"She had heard the reports concerning Jesus, and she came up behind Him in the throng and touched His garment, For she kept saying, If I only touch His garments, I shall be restored to health. And immediately her flow of blood was dried up at the source, and [suddenly] she felt in her body that she was healed of her [distressing] ailment. And Jesus, recognizing in Himself that the power proceeding from Him had gone forth, turned around immediately in the crowd and said, Who touched My clothes?" (Mark 5:27-31 amp)

This same Jesus Christ Crucified carrying *an overflowing LIFE and POWER* is still *moving about in our world today through His Holy Spirit*

Anybody who *agrees to make up his/her mind like this woman* saying *Lord, I touch the helm of your garment right now by faith in your death on the Cross and resurrection for me*

Shall receive *a new life of Jesus Christ Crucified; completely healed in soul, spirit and body*

Alleluia!!!

Thank You Jesus Christ Crucified; Our Fresh and Ever-Renewing LIFE/REALITY/ENCOUNTER!!!

Bare4040:
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what's the meaning of this nonsense naw, every thread what's this?

ochibuogwu5:

Anybody who *agrees to make up his/her mind like this woman* saying *Lord, I touch the helm of your garment right now by faith in your death on the Cross and resurrection for me*
Shall receive *a new life of Jesus Christ Crucified; completely healed in soul, spirit and body*
!

@OP, unfortunately no where in the Bible is the statement you made there found. There is no documentation in there that the woman that touched the hem of Jesus's garments was saved or received a new life of Jesus Christ.
In fact, from the record indicated in the gospels, Jesus taught at least 5000 people during his time on earth, and he may have healed many hundreds. But at the time of his death, there is no record that more than a handful where his disciples.

Kobojunkie:

@OP, unfortunately no where in the Bible is the statement you made there found. There is no documentation in there that the woman that touched the hem of Jesus's garments was saved or received a new life of Jesus Christ.
In fact, from the record indicated in the gospels, Jesus taught at least 5000 people during his time on earth, and he may have healed many hundreds. But at the time of his death, there is no record that more than a handful where his disciples.

Na so?
Be reading bible like recharge card.

CodeTemplar:
Na so?
Be reading bible like recharge card.

I don't read it like recharge card. I read it like I would read any other book out there. That is how you actually learn what is in the book and separate your personal delusions and ideas from what is written.

"And wherever HE(Jesus Christ Crucified) came into villages or cities or the country, they would lay the sick in the marketplaces and beg Him *that they might touch even the fringe of His outer garment*, and *as many as touched Him were restored to health*."
(Mark 6:56 amp)

ochibuogwu5:
"And wherever HE(Jesus Christ Crucified) came into villages or cities or the country, they would lay the sick in the marketplaces and beg Him *that they might touch even the fringe of His outer garment*, and *as many as touched Him were restored to health*."
(Mark 6:56 amp)

Being healed is not the same as being saved. Two different things happening there.

Exodus 20:5..
"i am the lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the land of bondage, you shall have no other God before me."

You shall not make the image or LIKENESS of anything in heaven or on earth or under the waters below the earth, you shall not bow down to them or serve them"

So why do Christians think that serving the image and likeness of a man, something that is found on earth is acceptable to God our creator..

I need clarification.

sonmvayina:
Exodus 20:5..
"i am the lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the land of bondage, you shall have no other God before me."

You shall not make the image or LIKENESS of anything in heaven or on earth or under the waters below the earth, you shall not bow down to them or serve them"

So why do Christians think that serving the image and likeness of a man, something that is found on earth is acceptable to God our creator..

I need clarification.

To be Christ like or Christian is to come to the knowledge and understanding that God is God indeed and that indeed He is very good. And because we are the direct recipients of his great goodness, we pay our respects to Him and honour Him, through the doing of all that pleases Him.

Therefore a true Christian knows and understands that God is everywhere and in everything He Created and that He is a Spirit and therefore we can Find Him everywhere. So we do not require any image or thing to find Him. We already know how to find Him and we find Him!

Kobojunkie:

@OP, unfortunately no where in the Bible is the statement you made there found. There is no documentation in there that the woman that touched the hem of Jesus's garments was saved or received a new life of Jesus Christ.
In fact, from the record indicated in the gospels, Jesus taught at least 5000 people during his time on earth, and he may have healed many hundreds. But at the time of his death, there is no record that more than a handful where his disciples.

I concur

Kobojunkie:

@OP, unfortunately no where in the Bible is the statement you made there found. There is no documentation in there that the woman that touched the hem of Jesus's garments was saved or received a new life of Jesus Christ.
In fact, from the record indicated in the gospels, Jesus taught at least 5000 people during his time on earth, and he may have healed many hundreds. But at the time of his death, there is no record that more than a handful where his disciples.

I concur, being healed and being saved are not the same and can never be the same

sonmvayina:
Exodus 20:5..
"i am the lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the land of bondage, you shall have no other God before me."

You shall not make the image or LIKENESS of anything in heaven or on earth or under the waters below the earth, you shall not bow down to them or serve them"

So why do Christians think that serving the image and likeness of a man, something that is found on earth is acceptable to God our creator..

