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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 8:44am On Mar 13, 2020 |
pacretus:That fool is just seeking for attention. And nobody gives a flying fvck about the idiot. Nobody talks about their shitty country but he will find a way to put South Africa into the argument. Today he will talk bad about Ghana, tomorrow he will talk bad about Tanzania. What does not concern him, the white pig will put his dirty mouth inside. Anyway, Abuja is still the most planned and beautiful city in the SSA. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 8:47am On Mar 13, 2020 |
jln115:This thread Is for Tanzania, Ghana, Kenya and Nigeria. Take you stricken Xenophobic ass out of here |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:48am On Mar 13, 2020 |
Just30: Layman. You're saying what your unschooled great granny would say. When you borrow a loan from the bank to we dont say you took a debt. Money borrowed from lender is called loan and money borrowed through debentures and bonds is called debt. Kenya's loans will be paid at the pre-agreed intervals and interests, whether the oil prices collapse or not. This has nothing to do with english but economics. Upgrade your standards dummy. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 8:49am On Mar 13, 2020 |
jln115:Best in the world my ass 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:53am On Mar 13, 2020 |
Problemkid1: Ogbomosho |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 8:54am On Mar 13, 2020 |
TayserMahrii:Mtchwwe!! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 8:57am On Mar 13, 2020 |
jln115:cape town is voted as d best by telegraph travel award and it deals with a traveler's experience in a city. More like tourism experience. Not because of any index. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 9:16am On Mar 13, 2020 |
TayserMahrii:https://oec.world/en/profile/country/tza/ |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 9:43am On Mar 13, 2020 |
TayserMahrii: My argument was influence not dominance, which are two different things. Tanzania voted to recognize China instead of Taiwan in the UN during the 60s because Tanzania is friends with China also Tanzania played a monumental role to stop the UNESCO resolution that would denying Israel any rights to Temple Mount. I don't know about other countries but for Tanzania these are just examples of how non-economic influence and relations can help in pushing other nations agenda. This was my argument on how Tanzania can use it's non-economic nor military assets to push her agenda within SADC if it comes a time she is competing against SA not Tanzania being a good substitute of SA in SADC. A good example is currently Kenya and Djibouti are competing for the UN security council seat and they are both members of IGAD and COMESA. Tanzania already placed her support to Kenya and most likely other EAC also will. So this will favour the nation with the most influence with other African countries. Because Tanzania has influence in SADC, she can act as an ally to rally votes for Kenya. That was what i was talking about when I said influence. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 9:58am On Mar 13, 2020 |
jln115:I know and I gave my reasons on how Tanzania has influence in SADC due to matters which are non-economical somehow it turned into how much SA is so precious to SADC. SA has influence and Tanzania has influence but their influence affects matters differently in the region. If we put patriotism aside and use common logic we can agree that different countries have different influences in other nations. The influence that SA has in Botswana is different from what Tanzania has, like wise the influence that Tanzania has in DRC or Zambia is different from what SA has. SA can use its economic influence in DRC but Tanzania can use culture, language and the fact we are neighbors. There are agendas in SADC which if is a competition between SA and Tanzania the outcome will be in favor of SA and there are agendas that will come in favor with Tanzania. A good example, Tanzania and China are technically besties but when Tanzania decided to build its SGR it gave the contract to a Turkish firm like wise the 2000MW hydro power dam, instead of going to a Chinese company it went to an Egyptian, but China is a bigger trading partner than the two. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 10:10am On Mar 13, 2020 |
jln115: I didn't say that SA did something wrong, i was opposing the statement that we as SADC can't survive without South Africa. And it is true, trade agreement change and we can agree that the prime aim of trade is to make a profit. If Mozambique is capable of producing high end electronic, Tanzania won't buy from SA but rather Mozambique because it is cheaper. I know the importance of the SA industrial strength currently in SADC and even when SADC countries develop their own industrial economies they will still trade with SA and heck maybe in even greater volumes because not every country can produce everything they need. I just hate the way some people are painting SA as the SADC economic Jesus that we can't and won't develop unless we pass through her. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:13am On Mar 13, 2020 |
