Blackspider:
Wait bro, tell me you are joking? I thought it was Kathleen Kennedy that's leaving? In as much as I don't like Disney business ways, I do love iger. I hope they don't drop like WB did after Alan horn left.

Blackspider:
Wait bro, tell me you are joking? I thought it was Kathleen Kennedy that's leaving? In as much as I don't like Disney business ways, I do love iger. I hope they "don't drop like WB" did after Alan horn left.

dragonking2:


Bob Iger is leaving next year as the CEO of Disney.

That guy single-highhandedly saved Disney from doom.

What's left of the future is unknown, but he did well for disney

dragonking2:


I forgot to add that Disney has kept this news on the extremely low-key so that MCU fans/SW fans don't panic.

Many don't even know that this is happening

I am sure mcu fans are okay with feige but SW would panic. Did you see the news that the next SW would be set 400 years in the past? Game of thrones style

hulk616:
[s][/s] see painment you are just talking trash about someone you don't know

1000WaysToLive:
Ok. I take back what I said about Sony selling Spider-Man, but outside Spider-Man, Sony really don’t have much going for them.

They’re pretty lacking overall of reliably successful IP.


Men In Black flopped, so did Ghostbusters(it’s a coin toss if the reboot this year will be successful) and they don’t have Bond anymore. Not to mention Charlie’s Angels was a massive failure.

Jumanji is really all that they have outside Spider-Man. Last year was a pretty good year for them since Brightburn and Once Upon In Hollywood, and of course Jumanji performed well, and thanks to Disney/Marvel’s help they managed to get a movie that to the billion dollar finish line with Far From Home but doesn’t escape the fact they don’t have much going for them in terms of major franchises at the moment.

Compare that to Disney which has had an embarrassment of riches when it comes to big IP that consistently delivers even outside the MCU. They have Star Wars & Pixar which you can make dozens of movies out of and literally made them billions of dollars, and even their live-action remakes like Lion King and Aladdin have been incredibly successful and also joined the billion dollar club.

dragonflyy:

lmao. I don't need to know you personally to know you're a pathetic loser actually. your pattern of posts reveal everything

dragonking2:


Let me point out some facts for you;

Sony has the number 1 prize in terms of marvel and that's spiderman.

Sony just made Venom-verse a hit even without spiderman and under heavy negative criticism from mcu critics/stans.

Also, Sony's Spiderman has always made money, irrespective of what the media wants you to believe....Disney tricked them for creative assistance to get merch sales rights, that which they regret now.

Jumaji is highly successful and known as the Star wars killer/crippler....OUATIH is a financial and critical hit.... It also has huge chances at the oscars unlike Disney that has relatively few chances with the exception of the animations.

Apart from remakes, Disney had nothing, that's why they needed to buy the likes of Pixar, Marvel, Fox, Lucas to stay alive. Big fact!!!

Recently, Sony just purchased the rights to some valiant comic characters like Bloodshot etc.

With the right directors/producers and good script, they can also use these newly acquired comic characters and cause some threat to the MCU/DCEU....The Boys series by amazon is a perfect example.

They did brightburn which is a rip-off superman in another level and people loved it. They are making a sequel to this film.

They have a lot of original movies like escape room which people are waiting for a sequel.

Their originality is what makes them to be amongst the fore runners during awards season.

Finally, IMO sony's spiderman is the major reason Marvel has always been on the oscars board. (Forget about the political award given to BP last year)

Sony has always brought pride to marvel and its fans in respects to awards season, something that alludes Disney's marvel...Bitter pill to swallow but true.

dragonking2:


Disney uses these so-called billions to deceive people.

Xavier5:

[s]A.) Bro, it's not about grossing billions, it's about making Profit. Grossing billions doesn't mean a movie makes high profit, as a matter of fact a movie that didn't gross billions may be more profitable than a movie that crossed one billions. Take for instance;

* Joker is the most profitable Comic book movie. It made more profit than Endgame that grossed $2.7b despite it grossing $1b.

** WB rarely gets billion dollar grosser movies yet they are among the top 3 largest movie studios in the world, why? because they make profit.

