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Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by vaxx2: 5:53pm On Nov 09, 2019 |
StaffofOrayan:You are not thinking in the other way , what we happen to swizz economy that has about 2 billion dollar worth of chocolate industry, what will happen to other international buisness like nestle and others that are big enough to employed thousands of people. This is the reason we must welcome comparative advantage |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by vaxx2: 6:02pm On Nov 09, 2019 |
StaffofOrayan:Importation is an economic opportunities. Ghana is not industrialised enough to consumed much more larger cocoa beans but produce enough for export and her local consumption . importing cocoa beans to Ghana is naturally unproductive just like how crude oil is naturally unproductive to be export to Nigeria. You can't export weapons to USA, it is unproductive venture. trade dosnt work blindly . |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by GENERATOGERIA: 6:16pm On Nov 09, 2019 |
What do you mean would Ghana allow nigerian cocoa anywhere near its market? It doesn’t make sense. Ghana is a producer, not a recipient market for cocoa. If you have chocolate or finished products from cocoa to sell, Ghana could be a market. Your products will compete with other products of the same nature in the marketplace. This is very simple logic StaffofOrayan: |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by StaffofOrayan(m): 6:24pm On Nov 09, 2019 |
Now you are beginning to understand, Whats so wrong in Ghana processing and turning some of its paste to high quality chocolate and coners the African market? Once Africa wakes up, most economies would collapse, it is inevitable IMF more than any institution knows this. http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/IMG/pdf/24_Lombart.pdf ".....de ceux pour qui ‘sans l’Afrique, la France deviendrait une puissance de troisième rang’” (speaking about President Chiraq) ..one of those for whom “without Africa France would become a third-rate power" vaxx2: |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by StaffofOrayan(m): 6:26pm On Nov 09, 2019 |
Dude pls sit down Ghanaians are already closing Nigerian shops over 'unfair advantage' Simple logic doesn't seem to apply there right? GENERATOGERIA: |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by vaxx2: 6:31pm On Nov 09, 2019 |
StaffofOrayan:swizz didn't just become top leading chocolate producer and neither did Ghana just rose to become world cocoa leading producer . All takes planing and effort. Ghana has chocolate industry also but not on the level of international standard. anyway that is a good development for a country that has far less infrastructure compare to swizz. Africa can't do trade to herself only . we need each other back.... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by GENERATOGERIA: 6:49pm On Nov 09, 2019 |
what is unfair here? closing your border is fair, but Ghanaians closing nigerian shops is unfair? what stvpid logic is that? Ghanaian laws does not permit retail businesses by foreigners. is that too difficult to understand? [s] StaffofOrayan:[/s] |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by StaffofOrayan(m): 7:34pm On Nov 09, 2019 |
.....Most of the world's cocoa is grown in a narrow belt 10 degrees either side of the Equator because cocoa trees grow well in humid tropical climates with regular rains and a short dry season.... if Switzerland could grow cocoa trust me they would do in bulk... Why do you think Africa was colonized?? Till today they still take our gold and valuable resources and give us guns, clothes and paper money. Nobody is asking Africa to do trade by itself, how on earth would that even happen! But it is imperative Africa wakes up and stop being the dumping ground of the world. Answer me this, why does Morocco want to join ECOWAS with the full backing of the EU? You have intentionally decided not to get it. vaxx2: 1 Like |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by StaffofOrayan(m): 7:39pm On Nov 09, 2019 |
We don't share land borders!!!!! What is all this madness about? ECOWAS has laws on trade among member states which is being disregarded, is that too hard to understand ? GENERATOGERIA: |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by GENERATOGERIA: 7:57pm On Nov 09, 2019 |
what is this nonsense all about? ECOWAS has laws on free movement of goods and people among member states which is being disregarded. is that too hard to understand? stop talking trash. you want to eat your cake and have it? nonsense [s] StaffofOrayan:[/s] |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by vaxx2: 7:57pm On Nov 09, 2019 |
