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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 6:43am On Jan 07, 2020
Nickshrapnel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_vJhUAOFpI
Ugh...

5/10.

Looks like a tv movie. No iconic costumes shown. No display power for Cecilia Reyes. The Wolfsbane wasn't in full form.

Obviously I want them to prove me wrong but for now, this trailer is a fat ...MEH..
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by 1000WaysToLive(m): 6:50am On Jan 07, 2020
I will miss them cry

Vic2Ree:
hulk616 & dragonflyy seem to have been escorted from the building
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by 1000WaysToLive(m): 6:52am On Jan 07, 2020
I'm not sure Spiderman would be considered big after getting Fox Studios.


Plus Spidey kind of falls under Marvel.

I think Sony is going to wake up and end up selling Spidey back to Disney.

They just don't have to much going on for them right now.

Cottonmouth:
Disney Not Planning Another Marvel or Star Wars-Level Acquisition Anytime Soon

“Well, I never say never,” Iger told BBC Radio’s The Media Show when asked if he might broker another mega-acquisition before his contract expires at the end of 2021. “But I think given the fact we’ve only recently made a big one [Fox], and we’re still absorbing that, and given the fact that I don’t have much time left in this role, I think it’s probably unlikely that another big one occurs.”

https://comicbook.com/movies/2019/11/02/disney-not-planning-another-marvel-star-wars-level-acquisition-purchase-ceo-bob-iger-exit/?

sounds like we're going to have to wait maybe till 2021 at least to see if Disney makes a play for Spider-Man. Would Spider-Man be considered "another big one"?
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nickshrapnel: 7:00am On Jan 07, 2020
IAmSabrina:

Ugh...

5/10.

Looks like a tv movie. No iconic costumes shown. No display power for Cecilia Reyes. The Wolfsbane wasn't in full form.

Obviously I want them to prove me wrong but for now, this trailer is a fat ...MEH..
I honestly just want too see it because it’s an X-men movie and it’s horror

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by MJBOLT: 7:16am On Jan 07, 2020
as long as Spider man is still a box office power house,Sony wont sell it back.

1000WaysToLive:


I think Sony is going to wake up and end up selling Spidey back to Disney.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by pu7pl3(m): 7:19am On Jan 07, 2020
1000WaysToLive:
I'm not sure Spiderman would be considered big after getting Fox Studios.


Plus Spidey kind of falls under Marvel.

I think Sony is going to wake up and end up selling Spidey back to Disney.

[They just don't have to much going on for them right now.



This is a very very wrong and uneducated assumption,please stop

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 7:29am On Jan 07, 2020
Spider-Man film rights are probably just like 3% compare to what they got from buying Fox. Like it'd be a good thing for Marvel and Disney's film division. But itsnot like acquiring a major company with tv/film studios and cable networks.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Darkprime(m): 7:32am On Jan 07, 2020
Cottonmouth:
Disney Not Planning Another Marvel or Star Wars-Level Acquisition Anytime Soon

“Well, I never say never,” Iger told BBC Radio’s The Media Show when asked if he might broker another mega-acquisition before his contract expires at the end of 2021. “But I think given the fact we’ve only recently made a big one [Fox], and we’re still absorbing that, and given the fact that I don’t have much time left in this role, I think it’s probably unlikely that another big one occurs.”

https://comicbook.com/movies/2019/11/02/disney-not-planning-another-marvel-star-wars-level-acquisition-purchase-ceo-bob-iger-exit/?

sounds like we're going to have to wait maybe till 2021 at least to see if Disney makes a play for Spider-Man. Would Spider-Man be considered "another big one"?
Miramax's library of film is on sale. 800+ titles, full of AA winners and critically well received movies that would greatly add to Hulu's library especially as NBCU and Warner pull their content. Cost? About 325MM. Honestly a much better - and cheaper - purchase than SM movie rights.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 7:40am On Jan 07, 2020
Darkprime:

Miramax's library of film is on sale. 800+ titles, full of AA winners and critically well received movies that would greatly add to Hulu's library especially as NBCU and Warner pull their content. Cost? About 325MM. Honestly a much better - and cheaper - purchase than SM movie rights.
I thought MiramaX was owned by Disney. I don't really know a lot of MiramaX movies butI can guess having those 800+ titles would be good for any streaming services.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Cottonmouth: 7:46am On Jan 07, 2020
Do some of you think Sony will make Venom 2 R-rated now after Joker proved to be so successful?
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Vic2Ree(m): 7:52am On Jan 07, 2020
Cottonmouth:
Do some of you think Sony will make Venom 2 R-rated now after Joker proved to be so successful?
Nah they probably discussed it at some point but I highly doubt it. Aren’t they close to shooting it?
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 8:40am On Jan 07, 2020
Vic2Ree:
hulk616 & dragonflyy seem to have been escorted from the building
undecided
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 8:44am On Jan 07, 2020
Cottonmouth:
Do some of you think Sony will make Venom 2 R-rated now after Joker proved to be so successful?
Nooooo
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Darkprime(m): 11:26am On Jan 07, 2020
Cottonmouth:
Do some of you think Sony will make Venom 2 R-rated now after Joker proved to be so successful?
Only if Marvel allows them. The contract specifies the movies have to be PG-13 or lower. Disney/Marvel would have to approve an "R" rated movie from the license if Sony wants to go that route.

13.a. SPE Creative and Business Control Over Productions. SPE shall have total creative and business control, in its sole discretion, over all matters relating to each Production and the development, production, creative content, marketing, distribution and other exploitation thereof, including without limitation total creative control and discretion regarding the depiction of the Property (and all elements thereof) in each such Production and in all marketing, advertising and promotional materials for each Production (and Marvel shall have no rights of approval or control with respect to any of the foregoing), except for (i) SPE’s Character Integrity Obligations with respect to Core Elements under Section 13.c(ii) hereof, (ii) the $75 million minimum production budget requirement with respect to Pictures under Section 13.e(i) below, (iii) the 2000 screen requirement with respect to Pictures under Section 13.f below, and (iv) the PG-13 (or equivalent) rating requirement under Section 13.e(ii).

13.e. Production Specifications. Each Picture produced and completed by SPE shall conform to the following production specifications:


13.e(i) The all-in, above-the-line and below-the-line production budget of the Picture shall be not less than $75,000,000.


13.e(ii) The Picture shall qualify for an MPAA rating no more restrictive than PG-13 (or the equivalent thereof if such rating no longer exists).

IAmSabrina:

I thought MiramaX was owned by Disney. I don't really know a lot of MiramaX movies butI can guess having those 800+ titles would be good for any streaming services.
They used to. Sold them, but now it's on sale. Honestly it'd be good to have Hulu buy them and put the debt on Hulu. Movies include Pulp Fiction, No Country for Old Men, and many others. It's a good library.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by gustav25: 11:55am On Jan 07, 2020
MJBOLT:
as long as Spider man is still a box office power house,Sony wont sell it back.



How far !!! Is this your ghost or an apparition ? Didn't Obaofusa say you will not see 2020 ?

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by MJBOLT: 12:38pm On Jan 07, 2020
it's my twin brother grin

gustav25:



How far !!! Is this your ghost or an apparition ? Didn't Obaofusa say you will not see 2020 ?

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by stonemind(f): 2:01pm On Jan 07, 2020
1000WaysToLive:
I will miss them cry




Hulk616 that useless coconut head is cooling himself on DC threads... Dude is a DC fan now

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 2:06pm On Jan 07, 2020
stonemind:




Hulk616 that useless coconut head is cooling himself on DC threads... Dude is a DC fan now
this 16kb brain is back and doing what he knows best. Post trash upon trash. Your 16kb brain doesn't even have a processor. How can hulk616 be a DC fan?