*** Disney had loss this year which they blamed in Dark Phoenix (which is ridiculous) despite all the billion dollar grossing movies they had, why? less profit, why? because billion dollar grossing doesn't necessary mean high profit.

B.) MIB franchise isn't a failure. Because a movie in a franchise didn't gross high doesn't equate to that franchise being a failure, heck Solo: A Star War Story underperformed, did/ does that mean that the star wars franchise is a failure, of course not, so that's the same case with MIB.
Besides MIB 4 isn't a failure, it was profitable, although little turning in $260M against a Break even point of $230M, that's a gross profit of $30M altogether.
The MIB Franchise is still a hit Franchise, all it needs is proper handling from Sony. Tick Tock.

C.) Sony has a lot of Franchise to work on, this include

1.) Sony Marvel Universe, that started off with Venom and continues with Venom 2 and Morbius.
2.) The Spiderman Franchise, this include both live action and animation, remember into the spiderverse 2 is in development.
3.) Valient Cinematic Universe (from Valient Comics) which will be properly lunched if Bloodshot becomes a success. I pray it does because I want the DCEU and MCU to have a competitor. It gonna make the CBM world a competitive one.
4.) Sony Pictures Animations which include Hotel Transylvania, Open Season , Surf's Up, Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs, The Smurfs (via Peyo ), Peter rabbit.
5.) MIB
6.) Jumanji
5.) Other Franchises which includes The Karate Kid, Ghostbusters, Stuart Little , Men in Black,
Underworld , Robert Langdon, Sniper,
Charlie's Angels, Bad boys among others. Some of this franchise may not be hit, that doesn't mean they can't, all they need is proper handling and development.

So Sweetheart, you saying Sony doesn't have Franchises to work with isn't true, not at all.

D.) If you are looking for Disney to buy Spiderman from Sony, then bro, you have to wait till when Nairaland buys Facebook which of course is impossible. Sony can never sell Spiderman not in this age of CBM boom. No reasonable company will do it. Rather they will seek to acquire more which is what they've done with Valiant comics (film rights).

Beside, for Disney to buy Spiderman, they have to buy Sony Pictures which won't be happening if not impossible. Sony is among the Big five movie studios in Hollywood and also among the top 6 largest movie studios in the world. They are no small company. We are talking about Sony Motion pictures, a subsidiary of Sony Entertainment, a subsidiary of Sony Corporation, a Japanese mega conglomerate, that's not Disney's mate. Sony pictures is a big one for Disney. They have the financial strength to stand on their own. It's not all companies Disney can buy and Sony just like WB and Universal is one of them. If Disney could buy Sony they would have done it a long time but they can't, so the highest they could do is going into partnership with them for Spiderman which Sony is still making shakara .

E.) I drop my pen at this Juncture.

#Xavier.
#I_Am_A_DCian[/s]

F0REVERB0SS:
Getting SM in the MCU for good, would be great IMO, but certainly not necessary. Venom did do quite well. Even though it got panned, I know a lot of people who liked it and got a kick out of it. Will the success continue? Maybe. Jumanji also did quite well. I went and saw it and rather enjoyed it, but I doubt that Disney is overly concerned by it's box office numbers; not when they have a movie that has been #1 at the BO for about 2 1/2 weeks and is quickly closing in on $500M domestically. I'm sure they are wishing all of their movies were so crippled. LOL.

Sony has certainly had its successes and I acknowledge that, but that doesn't mean it will (or won't) continue. We'll all have to sit back and see.

Xavier5:

A.) Bro, it's not about grossing billions, it's about making Profit. Grossing billions doesn't mean a movie makes high profit, as a matter of fact a movie that didn't gross billions may be more profitable than a movie that crossed one billions. Take for instance;

* Joker is the most profitable Comic book movie. It made more profit than Endgame that grossed $2.7b despite it grossing $1b.

** WB rarely gets billion dollar grosser movies yet they are among the top 3 largest movie studios in the world, why? because they make profit.

*** Disney had loss this year which they blamed in Dark Phoenix (which is ridiculous) despite all the billion dollar grossing movies they had, why? less profit, why? because billion dollar grossing doesn't necessary mean high profit.