StaffofOrayan:Honestly, you aren't making your own research. or probably brainwashed. Switzerland is not producing cocoa beans simply because she is not investing in the production and not because she can't do it . To grow the cocoa trees in Switzerland. You would only need to cut down some forest and put a big greenhouse there. and that is all. greenhouse technology eradicate issues that comes with climate condition. By the way, did you know that the original home of the cocoa tree is not Africa, but Mexico? The word chocolate is actually derived from Nahuatl, the old language of the Aztecs. In Mexico, they make chocolate, but most is for its traditional use. if Ghana can get as much milk it required to produce in large quantity like swizz, she will have long become a big time chocolate producer. since it only takes goverment to send apprentice to go learn the best practice abroad but unfortunately, it is easier to transport dried cocoa beans to Europe than to receive fresh milk from Europe. what africa need most now is industrialization. not banning trade. an industrialized enviroment will control itself naturally . Morroco does more trade with ecowas than Any other African blocks , morroco has a potential to increase its growth, she is importing a lot of Nigeria crude oil , Ghana cocoa beans and trying to export her phosphate down west africa ... she is coming to ecowas to be more competitive. what is wrong if Nigeria seek to join SADA in South Africa. it is all about opportunity.. The west aren't your enemy , you africa are your own enemy. look into the mirror and tell me who you see. that is your stopping block. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by StaffofOrayan(m): 9:14pm On Nov 09, 2019 |
The cocoa tree (Theobroma Cocoa) grows in tropical areas between 15 and 20 degrees latitude north and south of the equator in Africa, Asia and Latin America.... Greenhouse to grow Cocoa for export/major consumption hehehehe that is almost laughable. Do you realize it takes about 5 years for the tree to bear fruit!!! We are not talking about seedlings here!! Nigeria has NOT banned trade WTF!!!!!! Where did you get this crap You sound so naive I almost pity you. https://www.globalmeatnews.com › ... Ghana joins forces with South Africa to fight EU - Global Meat News 04 Dec 2017 · Ghana joins forces with South Africa to fight EU ... Other proposals to mitigate the impact of chicken dumping.... www.ihu.dk › mediaPDF The Impact of EU Poultry Sector Policies on Sub-Saharan African ... - IHU.dk What EU Policies Affect the Poultry Meat Trade with SSA Countries? ..... Indeed, in some countries such as Ghana it is beginning to. //www.businesslive.co.za › ... Brazil now turning Ghana into a poultry wasteland - BusinessLIVE 20 Aug 2019 · ... and it's swamping Ghana with cheap imports www.tuaeu.co.uk › How the EU starves Africa – Trade Unionists Against the EU The most obvious and damaging exhibit is, of course, the Common Agricultural Policy ... designed to open up the markets of all African , Caribbean and Pacific countries for EU www.downtoearth.org.in Rein in dairy exports to our continent: African farmers to EU 15 Apr 2019 · Since 2009, the EU has been flooding North African countries with cheap skimmed milk powder (SMP), which is then reconstituted into milk. This has allegedly destroyed the local dairy industries and the fresh milk collection market in local markets. EURACTIV.com HomeNewsGlobal EuropeDevelopment PolicyEU-Africa free trade agreement ‘destroys’ development policy, says Merkel advisor By Dario Sarmadi | EURACTIV.de | translated by Erika Körner 07-11-2014 (updated: 10-11-2014 ) Merkel's Africa commissioner criticised the EU's Economic Partnership Agreement (EPA) with Africa saying it contradicts development aid ...Kenya is among the countries that refused to sign. In response, the EU imposed import tariffs on multiple Kenyan products effective from 1 October. Media has reported that the measure led to numerous layoffs in several African firms. Under this pressure, Nairobi finally snapped two weeks ago, and added its signature to the trade agreement. Andrew Mold, the UN’s economic analyst for east Africa, said he sees the African economy as being threatened by the agreement in the long-term. “The African countries cannot compete with an economy like Germany’s. As a result, free trade and EU imports endanger existing industries, and future industries do not even materialise because they are exposed to competition from the EU,” Mold commented. Thanks to various foreign trade agreements, Europe’s former colonies have enjoyed preferential access to the European market for many decades. In turn, they barely had to open their own markets. But the World Trade Organization (WTO) declared this one-sided market opening unlawful in 2000. In response, the EU concluded the Cotonou Agreement in 2007 with 79 African countries (AKP countries). Since then, Europeans have been in negotiations with Africans over the corresponding free trade agreements. But according to Green MEP Ska Keller, the EPA hurts regional trade, and does not leave partner countries any room to develop their own industries, create jobs and thereby pull people out of poverty. “Developing countries have a gun pointed at their chest – either they sign or their market access to the EU is restricted,” Keller said, “the EPA is the opposite of development cooperation.” Africa has always been the dumping ground of the world! Wake ur silly asss Up vaxx2: 1 Like |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by StaffofOrayan(m): 9:39pm On Nov 09, 2019 |
GOODS YOU PRODUCE IN THE REGION YOU DUMMY NOT GOODS YOU IMPORT FROM OTHER COUNTRIES. WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE OVERWHELMED WITH! Are you pretending to be slow or what? You can't import rice from Asia and expect free access of the ECOWAS market!!!!! Oh god!!! When compared with the most populous country in the world, Benin Republic imported nearly two million metric tonnes of rice in 2017 (1,814,014), while China imported 1,204,911. Jul 15, 2019 https://guardian.ng › features Benin tops 184 countries importing rice from Thailand | The Guardian Nigeria .. GENERATOGERIA: |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by GENERATOGERIA: 10:02pm On Nov 09, 2019 |
