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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 10:24pm On May 15, 2020
donjazet:
The reason I usually don't engage in the who is the better player comparisons/arguments is because both players being compared are usually very good players and the people arguing present personal opinions to undermine the opponents good player of which there isn't a mutually accepted judge so after the numerous back and forth, nobody accepts the others opinions and it just abruptly ends only for it to resume much later. cheesy cheesy so tiring.
Rightly said. But such banters and comparisons are what make this thread, and the Sports section generally, fascinating so long there are no much amala turning and personal attacks.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Herbiedeen(m): 10:28pm On May 15, 2020
Ronaldo is a complete Naturally Talented Player over Messi. Messi might have more individual and team success over him, but R9 will alway7 topple him.
To me, he's the only complete player with the whatever attributes you might wanna name and they are Raw.
To win World Best @20 no be beans oh
FIFA even rates Ronaldo over Messi

Even FIFA rates Okocha over Kanu with all his Individual and Team success.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 10:29pm On May 15, 2020
TiAd:

Rightly said. But such banters and comparisons are what make this thread, and the Sports section, fascinating so long there are no much amala turning and personal attacks.

True sha. But when the repetitive arguments just drag on and on and you know that it would only end in deadlock and resurface again later. The thing dey quite tiring.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Herbiedeen(m): 10:33pm On May 15, 2020
diggz:


But e go sweet to see Messi collect those kicks from Serie A players without the protection he and others have been enjoying sha...
Datwan wey ref go don blow before Ramos kick am...Even ordinary Pepe kick am sef, e go dey roll like fish roll talkless of those italian mafias.....one way ticket to heaven
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by homesteady(m): 11:36pm On May 15, 2020
Who started peddling this rumour that Messi didn't score a goal in 2 straight National team competitions? Were the competitions played in your dream?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by biomustry: 11:39pm On May 15, 2020
airmark:


That was the best Ronaldo i saw.

Messi's natural talent was medically boosted, to top all other greats. grin
No wonder grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by biomustry: 11:43pm On May 15, 2020
nihilistjnr:



Nahhh.

Ronaldo had first mover advantage, in that nobody was doing it like him.back then. He was the only striker that was roaming the field and drimbling people left and right.

By the time Messi came along, we had seen R9, Henry, Kaka, Dinho perform such actions on a regular basis.

It was still spectacular but it wasn't new anymore.

Messi has been a top 2 player for 11 years. Top 3 for 12.

I know there's an argument that Ronaldo suffered game changing injuries, which I can accept.

But when you look at the sheer number of goals Messi has scored, even injury can't account for it.

Ronaldo's peak was at Barcelona where he scored 47 goals in all competitions. Messi has matched that once, and beaten it six times.

No amount of training can help you score 73 goals in a single season.
I believe dem hack your account grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:08am On May 16, 2020
Kimbeast:


Let's put it this way... He had Cristiano's pace, power and speed. Coupled with Messi's dribbling, finishing and technique. If only he had Cristiano fitness record.

He did not have Messis dribbling. Messi needs much less space to dribble. Ronaldo cannot dribble through 8 parked men. Messi is unique in that aspect.

Not all dribbling are mate. Henry or Mbappe style of dribbling requires much space. Ronaldo De Lima less so, Ronaldinho or Maradona even less. . . .and Messi needs the least amount of space to dribble from all footballers I've witnessed.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:24am On May 16, 2020
diggz:


But e go sweet to see Messi collect those kicks from Serie A players without the protection he and others have been enjoying sha...

Kicking no be problem oga. All that is overplayed anyway.

Na the amount of space available to play be the koko.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 12:30am On May 16, 2020
spillo1:


This is Mourinho speaking about a 19yr old Ronaldo. At 19 he was already the best player in the world.

"Ronaldo, El Fenomeno. Cristiano Ronaldo and Leo Messi have had longer careers, they have remained at the top every day for 15 years.
"However, if we are talking strictly about talent and skill, nobody surpasses Ronaldo [Nazario]. When he was at Barcelona with Bobby Robson, I realised that he was the best player I'd ever seen take to the field.
"Injuries killed a career that could have been even more incredible, but the talent that that 19-year-old boy had was something incredible."

Thunder fire injuries.


It's the Nesta quote about him that i always laugh about. Here it is.


“The worst experience I ever had was playing against Ronaldo when we faced Internazionale in the 1998 UEFA Cup Final in Paris. He’s an incredible player. I have watched that game on video so many times since then, trying to work out what I did wrong. We lost 3-0 but I don’t think now it was my fault. Ronaldo was simply unstoppable. He is so quick he makes everyone else look as if they are standing still.”
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Coutinho14: 12:50am On May 16, 2020
Put Messi in that 2002 brazil team and he wins wc, it goes both ways.


