensive solidity is based on their pressing. It protects the back 4 really well. No pressing, no control, and their defence become exposed and shaky.

Kimbeast:


I don't think Liverpool decided to have 25 % possession and sit back willingly. We forced them back with our pressing and intensity. They lost control of the game. It's that simple. And without having control their defence looks shaky and vulnerable. If it was a tactical decision to give up high pressing and concede control, it was a bad one.

It's a tactical decision and not a bad one too if you ask me. The possession got worst after Kante score that one goal and they were likely to score the second, due to Chelsea's determination, if Klopp didn't give himself brain by bringing in defenders to close shop.

Sometimes you have to conceed possession for the greater good(3 points). It is something that Lampard will have to learn on the Job. By the time teams are doing come backs against him, and he's loosing points, he will learn. If wolves hadn't conceed 3 goals in the first half,they sold have done a comeback on him.

Do you think Alex Ferguson won. 18 EPL titles by trying to outplay every team at the expense of a win?

The Liverpool I used to know will be leading 3-0 , before final whistle you will see them playing 3-3 or 4-3, just because they don't usually know when to close shop, instead, the keep pressing high till those ones equalise. Now Klopp has learnt the hard way, I'm sure Lampard will too

snrman:
has anybody ever compared griezmann with messi, ronaldo or even neymar. But some hazard fans won't let us hear word

why how are you sucking neymars dick, is he complaining that people compare hazard to him,while I think neymar is still better it is not a crime to compare hazard/griezman/de bruyne to neymar because neymar is not untouchable,I remember when stupid barca fans said neymar was better than Ronaldo in 2016,did you see Madrid/ronaldo fans like myseft taking about neymar with hopeless and boring obsession like people in this thread for 4 bloody years,these hazards haters are using neymar as an excuse if willian wasn't too stupid I am sure these folks would say he is better than hazard.

Kimbeast:

The Liverpool I saw yesterday was nothing special.
Why change tactics when it was working. Intense pressing was working for Liverpool quite well. Note that they didn't change tactics after they scored the 2nd goal but continued to play the same way in the second half up to the 60 min. mark. After that they couldn't press as intensively as before and lost control.

half or even most of Liverpool's defensive solidity is based on their pressing. It protects the back 4 really well. No pressing, no control, and their defence become exposed and shaky.

Like I said before , things will always go haywire in some matches and things won't go according to plan. Liverpool lost possession after Kante's goal. Liverpool tried to come back into the game to regain control but it didn't work, may be it was the determination of the Chelsea players to do a come back that really spur the Chelsea team after the Kante goal.
Klopp did the best thing after by going for a plan B which is to bring in an extra defender for defensive shifts so as to see off the 3 points. I've seen Alex Ferguson do this Shit a lot of times in the past. Even Man city did it against Burnley and Leicester last season to protect their 1-0 wins. It's one of those games. More so they are playing a big team, and the 3 points is more important than fancy football in this scenario

timay:


It's a tactical decision and not a bad one too if you ask me. The possession got worst after Kante score that one goal and they were likely to score the second, due to Chelsea's determination, if Klopp didn't give himself brain by bringing in defenders to close shop.

Sometimes you have to conceed possession for the greater good(3 points). It is something that Lampard will have to learn on the Job. By the time teams are doing come backs against him, and he's loosing points, he will learn. If wolves hadn't conceed 3 goals in the first half,they sold have done a comeback on him.

Do you think Alex Ferguson won. 18 EPL titles by trying to outplay every team at the expense of a win?

The Liverpool I used to know will be leading 3-0 , before final whistle you will see them playing 3-3 or 4-3, just because they don't usually know when to close shop, instead, the keep pressing high till those ones equalise. Now Klopp has learnt the hard way, I'm sure Lampard will too

I support kimbeast it was a bad decision.
ok what if Chelsea had equalized? Would you still see it as a good decision to concede control.

Swissh:

I support kimbeast it was a bad decision.
ok what if Chelsea had equalized? Would you still see it as a good decision to concede control.

