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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:40pm On Oct 15, 2019
Olulong:



No disrespect o
buh you started this well buh ended it in a Rather nonsensical manner

We just defend and hope on luck??

Like we did against Ukraine ryt??
Let's also not forget this same Ukraine still defeated Portugal with CR7 on the pitch

Or u expect us to play Brazil like they are our mate

Ukraine is not a top team and therefore not a yardstick. They are not in the FIFA top 20. Even Senegal ranks above them.

That they beat Portugal proves nothing, just as it proves nothing that Madagascar beat us.

So like I said earlier, against top teams all we can do is defend deep for 90. minutes and hope on luck.

We are not there yet.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:42pm On Oct 15, 2019
tbaba12345:


I disagree, we outplayed Ukraine for large spells and really should have trashed them properly.

The same Ukraine beat Portugal yesterday.

We love to underrate our team but we are building a very strong side

Here is my response below.




Ukraine is not a top team and therefore not a yardstick. They are not in the FIFA top 20. Even Senegal ranks above them.
That they beat Portugal proves nothing, just as it proves nothing that Madagascar beat us.
So like I said earlier, against top teams all we can do is defend deep for 90. minutes and hope on luck.
We are not there yet.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 11:47pm On Oct 15, 2019
OMANBALA1:


Look, if you like elect the best brains in Nigeria it will amount to waste of time if you dont change the current structure...Nigeria cant work on this present structure but you guys are blinded by tribalism.

Power is too concentrated in the center
I agree
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:47pm On Oct 15, 2019
breezy147:


We are saying the same thing.

Nigeria is not there yet. Our players are young and not yet consistent.

Senegal beat us before the Afcon. Algeria beat us at the Afcon.

2018 world cup is past. This is 2019. Algeria and Senegal topped Africa. Both teams have what it takes to challenge any top team in the world today.

As for us, all we can do for now is defend for 90 minutes and hope on luck.

We are not there yet.

Senegal beat us doesnt mean they are better than us bro

So nigeria doesnt have what it takes to challenge any top team in the world and Senegal and algeria have right?

Sorry me and you are not saying the same thing, you are speaking of defending for 90 minutes, have you even watch senegal play?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:49pm On Oct 15, 2019
breezy147:


Ukraine is not a top team and therefore not a yardstick. They are not in the FIFA top 20. Even Senegal ranks above them.

That they beat Portugal proves nothing, just as it proves nothing that Madagascar beat us.

So like I said earlier, against top teams all we can do is defend deep for 90. minutes and hope on luck.

We are not there yet.

Ukraine beat portugal proves nothing , thats true

But senegal beating us proves something according to you and also algeria? Lol

You quoted me and said so, incase you will try to deny, dont bother

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Olulong(m): 11:56pm On Oct 15, 2019
breezy147:


Ukraine is not a top team and therefore not a yardstick. They are not in the FIFA top 20. Even Senegal ranks above them.

That they beat Portugal proves nothing, just as it proves nothing that Madagascar beat us.

So like I said earlier, against top teams all we can do is defend deep for 90. minutes and hope on luck.

We are not there yet.

So based on your point we are also ranked higher than Algeria so them beating us also proves nothing.

The same Ukraine is 8 points above Portugal on the qualifying table and you are saying beating them proves nothing

So according to you Senegal didn't defend against Brazil abi, they went all out and Dominated the game like Spain or Germany??

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:57pm On Oct 15, 2019
andrew444:


Senegal beat us doesnt mean they are better than us bro

So nigeria doesnt have what it takes to challenge any top team in the world and Senegal and algeria have right?

Sorry me and you are not saying the same thing, you are speaking of defending for 90 minutes, have you even watch senegal play?

Senegal have world class players. On paper they are better than us. We've played them twice recently and both times they had an edge over us. (The first time was a draw we managed to come back from by a penalty)

No point arguing about that. They are better than us. Likewise Algeria.

The problem is that many of you are so much excited with the prospect of our team that you have been blinded to reality.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 12:07am On Oct 16, 2019
Olulong:


So based on your point we are also ranked higher than Algeria so them beating us also proves nothing.

