Ken4Christ:


You should be concerned about yourself and not Adam and Eve. Forget about the argument they give you in your Kingdom hall and read the entire Bible. Only a dishonest person will say there is no hell. The evidences of the scripture are so overwhelming that I have a whole book on it. You have been brainwashed and you can't reason straight again. It will be too late when you get in and you will remember how foolish you were.

Ken4Christ:


My friend, all these questions are uncalled for. Save your own soul and let God be the judge. Just read chapter by chapter, verse by verse gospel according to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and come back and tell me there is no hell. Even Lucifer believes and trembles. Run for your life and stop going to Jehovah witness whose founder was recently seen suffering in hell because of his false teachings.

Maximus69:


Is it for going to Jehovah's Witnesses that God will punish people, or their WORKS? Matthew 7:15-20

Jesus said it's people's works that will bring judgment on them Sir NOT because their not going to your own choice of Churches ?

If your Church is for Jesus, there are works that they must be doing now, and throughout the world it must be yielding fine FRUITS! James 2:18-26

All these will not make any sense to you since it's one of Jehovah's witnesses that's typing and quoting it for you. I'm sure you won't even check your Bible to crosscheck if it's true or false {Act 17:11} All you're thinking now is to see people been tormented inside burning furnace just because they're not following your choice of religious leaders! Jeremiah 7:31

God's pronouncement to the first couple is "you will return to dust, for dust you are to dust you will return" Genesis 3:19

@Romans 6:23 we read "the wages that sin pays is death"

So instead of stubbornly sticking to the translation of those misinformed Churchgoers, why not make a research for yourself to know exactly what they mistranslated to HELLFIRE?

Well my advice to you is to make the research on those four gospel accounts, NOT just reading one translation but comparing all the available translations and crosschecking the meaning of each Hebrew and Greek texts in the encyclopedia.

God is not burning anyone in fire Sir, it's either you live FOREVER or die FOREVER! Romans 6:23

Maximus69:


Is it for going to Jehovah's Witnesses that God will punish people, or their WORKS? Matthew 7:15-20

Jesus said it's people's works that will bring judgment on them Sir NOT because their not going to your own choice of Churches ?

If your Church is for Jesus, there are works that they must be doing now, and throughout the world it must be yielding fine FRUITS! James 2:18-26

All these will not make any sense to you since it's one of Jehovah's witnesses that's typing and quoting it for you. I'm sure you won't even check your Bible to crosscheck if it's true or false {Act 17:11} All you're thinking now is to see people been tormented inside burning furnace just because they're not following your choice of religious leaders! Jeremiah 7:31

God's pronouncement to the first couple is "you will return to dust, for dust you are to dust you will return" Genesis 3:19

@Romans 6:23 we read "the wages that sin pays is death"

So instead of stubbornly sticking to the translation of those misinformed Churchgoers, why not make a research for yourself to know exactly what they mistranslated to HELLFIRE?

Well my advice to you is to make the research on those four gospel accounts, NOT just reading one translation but comparing all the available translations and crosschecking the meaning of each Hebrew and Greek texts in the encyclopedia.

God is not burning anyone in fire Sir, it's either you live FOREVER or die FOREVER! Romans 6:23

Janosky:


*** 1Thess5:21

King James Bible
"PROVE ALL THINGS ; hold fast that which is
good."

**
ken4Christ is very DISHONEST !
You came to Nairaland to make a mockery of yourself.
ken4Christ just dey yarn okpata !
* You must know where you're coming from before you know your final destination....
***
Ken wey no brainwash, wey know entire Bible well well,
Answer these questions ,you dey dodge....
@1)
Na where Lazarus tell you say him dey
enjoy before Jesus resurrected him?

@2
Where the scriptures that Adam and
Eve were tortured in hellfire?
@3
Or Sodom and Gomorrah were tortured
in hellfire?
**

Ken4Christ:


*@1)
Have you honestly read every scripture that deals with eternal judgment and you conclude it doesn't teach about eternal torment for lost souls? While do you want prove that Adam and Eve was tortured before you believe over a hundred verses that points to eternal torment?

@**ii)
Am I the one that wrote verses of scriptures that clearly points to eternal place of destruction? Or you want to pretend you don't know any of such scriptures?

*@iii
You are wicked and your punishment will be worse than that of the devil himself.

Ken4Christ:


This is where the deception started. A loving God cannot burn people with fire.

Please answer these questions
1. Was he not a loving God when he destroyed the world with flood during Noah's time? A loving God should not also drown his children in water. But he did. Was he wicked then?
Genesis 7:12-24.