It's so sad you carried this brain into 2020
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by AfricaGalactic(m): 3:16pm On Jan 07, 2020
Darkprime:

They used to. Sold them, but now it's on sale. Honestly it'd be good to have Hulu buy them and put the debt on Hulu. Movies include Pulp Fiction, No Country for Old Men, and many others. It's a good library.
The Miramax library is certainly strong. But I question whether or not its 90s-centric slate would drive viewers to Hulu in sufficient numbers to justify the large expense. It would probably make more sense to invest the hundreds of millions in new potentially bingeable content. And does The Mouse want to be tied to Miramax again after being blamed for funding Weinstein's horrifying behavior during the label's heyday?

I wouldn't be surprised if, within a few years, both Hulu and ESPN Plus are consolidated into the Disney Plus App, joining Disney, Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars and National Geographic as the top brands for the streamer.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by dragonflyy(m): 3:21pm On Jan 07, 2020
stonemind:




Hulk616 that useless coconut head is cooling himself on DC threads... Dude is a DC fan now
he obviously has no social life. wasting data & spending hours unending talking trash about something he doesn't like. He's the kind of autistic fuckery that makes people see comic book fans as losers and laugh at them.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nickshrapnel: 4:51pm On Jan 07, 2020
I hope it’s not rumour

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by 1000WaysToLive(m): 5:04pm On Jan 07, 2020
Ok. I take back what I said about Sony selling Spider-Man, but outside Spider-Man, Sony really don’t have much going for them.

They’re pretty lacking overall of reliably successful IP.


Men In Black flopped, so did Ghostbusters(it’s a coin toss if the reboot this year will be successful) and they don’t have Bond anymore. Not to mention Charlie’s Angels was a massive failure.

Jumanji is really all that they have outside Spider-Man. Last year was a pretty good year for them since Brightburn and Once Upon In Hollywood, and of course Jumanji performed well, and thanks to Disney/Marvel’s help they managed to get a movie that to the billion dollar finish line with Far From Home but doesn’t escape the fact they don’t have much going for them in terms of major franchises at the moment.

Compare that to Disney which has had an embarrassment of riches when it comes to big IP that consistently delivers even outside the MCU. They have Star Wars & Pixar which you can make dozens of movies out of and literally made them billions of dollars, and even their live-action remakes like Lion King and Aladdin have been incredibly successful and also joined the billion dollar club.

pu7pl3:



This is a very very wrong and uneducated assumption,please stop

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Vic2Ree(m): 5:12pm On Jan 07, 2020
AfricaGalactic:

The Miramax library is certainly strong. But I question whether or not its 90s-centric slate would drive viewers to Hulu in sufficient numbers to justify the large expense. It would probably make more sense to invest the hundreds of millions in new potentially bingeable content. And does The Mouse want to be tied to Miramax again after being blamed for funding Weinstein's horrifying behavior during the label's heyday?

I wouldn't be surprised if, within a few years, both Hulu and ESPN Plus are consolidated into the Disney Plus App, joining Disney, Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars and National Geographic as the top brands for the streamer.
Has there been any serious discussion, not just of the Miramax films, but all the great Fox films that Disney now owns but isn't currently streaming?

I have to imagine they'd rather distribute them themselves, on their own platform than turn them over to Hulu in which they only have a partial stake.

The obvious thing would seem to be to make them part of Disney + so that's the one "must have" subscription service that no one can do without, but they clearly seem to be trying to keep that more "family friendly" (though I noticed when I was getting mine set up, their was some question related to age/parental controls, so they could introduce R-Rated movies with parents controlling what their kids can see).

They could split off a whole different platform for the more adult titles, but that would seem to counter their goal of dominance. If people have t pick and choose between subscription services, they could go with competitors. If all the Disney/Fox/Miramax titles are on one platform (even if it's partitioned in some way), that would make that single platform very attractive and competitive with other subscription services.

They MUST have a plan at this point, but has there been any public information or reliable speculation/rumors about that plan?
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Blackspider: 5:33pm On Jan 07, 2020
1000WaysToLive:
Ok. I take back what I said about Sony selling Spider-Man, but outside Spider-Man, Sony really don’t have much going for them.