The same Ukraine is 8 points above Portugal on the qualifying table and you are saying beating them proves nothing

So according to you Senegal didn't defend against Brazil abi, they went all out and Dominated the game like Spain or Germany??


Algeria beat Senegal twice this year. And they just beat Colombia. That proves something.

Ukraine beating Portugal (With C Ronaldo) just once proves nothing until they replicate this feat consistently. Until then, Ukraine is not a yardstick and that we beat them does not mean we have arrived.


Senegal did not defend deep like we did. They have Mane and others.

Who do we have?


Until we arrive, let's accept that for now all we can do is defend deep against any top team like we did against Brazil and escaped with a draw.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 12:13am On Oct 16, 2019
andrew444:

Ukraine beat portugal proves nothing , thats true
But senegal beating us proves something according to you and also algeria? Lol
You quoted me and said so, incase you will try to deny, dont bother
Yes.
Senegal edged us twice. Algeria beat Senegal twice, beat every team in AFCON and just beat Colombia.
That proves something.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Olulong(m): 12:24am On Oct 16, 2019
breezy147:



Algeria beat Senegal twice this year. And they just beat Colombia. That proves something.

Ukraine beating Portugal (With C Ronaldo) just once proves nothing until they replicate this feat consistently. Until then, Ukraine is not a yardstick and that we beat them does not mean we have arrived.


Senegal did not defend deep like we did. They have Mane and others.

Who do we have?


Until we arrive, let's accept that for now all we can do is defend deep against any top team like we did against Brazil and escaped with a draw.

Ukraine have been consistent maybe you've not been following them. They are yet to lose for about a year now,and had not conceeded in about 5 games b4 facing us (and that run included keeping a clean sheet against this same Portugal in Lisbon). So they've been consistent and using rankings to judge how good a team isn't Right at all like u said Senegal lost twice to Algeria who are 28 places below them in the FIFA ranking. So u trying to discredit our performance against Ukraine by saying they are not ranked as high as Senegal is wrong. We played against an inform team and we put up a good performance.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 12:31am On Oct 16, 2019
tbaba12345:


Nah, Iwobi is critical to how we play. We have no other creative midfielder.

Even though, he had an average game against Brazil, he still created the best chance with Osimhen in the first.
Baba, Yes! when playing less superior opposition he should start.
What I know is that Etebo will not sit on the bench in Rohr's era for Iwobi.
Having Iwobi coming into games in the second half should be our secret weapon.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba12345: 12:37am On Oct 16, 2019
fabyom:

Baba, Yes! when playing less superior opposition he should start.
What I know is that Etebo will not sit on the bench in Rohr's era for Iwobi.
Having Iwobi coming into games in the second half should be our secret weapon.

I disagree.

Etebo is not as creative as Iwobi.. When Iwobi is on form, he is our best offensive player as everything goes through him. Against Ukraine, everything collapsed when Iwobi was removed.

Even against Brazil, we suffered going forward because Iwobi was not playing well.

We will struggle to create without Iwobi. I think Ebere Eze is the only player that can replace him now

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 12:39am On Oct 16, 2019
breezy147:


Senegal have world class players. On paper they are better than us. We've played them twice recently and both times they had an edge over us. (The first time was a draw we managed to come back from by a penalty)

No point arguing about that. They are better than us. Likewise Algeria.

The problem is that many of you are so much excited with the prospect of our team that you have been blinded to reality.



Senegal played with their full squad.
We had 3 first team players out.
There was a time in the game we camped Brazil in their half.
What we lacked was quality substitute. Our players tired out cos the weather situation was above 30 degrees in the second half.
Senegal scored through a fortunate penalty.
So what's your point exactly.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 12:46am On Oct 16, 2019
tbaba12345:


I disagree.

Etebo is not as creative as Iwobi.. When Iwobi is on form, he is our best offensive player as everything goes through him. Against Ukraine, everything collapsed when Iwobi was removed.

Even against Brazil, we suffered going forward because Iwobi was not playing well.

