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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 3:29am On Nov 13, 2019
BascoVanVeli:



One minute the media is making Ekong look like a demi god and the next they will cook up rumours about him.
This is a 3 way competition. In fact the question should be who will pair up Ajayi because Troost and Kenneth have been on horrible defensive teams this season. Especially Ekong who took in 11 in 2 matches

You made a lot of sense, here. He is our most inform defender right now and can't sit on the bench. Let Omeruo be rested.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 4:01am On Nov 13, 2019
komekn:


Absolutely correct.

That approach is reflected in Europe where it's not taken seriously.

Once again U23 football is a very low standard to gauge excellence. Most U23 teams in England will struggle with many non league clubs. And l am talking from an informed perspective not hearsay.

That's why players are sent on loan and not left to stagnate in the U23's.

Look at composition of U23 teams in Africa how many of them can cut it at an EPL academy ❓ How many can make it straight into English league one, etc. Because most can not walk straight into any first tier top 10 league in Europe.

So if that becomes the basis of our selection to the SE. We have murdered excellence and enthroned MEDIOCRITY with all its additional sharp practices and corruption.

Thankfully it's not the NFF approach.

You and this your english league one hyping

Can you listen to your self saying most u23 players in africa cant cut it in an epl academy

If i combine players that are under the age of 23 from naija ivory coast and co you go begin find excuse

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 4:13am On Nov 13, 2019
That is the problem. These foreign born or European players are overrated and simply have more opportunities. The Zambian team we defeated had higlly rated players in these Leagues. Abeg make we hear word. For example, someone born in Ajegunle might be more brilliant than a Harvard graduate, he might just need a chance.

Are you sure this your Mwetu is better than Kelechi Nwakali or Taiwo Awoniyi?. It's all a question of perspective. The problem is that normally, a player is expected to peak from the age of 25 and so players develop at a different rate also some players are simply not given a chance to express themselves. For example, Kelechi Iheanacho scores everytime he plays, yet the coach benches him. Being in a good team or league is sometimes about luck.



andrewbaba44:


You and this your english league one hyping

Can you listen to your self saying most u23 players in africa cant cut it in an epl academy

If i combine players that are under the age of 23 from naija ivory coast and co you go begin find excuse
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 4:43am On Nov 13, 2019
andrewbaba44:


You and this your english league one hyping

Can you listen to your self saying most u23 players in africa cant cut it in an epl academy

If i combine players that are under the age of 23 from naija ivory coast and co you go begin find excuse
you dey mind am, that's how they said European countries don't take U-20/U-17 serious, but the year England won both, BBC no allow us rest. How can he say most countries don't take the Olympics serious? The same Olympic that giggs, Ramsey and Bale represented the UK, Neymar was at the last one as an over age player.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrKlever(m): 5:46am On Nov 13, 2019
Tbh i think the average age of this our U23 team is higher than the super eagles ooh. Real age not football age though grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:50am On Nov 13, 2019
tbaba1234:


The Olympics football event has lost its glamour as most teams can't invite their best players within the age limit anymore. The release of players is no longer mandated by FIFA so the quality has gone down.

True but it still a testing ground for our Potential SE players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:53am On Nov 13, 2019
andrewbaba44:


You and this your english league one hyping

Can you listen to your self saying most u23 players in africa cant cut it in an epl academy

If i combine players that are under the age of 23 from naija ivory coast and co you go begin find excuse

From the start I knew that was the direction he will still shift his argument.

Any Nigerian youth team or players is always a threat to his English academy players. grin

We should not have an U23 made up of Nigerian players, we should be waiting for English academy boys grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:57am On Nov 13, 2019
Komekn, as usual, you are just trying so hard to discredit our youths system.

The Olympics Team remains a hunting ground for future Senior national team players.

If Taiwo Awoniyi should Pose a very good performance in the current tournament, he will definitely get a look in by Rohr, this is regardless of his club performances. Players like Etebo, Azubuike, Shehu Abdulahi, and Aminu Umar got their first SE invite due to their performances with the U23s.

I am not saying this is the ONLY means but outstanding players from the U23s typically get invites to the Senior national teams. Why do you think the NFF opted for a SE assistant coach for the U23s? It's because the U23 side is more like a feeder team to the SE

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 6:10am On Nov 13, 2019
Icon4s:


From the start I knew that was the direction he will still shift his argument.

Any Nigerian youth team or players is always a threat to his English academy players. grin

We should not have an U23 made up of Nigerian players, we should be waiting for English academy boys grin

Lol

They are definitely better than the so called English academy players
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 6:11am On Nov 13, 2019
jihday:
you dey mind am, that's how they said European countries don't take U-20/U-17 serious, but the year England won both, BBC no allow us rest. How can he say most countries don't take the Olympics serious? The same Olympic that giggs, Ramsey and Bale represented the UK, Neymar was at the last one as an over age player.

Lol

Na when england win that u17 and u20 world cup i know the importance

But when naija dey win am e no important ooo

Very funny set of people

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 6:12am On Nov 13, 2019
Philosopher1979:

That is the problem. These foreign born or European players are overrated and simply have more opportunities. The Zambian team we defeated had higlly rated players in these Leagues. Abeg make we hear word. For example, someone born in Ajegunle might be more brilliant than a Harvard graduate, he might just need a chance.

