Shma:
+ mombasa and eldoret.

Port Harcourt is more developed than mombassa and eldoret.fact

samorobo:


Port Harcourt is more developed than mombassa and eldoret.fact

I even doubt If Abuja can stand mombasa.

IronGalaxy:
Yawn. You seriously need to get laid ape. Lmfao

Your retorts are as boring as your life and as weak as your national economy. Remind me again, how many straight men are there in south Africa?

You know it's disgusting when a gay talks about getting laid.

XhosaNostra:



To clear this, I grew up in the 90s, so I saw a lot of horrifying things in my childhood, like the SADF kicking down doors in the wee hours of the morning, while searching for people nobody knew about. I think a lot of it (the raids) was just power-tripping on their part, TBH.

I've also experienced racism as a child, where a white lady pushed me off the chair. Apparently, I wasn't allowed on the chair. Never been a "victim" of racism as an adult because I have a mouth to speak up for myself! Now should I let those experiences define or alter my view of the world & people when I've also experienced the good-natured side of people? I remember as a little girl I used to suffer from ear aches & tonsils, so we frequented all the hospitals around East London. At Day Hospital, there was a white female paediatrician that worked there. This was a Blacks & Coloureds only hospital at the time. This one time I went there with my mother because I had a terrible ear ache & I was crying because I was in pain. The paediatrician actually held me & tried to soothe me. For me that was a changing moment because I realized that there're good & bad people in the world, so I shouldn't judge anyone by the colour of their skin. Basically, I've had both positive & negative experiences with white people, so I can't paint them all with one brush. That is my experience, not something I was told to do. Even as young as I was, I learned to differentiate between the system & the individuals. I remember one time I spent the holidays in a white suburb in Gonubie. My friend's mother was working as a domestic worker for one family there & since my friend was going to be by herself when her mother would be working, the employer suggested that she brings a playmate along. The family had older kids & I would be lying if I said those people treated us like we were different from them. We ate at their table & even swam in their swimming pool. All these experiences put together are the reason why I'm not a bitter racist today. Some people were nice & some weren't. I have a life to live than dwell on every negative shìt that has ever happened to me & that is my choice. I also know that there're people with a completely different POV than I have & I respect that. However, I've also lived & I'm entitled to my own opinions even if they differ from other people's perspectives etc. Nothing can ever make me think otherwise because MY opinions are a result of MY experiences as an individual. It ends there, really.

100% thanks for sharing your experiences............I think its important that we don't let the past define but rather take the lessons of the past while we build a better future!

Personally I feel 90% of SAns are like me and you, Patriots that only want a better future of all South Africans, but their will always be that 10%(White and Black) that let the past define them, they will always try to be divisive!!

Now although I don't ow anybody an explanation I thought I'll share it with you anyway.........This whole thing started when I claimed Boer people are African, Yes I was labeled a racist because i claimed Boer people were African! I stated that apartheid was comparable to other African tyranny and oppression as It was one South African group oppressing another and it wasn't a foreign country or people doing the oppressing!!

After that I was labeled as an apartheid apologist(like you were) and racist.......Even though I didn't once say anything that down played the effect of apartheid, made an excuse for it , hell I even said it was a crime against humanity and I support reform policies that uplift those that were previously disadvantaged!! But yeah can't be South African if you are white! its hence because of this logic why I said the conquest of SA by White(specifically Boer) wasn't that much different to that of the Zulus for example, both groups of people are technically not indigenous to SA(by their logic) that conquered vast amounts of land and were responsible for the death of a lot of people.........Its after this statement that certain people claimed that genocide is only a white thing and that Africa was some peaceful wonder land before colonialism.

Shma:
yeah sure.

the import of the message was

countries with the highest number of tests carried out

Just30:
the import of the message was

countries with the highest number of tests carried out

how many samples do Ghana tests in a day?

BadBradley:


Your retorts are as boring as your life and as weak as your national economy. Remind me again, how many straight men are there in south Africa?

You know it's disgusting when a gay talks about getting laid.

Try another jibe, they gay one doesn't work on a South African. As for the economy don't make me laugh

Lionessza6:

LMFAO, so too experienced apartheid?. If not then who the fck are you to tell Kenyans anything about it ? .

Well I'm sure my feelings and views about the system are unique and aren't echoed by most . Everything in SA politics points to me being the minority .

