This igbos are a very foolish set of people sha see them badmouthing nobel prize because their fellow osu couldn't get ordinary nomination before he kicked the bucket
Look at them saying no soyinka work is popular
What will they now say about Toni Morrison who is also a nobel laurette and whose works are not popular
They think the Nobel prize is like their useless chieftaincy title which they shamelessly give to anybody with momey and criminals like osisikwanu, and other drug barons..
Useless set of people

Kennyswagz1:
This igbos are a very foolish set of people sha see them badmouthing nobel prize because their fellow osu couldn't get ordinary nomination before he kicked the bucket
Look at them saying no soyinka work is popular
What will they now say about Toni Morrison who is also a nobel laurette and whose works are not popular
They think the Nobel prize is like their useless chieftaincy title which they shamelessly give to anybody with momey and criminals like osisikwanu, and other drug barons..
Useless set of people

You are in pains bro

Makuos19:

You are in pains bro

pain of what??
don't ever mention me in your life again...
Mtcheeewwwww GTFOH

Kennyswagz1:
pain of what??
don't ever mention me in your life again...
Mtcheeewwwww GTFOH

I said it..u are in pains!!!

Kennyswagz1:
a nobel laureate?

Oga leave award....we know how it works.....Kanu got the awards but will you say he was better than Jay Jay?

Kennyswagz1:
This igbos are a very foolish set of people sha see them badmouthing nobel prize because their fellow osu couldn't get ordinary nomination before he kicked the bucket
Look at them saying no soyinka work is popular
What will they now say about Toni Morrison who is also a nobel laurette and whose works are not popular
They think the Nobel prize is like their useless chieftaincy title which they shamelessly give to anybody with momey and criminals like osisikwanu, and other drug barons..
Useless set of people

Oga Goan carry drugs so you can come and collect like four tittles too

GermanPoison:
keep deluding yourself d award is being presented by the norwegian parliament and they appoints the norwegian nobel committee , which selects the nobel peace prize laureate

Many winners of the Nobel prizes have publicly said that their works never merited the award (Read about this on ur own)

No de deceive una self, it's just an award and the organizers gives it out to whom they want.

Jblaiseboy:

Oga Goan carry drugs so you can come and collect like four tittles too

God forbid

PrecisionFx:


Many winners of the Nobel prizes have publicly said that their works never merited the award (Read about this on ur own)

No de deceive una self, it's just an award and the organizers gives it out to whom they want.

oga mention the winners who said so

Jblaiseboy:

Oga leave award....we know how it works.....Kanu got the awards but will you say he was better than Jay Jay?

how does this nonsense you just said relate to literature??
We are talking about literature and this uche here is bringing football

Kennyswagz1:
how does this nonsense you just said relate to literature??
We are talking about literature and this uche here is bringing football

Baba am giving you examples of how unbalanced life is in being recognized..

Kennyswagz1:
waht is this fool talking about
I asked, rhapsody of reality by oyakhilome has been translated into hundreds of languages.. does that make it an influential book..
Mumu flat-head..
That nobel prize go ever dey pain una because your achebe nor even fit get ordinary nomination bfor him kick the bucket..

Keep quoting me.
You are beneath who I would have an intellectual discussion with.

Amateur bigot.

RTSC:

Keep quoting me.
You are beneath who I would have an intellectual discussion with.

Amateur bigot.

lol.. Foolish igbo boy who is resting on his bed after hawking CD plates with cart today in the hot sun coming here to form intellectual. Nonsense and ingredients

Jblaiseboy:

Baba am giving you examples of how unbalanced life is in being recognized..

which useless example? Ok let's forget about soyinka.. what about Toni Morrison, the only black female nobel laurette in literature.. is achebe also better than her?

Kennyswagz1:
lol.. Foolish igbo boy who is resting on his bed after hawking CD plates with cart today in the hot sun;Dcoming here to form intellectual. Nonsense and ingredients

Your pathetic reality is yours and yours alone.

You will never be bigger than you are currently.

You.don't have it in you.
Amateur bigot.

RTSC:

Your pathetic reality is yours and yours alone.

You will never be bigger than you are currently.

You.don't have it in you.
Amateur bigot.

lol..let me leave you to rest cause I know tomorrow is another day for your to hawk CD plates ..lmao

Kennyswagz1:
lol..let me leave you to rest cause I know tomorrow is another day for your to hawk CD plates ..lmao

How old are you?
17, 18?
Go to school, get an education,wisdom and age.

Amateur bigot playing at the game of men.
Yeye dey smell.

RTSC:

How old are you?
17, 18?
Go to school, get an education,wisdom and age.

Amateur bigot playing at the game of men.
Yeye dey smell.

abeg bye bye.. i am busy on another thread now.. dont quote me again please

At the end, Achebe is greater!!!

megacity:
Yes Achebe was indeed a great man. In Things Fall Apart, he told a very important story: the African Man's own side of the story. In Part 1, he showed clearly that Africans lived in well organized societies before they had any contact whatsoever with the White Man - they had their religion, they had their culture, they had morals, and they had sports!