Are you sure this your Mwetu is better than Kelechi Nwakali or Taiwo Awoniyi?. It's all a question of perspective. The problem is that normally, a player is expected to peak from the age of 25 and so players develop at a different rate also some players are simply not given a chance to express themselves. For example, Kelechi Iheanacho scores everytime he plays, yet the coach benches him. Being in a good team or league is sometimes about luck.




Agreed bro
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by rabzy: 6:43am On Nov 13, 2019
solonnachi:


But this Gernot Rohr dey try sha. He keeps track record of the club form and minutes played by our foreign players in their different leagues. He even knows players that are fit and not fit to play against Benin. If he can just do the same for our league in discovering good talents, he for don turn world class.

If our league was better organized, nobody would need to be discovering them like oloibiri oil deposits. We discover talents here in all leagues all over Europe and hardly at home, because the amount of mud, oxides, amalgam of shit and rust you have to sift through to possibly discover a rare talent is hardly worth the time and effort.
The league should let the talents shine through for all and sundry to see. The NFF and league management should get it done. So that when banscovelli mention some names, the living and the dead will concur because it is clear as daylight.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kbs468(m): 7:19am On Nov 13, 2019
zayyadidris:
I was among the first people to vote in.!!

I think you were being mentioned again ONLY BECAUSE Olulong went in to reply all his mentions on Nairaland though

While explaining His reason for the late reply as he himself had posted his nomination too already before Icon4s posted that message seeking your response way back pre the already collated and announced result that have seen

tbaba1234
TheSuperNerd
Safarigirl
Andrewbaba44
Komekn
Forgiveness
Somehow and
Icon4s

As committee members constituted with the ship ready to commence sailings on November the 25th.

Good morning.

Modified : (Hope I have not mistaken the inclusion of somehow though)

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kbs468(m): 7:31am On Nov 13, 2019
rabzy:


If our league was better organized, nobody would need to be discovering them like oloibiri oil deposits. We discover talents here in all leagues all over Europe and hardly at home, because the amount of mud, oxides, amalgam of shit and rust you have to sift through to possibly discover a rare talent is hardly worth the time and effort.
The league should let the talents shine through for all and sundry to see. The NFF and league management should get it done. So that when BascoVanVeli mention some names, the living and the dead will concur because it is clear as daylight.

Very well said and a good and excellent management of the NPFL would reignite the good old days of exposing Nigerian Players to and bringing back the foreign scouts to NIGERIA since every club has it own youth wing too.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kbs468(m): 7:37am On Nov 13, 2019
Icon4s:
Komekn, as usual, you are just trying so hard to discredit our youths system.

The Olympics Team remains a hunting ground for future Senior national team players.

If Taiwo Awoniyi should Pose a very good performance in the current tournament, he will definitely get a look in by Rohr, this is regardless of his club performances. Players like Etebo, Azubuike, Shehu Abdulahi, and Aminu Umar got their first SE invite due to their performances with the U23s.

I am not saying this is the ONLY means but outstanding players from the U23s typically get invites to the Senior national teams. Why do you think the NFF opted for a SE assistant coach for the U23s? It's because the U23 side is more like a feeder team to the
Super Eagles grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:39am On Nov 13, 2019
andrewbaba44:


You and this your english league one hyping

Can you listen to your self saying most u23 players in africa cant cut it in an epl academy

If i combine players that are under the age of 23 from naija ivory coast and co you go begin find excuse

I think he means the current U23 teams and not really every African player below 23 and if you look at it from that angle he may not be that wrong. I mean Nwakali couldn't even cut it at the Portuguese Segunda and yet he is starting games for our U23 which means he is better than all we have on the bench and that is saying something about how poor the team really is.

But what you are saying is different. I mean Chukwueze is U23 and will definitely cut it there, but he isn't in the present U23 team, note the difference.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:41am On Nov 13, 2019
Philosopher1979:

That is the problem. These foreign born or European players are overrated and simply have more opportunities. The Zambian team we defeated had higlly rated players in these Leagues. Abeg make we hear word. For example, someone born in Ajegunle might be more brilliant than a Harvard graduate, he might just need a chance.

Are you sure this your Mwetu is better than Kelechi Nwakali or Taiwo Awoniyi?. It's all a question of perspective. The problem is that normally, a player is expected to peak from the age of 25 and so players develop at a different rate also some players are simply not given a chance to express themselves. For example, Kelechi Iheanacho scores everytime he plays, yet the coach benches him. Being in a good team or league is sometimes about luck.




Yeah, right.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:52am On Nov 13, 2019
I wonder if there is anyone who still feel the EPL officials are not corrupt after the Liverpool game.


Proof Match Officials Were Against Manchester City In Game With Liverpool

https://www.nairaland.com/5525761/proof-match-officials-against-manchester
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 7:56am On Nov 13, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
I wonder if there is anyone who still feel the EPL officials are not corrupt after the Liverpool game.