Sharaaaap ediot. How dare you call me dummy? Even your president is the number one dummy, fool. the dummy president spends all his time watching cartoons on TV and picking his teeth. foolish goat. Who gives a fvck about you foolish Nigerians? You closed your borders and we locked up your shops, nothing spoil now. Why are you fvcking wailing. You need a dirty slap to clear that your stvpid eyes. cry cry nigerians StaffofOrayan: |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by StaffofOrayan(m): 10:29pm On Nov 09, 2019 |
If you dare close our multi million dollar companies we would believe you not those 2×2 shops Wailing for Ghana Kikikikiki Who do you clowns think you are? Your population is that of Lagos state , high level Ghanaian delegates are begging in Abuja GENERATOGERIA: |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by GENERATOGERIA: 10:46pm On Nov 09, 2019 |
Hahahahaha There are no Ghanaian officials in Abuja. we are no longer interested in dragging the border closure with you mudderfugger fuggerz it’s your border, do whatever you like with it. Ghana’s total exports to your sh1thole is not even up to $100 million is that the one that will affect Ghana’s economy? but there is sifiapain among nigerian traders in Ghana more than 200 nigerian shops have been closed and more are being closed every day . Let’s see who is wailing Who gives a fvck if Ghana’s population is not up to that of Lagos? we are looking for quality, not stvpid quantity StaffofOrayan: |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by surplusk: 10:59pm On Nov 09, 2019 |
GENERATOGERIA: You have been busy posting comments to suit urself in all the trend so far hope u sleep well tonight at list u have defend ur Ghana enough even carried Togo and our lovely Benin brothers ahead of us Weldon. |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by ifyboy60(m): 11:03pm On Nov 09, 2019 |
Blue3k: they just mindlessly quote china's Mao strategy that failed woefully and starved more then 10 million Chinese to death. It was technological advancements, good border controls and better farming practices that liberated china and it all happened after Mao died. But our dull Nigerians won't reason anyways, after all we voted Buhari, twice. |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by ifyboy60(m): 11:17pm On Nov 09, 2019 |
Blue3k: well it sometimes becomes necessary when your supposed foreign trading partners start cheating. Ghana has a policy that prevents other nationalities from doing small scale trading in their own country but wouldn't mind Ghanaians doing small scale trade in other people's country. Ghana has one of the highest import duties in West Africa forcing companies to be domiciled in Ghana. I don't think Ghana should complain of any country's protectionism |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by vaxx2: 5:13am On Nov 10, 2019 |
StaffofOrayan:You quoted me back with so many irrelevant topic that is off topic . being a dumping site for commodity been produce aborad is another topic entirely. You are just grasping on weak defence . we are talking about importation as regards to trade here..... I hate goal post shifting....... And I am surprised you only want to believed in the songs that rings In your head. cocoa production is a matter of planning and timing, this is what I raised ealier, You don't just wake up one day and become a cocoa producer or chocolate investor. it takes planning and timing as i mention earlier . swizz can produce cocoa if it so wish, climatic condition is not an hindrances in this days of mechanization when green house technology can do better and also produce better yield..... You can't defend Nigeria with this kind of poor understanding particularly when you yourself refuse to learn. Nigeria has placed ban on import of over 43 commodities and control it heavily by those who has the license to import them.. What do you produce that you deem it fit for Europe consumption. what do you do in africa if not primary and agrarian investment with zero value substitute . You have to be productive to compete in Europe market . China had passed such test . You see Chinese goods almost everywhere even America stores. Czech republic is seriously becoming a new market for Chinese goods and capital investment ... You don't become giant by being protective but by being productive. |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by StaffofOrayan(m): 7:01am On Nov 10, 2019 |
Then why are you crying on NAIRALAND THAT'S MY BIGGEST QUESTION ARE YOU WAILING OUT OF LOVE FOR NIGERIA? GENERATOGERIA: |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by StaffofOrayan(m): 7:11am On Nov 10, 2019 |
Every country has a list of banned items! EVERY SINGLE COUNTY IN THE WORLD You can't import Cuban ciga into Cuba You can't import Cocoa into Ghana etc China makes use of non-tariff trade barriers to restrict the number of imports coming into the country. As China is a part of the World Trade Organization, it would be difficult for it to use only blatant tax-based trade barriers. As such, China uses more indirect trade barriers to protect its domestic market. You can't being KFC chicken into Sweet sensation. I hope this simple description helps? vaxx2: |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by vaxx2: 7:43am On Nov 10, 2019 |
