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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Tobrasky: 3:46pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
LegendHero: so you checked all those schools and all the Nigerian students in the space of how long? superman! Why not post the websites for those schools 4 schools and let EVERYONE present here do justice to it? And why are you streamlining your research for just 2018-19? other academic years nko? "Moreso it is stupidity to start compiling name for 5300 universities before reaching a conclusion" well in your own words smart ass, that's exactly the fucking point! that's too broad/many a number to just rely on "sample sizes" dude that's a VERY limited metric of data to draw any cognitively plausible conclusions that Yorubas trash Igbos hands down, I thought you are good with facts and figures? Why not give me some source, study, graph, chart... Anything showing Yorubas are ahead of Igbos, much less other Nigerians in the academic indices of the top schools in the USA (now that's a more credible data researched by actual statisticians and experts)... and NOT some "sample size" hogwash theory LegendHero pulled out of his ass. |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by forgiveness: 3:49pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
LegendHero: Hahahaha! Odikwa serious! Please, have mercy on em for dey no not what dey do. Ebi bi like say Nowenuse don flee already. I mean e don japa. 2 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Tobrasky: 3:50pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Please if you live or school in the US, and you dey Nairaland, abeg enter this thread, abeg!!!!!!! |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by forgiveness: 3:51pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Tobrasky: What is the scores so far? 1 Like |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by LegendHero(m): 3:52pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Tobrasky: Be patient, don’t be in a haste. I will post it, just trying to find a way to rewrite them to evade anti-spam ban. It remove the post automatically and ban me until I message the mod to unban me and the issue keep recurring anytime I try uploading those things. I tried again without adding their names, the same thing happened again, the anti-spam banned me again. Now I am devising a strategy of upload them. Just give me little time and I will copy you when I do. The last thing I will do is to lie. Be patient. 3 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Tobrasky: 3:53pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
forgiveness:Oponu you stay in Nigeria, let those stay in Yankee come in here and do justice to the debate, go and scramble for your garri and agege bread and let people who are not hungry talk |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by forgiveness: 3:59pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Tobrasky: Bros, I agree the SE go to school more than other groups in Nigeria but not more than the SW. From UK to US, SW plenty pass any region in Nigeria because na de priority here. Dem fit drink garri make pikin go school. But that should be the goal of both groups. They should come together and use what dey have learnt to develop themselves in technology and engineering. Kpom! 1 Like |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Tobrasky: 3:59pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
LegendHero:You have to post it, also start getting all your facts in cue based on a complete study conducted (with a accessible infometric) to convince your gullible audience here beyond every reasonable doubt that Yorubas are way ahead of Igbos in the US colleges. And please post all the websites for the 4 schools you claimed to have checked for I'll have more people help in confirming it, then we can go from there. Dude if you are going to be half-assed about stats, you should remember we don't live in Nigeria where fake stats and oluwole data takes a center stage, you of all people inspite of yourself, should know the USA has a huge database of researchers that always do feasibility studies on these conversations, right? |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by forgiveness: 4:02pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Tobrasky: Hehehe! How you take no say I like garri? I dey chew am raw now. I hope say you no dey yakee on asylum sha. Make I send you garri make you chew? Bhuhahahaha! My guy, what is the scores? 1 Like |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by NigerianSage: 4:08pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Yorubas Are The Most Industrious,Richest & Educated Tribe in Nigeria & Africa Remember this thread and how they created their own thread to compete with our thread. After posting and recycling innoson so my times. they finally gave up.. 2 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Tobrasky: 4:12pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
