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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nwanyiogwashi(f): 9:47pm On May 19, 2020
Sunshineg5:
You mean complaining in Delta?

Google is your friend
We will soon kick them out

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by forgiveness: 9:48pm On May 19, 2020
darfay:



Please stay out of this thread
It's about Anioma and urhobo.

Create a thread for your Yoruba itsekiri nonsense. Nobody cares especially not here

My bloodline are Uhrobo/Yoruba. grin

This a public forum and as long as it remains so, anything debunk-able MUST be debunked. EOD

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by efe2real(m): 9:49pm On May 19, 2020
Funny thread. The Urhobos are the largest ethnic group in Delta State. That is not even disputable.

In terms cities, the aniomas can only boast of Asaba which was developed by the resources of the whole state. Of course, Deltans need to have a capital they can be proud of. Oghara is more developed than Kwale, Ogwa-shuku. Maybe, Agbor and Oghara are on the same level. Let's not even compare any Aniomas towns to Effurun, Udu, Sapele, Ughelli, and Warri. There are 2 Urhobos kingdoms in Warri: Okere-Urhobo and Agbarha Kingdom, with their Kings respectively. So the Urhobos have a major stake in Warri.

One thing most people don't know is that many of the areas reffered to as Warri are not really in Warri. In fact the Warri refinery and PTI are in Ekpan and Effurun respectively in Uvwie local government, which is an Urhobo land. The areas surrounding Warri are Urhobo lands, but they are all lumped into Warri. But outsiders don't know the difference.

In terms of influence, most people are not aware that the first civilian governor of the Midwestern region is an Urhobos man: Jereton Marierie. Currently, the Godfather of Delta State politics is Ibori. Any observant mind would know that what is common between the last 2 governor's of the state is that they are Ibori boys. Both Okowa and Uduaghan. In fact, Uduaghan is even Ibori's cousin.

In terms of human resources, the Urhobos have that in abundance. My favorite of Brigadier General Oviemo Ovadje (rtd), the inventor of the emergency autotransfusion set (EAT-SET) used to purify and transfuse a patient's blood that would have otherwise been discarded into him/her during surgery or emergency. I Iaugh so hard when someone added a governorship aspirant to the list of notable aniomas sons.

For the record, Isoko is not Urhobo. Okpe is one of the kingdoms in Urhobos.

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Sunshineg5(m): 9:49pm On May 19, 2020
Nwanyiogwashi:
We will soon kick them out
Ok oh

You will settle your dispute amongst yourselves, you can't kick them out of their land now.
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 9:53pm On May 19, 2020
Sunshineg5:
Bro I don't claim anyone

The dude I am arguing with is From Jos but a closet Yoruba hater because he lived among igbos. He wants a Middle belt republic and he thinks hating on Yorubas would be the right way to go about middle belt republic.

Needless to say, Ishekiris have never had any say in their future since the time of Western Nigeria in the 60s

Ishekiris didn't want to leave western region to begin with but forced against their own wishes

Ishekiri didn't want to leave mid west but forced against their wishes

Ishekiris never wanted to be Delta state but forced against their wishes

Ishekiri were killed in the 1997 Warri riots over a where the head quaters of Warri south west should be. Their lands taken over by Ijaws.

I believe going forward, should Nigeria break up, the Ishekiris should allowed to decide where they want to belong.


You and Tobrasky think I am a Yoruba hater, you guys are not serious.

Wait oo, you are saying Itsekiris never wanted to leave the Western region, did those who voted LEAVE not win in Warri divisions?
I used to have that poll result somewhere and I think pro Midwest voters won in Warri division.

Itsekiris killed Ijaws too in that Warri crisis.
Ijaws fight with almost everyone over land. Ikwerres, Ogonis, Binis and even Ilajes. Are Ilajes not in the SW?

You don't appear very smart to me. (Sorry).

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nwanyiogwashi(f): 9:53pm On May 19, 2020
Sunshineg5:
Ok oh

You will settle your dispute amongst yourselves, you can't kick them out of their land now.
Ijaw will soon do that,Anioma people are peace loving peace like me

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by forgiveness: 9:54pm On May 19, 2020
Owologbo:

there's no Yoruba in Delta State.
Even the ilaje that are in Ondo State will tell you they are not Yoruba (make your research).

Bloody liar. Olukumi, Itshekiri and Ilaje are Yorubas in Delta State.

Bloody liar. Ilaje are Yorubas and they never denied it FOR ONCE. grin

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nwanyiogwashi(f): 9:59pm On May 19, 2020
[[s]quote author=forgiveness post=89738937]

Bloody liar. Olukumi, Itshekiri and Ilaje are Yorubas in Delta State.

Bloody liar. Ilaje are Yorubas and they never denied it FOR ONCE. grin[/quote][/s] No Yoruba people in Delta state

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by forgiveness: 10:02pm On May 19, 2020
UHROBOS ARE THE LARGEST ETHNIC GROUP IN DELTA STATE. FACT. grin

ANIOMA IS NOT AN ETHNIC GROUP BUT A CONGLOMERATION OF EDO, YORUBA, IGALA AND IGBO PEOPLE. grin

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by forgiveness: 10:03pm On May 19, 2020
Nwanyiogwashi:
[[s]quote author=forgiveness post=89738937]

Bloody liar. Olukumi, Itshekiri and Ilaje are Yorubas in Delta State.