Problemkid1: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:15am On Mar 13, 2020 |
Mzal3ndo: https://www.sanews.gov.za/south-africa/sa-tanzania-boost-trade-relations the trade balance between the two countries shows South Africa's exports to Tanzania went from R3.5 billion in 2009 to R3.1 billion in 2010. On the other hand, the picture shows imports from Tanzania growing by almost 100 percent from R236 million in 2009 to R464 million in 2010. Are you saying imports from SA have dropped to the small figures you quoted? Or your source doesnt know what its talking about |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:15am On Mar 13, 2020 |
Problemkid1:Make me boy |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:16am On Mar 13, 2020 |
theenchanter:Hence why i didn't use Telegraph travel as a source |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 10:18am On Mar 13, 2020 |
tylann:Insurgency in the DRC is a giant chess game between African states and powerful individuals in the DRC, its not a thing that can just simply end unless all parties come to consensus. When Tanzania sent troop in the DRC with SA and Malawi, Tanzania-Rwanda relation hit the lowest because Rwanda was allegedly benefiting form the conflict but the FIB was able to remove the M23 which was the largest at the time and allegedly being supported by the Rwanda government. Currently the UN mandate for the FIB has ended and they are just peacekeepers but if DRC came to SADC and we came up with our own solution on this matter, the insecurity would end. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 10:21am On Mar 13, 2020 |
jln115:hence no other source claimed cape town to be d best city in d world, hence u didn't bother to reference them as ur source but i'm way smarter than thou. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:21am On Mar 13, 2020 |
TayserMahrii: i love your dumbness, it's a signature Kenyan trait every money borrowed is a debt you owe your craziness has gone beyond. well done servicing your debt when the market has gone crazy. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:21am On Mar 13, 2020 |
Mzal3ndo:Its not a matter of pride or patriotism its just simple geopolitics............unfortunately for you and as much as you are trying to punt culture, language and history the fact of the matter is South Africa is the regional power in Southern Africa and has the most influence in the region. Sorry bro, that's just the truth!! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:21am On Mar 13, 2020 |
Mzal3ndo: Influence and dominance are the same thing. The difference is the degree. Tanzania is merely influential in SADC, SA is dominant. Tz has always had an issue with a dominant country in any economic bloc. Your examples make sense but not relevant. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 10:21am On Mar 13, 2020 |
jln115:Don't tell anyone but Tanzania has monopoly over Tanzanite. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 10:22am On Mar 13, 2020 |
Just30:Working on it fam. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:23am On Mar 13, 2020 |
Just30: Dumb mvthafvcka |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 10:24am On Mar 13, 2020 |
TayserMahrii:not at all. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 10:24am On Mar 13, 2020 |
gallivant:we had other things but being Africans we kinda mismanaged them, but we learned from our mistakes and we are working on diversifying. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:24am On Mar 13, 2020 |
Mzal3ndo:I can't remember that i said SADC can't survive without SA, all i said it would have massive economical implications for SADC regions if SA left. And If Tanzania left it wouldn't have nearly the same impact!! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:25am On Mar 13, 2020 |
theenchanter: Give your version |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:26am On Mar 13, 2020 |
theenchanter:Hence why i didn't say Cape Town was the best city in the world |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:30am On Mar 13, 2020 |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:31am On Mar 13, 2020 |
theenchanter:Just give the kid a dictionary |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 10:34am On Mar 13, 2020 |
jln115:if not you then some else on this thread brought it like that. But as I have said before, no Nation in SADC can fill up SAs economic role in SADC but y'all shouldn't get arrogant about the position you have. Trade between Africans is important because it lifts Africans out of poverty, but we shouldn't get cocky because we trade more or because we have a bigger economies than other African states. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 10:34am On Mar 13, 2020 |
jln115:hence i didn't say u said it, but telegraph.... Is that English still plain? |
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