Messi is debateably a top 5 dribbler of all times


a top 5 passer of all times


a top 5 assists provider of all times


a top 5 scorer of all times


man ticks all the boxes........91 goals in a yr in the only season he played as a no. 9(R9's position), R9 was great but cmon



R9 will be remembered for pacey dribbling and ruthless scoring but Messi will will be remembered for much more than that

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 1:00am On May 16, 2020
madrid5:
it is not Nigerian atheist that has killed millions in the northeast(bokoharam)
All your leaders are looted your money are Muslims and Christians.
Religion has nothing to do with what you said rather the leaders who are bad, they are even using religion to perpetrate evil which God is seriously against.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 1:05am On May 16, 2020
Ibime:


He did not have Messis dribbling. Messi needs much less space to dribble. Ronaldo cannot dribble through 8 parked men. Messi is unique in that aspect.

Not all dribbling are mate. Henry or Mbappe style of dribbling requires much space. Ronaldo De Lima less so, Ronaldinho or Maradona even less. . . .and Messi needs the least amount of space to dribble from all footballers I've witnessed.
The post meant Messi dribbling ability not same style of execution. Just because Messi has more ball control in tight spaces doesn't mean he is a better dribbler. Messi has better control of the ball, Ronaldo has the speed advantage and his physical strength to bully defenders. On a break away face to face with two defenders Ronaldo for me but in the middle of the field surrounded by 3 players then Messi. I will still rate Ronaldo dribbling ability above his.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:07am On May 16, 2020
BlueRayDick:
Wey that bros wey dey talk about Charm ring that initiates human grass-eating ability? And those talking about potency of odeshi/traditional bullet proof?

Comman See how ogboni leader fall hand o

https://www.nairaland.com/5860053/stephen-akinkunmi-ogboni-leader-killed

Cc: Ramdeuter

They will tell you say na fake the Ogboni leader get. But we never see the original one
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 2:01am On May 16, 2020
raumdeuter:


They will tell you say na fake the Ogboni leader get. But we never see the original one

Hahahaha grin grin grin......Tales by moonlight stories.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 2:12am On May 16, 2020
Segedinho:

I was adviced never to get close to a female urine as well as avoid eating food cooked with "dog meats"

grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin........If this isn't a piss-take quite literally and figuratively, then I don't know what else is.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Swissh: 3:12am On May 16, 2020
Please calm down with this Messi 73goals in a season in which he was a striker and a poacher at that. When we add context you will find out Suarez tally of 59goals was even more impressive.

Messi 2011/2012..... 60games 59goals from open play

Suarez 2015/2016......53games 55goals from open play.

Messi tally is inflated by his plenty Pks.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 3:55am On May 16, 2020
Swissh:
Please calm down with this Messi 73goals in a season in which he was a striker and a poacher at that. When we add context you will find out Suarez tally of 59goals was even more impressive.

Messi 2011/2012..... 60games 59goals from open play

Suarez 2015/2016......53games 55goals from open play.

Messi tally is inflated by his plenty Pks.
for the first time in your life u have said something reasonable.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 4:54am On May 16, 2020

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 5:13am On May 16, 2020
BlueRayDick:


Maradona's Argentina?

Do u honestly think Maradona was a coach?

See below Maradona's bio as a coach both at club level and international level.In all honesty tell me if u believe IL Fenomeno would've helped olórí burúkú Maradona in any way better than Messi had done

Maradona actually has Messi to thank for taking a team he supposedly coached to the world cup and even winning matches at the world cup sef.

I don't think his bio matters here even pep guardiola was a gamble and he did well.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 6:19am On May 16, 2020
Messi --73 goals - 28 assists.

It's funny, when you try to downplay messi's achievements.... Thiery henry scored Just 49 in 3 years ( all competition) @ Barcelona

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 6:25am On May 16, 2020
Dem talk say na Virus ba?

Well, Madagascar come reason the matter, see say the symptoms were curable, and even preventable. So, guyman come arrange solution for the problem dem claim say dem wan solve with needles.

But even as he has proven his case with groundbreaking results, dem come dey vex, as dem feel say em wan put sand sand for their garri.

In an exclusive interview with FRANCE 24 and RFI, Madagascar's President Andry Rajoelina defended his promotion of a controversial homegrown remedy for Coro.

"What if this remedy had been discovered by a European country, instead of Madagascar? Would people doubt it so much? I don't think so," the president told FRANCE 24's Marc Perelman and RFI's Christophe Boisbouvier.

"What is the problem with Covid-Organics, really? Could it be that this product comes from Africa? Could it be that it's not OK for a country like Madagascar, which is the 63rd poorest country in the world... to have come up with (this formula) that can help save the world?" asked Rajoelina.

Equatorial Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Niger and Tanzania have already taken delivery of consignments of Covid-Organics, which was launched last month.

"No one will stop us from moving forward – not a country, not an organisation".

He said the proof of the tonic's efficacy was in the "healing" of "our patients", calling it a "preventive and curative remedy".

Rajoelina said Madagascar has reported 171 coronavirus infections and 105 recoveries to date, with NO DEATHS.

"The patients who have healed have taken no other product than Covid-Organics," the president added.

However, according to a recent publication by the Tanzanian newspaper, Perspective, the key players in this 2020 games tried to bribe him with $20M to get out of the race.

Now, it'd be his word against theirs unless he can show proof of the bribery attempt.

But it just so happens that Andry is more woke than most African supposed literates who don't see beyond Mainstream Media's controlled narratives.