I need clarification.

In fact such reduction to an image shows the height and depth of the scorn and gross disrespect of the Most High. Wickedly Ridiculing The Greatest to the form of an image or likeness of 'Dust' man , oh what spiteful insult, besmirch, smearing, disdain...

Mtcheew! He would judge them all.

Dtruthspeaker:


To be Christ like or Christian is to come to the knowledge and understanding that God is God indeed and that indeed He is very good. And because we are the direct recipients of his great goodness, we pay our respects to Him and honour Him, through the doing of all that pleases Him.

Therefore a true Christian knows and understands that God is everywhere and in everything He Created and that He is a Spirit and therefore we can Find Him everywhere. So we do not require any image or thing to find Him. We already know how to find Him and we find Him!

Good points.. So how does Jesus fits into all you said? God has already given us how to do all that in the Torah.. Leviticus 18:1-5

sonmvayina:


Good points.. So how does Jesus fits into all you said? God has already given us how to do all that in the Torah.. Leviticus 18:1-5

Yes God did but (check this out), have you not seen who oftentimes does the works of God?

1) "let there be light" among other creation commandments. Who made it happen?
2) "let US make man... Who is Us? And skip to John 1:2-4.

There are too many instances in the Bible which prove the great power of Christ over us and 2 obvious ones are found in Genesis (you would see that first we are introduced to God, then Lord God, the Lord. And after these, God spoke and the Lord also spoke. And by Moses's time in Deuteronomy, it was mostly the Lord speaking.

And the Second great proof is found in John5:22, He who came to save us is the very selfsame person who shall judge all men.

Christ also commands the Angels, check every recording of the visitation of an Angel, meanwhile, all men visited by them were greatly afraid of them. Numbers 22:22, Genesis 18 etc

Shall we not fear the commander of Angels whom we fear already?

Dtruthspeaker:


Yes God did but (check this out), have you not seen who oftentimes does the works of God?

1) "let there be light" among other creation commandments. Who made it happen?
2) "let US make man... Who is Us? And skip to John 1:2-4.

There are too many instances in the Bible which prove the great power of Christ over us and 2 obvious ones are found in Genesis (you would see that first we are introduced to God, then Lord God, the Lord. And after these, God spoke and the Lord also spoke. And by Moses's time in Deuteronomy, it was mostly the Lord speaking.

And the Second great proof is found in John5:22, He who came to save us is the very selfsame person who shall judge all men.

Christ also commands the Angels, meanwhile check every recording of the visitation of an Angel, all men visited by them were greatly afraid of them. Numbers 22:22, Genesis 18 etc

Go through my post. I have given answers to these points you raised..

Let us (God the father +God the mother)... You only need two parents, father and mother to create a human being, not father and son..

God the mother is the earth (mother nature).. She provided the dust for the body while God provided the spirit.. Read Ecclesiastes 12 :7

sonmvayina:


Go through my post. I have given answers to these points you raised..

Let us (God the father +God the mother)... You only need two parents, father and mother to create a human being, not father and son..

God the mother is the earth (mother nature).. She provided the dust for the body while God provided the spirit.. Read Ecclesiastes 12 :7

Whow! Father+Mother=Children. This is where I must stop for youu have brought in sex into the creation equation which was not there?

Twice where we shown how man was manufactured from dust exactly like Plasticine moldings we made as children. While none of us could give life to those plasticine models of man, woman or animals, it was not so with God and us, we live.

We all created our plasticine men by ourselves and sex was not involved. Genesis 2:7 and Ezekiel 37:2-14 particularly 4-10.

Under ecclesiastics, your creation understanding destroys you for the earth too is a creation also like you said and we creations also rule over it. Genesis 1:26.

Dtruthspeaker:


Whow! Father+Mother=Children. This is where I must stop for youu have brought in sex into the creation equation which was not there?

Twice where we shown how man was manufactured from dust exactly like Plasticine moldings we made as children. While none of us could give life to those plasticine models of man, woman or animals, it was not so with God and us, we live.

We all created our plasticine men by ourselves and sex was not involved. Genesis 2:7 and Ezekiel 37:2-14 particularly 4-10.

Under ecclesiastics, your creation understanding destroys you for the earth too is a creation also like you said and we creations also rule over it. Genesis 1:26.

God was talking to the earth... Learn to read scriptures in context...

sonmvayina:


God was talking to the earth... Learn to read scriptures in context...

I don't understand, now you have shifted from sex to talking? Even in the express declaration by the scriptures how all things were made over and over again all across scriptures, the evidence of which we have seen and we are witnesses?

Modified!
Now I understand your filthy mind and that you were Acting being a lover of God meanwhile you are just plain Evil!, Satan himself!

Can't be bothered about you because the Mighty would soon Deal with you and though we can not imagine what punishment you must serve but we know that IT SHALL BE VERY VERY VERY TERRIBLE FOR YOU and your children and your family and your friends and your employees and all who follow you!!!