If we decide to do little sample sizes of research of Nigerians who gain admission to or graduate from top ivy league schools by going a Google search, you will see Igbos always somehow top the list in numbers on average of academic records been broken in the USA. http://dawntodusknews.com/6-young-nigerians-enrolled-at-harvard-law-school-as-phdjd-students/ https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.pulse.ng/communities/student/academic-champions-3-nigerian-students-who-got-admission-offer-from-8-top/2kx5jcx.amp&ved=2ahUKEwi7v_zgnvLoAhWRrZ4KHcdHCsEQFjARegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw0JbaEPMs9Prv1PErXnIkX0&cf=1&cshid=1587222072368 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.informationng.com/2018/05/nigerian-first-class-student-who-became-a-lecturer-at-24-graduates-from-harvard-in-flying-colours-photos.html/amp&ved=2ahUKEwinvLSyn_LoAhUFsp4KHauEDpw4ChAWMAN6BAgJEAE&usg=AOvVaw38bbK0NY70THWfMpJLFKnU https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://thisisafrica.me/africans-rising/dehlia-umunna-first-nigerian-professor-at-harvard-law-school/&ved=2ahUKEwi_99TBn_LoAhVSrJ4KHdeIB1s4FBAWMAl6BAgEEAE&usg=AOvVaw2PMPu9ccRJNscXsWwif3Kb https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2016/05/nigerian-ikenna-uzoije-graduates-with.html.html&ved=2ahUKEwj7tYuXoPLoAhXPup4KHfYiBXY4ChAWMAB6BAgEEAE&usg=AOvVaw2ezJeHOygPPWxVSOe81YK9 https://www.aigmediapro.tv › nigeri... Nigerian-Born Student Breaks Record In Texas, US - - AIG Media Pro https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://scannewsnigeria.com/education/a-nigerian-lady-of-igbo-extraction-breaks-100-years-record-in-indian-university/&ved=2ahUKEwjZktPFoPLoAhWQpZ4KHfOmC5wQFjAJegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw2Zr-1mN6u4ErMfrmTxjvpe&cshid=1587222524228 The list plenty die, until someone serious enough to spend the hours and days doing the extensive cumulative research (that's why we need more US based Nigerians to join so we can open a separate thread on this topic), we will never get the true analysis of facts, besides what anyone can pull out of his behind on some speculative nonsense. |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 4:13pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Tobrasky: You are begging? The Igbo cavalry ain't coming this time. I think LegendHero has done some major flattening of already Pelebe heads so your brothers, in fear for damage to their image, decide to Leave you Oyo. On your own lol. 2 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Eastlink(m): 4:15pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Tobrasky:You need to understand the arguments. Both you and LegendHero agreed to post list of undergraduate or graduate admissions of Nigerians in the US university. Legend hero as smart as he is knows that the Yoruba’s constitute a high population in Georgia. Now if you study in California you would understand that the Igbos are much in California and Texas. As a matter of fact., I expected you to post the admission list for San Diego or UCLA which you failed to do. Start from your university and list Nigerians by their ethnic groups. It isn’t really a difficult thing to do. You can pick 5 major Universities in the USA from different key regions. Example UCLA for the west Seattle for the north west Ohio for the Midwest Florida for the far south Georgia for the south Harvard for the north New York for the north east etc 9 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Tobrasky: 4:17pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
candidtalk:Guy abeg no dey mention me again, if are not based anywhere in the US or abroad for that matter (even if it's Cotonou sef ) abeg stop wasting my time |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by LegendHero(m): 4:20pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Tobrasky: Yes, I don’t have much time but I will also trust your findings. Just make sure you are uploading the Page number to the names (You can use only first name) and the link to the List. Then we can all verify it together. I used 2018 and 2019 coz that’s the recent one. Who have the time to be checking graduating year since 2005? I don’t have that much time but if you want to check them just tag me and give the link to your sources. 2 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by LegendHero(m): 4:24pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Eastlink: Now it’s now a statement of Georgia? C’mon I’ve done three states already. Georgia, North Carolina, and Maryland. (Yoruba tops everything here. I used 7 different convocation lists for different years in all these university) I will check the list of schools you named up here and try to compile all the list by tonight to end the argument once and for all. Question to you: If we can check all these schools (Those with grad list record online) and the Yorubas dominate them, will you accept the argument that Yorubas top the number of Nigeria ethnicities in USA universities? Yes or No? @your bolded, do you have any source to that statement? That statement is totally false. Update: You recommended Kansas. You guys should know that Kansas has a very low population of blacks and you won't have much Nigerians studying in those universities. But I still went on Kansas State University web to check