B.) MIB franchise isn't a failure. Because a movie in a franchise didn't gross high doesn't equate to that franchise being a failure, heck Solo: A Star War Story underperformed, did/ does that mean that the star wars franchise is a failure, of course not, so that's the same case with MIB.
Besides MIB 4 isn't a failure, it was profitable, although little turning in $260M against a Break even point of $230M, that's a gross profit of $30M altogether.
The MIB Franchise is still a hit Franchise, all it needs is proper handling from Sony. Tick Tock.

C.) Sony has a lot of Franchise to work on, this include

1.) Sony Marvel Universe, that started off with Venom and continues with Venom 2 and Morbius.
2.) The Spiderman Franchise, this include both live action and animation, remember into the spiderverse 2 is in development.
3.) Valient Cinematic Universe (from Valient Comics) which will be properly lunched if Bloodshot becomes a success. I pray it does because I want the DCEU and MCU to have a competitor. It gonna make the CBM world a competitive one.
4.) Sony Pictures Animations which include Hotel Transylvania, Open Season , Surf's Up, Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs, The Smurfs (via Peyo ), Peter rabbit.
5.) MIB
6.) Jumanji
5.) Other Franchises which includes The Karate Kid, Ghostbusters, Stuart Little , Men in Black,
Underworld , Robert Langdon, Sniper,
Charlie's Angels, Bad boys among others. Some of this franchise may not be hit, that doesn't mean they can't, all they need is proper handling and development.

So Sweetheart, you saying Sony doesn't have Franchises to work with isn't true, not at all.

D.) If you are looking for Disney to buy Spiderman from Sony, then bro, you have to wait till when Nairaland buys Facebook which of course is impossible. Sony can never sell Spiderman not in this age of CBM boom. No reasonable company will do it. Rather they will seek to acquire more which is what they've done with Valiant comics (film rights).

Beside, for Disney to buy Spiderman, they have to buy Sony Pictures which won't be happening if not impossible. Sony is among the Big five movie studios in Hollywood and also among the top 6 largest movie studios in the world. They are no small company. We are talking about Sony Motion pictures, a subsidiary of Sony Entertainment, a subsidiary of Sony Corporation, a Japanese mega conglomerate, that's not Disney's mate. Sony pictures is a big one for Disney. They have the financial strength to stand on their own. It's not all companies Disney can buy and Sony just like WB and Universal is one of them. If Disney could buy Sony they would have done it a long time but they can't, so the highest they could do is going into partnership with them for Spiderman which Sony is still making shakara .

E.) I drop my pen at this Juncture.

#Xavier.
#I_Am_A_DCian

Cottonmouth:

Wow. The trolling is real. Holy shit .

The day Sony sells Spider-Man will be the day they admit defeat as a studio. Its literally the only IP thats making them money. Jumanji is not a sustainable franchise. And Venom 2 will underperform compared to the 1st one and Morbius is going to straight up flop. Does sony pay you per post?

hulk616:
a loser like you like see everybody as a loser. But reality is often disappointing. The pattern of your posts reveals a pained and confused man

Queenkofoworola:
Avengers Endgame was boring.

nyarlathotep:
I don’t know about Sony, but if Universal hasn’t lost those Namor and Hulk rights to Marvel Iike the rumours suggest then I can’t imagine the Mouse will ever get them back. For some strange reason it doesn’t seem like there’s an expiration date on those distribution rights, which is crazy.

Cottonmouth:

Wow. The trolling is real. Holy shit .

The day Sony sells Spider-Man will be the day they admit defeat as a studio. Its literally the only IP thats making them money. Jumanji is not a sustainable franchise. And Venom 2 will underperform compared to the 1st one and Morbius is going to straight up flop. Does sony pay you per post?

1000WaysToLive:
Context please...


They missed estimates on their quarterly earnings and the performance of the Fox slate was one of the legitimate reasons they gave Wall St.


It was context for the business world, not intent to rile up insecure fanboys.


It certainly wasn't the best quarter, but they beat estimates the following one.


As I said in my post to dragonking, stock up 36% on the year and about 60 billion added to their market cap the last 12 months. The other media companies can only dream of that.