Our own na to show you shaa.

https://web.mpaper.co.tz/read/show/16448/105/dar-moro-sgr-power-line-phase-ready-soon.html

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 6:32am On May 16, 2020
popizaino:


I don't think his bio matters here even pep guardiola was a gamble and he did well.


Maradona's bio doesn't matter keh? Bro why?

1. You said Messi should have helped Maradona's Argentina if he indeed helped Guardiola's barca.

2. I showed u Maradona's history as a coach. As far as coaching concerned Maradona failed everywhere. It is visible to any neutral person. He failed as a coach at the club level before being a bigger failure at the national level . Only a country like Nigeria would've appointed Maradona head coach with his unimpressive stats.

3. Tho Barca gambled appointing Pep( Almost all coaches' appointments are gamble anyway), but it was a reasonable gamble. He had just won Barca B promotion playing some good football and his team scoring a handful of goals.

4.Even the 2010 world cup most people taunt messi with, he played under Maradona and was deployed as a playmaker and not a roaming forward.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 7:02am On May 16, 2020
chic2pimp:


grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin........If this isn't a piss-take quite literally and figuratively, then I don't know what else is.
Ok
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 7:08am On May 16, 2020
Ibime:


Kicking no be problem oga. All that is overplayed anyway.

Na the amount of space available to play be the koko.

Haba ibime...you go watch the way wicked tackles dey fly around for serie A and then say its overplayed.

No wahala.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 7:49am On May 16, 2020
diggz:


it will be interesting to see him play as a 9 tbh..

Really Interesting...

Sometimes when he drops to midfield, I become angry

Like how can you be so great a finisher and then decide to be dropping into midfield

That's what affected Rooney too, he dropped deeper and eventually lost the edge he had when he was younger
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Herbiedeen(m): 7:55am On May 16, 2020
Ibime:


He did not have Messis dribbling. Messi needs much less space to dribble. Ronaldo cannot dribble through 8 parked men. Messi is unique in that aspect.

Not all dribbling are mate. Henry or Mbappe style of dribbling requires much space. Ronaldo De Lima less so, Ronaldinho or Maradona even less. . . .and Messi needs the least amount of space to dribble from all footballers I've witnessed.
Abeg
Show me just 1 clip where Messi dribbled past 8 players at a go..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 8:08am On May 16, 2020
Swissh:
Please calm down with this Messi 73goals in a season in which he was a striker and a poacher at that. When we add context you will find out Suarez tally of 59goals was even more impressive.

Messi 2011/2012..... 60games 59goals from open play

Suarez 2015/2016......53games 55goals from open play.

Messi tally is inflated by his plenty Pks.

It's ignorant to say Messi played as a poacher in 2012...

He sometimes played as a 9 but he mostly played as a false 9 dropping into he space between midfield and defense of the opposition

Occasionally he even played off Sanchez that Guardiola mostly deployed as a 9. For example against Chelsea in the second leg, Sanchez was the No 9 while Messi played in the hole behind him

Check his assists from midfield that season and come back and tell me he was a poacher...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 8:11am On May 16, 2020
Swissh:
Please calm down with this Messi 73goals in a season in which he was a striker and a poacher at that. When we add context you will find out Suarez tally of 59goals was even more impressive.

Messi 2011/2012..... 60games 59goals from open play

Suarez 2015/2016......53games 55goals from open play.

Messi tally is inflated by his plenty Pks.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 8:15am On May 16, 2020
Kimbeast:

The post meant Messi dribbling ability not same style of execution. Just because Messi has more ball control in tight spaces doesn't mean he is a better dribbler. Messi has better control of the ball, Ronaldo has the speed advantage and his physical strength to bully defenders. On a break away face to face with two defenders Ronaldo for me but in the middle of the field surrounded by 3 players then Messi. I will still rate Ronaldo dribbling ability above his.

Lol... Messi has both speed and strength in abundant quantities...

The type of dribbling you credit Ronaldo for has also been done by Messi...

So a person can dribble in the tiniest of spaces against numerous defenders but if given more space against fewer defenders, he won't be able to dribble?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 8:28am On May 16, 2020
randomperson:


It's ignorant to say Messi played as a poacher in 2012...

He sometimes played as a 9 but he mostly played as a false 9 dropping into he space between midfield and defense of the opposition

Occasionally he even played off Sanchez that Guardiola mostly deployed as a 9. For example against Chelsea in the second leg, Sanchez was the No 9 while Messi played in the hole behind him

Check his assists from midfield that season and come back and tell me he was a poacher...


As if, it's easy to score goals at Barcelona, ask him how many goals his club legend Henry, scored there. As if Delima didn't play with great players.

If you ask them to compare Messi and De lima using their figures and awards, you will be hearing "would have" "should be " "kanipe" "if", as if that's our business.

If you think it's easy to stay fit, why can't De lima stay fit by following routines, taking care of his weight gain problem, he is not disciplined enough......... De lima scored 83 goals in 5 seasons at Real Madrid, Messi beat that figure in just a year.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 8:28am On May 16, 2020
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