Kobojunkie:

I don't read it like recharge card. I read it like I would read any other book out there. That is how you actually learn what is in the book and separate your personal delusions and ideas from what is written.

You see where your problem is. If I should give you news paper and a Chase novel, will you read it the same way.

delkuf:
You see where your problem is. If I should give you news paper and a Chase novel, will you read it the same way.

What the heck do you mean by that?

Dtruthspeaker:


I don't understand, now you have shifted from sex to talking? Even in the express declaration by the scriptures how all things were made over and over again all across scriptures, the evidence of which we have seen and we are witnesses?

Modified!
Now I understand your filthy mind and that you were Acting being a lover of God meanwhile you are just plain Evil!, Satan himself!

Can't be bothered about you because the Mighty would soon Deal with you and though we can not imagine what punishment you must serve but we know that IT SHALL BE VERY VERY VERY TERRIBLE FOR YOU and your children and your family and your friends and your employees and all who follow you!!!

You really need to see a psychiatric.. Asap

sonmvayina:


You really need to see a psychiatric.. Asap

No I don't.

But I what I want and did is that I am using this means to Lay up a Case Against You, Before our Creator to Judge between us that which is good from that which is evil. And between Us who has done the good and he who has done evil.

sonmvayina:

So why do Christians think that serving the image and likeness of a man, something that is found on earth is acceptable to God our creator..
I need clarification.

What clarification do you need?

Kobojunkie:

What clarification do you need?

How possible is it for God to be the creator and also part of creation...

Educate me..

Dtruthspeaker:


No I don't.

But I what I want and did is that I am using this means to Lay up a Case Against You, Before our Creator to Judge between us that which is good from that which is evil. And between Us who has done the good and he who has done evil.

God gave us laws to follow ,to guide us to make better choices..even if we make bad choices all he says is confess and forsake your evil ways..I will forgive you..he does not need a human sacrifice before he can forgive..he went Jonah to Nineveh ..they repented,he forgave them..

Read 2nd Chronicles 7:14.

There was never any need for Jesus..NEVER...

HE is just a character created by Rome to deceive people with no sense,and you fell for it....

sonmvayina:


How possible is it for God to be the creator and also part of creation...

Educate me..

Educate you? Would it be better if you took your time to read the book yourself?

Kobojunkie:

Educate you? Would it be better if you took your time to read the book yourself?

You have read it ,I suppose...please explain to me like am a 10 year old..

If you mean the Bible ..I have read it. And found this in Isaiah 45.

"I am the Lord, and there is no other; besides Me there is no God: I will strengthen you although you have not known Me.
6In order that they know from the shining of the sun and from the west that there is no one besides Me; I am the Lord and there is no other. light and creates darkness, Who makes peace and creates evil; I am the Lord, Who makes all these."

sonmvayina:


You have read it ,I suppose...please explain to me like am a 10 year old..

If you mean the Bible ..I have read it. And found this in Isaiah 45.

"I am the Lord, and there is no other; besides Me there is no God: I will strengthen you although you have not known Me.
6In order that they know from the shining of the sun and from the west that there is no one besides Me; I am the Lord and there is no other. light and creates darkness, Who makes peace and creates evil; I am the Lord, Who makes all these."

I wouldn't even know where to begin given i am a firm believer that God himself has the sole power to teach anyone about Himself.

Kobojunkie:


I wouldn't even know where to begin given i am a firm believer that God himself has the sole power to teach anyone about Himself.

I guess you have lost the chain of discussion..

I am of the opinion that there is only one God,the creator of the heaven and Earth..
And op is talking about Jesus...I don't see how Jesus is connected to God or man in anyway..

I asked for clarification on the role of Jesus and how God can be the creator and also part of creation..

Please what is your own take..?

What is your own idea..

Kobojunkie:

Being healed is not the same as being saved. Two different things happening there.

Explain both and state the differences...

sonmvayina:


God gave us laws to follow ,to guide us to make better choices..even if we make bad choices all he says is confess and forsake your evil ways..I will forgive you..he does not need a human sacrifice before he can forgive..he went Jonah to Nineveh ..they repented,he forgave them..

Read 2nd Chronicles 7:14.

There was never any need for Jesus..NEVER...

HE is just a character created by Rome to deceive people with no sense,and you fell for it....

See how you are running all over the place? First we started from the worship of God through images, I answered that it must not be done by anyone who is genuinely seeking to worship God.

Then you asked about why we follow Jesus, I Answered to the effect that it is Jesus who created us and Rules over us by the Power and Authority Given by the same God who claim to serve, which I now think you do not.

You requested the proof of this and I showed you through the use of Plasticine.

Then you said the most vile and guile and horid thing I have ever heard "That God had sex with the earth to create man."

Man you can not recover from that shit!

Now you have again insulted the Lord, God (exactly as Satan does insult God day and night) and you expect I would answer you.

I answer you thus

Isaiah 2:10-22 King James Version (KJV)

10 Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty.

11 The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day.

12 For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:

18 And the idols he shall utterly abolish.

19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.

21 To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.

22 Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of ?