StaffofOrayan:You are notoriously grasping at straw, and I don't know why you are doing these. it seems to me , you don't even understand your own argument. it is unnecessarily unproductive to import what a nation does better . who in its right head import crude oil to Nigeria. Ghana didn't place banned on cocoa beans stop lying but naturally no one will venture into such trade since it is unproductive to do so. during ivory coast civil unrest, Ghana was the gateway of ivory coast cocoa beans to Europe. Banning product across liberal country aren't meant to be protectionist but on security or sanction purpose. liberal country don't banned product related to trade, they rather work on competitive advantage . trade aren't done blindly ..... To ban imports from China would be to ban participation in the digital economy. There are very few computers, smartphones, and other digital products that aren't made in China. By dominating the manufacture of electronics, China has made it's exports indespensible. Banning Chinese products would be an economic death sentence for any country...... You can export as much as you can into China, it just must meet communism standard and regulation, Ghana just identify the place as the next home of its bitter alcoholic beverages. tax system is a soft mechanism to protect local industry not an outright banned to importers. despite the huge tax to invest in banking sector in Nigeria, there is still a lot of foreing banks . kfc chicken are independent company from sweet sensation. both but of them can work as synergies if their buisness demand it. two of dangote subsidiary are collaborating right now. in Ghana, two telecommunication company have form a synergy. Airtel and Tigo .... if your works and prospect demand it. it can work and better for two weak company. All telecoms in Ghana allow interoperability on mobile money . Why dont you ask question instead of argument. it seems to me you don't even understand your own argument. very poor if you ask me. |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by StaffofOrayan(m): 8:23am On Nov 10, 2019 |
Seriously you are not normal! Are you arguing that countries don't protect what they produce best or want to be a leading producer of?? To have "free trade" you have to trade in something, that something is your market, probably the backbone of your economy, most likely would be a great employer of labour or a potential employer, it only makes sense you protect such (potential) industry!!!! vaxx2: |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by Just30: 8:25am On Nov 10, 2019 |
StaffofOrayan:except Ghana is not getting other people goods locked up at the border We have smart ways of solving our problems |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by Just30: 8:29am On Nov 10, 2019 |
StaffofOrayan:Ghana can limit rice import because we already produce 80% of the rice we consume and Ghana rice import is just 300 million dollars for a little over 300,000 metric tonnes of rice to offset the shortfall of local production. GHANA CAN IMPORT ALL THE MEAT IT WANT AS LONG AS WE DONT REAR ANIMALS |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by vaxx2: 8:46am On Nov 10, 2019 |
Just30:Ghana produce its own meat and consume more meat than Nigeria per head . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by Area4Area: 8:48am On Nov 10, 2019 |
Just30:....and Nigeria is not going about locking a 100-200 shops, we all are smart |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by Area4Area: 8:51am On Nov 10, 2019 |
Just30:......and Nigeria is not locking up about a 100 shops owned by foreigners, aren't all of us smart? |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by vaxx2: 8:52am On Nov 10, 2019 |
StaffofOrayan:probably my last reply to this kind of porous thinking ? what liberal nation do in protecting local industries is not banning competitive product but raising up tariffs from foreign competitors which has not established agreement of free trade policy. Protectionism is temporal solution to a long time problem. it probably creates jobs for domestic workers or perhaps raised emergency millionaire but the benefit ends once other countries retaliate by erecting their own protectionism. so such policy is very dangerous in 21st century and in the long run, trade protectionism weakens the industry. Without competition, companies within the industry have no need to innovate. There's no need to. Eventually, the domestic product will decline in quality. It will be lower quality and more expensive than what foreign competitors produce. that is what buhari is aiming to achieve. |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by Area4Area: 8:54am On Nov 10, 2019 |
Just30:A link to where it was reported that Ghana produces 80% of the rice consumed there |
Re: Increase Rice Production with Mechanization instead of border closure by Area4Area: 8:55am On Nov 10, 2019 |
vaxx2:We want to learn so can you please give us a link to this information? Thanks |
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