They’re pretty lacking overall of reliably successful IP.


Men In Black flopped, so did Ghostbusters(it’s a coin toss if the reboot this year will be successful) and they don’t have Bond anymore. Not to mention Charlie’s Angels was a massive failure.

Jumanji is really all that they have outside Spider-Man. Last year was a pretty good year for them since Brightburn and Once Upon In Hollywood, and of course Jumanji performed well, and thanks to Disney/Marvel’s help they managed to get a movie that to the billion dollar finish line with Far From Home but doesn’t escape the fact they don’t have much going for them in terms of major franchises at the moment.

Compare that to Disney which has had an embarrassment of riches when it comes to big IP that consistently delivers even outside the MCU. They have Star Wars & Pixar which you can make dozens of movies out of and literally made them billions of dollars, and even their live-action remakes like Lion King and Aladdin have been incredibly successful and also joined the billion dollar club.

Disney doesn't have as much IP as WB, they just have the luck of nostalgia and well known few IP rn. Apart from Star wars, Pixar and marvel, what other IP do they have save Avatar(acquired)?
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by dragonking2: 5:42pm On Jan 07, 2020
1000WaysToLive:
Ok. I take back what I said about Sony selling Spider-Man, but outside Spider-Man, Sony really don’t have much going for them.

They’re pretty lacking overall of reliably successful IP.


Men In Black flopped, so did Ghostbusters(it’s a coin toss if the reboot this year will be successful) and they don’t have Bond anymore. Not to mention Charlie’s Angels was a massive failure.

Jumanji is really all that they have outside Spider-Man. Last year was a pretty good year for them since Brightburn and Once Upon In Hollywood, and of course Jumanji performed well, and thanks to Disney/Marvel’s help they managed to get a movie that to the billion dollar finish line with Far From Home but doesn’t escape the fact they don’t have much going for them in terms of major franchises at the moment.

Compare that to Disney which has had an embarrassment of riches when it comes to big IP that consistently delivers even outside the MCU. They have Star Wars & Pixar which you can make dozens of movies out of and literally made them billions of dollars, and even their live-action remakes like Lion King and Aladdin have been incredibly successful and also joined the billion dollar club.


Let me point out some facts for you;

Sony has the number 1 prize in terms of marvel and that's spiderman.

Sony just made Venom-verse a hit even without spiderman and under heavy negative criticism from mcu critics/stans.

Also, Sony's Spiderman has always made money, irrespective of what the media wants you to believe....Disney tricked them for creative assistance to get merch sales rights, that which they regret now.

Jumaji is highly successful and known as the Star wars killer/crippler....OUATIH is a financial and critical hit.... It also has huge chances at the oscars unlike Disney that has relatively few chances with the exception of the animations.

Apart from remakes, Disney had nothing, that's why they needed to buy the likes of Pixar, Marvel, Fox, Lucas to stay alive. Big fact!!!

Recently, Sony just purchased the rights to some valiant comic characters like Bloodshot etc.

With the right directors/producers and good script, they can also use these newly acquired comic characters and cause some threat to the MCU/DCEU....The Boys series by amazon is a perfect example.

They did brightburn which is a rip-off superman in another level and people loved it. They are making a sequel to this film.

They have a lot of original movies like escape room which people are waiting for a sequel.

Their originality is what makes them to be amongst the fore runners during awards season.

Finally, IMO sony's spiderman is the major reason Marvel has always been on the oscars board. (Forget about the political award given to BP last year)

Sony has always brought pride to marvel and its fans in respects to awards season, something that alludes Disney's marvel...Bitter pill to swallow but true.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by dragonking2: 5:43pm On Jan 07, 2020
Blackspider:
Disney doesn't have as much IP as WB, they just have the luck of nostalgia and well known few IP rn. Apart from Star wars, Pixar and marvel, what other IP do they have save Avatar(acquired)?