2. A loving God should not have destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah with fire. But he did. Was he wicked then? Genesis 19:24-25.

3. Why did a loving God sent serpent to bite the Jews when they murmured against Him and Moses. No loving father should do that. Numbers 21:6.

4. Why would a loving God commanded that the young man caught gathering sticks on a Sabbath day be stoned to death? I don't think you can do that to your own children. But God did it. Would you say he is wicked? Numbers 15:32 - 36.

I can sight many more instances God judged people in ways we can't do that to our children. So please, tell me, if God could do all these, what is the difference between it and those who will be tormented in hell fire?

Maximus69:


This is where you failed woefully Sir!

He destroys those making life unbearable for his faithful and obedient servants! Psalm 37:9-11

He never kept them somewhere so that they continue crying for all eternity!

As for his laws, he established it with the Israelites as a covenant between him and that race. Jehovah's Witnesses today still have the same kind of rule but in a different form.

Anyone that's guilty of grievous sins will be reproved or disfellowshiped. No greetings, no eating with such persons, so in other words they've been stoned to death spiritually speaking. 1Corinthians 5:11-13
The difference now is that such persons have the grace to return with heartfelt repentance so that God's people welcome them back again as if they're resurrecting in a spiritual sense! James 5:14-15

Adam, Eve, Cain, Nimrod, Pharaoh, Goliath and all those who caused others pains are DEAD Sir!

They are dead and they've returned to dust Sir as in NONEXISTENCE!

That's what we're saying, it's because of his LOVE that he fought to rescue those obedient and faithful servants Sir!

But as for his enemies, they're gone for good!

Janosky:
Ken4 FALSEHOOD , I told you earlier that you came to NL to make a mockery of yourself.

Janosky:


Your "eternal torment" (*@1) and
"eternal place of destruction " (@**ii)
are very DIFFERENT & CONTRADICTORY like Night and Day. Very stark opposites.
Hellfire torture is NOT destruction, STOP fooling yourself.
Ken4 FALSEHOOD , I told you earlier that you came to NL to make a mockery of yourself.
All your insults and invectives are proof you're a brainwashed Pharisee spreading POO.

None of your pastorpreneurs can provide credible, scriptural answers to those 3 JAMB questions you FAILED WOEFULLY.
Your FALSEHOOD have been exposed.

Ken4Christ:


But he also destroyed his own people. Please read the passages well.

Maximus69:


NO! NO!! NO!!!

Jehovah will never destroy his own people!

That's where most of you are getting it wrong Sir!

Israelites are to serve as an example for other nations but they failed woefully so God rejected that nation for good (Matthew 23:37-38)


John the baptist said "God can raise up children for Abraham from stones" {Matthew 3:9} this means God can raise up spiritual Israelites as children for faithful Abraham from gentile nations! Romans 2:28-29

So those destroyed by God aren't Israelites from their hearts, they're a wasted generation before Jehovah our God who is only interested in anyone that's faithful from any nation! Deuteronomy 32:5 compared to Act 10:34-35

That's what we've been trying all this while to tell you people that God has chosen SPIRITUAL JEWS {Zachariah 8:23} and anyone not clinging on these spiritual Jews can't serve Jehovah to the point of yielding the expected FRUIT! John 15:5

If you don't RECOGNISE these spiritual Jews, your mind will continue to wave here and there so you won't be able to say "this is the group Jesus is using in this last days" John 17:20-23

Ken4Christ:


Always ready to give an answer to every question even if it doesn't make sense. The Bible said that God destroyed the Israelites that murmured and you are saying that they were not Israelites. So who do we believe? You or the Bible.

Who where the people that murmured against God and Moses? Where they not Jews?

Who was the man that God ordered that he should be stoned to death when they caught him gathering sticks on a Sabbath day? Was he not a Jew.

What about Achan that God ordered that him and his entire family should be stoned to death for stealing an accursed thing? Was he not a Jew?

What about 70,000 people of the nation of Israel who died because King David numbered Israel, where they not all Jews.

2nd Samuel 24: 15 So the LORD sent a pestilence upon Israel from the morning even to the time appointed: and there died of the people from Dan even to Beersheba seventy thousand men.(70,000).

What about the Korah group the earth swallowed when they opposed Moses, where they not Jews.

Even Apostle Paul warned,

Hebrews 10:28-29

28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

Why are you people deliberately contradicting the scripture just to upload your preconceived opinion?

It's not too late to repent but if you continue in this deceptive ways, you will find yourself in the very hell you don't believe exist.

brocab:

As it is said: don't mock what you don't understand-we don't call it mockery, "only if you would just read the scriptures for yourself--understand them and understand God, you would know, his understanding of the bible is leading him directly to righteousness. Praise the Lord...