and the Yorubas still dominate. I will be canceling out each one of the listed states here that I have touched. At least one school in each. For Kansas State University: (I will be using the section for out of country (Nigerians) student for simplicity) Link: https://www.k-state.edu/media/newsreleases/lists/ Fall 2019: Yoruba: 0 , Igbo- 1 Spring 2019: Yoruba -1 , Igbo - 0 Fall 2018: Yoruba- 2 , Igbo-1 Spring 2018: Yoruba-2 , Igbo-1 , Others- 1 Fall-2017: Yoruba- 1 , Others- 2 (one could be Yoruba) , Igbos:0 Spring 2017: Yoruba-4 , Igbo-0 , Could be Igbo- 1 (Amakoh) Fall 2016: Yoruba-2 , Others: 1 Summer 2016: Hausa-1 , Yoruba -0 , Igbo - 0 Spring 2016: Yoruba - 2 , Igbos- 1 Fall 2015: Yorubas-1 , Igbo - 0 Spring 2015: Hausa-1 , Igbo-1 , Yoruba-0 Total: Yoruba -15 Igbo: 5 Others: 6 4 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Tobrasky: 4:26pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Eastlink:I agree with you, but I opened the post with the hopes that we will have a broad range of research for various colleges resident within Georgia (trust me there a quite a ton of them), we barely even scratched the surface of data collection through the frustrating process of finding Nigerian names among a list of hundreds for various degree programs and academic years/semesters. LegendHero then rushed to post that Yorubas "thoroughly" to paraphrase his assertion trashed Igbos in all the states of the USA or something to that effect... Based on a very small data he culled from just two or three schools spanning from just 2018-19...is that how extensive research is conducted? and you're right, I'll get to work soon on the school websites he posted after my chores, and end his noise with California, Texas, Michigan, Arizona and other state colleges where I thankfully have my records handy (thanks to my friends who gave me access to the school records of their alumni's). |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Anambralstson: 4:28pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
LegendHero:I don't understand what most of you smoke and will come online and wrong comparison, In the United States, there are approximately 5,300 colleges and universities. These colleges and universities range from beauty schools to private Ivy League research universities like Harvard University, show me how you get your figures that Yorubas are more than Igbos in all the higher learnings, I can be wasting my energy if I can see comprehensive report or database where it's more detailed from all the institutions 2 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Eastlink(m): 4:28pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
LegendHero:Three states are okay. Can you focus on just one admission year. Maybe you should spread the sample size to three faculties. Engineering Medicine Arts. For example 2018/2019 Undergraduate list/Post graduate Georgia - Engineering North Carolina - Arts Maryland - Medicine 2 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by LegendHero(m): 4:32pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Tobrasky: Can you please post the link to those universities records here to make my work easy. So by tonight I can compile the list that cut across Georgia, Maryland, North Carolina, California, Texas, Michigan, Arizona, and etc. Question to you: If after we uploaded the record of the mentioned universities and the Yorubas win, will you humble yourself? 5 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Moneywomen17(m): 4:36pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
gwafaeziokwu:actually more than 80% of the professor in university of Ibadan are Yorubas followed by other tribes then igbo. This are facts. The Yoruba professor in uni Ibadan alone are just a little short less than the professor of university of nsukka and not all nsukka professors are ibo. Challenge me. 4 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by LegendHero(m): 4:38pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Eastlink: God bless you. I’ve told Tobrasky that it’s too stressful to start compiling the list of 5000 universities in USA before reaching a logical conclusion. It will take almost 1 year to complete it coz some universities don’t even have those records online. That’s why statisticians use sample size. Try to limit it to a certain data and infer the true figures from those samples. There is a problem with using the bolded in your statement: 1. Nigerians are so small in USA universities and you will be lost in those lost by trying to streamline it to one department. Infact it will consume lot of time. So it’s better to look them as a whole (all department) to get the required numbers. 2. Nigerians(especially those that identify as int’l students) most often depends on tuition funding/ Graduate assistantship to fund their education and this is a issue as it will affect the number of students you can find in those school. So it’s better to look at them as a whole. That’s why I’m doing Fall and spring grad of all department. You get my argument right? 3 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Tobrasky: 4:39pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