No I've not experienced apartheid hence I've not commented on how people must feel about it.....same reason I've respected your feelings with regards to it!

TayserMahri:


if I may sum up the article for you,

1. Africa was not democratic
2. Africa was not all peaceful wonderland

NOT

1. Africa was a scene of genocide
2. Africa was a scene of slavery

except Africa was a scene of genocide and slavery...........even before colonialism!!

Shma:
I even doubt If Abuja can stand mombasa.

Dont doubt it, it is true...
Abuja has better road network and more road network than nairobi and mombassa combined.fact
Abuja has better transport system, housing,lesser slum as well..

TayserMahri:


Everything you said came to pass..

He's working on point no. 2. Lets see what he comes up with. It'll be Mfecane. Holly Molly, always m-fey-caneeeeeee

Regarding 3, im also told those who live in glass houses must not throw stones

Tayser, so far we have established that ; when Africans are left alone without any pink savages around ,they mostly live peacefully together . You heard that when blacks were empowered they didn't rob each other nor were there any major problems in their communities. This goes back to our claim that there was no genocide of Africans by Africans without the hand of the barbaric criminals from the caves.

I told you also that some people get butthurt when you talk about racism in SA,but get excited when you bring out tribalism,skintones and facial features of different tribes. leave apartheid and bhuraz alone,and bring up the topic of township criminals for instance ,then you will get some love and warmth . Or talk about Malema's idiocy,but dont ever mention afrifrorim running around the world claiming there is white genocide in SA ,those are just hurt boeres taking out their hurt on us for ending political apartheid .

Also know that there are sentiments that are popular among white people and sentiments popular among black peopl. So someone reciting garbage of white communities( mostly unfounded & half truths) ,doesn't make them neutral , it makes them exactly who they are . Notice the passion when talking about black peoples weaknesses and then compare that to the way white savagery is talked about .

TayserMahri:


Your sources are always wikipedia. I dont remember you coming up with anything better than a propaganda/racialist source. My source is beyond reproach. Until you provide evidence for all your wild claims im not providing you mine. The ONUS is on you!

Who said Africa was some peaceful wonderland? You're attacking that strawman too much

When have i ever quoted wikipedia? name just one time!!

Also as you've stated I've already provided my sources(they weren't wikipedia btw)............so the onus is one you to prove otherwise!

Lionessza6:


Tayser, so far we have established that ; when Africans are left alone without any pink savages around ,they mostly live peacefully together . You heard that when blacks were empowered they didn't rob each other nor were there any major problems in their communities. This goes back to our claim that there was no genocide of Africans by Africans without the hand of the barbaric criminals from the caves.

I told you also that some people get butthurt when you talk about racism in SA,but get excited when you bring out tribalism,skintones and facial features of different tribes. leave apartheid and bhuraz alone,and bring up the topic of township criminals for instance ,then you will get some love and warmth . Or talk about Malema's idiocy,but dont ever mention afrifrorim running around the world claiming there is white genocide in SA ,those are just hurt boeres taking out their hurt on us for ending political apartheid .

Also know that there are sentiments that are popular among white people and sentiments popular among black peopl. So someone reciting garbage of white communities( mostly unfounded & half truths) ,doesn't make them neutral , it makes them exactly who they are . Notice the passion when talking about black peoples weaknesses and then compare that to the way white savagery is talked about .

Look sweetheart , you obviously haven't followed the conversation from the beginning.........I never said white colonists didn't commit unspeakable atrocities , nor did i make any excuse for it, or tried to downplay it.........

What i had a problem with was when someone said White people have genocidal DNA, that's when I simply stated Black people were also responsible for Genocide and slavery, and it wasn't only a white thing.............whether you believe that historical fact or not makes no difference to me

Shma:
how many samples do Ghana tests in a day?

between 3000 to 8,000 in a day

It aLL has to do with the pressure


Since our cases have increased, it means that Testing has gotten to 40,000

samorobo:


Dont doubt it, it is true...
Abuja has better road network and more road network than nairobi and mombassa combined.fact
Abuja has better transport system, housing,lesser slum as well..