Maximus69:


You're not mature spiritually speaking, that's why you can't understand the simple explanation.
But i'll try to make it much sampler.

Now try to read Apostle Paul's letter again but this time read carefully and meditate prayerfully. Romans Chapter 2

Paul said "don't consider a person born into Jacob's race as a Jew or Israelite, because they think that once they're born into that family God accepts them automatically. But God accepts only those who are faithful to him as Abraham's offsprings. {John 8:39} So even if you're from Nigeria (none Israelite) but you're faithful to the God of Abraham, God views you as a JEW spiritually speaking!" READ~ Romans 2:28-29

Remember David, he has been ordained to replace Saul as king, but David will never murmur or rebel against the anointed one of God. NOT because he fear Saul but because of God's anointing on Saul! 1Samuel 24:1-7

Therefore anyone amongst the Israelites that murmur against God or any of his anointed servants is NOT A JEW BEFORE GOD!

So concerning those who murmured against God or his anointed servants in the Bible, God said of such persons "they are NOT mine" Deuteronomy 32:5

Ken4Christ:


I give up on you. Enjoy your journey to hell. Son of perdition.

Janosky:


Forget this your long epistle , brocab.
Go and provide solid scriptural answers to the 3 JAMB questions ken4christ has been dodging....

brocab:
He had answers your question's, but because you don't have the Spirit of the Lord, what he had written won't make any sense to you..
And that's understandable, before I knew the Lord, I also didn't have that spiritual knowledge either, if anybody spoke to me about God-I would run as far away I can 'refusing to listen, and what understanding I thought I had 'was nil-I was unteachable-just like your understanding is now "dead spirituality..
The bible tells us: {Matthew 7:6} Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
So it comes to a time, when we realise you are unteachable, you always come back with an argument over issues that isn't necessary.
{2 John 1:10} If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
Whoever greets such a person shares in his evil deeds.…

Maximus69:


I just imagine how beautiful it will be if argumentators like you and your folks could hold unto your application of that scripture.
Though that's NOT what John meant, but it would bring a great relief walking up to interested persons without you guys trying to soil our message as you avoid us completely!

But NO you guys won't do that, you only quote scriptures and the meaning you yourself gives it is what you'll never apply!

brocab:
He had answers your question's, but because you don't have the Spirit of the Lord, what he had written won't make any sense to you..
And that's understandable, before I knew the Lord, I also didn't have that spiritual knowledge either, if anybody spoke to me about God-I would run as far away I can 'refusing to listen, and what understanding I thought I had 'was nil-I was unteachable-just like your understanding is now "dead spirituality..
The bible tells us: {Matthew 7:6} Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
So it comes to a time, when we realise you are unteachable, you always come back with an argument over issues that isn't necessary.
{2 John 1:10} If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
Whoever greets such a person shares in his evil deeds.…

Janosky:

Brocab misquote the holy Scriptures & post JUNK.... Na your way..
Brocab, Answer these questions ,you dey
dodge....
@1)
Na where Lazarus tell you say him dey
enjoy before Jesus resurrected him?
@2
Where the scriptures that Adam and
Eve were tortured in hellfire?
@3
Or Sodom and Gomorrah were tortured
in hellfire?

***
Whoever brings a satanic doctrine that can not answer the 3 questions here from him Bible , is a Pharisee masquerading as a follower of Christ.

"Because you ,brocab, don't have the Spirit of the God," VERY TRUE !!!!!!

Janosky:



My Brother no mind those Pharisee clowns- brocab and him crew.
There's NOTHING Christian about them, every honest hearted person can see that clearly..... Lol

Maximus69:


Hmmmmmmmmmm, you and this your HELL!

There's no reason to give up Sir!

I'm a Christian and a believer in the judgment day, there are billions of people out there who do not believe in Christ nor God's day of judgment.

They're in need of God's word 24/7!

Instead of worrying about someone who already believe in God's judgment day and working out his salvation based on his understanding of the scriptures, why not go out there in search of the needy?

As for son of PERDITION, Jesus gave that name to Judas Iscariot because of his desire for material things of the world! John 12:3-6

So instead of engaging yourself in what you can't explain, try to do something better with your time. Jehovah's Witnesses are fully competent and completely equipped to handle God's word and make use of it with efficacy! 2Timothy 2:15,3:16-17

We don't just insult, abuse or curse people simply because they don't share our beliefs. Unlike you and your folks who can't defend what you carry in your skulls that's filled with CREDULITY!

Maximus69:


Hmmmmmmmmmm, you and this your HELL!

There's no reason to give up Sir!