[quote author=LegendHero post=88586796] Can you please post the link to those universities records here to make my work easy. So by tonight I can compile the list that cut across Georgia, Maryland, North Carolina, California, Texas, Michigan, Arizona, and etc. Question to you: If after we uploaded the record of the mentioned universities and the Yorubas win, will you humble yourself?[/quote Deal! 1 Like |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Moneywomen17(m): 4:41pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Cosbyrich:of course and it’s more than 70% more like 80% or more. I have stats for University of Ibadan and no surprise Yoruba dominates the professor list at over 80% 3 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Tobrasky: 4:47pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
LegendHero:Sample sizes can NEVER be comprehensive enough, other major/minor details (like for instance a major college or program where Igbos could dominate in numbers will be overlooked) because we are focusing on just a select few of schools, that can make significantly be a deal breaker in the sense that it minimizes the credibility of the whole basis for the conversation or debate in the first place. That's why I want us to open a separate thread for this debate, take our time to get other US based Nigerians/Africans from all ethnic backgrounds to come in and also give their inputs through opinions... like say a Ghanaian, Edo, Efik, American or anyone for that matter based in the USA and had schooled here, can give an unbiased appraisal of the conversation...while we do our parts by compiling our stats on the metric Eastlink suggested. |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Goke7: 4:52pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
forgiveness: Omo, if we enter UK universities, e go bloody gan! Tobrasky is just wasting his time, he initially conceded but just can't let go. 6 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Cosbyrich: 4:53pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Moneywomen17: Don't mind him.He knows the truth just like everybody in Nigeria knows. 2 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by LegendHero(m): 4:58pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Tobrasky: Okay if I get you right, this is what you want: 1. Use the list that Eastlink suggested with the other list we already have to complete the argument on this thread. 2. After completing the micro argument on this thread, you want us to open a separate thread to widen the scope of the research by engaging the public and allowing people to upload the stat of Nigerian students in their universities for the graduating years they can lay their hands on. 3. I think we should give a constraint or less than 3 years. Let’s say just 2017 - 2019 for each school they can see. Provided the info is available online with sources. However there is an observation: This is how it started in the first place. I don’t know why you deviated this all of a sudden. - we both agreed to use universities in California and Georgia to back our statements. I provided those of Georgia for 4 different graduation semester and you are yet to provide any of California. After presenting this and you saw the Yoruba dominate all the schools you said we should widen the scope. I agree to widen it tho but just trying to let you know what we initially planned. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Goke7: 4:59pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
LegendHero: No matter the stats you bring, they will never accept. If not that these universities have sites and links that can be verified, they would have manufactured a lot of nominal stats for us by now but alas, they can easily be busted. It's a know fact that the Yorubas still drive education for Nigeria both home and abroad. The igbos were just being deceived few years back that they were catching up and had overtaken us but they continued to be dazed and amazed that the yorubas still leads in education and will remain so for a longer time 5 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Moneywomen17(m): 5:01pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Tobrasky:while I agree with u to an extent regarding sample sizes. Unless u are willing to go through all the 5000 plus schools which will require a lot of work and time. The argument might as well end right now. Lot of things must be taken into account not only school but population samples and all other stuff. What’s the population of igbo and Yoruba in America cuz according to ur own made up statistics u said ibo are more than yoruba. I have travelled all over the states to Georgia, Indiana, Alabama, Maryland, Texas and so much more and if u ask me I will say yoruba are much more in the states but is there anyway to really prove it. No. Meanwhile when u started this argument with legendhero. The argument was that he will bring out stats for Georgia while u do the same for California. At one point u even claimed there is more ibo graduating student in the summer semester for Georgia so far on ur list. 5 Likes |
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