We will struggle to create without Iwobi. I think Ebere Eze is the only player that can replace him now
Aribo will move forward to support Oshimen while Etebo and Ndidi shield the defence.
We don't need Iwobi's creativity with Aribo's and Oshimen's movement.
Etebo and Ndidi just need to move the ball forward faster to our pacing wingers and with Aribo's and Oshimen's movement and runs, we should be able to destroy any team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba12345: 12:53am On Oct 16, 2019
fabyom:

Aribo will move forward to support Oshimen while Etebo and Ndidi shield the defence.
We don't need Iwobi's creativity with Aribo's and Oshimen's movement.
Etebo and Ndidi just need to move the ball forward faster to our pacing wingers and with Aribo's and Oshimen's movement and runs, we should be able to destroy any team.

Aribo is a runner not a creator. He is not the player to create chances for you, Iwobi is. Iwobi created the most chances for Arsenal last season. Ndidi and Etebo are not the players to pick out passes to the wings. They are hard workers.

You need people running off the wingers.. Aribo does not give you that. Iwobi did that for the goal against South Africa at the AFCON and against Ukraine.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 1:24am On Oct 16, 2019
jihday:
My own conclusion is if you can just leave the country, hard work isn't rewarded in Nigeria
And then who's going to fix it?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:24am On Oct 16, 2019
fabyom:

Senegal played with their full squad.
We had 3 first team players out.
There was a time in the game we camped Brazil in their half.
What we lacked was quality substitute. Our players tired out cos the weather situation was above 30 degrees in the second half.
Senegal scored through a fortunate penalty.
So what's your point exactly.

Senegal fared better than us in the game. They took the game to Brazil. The ball possession was almost equal for both teams. and shots was 11 : 10 unlike ours.

As for us, the game could have ended 5 - 1 to Brazil. They hit the bar twice!

Now who are the world class players we missed in the game that could have made a difference? Samuel Kalu or etebo? grin


Conclusion: We overate our team. In Africa we are steeply behind Algeria and Senegal. However we are good prospects for the future.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:24am On Oct 16, 2019
You are deluded by thinking that what makes a good team his the arrays of stars in the team.

Are you sure you watched the Brazil vs Senegal friendly? The only meaningful attack the Senegalese had in the encounter resulted to the penalty.

The defended all day and were very physical and robust.

Make sure you have your facts right before writing trash.
breezy147:



Algeria beat Senegal twice this year. And they just beat Colombia. That proves something.

Ukraine beating Portugal (With C Ronaldo) just once proves nothing until they replicate this feat consistently. Until then, Ukraine is not a yardstick and that we beat them does not mean we have arrived.


Senegal did not defend deep like we did. They have Mane and others.

Who do we have?


Until we arrive, let's accept that for now all we can do is defend deep against any top team like we did against Brazil and escaped with a draw.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:30am On Oct 16, 2019
Why didn't they create anything meaningful to score instead of getting a pk? U re just biased and pained that Rohr and his boys didn't lose the match so that u will have a reason to jeck off.

" I told you people" crew member
breezy147:


Senegal fared better than us in the game. They took the game to Brazil. The ball possession was almost equal for both teams. and shots was 11 : 10 unlike ours.

As for us, the game could have ended 5 - 1 to Brazil. They hit the bar twice!

Now who are the world class players we missed in the game that could have made a difference? Samuel Kalu or etebo? grin


Conclusion: We overate our team. In Africa we are steeply behind Algeria and Senegal. However we are good prospects for the future.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 1:32am On Oct 16, 2019
TheSuperNerd:
My brother... I am beginning to have some doubts about them but let me stay strong.

The team lost to Sao Paulo U-18 in a friendly shaa... 2-1.

They will play Korea in another friendly on the 16th.

The likes of Ubani, Fawaz, Amoo and Tijani are still genuinely exciting talents we hope go on to be stars.


Chai

I really don't know anything about the boys at all
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:33am On Oct 16, 2019
charlesemeka85:
You are deluded by thinking that what makes a good team his the arrays of stars in the team.

