timay:


The thing is England FA never got it right in terms of recruiting the right coaches for the team during that golden era of players they had. They were consistently recruiting idiots that lacked ideas as the national team coaches. Gerrard and lampards penalty padded goal scoring stats in their clubs didn't help those coaches either. They were so fixated on having those two play together , forgetting that they are like for like sub for eachother, thereby the experiment was failing consistently. It was the same problem they had playing Terry and Ferdinand together in defence, when they are both the same styled players thereby shipping in goals anyhow.

Gerrard and Lampard are just a better version of Ross Barkely . they only know how to run and run with the ball in midfield and with little ingenuity. when everywhere is blocked, they can't improvise, they will just result in wayward shooting evrytime. that is why those two usually record a very high number of shots per game.

Go watch Lampard pass to Ramires against Barcelona, Lampard pass to Drogba against man city and so many other passes from him.

timay:


Even in their clubs , the coaches knows better than putting them in Defensive midfield, cos they don't have the positional discipline of the likes of Carrick, Scholes , Mikel etc .

So Scholes was a DM?

Swissh:

All these are Shalayes. Scholes was the definition of bad for England. He was useless even before Gerrard and lampard became mainstay for England and shamelessly retired in 2004. Ferdinand and Terry only started 15games together for England and they never shipped in goals anyhow. They conceded only 2goals through out the 2006 world cup. You don't ever know what you are talking about. Typical Scummy .

All what I said is on point. Players retire from international football for a lot of reasons and most of the times, being bad is always not the issue but it is mostly personal. Vardy retired from England not because he was bad but for personal reasons, Someone like Ighalo retired for other reasons too which does not include been bad. I'm sure guys like you will come back and use it in future arguments just to make baseless point by linking their early international football retirements to being bad.

mind you , if Scholesy was that bad like you implied, I'm sure they won't even have the need to call him out of retirement . Mtcheew

dammywapes:
They were nominated for the award fine but never won it.... Gerrard n Lampard were good but won't take them over scholesy... I know what xavi n guardiola said about scholesy

It is because Scholes play their kind of football in La Masia, but however they are not the only mout piece of football. I can also bring out what great players and coaches said about Lampard.

Expert17:


Through out the world cup, ...as if they played, all the way to the final.......

He was useless with 17 goals in 66 games playing from the wing without PK....

Lampard was useful with 29 goals in 100+ games from his position....scoring penalties....

Gerrard was useful with 21 goals in 100+ games from his position......scoring penalties

King of Scummies

You are never saying anything tangible. What have you written now.

hensben:
Go watch Lampard pass to Ramires against Barcelona, Lampard pass to Drogba against man city and so many other passes from him.

Scholes had 55 assists in 19 seasons, this is a poverty-stricken stat that would never fetch him an award from Fifa.

timay:


I'm telling you. benching natural Defensive midfielders like Carrick and scholes that can control a game for pk merchants that mostly only knows how to shoot and play pks and can't control a midfield from deep lying positions.

Before Lampard and Gerrard what did scholes win for England. Hargreeves was always getting injured. Carrick was just there like Erick Dier level. It was your attackers that were deadly and SAF’s counter attacking, cross and nod style. Your midfield struggled a lot against big teams then.

timay:

All what I said is on point. Players retire from international football for a lot of reasons and most of the times, being bad is always not the issue but it is mostly personal. Vardy retired from England not because he was bad but for personal reasons, Someone like Ighalo retired for other reasons too which does not include been bad. I'm sure guys like you will come back and use it in future arguments just to make baseless point by linking their early international football retirements to being bad.

mind you , if Scholesy was that bad like you implied, I'm sure they won't even have the need to call him out of retirement . Mtcheew

Nothing you said was on point. You lied about Ferdinand partnership with Terry, benching Scholes and all your other Shalayes. Infact your post was filled with lies. Why are you even bringing up Scholes career with England when it was failure.

airmark:




Scholes had 55 assists in 19 seasons, this is a poverty-stricken stat that would never fetch him an award from Fifa.

Imagine that guy saying Lampard just run and run so how did he now get those assist while Scholes that can spray passes like corona virus got 55 assist in 19 seasons.

airmark:


Who said this? You need to go and test for Covic 1,9.

Why are you mentioning Ramos and scoring penalties? Just to justify your hidden 4 goals in open play for club and country in the champions league? TOUGH!!!

Swissh:

You are never saying anything tangible. What have you written now.

Don't worry.

It's Man utd and Chelsea fans gist.....

Arsenal fans can't understand

hensben:
Imagine that guy saying Lampard just run and run so how did he now get those assist while Scholes that can spray passes like corona virus got 55 assist in 19 seasons.

27 trophies in 19 seasons.

Expert17:


Don't worry.

It's Man utd and Chelsea fans gist.....