Proof Match Officials Were Against Manchester City In Game With Liverpool

https://www.nairaland.com/5525761/proof-match-officials-against-manchester

Just like match officials can be against teams playing Manchester City as well.

These big teams benefit from shady calls in the EPL a lot, it's common knowledge.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:58am On Nov 13, 2019
safarigirl:


Just like match officials can be against teams playing Manchester City as well.

These big teams benefit from shady calls in the EPL a lot, it's common knowledge.

This is about people handed the task to officiate games being shady. It shows the height of their corruption. Whether it favours City or not does not count. What counts is that we have VAR put in place to check corruption. The VAR officials saw a penalty and refused to give it. Then later came out to publicly lie about it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 8:04am On Nov 13, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


This is about people handed the task to officiate games being shady. It shows the height of their corruption. Whether it favours City or not does not count. What counts is that we have VAR put in place to check corruption. The VAR officials saw a penalty and refused to give it. Then later came out to publicly lie about it.

I did not dismiss your claims, rather, I supported it.

The EPL officials nake shady calls for big teams a lot, so, this isn't news. White people are not beyond corrupt practices just because they're white. Webb was not infamous for making valid calls

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:09am On Nov 13, 2019
safarigirl:


I did not dismiss your claims, rather, I supported it.

The EPL officials nake shady calls for big teams a lot, so, this isn't news. White people are not beyond corrupt practices just because they're white. Webb was not infamous for making valid calls

Thank you. Misunderstood you comment earlier.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:19am On Nov 13, 2019
Kbs468:


I think you were being mentioned again ONLY BECAUSE Olulong went in to reply all his mentions on Nairaland though

While explaining His reason for the late reply as he himself had posted his nomination too already before Icon4s posted that message seeking your response way back pre the already collated and announced result that have seen

tbaba1234
TheSuperNerd
Safarigirl
Andrewbaba44
Komekn
Forgiveness
Somehow and
Icon4s


As committee members constituted with the ship ready to commence sailings on November the 25th.

Good morning.

Modified : (Hope I have not mistaken the inclusion of somehow though)

Oga this your list na fake. grin
E get somehow grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:20am On Nov 13, 2019
Kbs468:

Super Eagles grin

No mind me jare. Had no time to read through before posing. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:23am On Nov 13, 2019
Mickael2:


I think he means the current U23 teams and not really every African player below 23 and if you look at it from that angle he may not be that wrong. I mean Nwakali couldn't even cut it at the Portuguese Segunda and yet he is starting games for our U23 which means he is better than all we have on the bench and that is saying something about how poor the team really is.

But what you are saying is different. I mean Chukwueze is U23 and will definitely cut it there, but he isn't in the present U23 team, note the difference.

Michael, welcome back! Good to have you here again.

Komekn was not just referring to this current crop. He made a generalized statement.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:31am On Nov 13, 2019

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:36am On Nov 13, 2019
Icon4s:


Michael, welcome back! Good to have you here again.

Komekn was not just referring to this current crop. He made a generalized statement.

Well if that is his point then that really is rubbish talk filled with emotive prejudice grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:39am On Nov 13, 2019
Mickael2:


Well if that is his point then that really is rubbish talk filled with emotive prejudice grin

grin grin grin A taste of his own medicine
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:45am On Nov 13, 2019
Icon4s:
Enjoying things like these. The Zambian Fans are wailing grin

http://zambianfootball.co.zm/afcon-u23-zambia-walk-tight-rope-after-defeat-to-nigeria/zfadmin/#comments

The Zambians speak better English, not like the South Africans that input their shitty languages after two words

I'm impressed

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:53am On Nov 13, 2019
Eartquake1:


The Zambians speak better English, not like the South Africans that input their shitty languages after two words

I'm impressed

Yeah you observed that too. What of we Nigerians? grin I have observed that so many of our young people these days are very poor with their tenses. undecided
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Pidginwhisper: 8:54am On Nov 13, 2019
Icon4s:
Enjoying things like these. The Zambian Fans are wailing grin

http://zambianfootball.co.zm/afcon-u23-zambia-walk-tight-rope-after-defeat-to-nigeria/zfadmin/#comments
I didnt see that as wailing sha.They’re just being honest and matured. I really love their matured comments . No attack on opposition players or blaming the referee. One of dem even suggests that their players should be put on special diets so as to be able to match the West physically. grin, na true sha as na only Mbesuma be the only zambia player i sabi say fit play jam body football��. Wait the after SA game you go see wailing.��
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:01am On Nov 13, 2019
Pidginwhisper:
I didnt see that as wailing sha.They’re just being honest and matured. I really love their matured comments . No attack on opposition players or blaming the referee. One of dem even suggests that their players should be put on special diets so as to be able to match the West physically. grin, na true sha as na only Mbesuma be the only zambia player i sabi say fit play jam body football��. Wait the after SA game you go see wailing.��

Well, if you say so.

Zambia has never been a match to Nigeria in football. We often seem to always have our way against. I have been trying to see if I can remember any game we lost to Zambia at any level of football.

As for Mbesuma. I always laugh when I watch him run on the pitch grin Na him dem suppose call the HEAD MASTER grin

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