Mombasa has high quality roads than Abuja, many doesn't equate to development, you can be having more road network but the quality is wanting.
Mombasa will beat Abuja in transport system, Mombasa is the home of second largest international airport after jomo kenyatta. Water services Abuja had none., I know you will cling on Abuja meter rail e.t.c to scope cheap points, but Mombasa will beat you ten nil in rail station.,
House system,??... what do you mean, mombasa has more posh houses compared to Abuja. .

Shma:
Mombasa has high quality roads than Abuja, many doesn't equate to development, you can be having more road network but the quality is wanting.
Mombasa will beat Abuja in transport system, Mombasa is the home of second largest international airport after jomo kenyatta. Water services Abuja had none., I know you will cling on Abuja meter rail e.t.c to scope cheap points, but Mombasa will beat you ten nil in rail station.,
House system,??... what do you mean, mombasa has more posh houses compared to Abuja. .

Even Nairobi does not have quality roads than Abuja

How much more Mombasa ?

Just30:
between 3000 to 8,000 in a day

It aLL has to do with the pressure


Since our cases have increased, it means that Testing has gotten to 40,000

that's great, what is the capability of that testing machine in a day.
The maximum samples it can hold.

Just30:
Even Nairobi does not have quality roads than Abuja

How much more Mombasa ?

are you samorobo?
I will call you when we're talking about kisumu vs Accra,.

Lionessza6:



I'm late to the party

Tayser,people will act like askaris of the anc,came in caused massive unemployment of black people lol. Even though I know the ANC to be a depraved party,let's not lie about them any further lol.

There were two SA's,the Bantustan SA with black " presidents" and the apartheid SA that was directly ruled by white savages. In apartheid SA most people were unemployed as they are today,if you count " jobs " like kitchen girl and garden boy as employement ,please leave me out of it lol. Ofcourse I'm not taking anything away from the mothers and fathers who raised their kids with those jobs, going to work everyday knowing that if they dropped the madam's blouse by mistake and tried to explain it if busted ,then they would be accused of being " cheeky" and might get beat up ,fired or both. In the SA directly lead by white men the most "fancy " jobs were mining and factory working for the darkies lol. Ofcourse there were teachers,nurses and to some extent lawyers and too,but these were rare.

Then you had the "independent nations ",the bantustans created to stall the inevitable lol. Anyways,things were ran by blacks in these places so don't be fooled into thinking that things were the same in these two separate SAs. The factories were never ran by boeres but the bantusatan leaders had asked East asians like koreans and Chinese to come and invest in these places. In the universities ,;before people come here and glorify bhorez for the older generation's education ; lectures and trainers were brought in from Cuba, Ghana, India and others by the Bantustan leaders. Most people from mostly the coastal provinces had never had much contact with bhuraz,( I'm talking about Kwazulu natal and Eastern Cape specifically, hence you will hardly see find the two groups using afrikaans almost fluently ). There were garden boys and kitchen girls in the Bantustans two,but most people worked for themselves; shop keeping ,bottle store running ,farming etc. And then you had the civil servants who were black as well. And you those with their own firms; accounting ,law & them ( although not as many as today, but they were pretty significant compared to the white man's SA).

Now to personal stories lol; I didn't grow up under apartheid but that doesn't mean I dont know nor see or feel it today. Anyways,my mother's side of the family were considered well educated blacks ;Dbecause most of the women there were teachers including my mother ( the greatest jobs of the time for the blackies lol). My oldest aunt who paved the way for all others used to help out my grandmother during holiday time ( my grandmother was cleaner and waitress in hotel in one of the coastal villages in transkei). Most white people found then and even in now in these places are the English. They were and still are generally not threatened by black educated people, as long as it's not too many in their circles lol,the complete opposite of bhorez. Back to the story,my aunt was then noticed by one of the regulars there,and she took her with her to be her children's nanny( as she clearly demonstrated great signs of being the perfect child slave lol). Anyways,when she was of age,they asked her If she wanted to " further" her education because she was quiet a smart slave, they didn't see the need to hold her back lol. They sent her to the university of trankei ( known today as Walter Sisulu university),in the main campus of mthatha, the rest was history for that family of slaves lol. Towards the end of apartheid the family left for home ( england ) .my aunt tells me she cried her self to sleep that day lol,because that family had treated her so well they even gave her a little backroom in their house ,right next to the dog house LMFAO. On the other side of my family; they were mostly farm workers in Grahamstown/Makhanda/ Rhini, their "good" boss used to drop them off in their village home in Pedi/ Ngqushwa on weekends ( free of charge lol) after paying them with box wine the whole week lol. This is when my grandfather was spotted by one of the farm visitors as the best cow dung sweeper of the pack,and he was taken to mdantsane township in East London/Emonti where he was to live with his family and work as a factory worker. Long story short,its no wonder that my ungrateful ass ended up being born in a factory town LMFAO. I blame the white people who introduced my bloodline to the factory line of work,now my father never wants to leave that slave town called butterworth,where every township has about a 100 factories lol. Unfortunately after the fall of apartheid ( in this case the Bantustan leadership),most of the factories and township businesses were deliberately killed to make way for monopolies owned by the establishment with our "freedom fighters" as their proxies. All in all,there were white people with their " nice " gestures back then, as there are now ,but that doesn't in anyway change the fact that the system was kept in place by them ( majority).