If you know Liverpool 2-3 seasons ago, you will know that the decision was a good one. Liverpool lost a lot of points last season from drawing games from this scenario. Then when Liverpool are leading, and towards the end of the match the opposition starts pressing. Instead of him to bring in a midfielder, Klopp will bring in Milner or Shaqiri or both of them to help the high pressing. At the end of the day , those ones will equalise because he didn't bring in a defender to help the tired defense.

Kimbeast suggestions would have made sense if they were trailing,but I. this case, they needed to protect a lead. Sometimes when you want to be champions, its decision like this that makes the difference.

Mind you, Chelsea also have midfielders that can give any midfield a run for their money. Even in the first half , Liverpool couldn't break Chelsea down from open play , whether midfield or wings. They had to do it from set pieces.

So why waste the golden chance at 3 points by trying to break your opposition midfield that has been resisting breaking since kick off, when you can bring in defenders to see off the game.

timay:


If you know Liverpool 2-3 seasons ago, you will know that the decision was a good one. Liverpool lost a lot of points last season from drawing games from this scenario. Then when Liverpool are leading, and towards the end of the match the opposition starts pressing. Instead of him to bring in a midfielder, Klopp will bring in Milner or Shaqiri or both of them to help the high pressing. At the end of the day , those ones will equalise because he didn't bring in a defender to help the tired defense.

Kimbeast suggestions would have made sense if they were trailing,but I. this case, they needed to protect a lead. Sometimes when you want to be champions, its decision like this that makes the difference.

Mind you, Chelsea also have midfielders that can give any midfield a run for their money. Even in the first half , Liverpool couldn't break Chelsea down from open play , whether midfield or wings. They had to do it from set pieces.

So why waste the golden chance at 3 points by trying to break your opposition midfield that has been resisting breaking since kick off, when you can bring in defenders to see off the game.

I believe klopp decision was the best

This was what lampard would have done agnst Sheffield United but he opted 4 one lanky little rat who neva contributed anything to curb the pressure.

Las las he lost d battle and they equalized..

Greatihex:
I still dont understand the vvd overhype.
He is a good defender, but he is massively overhyped.

Kovacic, Kante and Jorginho can match any midfield. I wonder what airmark was thinking when he said kovacic should not be signed.

Jorginho has the vision, but lacking in accuracy of execution. Now, this is another angle to the vision argument.

If we can just add Fabregas accuracy of execution to Jorginho’s game.

Btw, Tomori is the real deal. Have you now seen the light that Zouma & AC are just average after-all?

Thecassanova:

If we can just add Fabregas accuracy of execution to Jorginho’s game.

Btw, Tomori is the real deal. Have you now seen the light that Zouma & AC are just average after-all?

Zouma was immense yesterday.

Serious Question.


How far do you have to go back in play to rule an offside decision? Nobody would have complained had Azpi goal been given. Football is not science. VAR is ruining the fun factor in football.

monerozi5590:
Mourinho on Chelsea: "When you start accepting defeats just because your team played well and just because your players gave their best, a performance for people to be proud of… I think when you get used to it, that’s when the big clubs stop being big clubs."

Harsh? �


Mourinho though! Lol

He's bloody right....

I was telling a friend that this was how Wenger kept Arsenal in bondage of beautiful football without results for years... He will have 70% possessions but will lose the game at the end.

What mou said is actually deep but real.

Smellymouth:


He's bloody right....

I was telling a friend that this was how Wenger kept Arsenal in bondage of beautiful football without results for years... He will have 70% possessions but will lose the game at the end.

What mou said is actually deep but real.

Those guys were just typing trash to pursue an agenda. Amnesiac fans.

This was the full quote from Mourinho's reaction to Chelsea's defeat yesterday:

"I hope they don't get used to it [losing] - that's the important thing. When you start accepting defeats just because your team play well and your players gave it their best for the people to be proud, in terms of their application and commitment.

"I think when you get used to it, big clubs stop being big clubs. They shouldn't get used to it. It shows people are ready for the season and ready to accept what the season is going to be under a manager who is one of the best professionals I worked with and a potentially top manager.

"The reality of the numbers say Liverpool are 10 points ahead of Chelsea - they aren't going to fight for the title. Let's support the philosophy of giving time for the players and the manager to work together.