If they didn't buy those studios, maybe Disney would have been on sale by now. Lol

Bob Iger did a good job in saving that studio through these purchases, unfortunately, he will be leaving next year
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by pu7pl3(m): 5:49pm On Jan 07, 2020
1000WaysToLive:
Ok. I take back what I said about Sony selling Spider-Man, but outside Spider-Man, Sony really don’t have much going for them.

They’re pretty lacking overall of reliably successful IP.


Men In Black flopped, so did Ghostbusters(it’s a coin toss if the reboot this year will be successful) and they don’t have Bond anymore. Not to mention Charlie’s Angels was a massive failure.

Jumanji is really all that they have outside Spider-Man. Last year was a pretty good year for them since Brightburn and Once Upon In Hollywood, and of course Jumanji performed well, and thanks to Disney/Marvel’s help they managed to get a movie that to the billion dollar finish line with Far From Home but doesn’t escape the fact they don’t have much going for them in terms of major franchises at the moment.

Compare that to Disney which has had an embarrassment of riches when it comes to big IP that consistently delivers even outside the MCU. They have Star Wars & Pixar which you can make dozens of movies out of and literally made them billions of dollars, and even their live-action remakes like Lion King and Aladdin have been incredibly successful and also joined the billion dollar club.



TheKingishere please can you help me with that Disney Q3 and please also do help me elaborate side by side with Sony.....these "unoriginal" billions are making some people say things that don't make no sense
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 5:49pm On Jan 07, 2020
[s]
dragonflyy:

he obviously has no social life. wasting data & spending hours unending talking trash about something he doesn't like. He's the kind of autistic fuckery that makes people see comic book fans as losers and laugh at them.
[/s] see painment cheesy grin you are just talking trash about someone you don't know
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Blackspider: 5:51pm On Jan 07, 2020
dragonking2:


If they didn't buy those studios, maybe Disney would have been on sale by now. Lol

Bob Iger did a good job in saving that studio through these purchases, unfortunately, he will be leaving next year
Wait bro, tell me you are joking? I thought it was Kathleen Kennedy that's leaving? In as much as I don't like Disney business ways, I do love iger. I hope they don't drop like WB did after Alan horn left.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by dragonking2: 5:59pm On Jan 07, 2020
pu7pl3:



TheKingishere please can you help me with that Disney Q3 and please also do help me elaborate side by side with Sony.....these billions are making some people say things that don't make sense


Disney uses these so-called billions to deceive people.

TROS will make a billion and people will think, yeah, Disney dey chop money.

Not knowing that Disney will make little to no profit from that movie.

Same with a lot of their so-called billion dollars film.

Imaging blaming Dark phoenix for causing losses when you have been bragging about Huge billions in Endgame, Captain Marvel, Toystory 4, Lion King, Aladin etc? Where did the huge money go?

Until people wake up, Disney will continue with the deceit.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by dragonking2: 6:01pm On Jan 07, 2020
Blackspider:
Wait bro, tell me you are joking? I thought it was Kathleen Kennedy that's leaving? In as much as I don't like Disney business ways, I do love iger. I hope they don't drop like WB did after Alan horn left.


Bob Iger is leaving next year as the CEO of Disney.

That guy single-highhandedly saved Disney from doom.

What's left of the future is unknown, but he did well for disney

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by pu7pl3(m): 6:03pm On Jan 07, 2020
dragonking2:


Disney uses these so-called billions to deceive people.

TROS will make a billion and people will think, yeah, Disney dey chop money.

Not knowing that Disney will make little to no profit from that movie.

Same with a lot of their so-called billion dollars film.

Imaging blaming Dark phoenix for causing losses when you have been bragging about Huge billions in Endgame, Captain Marvel, Toystory 4, Lion King, Aladin etc? Where did the huge money go?

Until people wake up, Disney will continue with the deceit.



Thank you..
There you have it guuuy(1000WaysToLive)...you can't just come and say Sony has nothing going for them when it's Disney that keeps making losses

Maybe next year they will announce a Mickey mouse live action or even Frozen live action,just to keep the regurgitation alive

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