Crime: whenever there is systematic injustices and inequality;poverty ,crime and violence will soon follow. Look at America and Brazil. It doesn't matter how hard individuals work,or how far one goes as an individual,the reality is that the shythole problems will follow or catch up with you. Two days before the lockdown, I was coming out of Cedar square in fourways in jozi,and two black guys tried to Jack me and it was two white women in a car near me that gave me the heads up. And here I am still calling them children of barbaric criminals from Europe lol. I need help,my levels of ungreatfulness are up there lol. Crime in places like soweto was out of control back then; systematic murders ,government sponsored terrorism of township businesses ,kidnappings,robberies etc. Let me take a little break, this forced rehab is not good for me lol

Aids in SA townships was introduced by smiling white doctors

Thanks for sharing your experience as I've said i've not walked in your shoes Im not going to comment much on what you said............however what i will say is your family did what they could under the circumstances , imo(maybe you don't mean it that way) its sounds degrading calling them good slaves for wanting to stay at a certain job..........you sound well educated, don't forget the sacrifices made to get you where you are today

Shma:
are you samorobo?
I will call you when we're talking about kisumu vs Accra,.

under deprived areas do not deserve comparison with Ghana

Shma:
+ mombasa and eldoret.

None in Mombasa. The one in Eldoret is registered not certified.

tylann:

Nigerian soldiers went to war carrying catapults

Still better than Kenya soldiers that can't even defeat 4 Al alshabab. Nigeria armies still ranked ahead of your dead weak armies. You're not even ranked in top 10

tylann:

Liberate Nigeria from poverty first boy before worrying about other countries which are significantly better than Nigeria in everything

First liberate the starvation and hunger in Turkana and the poverty in your zoo before worrying about other countries that's far better than your ugly poverty infested shitthol. Tanzania are the ones feeding your ugly asses. Bunch of lazy skinny creatures

BadBradley:
I am your liberator, sir. My fathers asked the Boers , albeit with authority to allow your daddy and his daddy and their daddies down the line to come down from the highest trees in mpumalanga where they shared common habitat with wild baboons.

Don't bother yourself bro. That idiot is starving kenyan. From the worst country in the world.

jln115:

Thanks for sharing your experience as I've said i've not walked in your shoes Im not going to comment much on what you said............however what i will say is your family did what they could under the circumstances , imo(maybe you don't mean it that way) its sounds degrading calling them good slaves for wanting to stay at a certain job..........you sound well educated, don't forget the sacrifices made to get you where you are today

LMFAO, thank you very much for your kind words. I'm really touched that you felt my story that deep . All is well now ,wow . I'm amazed,I really didn't know that white people could be this warm . This encounter has really changed my view of SA;its economic structure and all things else that make it SUid Africa

tylann:

It is simple fact that is why Nigerian men run across the continent looking for ass

And you called these ones women. These ones are beautiful Angeles in your eyes see your women, even our men looks more cuter than your ugly women nowonder you were voted the ugliest creatures on Earth when they're talking of beautiful women, kenyans should be the last people on Earth to talk about beauty. Bunch of ugly baboons

jln115:
100% thanks for sharing your experiences............I think its important that we don't let the past define but rather take the lessons of the past while we build a better future!

Personally I feel 90% of SAns are like me and you, Patriots that only want a better future of all South Africans, but their will always be that 10%(White and Black) that let the past define them, they will always try to be divisive!!