"I like their ideas. I think their style of play is being adapted to what football is like nowadays and adapted to the profile of the players they now have. In this moment, they are far away from being able to compete for titles."

This is constructive criticism friends and well-wishers give to their loved ones.

madrid5:
actually kroos was our worst player by far hazard physically fragile right now but the dude still contribute defensively at least,if you watch our game with sevilla you won't type this nonsense, just dey follow livescores then start giving analysis like a shit pundit, I don't just understand you guys stupidity and obsession with hazard,he is fast adjusting to the league and team after the injury and transfer its standard for any player(see greixman)but haters are going to hate no matter what.

Tell them pls. Grown up men behaving like small girls.

snrman:
has anybody ever compared griezmann with messi, ronaldo or even neymar. But some hazard fans won't let us hear word

Nobody compared Hazard to Messi and cr7. You are just too daft to understand the contest they brought in Messi and cr7.

Nateevs, I see absolutely nothing wrong with What Mourinho said, that's perfect punditry up there.

He was very objective and very balanced in his view and certainly undeserving of your vitriol.
I never thought I'll accuse you of letting sentiments becloud your objectivity but clearly you've let your dislike for Mourinho render you incapable of accurately processing his words.

It's simple what he said, yes, time should be given to the manager and team, however, as a big team, never be COMFORTABLE when you lose else you lose the utmost hunger and zeal to remain at the top.

Funny enough, this harkens back to what hazard said recently, he pointed out the core differences between the mentality of two big clubs. While one sees a loss as a disaster, the other simply sees it as a disappointment. Courtois also said something similar few years ago after his switch.
You criticizing mourinhos comment lends credence to what hazard said.

madrid5:
actually kroos was our worst player by far hazard physically fragile right now but the dude still contribute defensively at least,if you watch our game with sevilla you won't type this nonsense, just dey follow livescores then start giving analysis like a shit pundit, I don't just understand you guys stupidity and obsession with hazard,he is fast adjusting to the league and team after the injury and transfer its standard for any player(see greixman)but haters are going to hate no matter what.

How many goals does Griezman have for Barcelona?

So Kroos is to blame now, Not Torress, Mourinho, Morata Costa, Giroud and the entire Chelsea team again now na Kroos

raumdeuter:


How many goals does Griezman have for Barcelona?

So Kroos is to blame now, Not Torress, Mourinho, Morata Costa, Giroud and the entire Chelsea team again now na Kroos

Why would they blame those guys, didn’t Hazard performed well for Chelsea or what. Why are you acting like a small girl on top Hazard matter who don’t even know you exist. Why would you be judging a player that just moved and has played just two official games. You are weird Mann.

2 games

0 goals

0 Assist

2 disaster class


Unto next week we move

airmark:

Thank you o.
Ramdeuter and his boys are like that.

Let us check 5 different rating for the match and see if na ramdeuter talk say Hazard drop disaster for match

https://therealchamps.com/2019/09/23/real-madrid-player-ratings-vs-sevilla-casemiro-dominates-midfield/

https://www.managingmadrid.com/2019/9/22/20878858/player-ratings-sevilla-0-real-madrid-1-2019-la-liga

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1394174/Live/Spain-LaLiga-2019-2020-Sevilla-Real-Madrid

https://www.90min.com/posts/6460853-sevilla-0-1-real-madrid-report-ratings-and-reaction-as-karim-benzema-header-seals-los-blancos-win

These are 5 different rating sites that all agreed that Hazard was one if not the sole worst performer on the field and none of them gave Kroos a lower rating than Hidden

Yeah but lets blame Kroos even blame Morata for being in the same city and causing Hidden to fail

hensben:
Why would they blame those guys, didn’t Hazard performed well for Chelsea or what. Why are you acting like a small girl on top Hazard matter who don’t even know you exist. Why would you be judging a player that just moved and has played just two official games. You are weird Mann.

How many CL finals did Chelsea make with Hazard? and who ws responsible for him never making a CL, Euro or world cup final in his entire career

raumdeuter:


How many CL finals did Chelsea make with Hazard? and who ws responsible for him never making a CL, Euro or world cup final in his entire career

Making final is a team effort. Which one be with Hazard, is Hazard a coach or player.