Arsenal fans can't understand

It's Man United and Chelsea discussing their overrated, useless & flops called legend. Yes an Arsenal fan won't understand.

airmark:


Let's blame midfielders and leave attackers and defenders.

No penalty for Lampard to score? Poor Lampard. All those useless 1000 shots per minute nko? E no work?

Expert17:


27 trophies in 19 seasons.

Trophy is a team effort. Can you show us his individual honors vs Lampard or Gerrard.

hensben:
Lampard was playing box to box at later stage in his career, same with Gerrard for Liverpool so talk another thing.

bros playing box to box is nothing it depend on team style of play..... I'm a united fan pogba will never survive the style of play of liverpool n man city... I like talking football with you.. you remember what ose mourinho did to Mikel ? collect ball pass no comot for where i mount u where as i remember Mikel was once compared to messi he can use ball no one can doubt about that d style he play at club level later killed is style of play for the eagles

Expert17:



Benching Owen Hagreeves and Carrick for Gerrard as Defensive midfielder.. stupid coach.....

No wonder Ferdinard and Terry defence was just shipping goals anyhow

The coach thought they will be getting 2 penalties every match. They flopped like pigs

eph12:

No penalty for Lampard to score? Poor Lampard. All those useless 1000 shots per minute nko? E no work?

Lampard is just abt goals nothing more.....

He went to Mancity coudnt start.....

Meanwhile Scholes was still controlling EPL games at the age of 38/39,.... Winning EPL trophy

eph12:

No penalty for Lampard to score? Poor Lampard. All those useless 1000 shots per minute nko? E no work?

Tell me about Scholes getting chased away because of his boss, Lampard.

hensben:
Trophy is a team effort. Can you show us his individual honors vs Lampard or Gerrard.

Mention Gerrard individual honors please??

Dnt tell me 2nd world best ooo

airmark:




I know what Ronaldinho and Messi said about Lampard. I know what Uefa and Fifa said about Lampard.

You know what?

what xavi n guardiola said about scholesy is more than this.... they are talking about lampard fair play to the game here

eph12:

Why are you mentioning Ramos and scoring penalties? Just to justify your hidden 4 goals in open play for club and country in the champions league? TOUGH!!!

You were the one that brought Hazard so don't play that game.

You goofed by saying being a pk expert meant nothing more. Ronaldo is a pk expert and still a freekick expert, just like Lampard. So i don't know what informed you that i rated Lampard, Hazard and Ramos, because of being experts in pk.

Dont let me confuse you with that expert guy in wack reasoning.

three years and Kante is already a midfield legend in Chelsea.. yeye club

Nobody actually called Chelsea fans into this discussion. I don't know how these Shekpites successful brought lampard and Gerrard into this schooling I was giving Expert17.

dammywapes:
what xavi n guardiola said about scholesy is more than this.... they are talking about lampard fair play to the game here

Fairplay?

Na today opposing players dey show Messi love? Read the tweet again and ask around what they meant by 'contributions to the game'.

Ronaldinho didn't show Lampard audio love like the ones Xavi and co showed Scholes, yet he was getting 0 votes.

This is a post made by champions League official Instagram page an hour ago about the mordern great midfielder of the game. Their pk merchants were not even mentioned

But see scholes there. They think being a great midfielder is by playing 100 30yards shots per game

obainojazz:
three years and Kante is already a midfield legend in Chelsea.. yeye club

casemiro wey don collect every competition he played in for madrid self never reach.... Chelsea is not that big compare to man utd , barca , madrid

Expert17:


Lampard is just abt goals nothing more.....

He went to Mancity coudnt start.....

Meanwhile Scholes was still controlling EPL games at the age of 38/39,.... Winning EPL trophy

Lampard was shocked that a team can play without a midfielder playing 1000 shots per minute. Even the penalty that was his expertise according to airmark, they denied him. Very tough

airmark:


Tell me about Scholes getting chased away because of his boss, Lampard.

That was a mistake they regret till today. They gave the team to a mad man that was carried away by 1000 shots per minute and pk instead of playing football the proper way

imagine arsenal fans jumping into discussion , their good players had to leave dem to win the EPL n champions league e.g Henry , Van persie , fabrepass , Clichy , sagna , bayo etc

airmark:


You were the one that brought Hazard so don't play that game.

You goofed by saying being a pk expert meant nothing more. Ronaldo is a pk expert and still a freekick expert, just like Lampard. So i don't know what informed you that i rated Lampard, Hazard and Ramos, because of being experts in pk.

Dont let me confuse you with that expert guy in wack reasoning.

You still don't get that we're talking about attackers? Give your phone to your baby, he go reason better than you

obainojazz:
three years and Kante is already a midfield legend in Chelsea.. yeye club

Must be a fake legend. Where is his penalties?