Now although I don't ow anybody an explanation I thought I'll share it with you anyway.........This whole thing started when I claimed Boer people are African, Yes I was labeled a racist because i claimed Boer people were African! I stated that apartheid was comparable to other African tyranny and oppression as It was one South African group oppressing another and it wasn't a foreign country or people doing the oppressing!!

After that I was labeled as an apartheid apologist(like you were) and racist.......Even though I didn't once say anything that down played the effect of apartheid, made an excuse for it , hell I even said it was a crime against humanity and I support reform policies that uplift those that were previously disadvantaged!! But yeah can't be South African if you are white! its hence because of this logic why I said the conquest of SA by White(specifically Boer) wasn't that much different to that of the Zulus for example, both groups of people are technically not indigenous to SA(by their logic) that conquered vast amounts of land and were responsible for the death of a lot of people.........Its after this statement that certain people claimed that genocide is only a white thing and that Africa was some peaceful wonder land before colonialism.

Yeah, I don't agree with the bolded. I think you're seeing it from your perspective because you weren't directly affected by it. I'm not going to get emotional about it though because that's not my style. But let me take this opportunity to explain it to you from the black perspective. Apartheid was a horrifying time for many black people. It didn't only affect them psychologically, but forever altered the course of their lives because they were hindered by the many unfair laws from progressing academically & of course, career-wise. As a result, many people were left with very little options, but to work low-wage jobs that often took them away from their families for long periods of time.
I was having a conversation with my 18-year-old niece the other day, because I was shocked by the fact that she couldn't prepared certain meals by herself at that age. At 10 years old, I could cook all the things she doesn't know how to cook now because I had no other choice. I often came home from school to an empty house & wouldn't see my father until around midnight. He worked as a truck driver for one distillery. As for my mother, I only saw her on weekends because she lived where she worked. On those short visits home, she'd teach me how to prepare quick meals. I only had one try to learn since she only spent one full day with the family. So yeah, that's the view from the other side. It wasn't fulfilling since many families were broken up, but like you said, we should take things for what they're worth because at the end of the day, adversities are character building & forces one's nature to be resilient, resourceful etc. I'm the person I am today due to those experiences & in a way, they did me more good than harm because I can take care of myself.

The rest of your post is so-so, but I do agree that the focus should be on creating a better tomorrow. That's why I don't like to get too involved in these type of discussions because everyone has a way they feel about certain things & since I can't be bothered about how people choose to think or feel, I focus on my own personal journey. People are entitled to their feelings & whatnot, it's up to you if you wanna try to convince them otherwise or simply let them be. I choose the later. I completely disengage. It's less stressful & allows me to be at peace with my own thoughts.

forgiveness:


None in Mombasa. The one in Eldoret is registered not certified.

but bro, this is a hectic Convo.

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jln115:

Look sweetheart , you obviously haven't followed the conversation from the beginning.........I never said white colonists didn't commit unspeakable atrocities , nor did i make any excuse for it, or tried to downplay it.........

What i had a problem with was when someone said White people have genocidal DNA, that's when I simply stated Black people were also responsible for Genocide and slavery, and it wasn't only a white thing.............whether you believe that historical fact or not makes no difference to me

Yawn!!.

tylann:

Do you know Nigeria is the poverty capital
It is also the open defecation capital
All what you are saying is nonsense
Worry about Nigeria first

Did you know Kenya is the starvation capital of the world When they're talking about poverty. Kenya it selfs is a poverty stop comparing you poverty hungry zoo with Nigeria that's far far far far far far better than you. As in, the gab is too much. Even South Africa can't match, not to talk of you hungry skeletons

Problemkid1:
Don't bother yourself bro. That idiot is starving kenyan. From the worst country in the world.

a country with an economy of 70 billion is pretending to be relevant.

jln115:

Look sweetheart , you obviously haven't followed the conversation from the beginning.........I never said white colonists didn't commit unspeakable atrocities , nor did i make any excuse for it, or tried to downplay it.........

What i had a problem with was when someone said White people have genocidal DNA, that's when I simply stated Black people were also responsible for Genocide and slavery, and it wasn't only a white thing.............whether you believe that historical fact or not makes no difference to me

What a wet dripping cunt you are!!! I enjoy you bending over, defying gravity to please her.

What a Zulu wuzzbag