The Europeans' account was that Africans lived like semi-animals prior to their entry into Africa. This was a lie. It was so important to tell our own side of the story and this is what Achebe did for us in Things Fall Apart

You nailed it. �

PrecisionFx:


Many winners of the Nobel prizes have publicly said that their works never merited the award (Read about this on ur own)

No de deceive una self, it's just an award and the organizers gives it out to whom they want.

then if it is just an award why d wailing

Makuos19:
At the end, Achebe is greater!!!

keep deceiving urself world best(soyinka) better pass African best(achebe)

GermanPoison:
then if it is just an award why d wailing

No one is wailing.

Simply stating the obvious...Wole na small boy to Achebe

PrecisionFx:


No one is wailing.

Simply stating the obvious...Wole na small boy to Achebe

bro dat award called nobel prize is for a great person so Achebe na small boy for were Wole dey

GermanPoison:
bro dat award called nobel prize is for a great person so Achebe na small boy for were Wole dey

Nope. Nobel prize is an award created by white men and they give it to whom they like.

They don't give it to people who write again western influence.

The only way to compare Wole Soyinka and Chinua Achebe is to compare their works. Chinua Achebes master piece called Things fall apart has sold over 10 million copies and is still selling years after he passed on. It has also been translated to 50 foreign languages and read in many institutions world wide.........That's how u know the big boys........Wole Soyinka cannot dream of such a feat

PrecisionFx:


Nope. Nobel prize is an award created by white men and they give it to whom they like.

They don't give it to people who write again western influence.

The only way to compare Wole Soyinka and Chinua Achebe is to compare their works. Chinua Achebes master piece called Things fall apart has sold over 10 million copies and is still selling years after he passed on. It has also been translated to 50 foreign languages and read in many institutions world wide.........That's how u know the big boys........Wole Soyinka cannot dream of such a feat

Ignorance!!!

Soyinka favored African traditions over Western traditions in many of his plays such as Lion and the Jewel where Baroka (representing African values) defeated Lakunle (representing Western values).

Soyinka refused to adopt Western religions. None of his children bear Western names. Many of his works embody the Yoruba culture. For example, his work Death and the King's Horseman focuses on honorable suicide prevalent in pre and colonial era. Soyinka has called out Christian many times and proudly calls Ogun (the Yoruba god of war) his patron saint. Many of his works feature the power of Ogun. For instance, in his The Interpreters he ropes the pantheon of Yorubaland into his work. Soyinka is too deep, too philosophical. A bulk of his works are not for average readers.

However, Achebe is more the Western puppet. His Things Fall Apart shows Africans to be wild, animalistic, and inferior to the whites. In the end, the embodiment of African values (Okonkwo) loses while Christianity and the white missionaries win. Things like this don't happen in Soyinka's works because Soyinka focuses more on the strengths of the African values.

Achebe is very lucky to have written Things Fall Apart at the time he did. The whites like the book because it doesn't paint them in bad light. Rather, it paints them as saviors of the animalistic and brutal African race. The whites stopped the brutal and animalistic African warrior (Okonkwo), destroyed our culture (which Achebe painted as devilish and backward) and installed Christianity (which Achebe described as beautiful and great).

If at all, Achebe is the Western puppet. He didn't win the Nobel prize because he was not good enough. He is not on the same intellectual level as Soyinka. He is far below Soyinka.

And for a parting shot: Toni Morrison wrote against racism, and so did Nadine Gordimer. Why then did they still win the Nobel prize for writing against racism which the Whites instituted?

Know this today: the Nobel prize committee is not a party of average readers. They don't give awards to mainstream novels. Mainstream novels are always popular because they are always in simple English with simple plots that any idiot can understand. A bulk of Soyinka's books are hard to get into hence the reason why he is not popular. His books sound foreign and thus do not fall into the stereotype of what an African book should read like.

Trash...
Even Achebe couldn't have said this...The op is obviously idle and jobless..

BluntBoy:


Ignorance!!!

Soyinka favored African traditions over Western traditions in many of his plays such as Lion and the Jewel where Baroka (representing African values) defeated Lakunle (representing Western values).

Soyinka refused to adopt Western religions. None of his children bear Western names. Many of his works embody the Yoruba culture. For example, his work Death and the King's Horseman focuses on honorable suicide prevalent in pre and colonial era. Soyinka has called out Christian many times and proudly calls Ogun (the Yoruba god of war) his patron saint. Many of his works feature the power of Ogun. For instance, in his The Interpreters he ropes the pantheon of Yorubaland into his work. Soyinka is too deep, too philosophical. A bulk of his works are not for average readers.