Are you sure you watched the Brazil vs Senegal friendly? The only meaningful attack the Senegalese had in the encounter resulted to the penalty.

The defended all day and were very physical and robust.

Make sure you have your facts right before writing trash.

Here (attached below), facts speak louder than noise. grin

Senegal took the game to Brazil! You should be the one to be asked if you indeed watched the game.


Now at the bolded, more often than not, that is the case. Having a star studded team or a world class player on your team cannot be over emphasized. Players like Ronaldo score hat tricks to qualify their team.

You forgot so soon who dumped you out of AFCON?

Mahrez did! .........not the Algerian TEAM. grin

To stand a chance at being world beaters we need world class players! Until then, like I say...we keep defending deep and hoping on luck.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:37am On Oct 16, 2019
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Abusule007:
So you want govt to ban eating of peppered kponmo? Abeg ooo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:37am On Oct 16, 2019
Bleep off and go to bed
breezy147:


Here (attached below), facts speak louder than noise. grin

Senegal took the game to Brazil! You should be the one to be asked if you indeed watched the game.


Now at the bolded, more often than not, that is the case. Having a star studded team or a world class player on your team cannot be over emphasized. Players like Ronaldo score hat tricks to qualify their team.

You forgot so soon who dumped you out of AFCON?

Mahrez did! .........not the Algerian TEAM. grin

To stand a chance at being world beaters we need world class players! Until then, like I say...we keep defending deep and hoping on luck.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 1:40am On Oct 16, 2019
breezy147:


Yes.

Senegal edged us twice.
Algeria beat Senegal twice, beat every team in AFCON and just beat Colombia.

That proves something.


Just as Madagascar won us and better than us
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 1:41am On Oct 16, 2019
breezy147:


Senegal have world class players. On paper they are better than us. We've played them twice recently and both times they had an edge over us. (The first time was a draw we managed to come back from by a penalty)

No point arguing about that. They are better than us. Likewise Algeria.

The problem is that many of you are so much excited with the prospect of our team that you have been blinded to reality.




I think you are the one blinded with sentiment

You can’t just give a reasonable point

No need wasting my time with you
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:42am On Oct 16, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Bleep off and go to bed

Well you can't argue against the stats can you? grin grin grin grin

Sweet dreams.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:45am On Oct 16, 2019
andrew444:


Just as Madagascar won us and better than us

Madagascar are not as good as we are. They most likely cannot repeat that feat against us.

Sorry to puncture your ego but Algeria can beat us again. Twice we have been unable to beat Senegal. They are both better than us. This shouldn't even be a debate. They have better players than we do.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 2:12am On Oct 16, 2019
somehow:


To balance this means we need more entrepreneurs. I hope you can deduce this now or who will employ the 15 million + afrobear?
Toh, how this relates to my post on "balancing expectation", I can't tell.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 2:20am On Oct 16, 2019
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 2:34am On Oct 16, 2019
tbaba12345:


I have a clipper at home so I usually do it myself. My clipper cost $20 and each haircut is $20. I have only been to the barber shop like once this year.

Correct man, na that level I dey sef. I come get 3 boys, na me and my wife be barber.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 3:09am On Oct 16, 2019
breezy147:


Senegal fared better than us in the game. They took the game to Brazil. The ball possession was almost equal for both teams. and shots was 11 : 10 unlike ours.

As for us, the game could have ended 5 - 1 to Brazil. They hit the bar twice!

Now who are the world class players we missed in the game that could have made a difference? Samuel Kalu or etebo? grin


Conclusion: We overate our team. In Africa we are steeply behind Algeria and Senegal. However we are good prospects for the future.
Who are Senegal's world class players that are better than ours?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 3:14am On Oct 16, 2019
tbaba12345:


Aribo is a runner not a creator. He is not the player to create chances for you, Iwobi is. Iwobi created the most chances for Arsenal last season. Ndidi and Etebo are not the players to pick out passes to the wings. They are hard workers.

You need people running off the wingers.. Aribo does not give you that. Iwobi did that for the goal against South Africa at the AFCON and against Ukraine.
Alright, BABA!

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