I'm a Christian and a believer in the judgment day, there are billions of people out there who do not believe in Christ nor God's day of judgment.

They're in need of God's word 24/7!

Instead of worrying about someone who already believe in God's judgment day and working out his salvation based on his understanding of the scriptures, why not go out there in search of the needy?

As for son of PERDITION, Jesus gave that name to Judas Iscariot because of his desire for material things of the world! John 12:3-6

So instead of engaging yourself in what you can't explain, try to do something better with your time. Jehovah's Witnesses are fully competent and completely equipped to handle God's word and make use of it with efficacy! 2Timothy 2:15,3:16-17

We don't just insult, abuse or curse people simply because they don't share our beliefs. Unlike you and your folks who can't defend what you carry in your skulls that's filled with CREDULITY!

Ken4Christ:


Jehovah's Witnesses are agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light. You will all have your portion in the Lake of fire that burns with sulphur and brimstone.

Maximus69:


That's all what has been infused in your brains!

"If you don't agree with us, it will not be well with you!"

Where exactly have JWs defaulted in the WORK Christ commissioned? You can't explain.

What exactly is our crime? You can't say.

But since we're not in tune with your pastor's interpretation of the scriptures, wahala dey!

OK go out there, preach and teach effectively so that everyone can SEE the benefit of your religion in the lifestyle of your listeners. Matthew 5:14-16 You can't!

But Jehovah's Witnesses who are up and doing in the WORK assigned them to do globally, bearing fruit that's obvious to all eyes you're desperate to hypnotise for your greedy pastors.

Please in ONE sentence, can you just say exactly what evil/wrong JWs are doing globally that will bring the wrath of God upon the organization?

AGENTS OF DARKNESS Yet they're the most proactive in preaching and teaching that's efficacious. John 13:34-35,17:14-23

Well i've told you what to do Sir.

Mr Ken4Christ,
Go and convert real evildoers out there who are practicing what is written in the Bible book of Galatians 5:19-21, gather them into one fold so that people can SEE the benefit of your WORKS{James 2:18-26} take note of Paul's word "those practicing such (written in Galatians 5:19-21)WILL NOT INHERIT GOD'S KINGDOM"
As for Jehovah's Witnesses it's only a dishonest person that will say he can't see the organization progressing in what Paul wrote in the Bible book of Galatians 5:22-23. Note Paul's word "against such a group, THERE IS NO LAW!"

God bless you Sir!

Hairyrapunzel:


Thank God you said organisation last last na business venture.

Hairyrapunzel:


You that say your jehovah says he will destroy wicked/worldly people because they refused to join watchtower organisatio, unquestionably obey 8 old uninspired fallible and imperfect men who reside in New York and also accept that they are the only channel of communication between God and man today nko?


You that said jesus came invisibly in 1914 and chose the publishing company called watchtower organisation to represent him as the one true religion on earth nko?

You that said jehovah said that you should reject blood transfusion nko?

You that said jehovah said you should not celebrate birthday or Christmas or Thanksgiving nko?

I can list all your doctrines. In fact no one is stated in the bible.

You will die while waiting for your new system just like your founding fathers died waiting. The only place your new system will come is inside your head/imagination and your watchtower magazines.

Hairyrapunzel:
You that said jesus came invisibly in 1914 and chose the publishing company called watchtower organisation to represent him as the one true religion on earth nko?

Maximus69:


I just imagine how beautiful it will be if argumentators like you and your folks could hold unto your application of that scripture.
Though that's NOT what John meant, but it would bring a great relief walking up to interested persons without you guys trying to soil our message as you avoid us completely!

But NO you guys won't do that, you only quote scriptures and the meaning you yourself gives it is what you'll never apply!

Hairyrapunzel:


To dash your brain to jw gb to think for you now means being honest hearted?

I no fit laugh. Some people can't be brainwashed that's the truth. Even people in Jim Jones people's temple before they swallowed poison said they were not brainwashed.

Honest hearted ke? Not every human can swallow nonsense

brocab:


Let’s begin with [color=#990000]{2 John 1:10-11} If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; Whoever greets such a person shares in his evil deeds.…
In the previous verses John speaks of “deceivers” and of “whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ” {verses 7 and 9}.
It is evident that the subject being dealt with in this letter is that some no longer walked in the truth.
Some had embraced a false doctrine and were actually preaching that Christ was not coming in the flesh; that is, that Christ was not living in the lives of His disciples {verse 7}.
After several decades in the first generation of the Church of God, false teachers and false teachings were spreading and threatening to deceive some. John also stated in {1 John 4:1-6} that some taught that Christ never came in the flesh.