However, Achebe is more the Western puppet. His Things Fall Apart shows Africans to be wild, animalistic, and inferior to the whites. In the end, the embodiment of African values (Okonkwo) loses while Christianity and the white missionaries win. Things like this don't happen in Soyinka's works because Soyinka focuses more on the strengths of the African values.

Achebe is very lucky to have written Things Fall Apart at the time he did. The whites like the book because it doesn't paint them in bad light. Rather, it paints them as saviors of the animalistic and brutal African race. The whites stopped the brutal and animalistic African warrior (Okonkwo), destroyed our culture (which Achebe painted as devilish and backward) and installed Christianity (which Achebe described as beautiful and great).

If at all, Achebe is the Western puppet. He didn't win the Nobel prize because he was not good enough. He is not on the same intellectual level as Soyinka. He is far below Soyinka.

And for a parting shot: Toni Morrison wrote against racism, and so did Nadine Gordimer. Why then did they still win the Nobel prize for writing against racism which the Whites instituted?

Know this today: the Nobel prize committee is not a party of average readers. They don't give awards to mainstream novels. Mainstream novels are always popular because they are always in simple English with simple plots that any idiot can understand. A bulk of Soyinka's books are hard to get into hence the reason why he is not popular. His books sound foreign and thus do not fall into the stereotype of what an African book should read like.

""If at all, Achebe is the Western puppet. He didn't win the Nobel prize because he was not good enough. He is not on the same intellectual level as Soyinka. He is far below Soyinka.""

Normal empty post. Chinua Achebes work beats Wole Soyinkas works hands down in all ramifications. Mention Wole Soyinkas work that sold on millions or was translated into many languages or keep mute.....Don't leave mentioned points n start ranting.





""However, Achebe is more the Western puppet.""

PrecisionFx:






""If at all, Achebe is the Western puppet. He didn't win the Nobel prize because he was not good enough. He is not on the same intellectual level as Soyinka. He is far below Soyinka.""

Normal empty post. Chinua Achebes work beats Wole Soyinkas works hands down in all ramifications. Mention Wole Soyinkas work that sold on millions or was translated into many languages or keep mute.....Don't leave mentioned points n start ranting.





""However, Achebe is more the Western puppet.""

You are very ignorant. How many bestsellers are great authors? Is Dan Brown regarded as a great author simply because he is a bestseller?

Chinua Achebe is way below Wole Soyinka. Read this:

Such pointed dissents from multiculturalist orthodoxy may explain the strange fact that although Soyinka is, by most accounts, a better and more interesting writer than Achebe, he is not nearly so well known. His marvelous plays are rarely assigned in Western classrooms.
https://www.claremont.org/crb/article/up-from-colonialism/

Wole Soyinka is by many accounts a better and more interesting writer than Achebe but was not as well known. The very same reason that Toni Morrison is way better than JK Rowling but not as well known. It is also the very reason why Dan Brown with all his grammatical blunders and historical and scientific inaccuracies is more well known than William Golding or Ernest Hemingway.

Book sales has nothing to do with how good you are. Even Oyakhilome's Rhapsody of Realities sells more copies than Things Fall Apart. Does that make Oyakhilome a better author than Achebe?

You can see how flawed your argument is

BluntBoy:


You are very ignorant. How many bestsellers are great authors? Is Dan Brown regarded as a great author simply because he is a bestseller?

Chinua Achebe is way below Wole Soyinka. Read this:

Such pointed dissents from multiculturalist orthodoxy may explain the strange fact that although Soyinka is, by most accounts, a better and more interesting writer than Achebe, he is not nearly so well known. His marvelous plays are rarely assigned in Western classrooms.
https://www.claremont.org/crb/article/up-from-colonialism/

Wole Soyinka is by many accounts a better and more interesting writer than Achebe but was not as well known. The very same reason that Toni Morrison is way better than JK Rowling but not as well known. It is also the very reason why Dan Brown with all his grammatical blunders and historical and scientific inaccuracies is more well known than William Golding or Ernest Hemingway.

Book sales has nothing to do with how good you are. Even Oyakhilome's Rhapsody of Realities sells more copies than Things Fall Apart. Does that make Oyakhilome a better author than Achebe?

You can see how flawed your argument is

""His marvelous plays are rarely assigned in Western classrooms.""

This simply means that Wole Soyinka isn't good enough.





""Even Oyakhilome's Rhapsody of Realities sells more copies than Things Fall Apart.""


Don't be intentionally daft. Goan look for other religious books to compare rhapsody of reality. Bring Soyinkas work n compare with Achebe's work, Or are u afraid of doing that?

PrecisionFx:







""His marvelous plays are rarely assigned in Western classrooms.""

This simply means that Wole Soyinka isn't good enough.





""Even Oyakhilome's Rhapsody of Realities sells more copies than Things Fall Apart.""


Don't be intentionally daft. Goan look for other religious books to compare rhapsody of reality. Bring Soyinkas work n compare with Achebe's work, Or are u afraid of doing that?

what of Toni Morrison. Is achebe better than Toni Morrison??