As for Sony, nothing against the company personally, I'm just not wrapped up in their slate.

Compare that to Disney which has had an embarrassment of riches when it comes to big IP that consistently delivers even outside the MCU. They have Star Wars & Pixar which you can make dozens of movies out of and literally made them billions of dollars, and even their live-action remakes like Lion King and Aladdin have been incredibly successful and also joined the billion dollar club.

Where'd the money go? Everywhere

The stock price rose 36% the past year. Clear in the open for everyone to see.

Maybe it went to the Mandalorian, which is the biggest show in the world despite Disney + not being a global service yet (and despite the 'death of SW lol)

Also, when you make populast films and have a core history of making animation, why would an oscar be a consideration when those aren't the type of films that usually get noms (aside from the animation catagory)? Instead they settle for being more successful and buying studios whose films are 'worthy' of 7000 voters.

Glad you are all on the side of elitists rather then the people who vote with their wallets. A ridiculous leap on my part (?), just like your 'pride' remark which isn't nearly as important to the fandom as you'd like to project

The fact is that Sony's studio division has been rumored to be on the block for years now, with even the new CEO questioning if they have the scale to not be gobbled up.

Let's just stick to facts and try not to act childish about posters on a CBM board wanting Spider-Man to return to the biggest ongoing franchise in cinematic history. What else would you expect?


I don't need Spidey to return as an absolute, but I'm more then comfortable either way. I doubt Sony relinquishes said rights as long as the film division is owned by it's HQ in Japan, but giving up the merch revenue definitely killed the significant leverage they had. That was more desperation then being played. Under different leadership that decision may not have been made, which Sony has publicly regretted.

What made me reply your earlier post was when you said Sony has nothing going for them..so now I get it,you think cos they gave up the Spidey merch it means they are desperate for Disney to like them And not "eat" them? you think the whole of Hollywood revolves around Disney cos of the B.O. don't you? super fan,it's okay to think that way tho..and I hate to tell you this but just know it's not true okay?,there is more to Hollywood and profits than just B.O...now I feel like that uncle that told his nephew Santa wasn't real

Cottonmouth:

Wow. The trolling is real. Holy shit .

The day Sony sells Spider-Man will be the day they admit defeat as a studio. Its literally the only IP thats making them money. Jumanji is not a sustainable franchise. And Venom 2 will underperform compared to the 1st one and Morbius is going to straight up flop. Does sony pay you per post?

1000WaysToLive:
Talk about bitter

Where'd the money go? Everywhere

The stock price rose 36% the past year. Clear in the open for everyone to see.

Maybe it went to the Mandalorian, which is the biggest show in the world despite Disney + not being a global service yet (and despite the 'death of SW lol)

Also, when you make populast films and have a core history of making animation, why would an oscar be a consideration when those aren't the type of films that usually get noms (aside from the animation catagory)? Instead they settle for being more successful and buying studios whose films are 'worthy' of 7000 voters.

Glad you are all on the side of elitists rather then the people who vote with their wallets. A ridiculous leap on my part (?), just like your 'pride' remark which isn't nearly as important to the fandom as you'd like to project

The fact is that Sony's studio division has been rumored to be on the block for years now, with even the new CEO questioning if they have the scale to not be gobbled up.

Let's just stick to facts and try not to act childish about posters on a CBM board wanting Spider-Man to return to the biggest ongoing franchise in cinematic history. What else would you expect?

I don't need Spidey to return as an absolute, but I'm more then comfortable either way. I doubt Sony relinquishes said rights as long as the film division is owned by it's HQ in Japan, but giving up the merch revenue definitely killed the significant leverage they had. That was more desperation then being played. Under different leadership that decision may not have been made, which Sony has publicly regretted.


cc Pu7pl3

hulk616:
troll You think I m trolling. Please if you support LGTQ nonsense don't carry it inside MCU

Blackspider:
He was key to their launch of Disney+ though I don't know how successful that would be

Themandalorian:

Its expected not to be successful for now cos they are just launching it. You might have to give it a few years.

Blackspider:
Even with a few years gone by, I am not sure it would be as successful