Bloody liar. Ilaje are Yorubas and they never denied it FOR ONCE. grin[/s] No Yoruba people in Delta state

NO IGBO PEOPLE IN DELTA STATE. grin

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Tobrasky: 10:03pm On May 19, 2020
Nowenuse:


You and Tobrasky think I am a Yoruba hater, you guys are not serious.

Wait oo, you are saying Itsekiris never wanted to leave the Western region, did those who voted LEAVE not win in Warri divisions?
I used to have that poll result somewhere and I think pro Midwest voters won in Warri division.

Itsekiris killed Ijaws too in that Warri crisis.
Ijaws fight with almost everyone over land. Ikwerres, Ogonis, Binis and even Ilajes. Are Ilajes not in the SW?

You don't appear very smart to me. (Sorry).
Wetin I do bros? You got the wrong person bro

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:07pm On May 19, 2020
BrownLondon:

Very good, itshekiri people seems to have a great connection with us, I was surprised when I heard Omawumi, the popular Hip hop star is not Yoruba.

However, they should be the one claiming us albeit I understand you clearly now.

As for Nowenuse , he's a famous Yoruba hater here, he once claimed His Poor Plateau state will jump Nassarawa to join the Dead Biafra, that wrecked state.

Yoruba language is arguably the most spoken second language in Nigeria, that's why those guys want to attach one Igala with us.

If you be musician and you no dey add Yoruba to your lyrics, nah OYO you dey.

Have you ever seen a Yoruba man that can speak Igbo language?

You are very silly. I don't want us to detail this Anioma Urhobo thread with the usual Yoruba-Igbo nonsense.

Anyway, nobody is trying to attach Igalas to you.
Igalas were Yoruba people who were colonized by the Kwararafan empire (Jukuns).

Was I among the linguists who classified Igala as a Yoruboid language?
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:08pm On May 19, 2020
SocialJustice:
Oh really, I don't have the facts and figures so can't dispute.

At the end of the day, this discussion is still unnecessary, the Hausa/Fulani with their large undisputed population are mostly a nuisance and pest to the entirety of Nigeria as almost all negative HDI index Nigeria has are domiciled in the North - Poverty, sickness, out of school children, poor hygiene, child marriage and so on.

Take the itsekiris on the other hand, small ethnic group but powerful politically and economically. Any outsider would think The Olu of Warri is in total control of Warri the same way the Oba of Benin controls Benin city.

The Olu of Warri is not in total control of Warri.

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by forgiveness: 10:08pm On May 19, 2020
Nowenuse:


You and Tobrasky think I am a Yoruba hater, you guys are not serious.

Wait oo, you are saying Itsekiris never wanted to leave the Western region, did those who voted LEAVE not win in Warri divisions?
I used to have that poll result somewhere and I think pro Midwest voters won in Warri division.

Itsekiris killed Ijaws too in that Warri crisis.
Ijaws fight with almost everyone over land. Ikwerres, Ogonis, Binis and even Ilajes. Are Ilajes not in the SW?

You don't appear very smart to me. (Sorry).

Can you please show me the poll result? don't run away like you did the other day when we had Jos vs Ibadan debat. grin

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nwanyiogwashi(f): 10:09pm On May 19, 2020
forgiveness:


NO IGBO PEOPLE IN DELTA STATE. grin
I will soon slap you from here cheesy grin

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by forgiveness: 10:10pm On May 19, 2020
Nowenuse:


You are very silly. I don't want us to detail this Anioma Urhobo thread with the usual Yoruba-Igbo nonsense.

Anyway, nobody is trying to attach Igalas to you.
Igalas were Yoruba people who were colonized by the Kwararafan empire (Jukuns).

Was I among the linguists who classified Igala as a Yoruboid language?

Can you please show me proof Igala were Yoruba people? grin
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:10pm On May 19, 2020
Nwanyiogwashi:
Till tomorrow Urhobo are not the largest in Delta state forget what you hear from people. If you believe that Urhobo people are the largest then ijaw are the 4th largest in Nigeria according to their claim too.If a proper census is conducted today with out adding isoko as Urhobo you will know that it all lies

I lived most of my life in Delta state, so I am not just relying on what people say.

Urhobos outnumber Aniomas, but with a small margin. Both of you are almost the same.
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Sunshineg5(m): 10:10pm On May 19, 2020
Nowenuse:


You and Tobrasky think I am a Yoruba hater, you guys are not serious.

Wait oo, you are saying Itsekiris never wanted to leave the Western region, did those who voted LEAVE not win in Warri divisions?
I used to have that poll result somewhere and I think pro Midwest voters won in Warri division.

Itsekiris killed Ijaws too in that Warri crisis.
Ijaws fight with almost everyone over land. Ikwerres, Ogonis, Binis and even Ilajes. Are Ilajes not in the SW?

You don't appear very smart to me. (Sorry).
Ok oh Smart boy

Please! oh smart one, do you know a lot of Uhrobo and Ijaws were also part of the Warri division that voted?

And putting that into consideration will affect the outcome of the result.

Oh smart One!

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by forgiveness: 10:10pm On May 19, 2020
Nwanyiogwashi:
I will soon slap you from here cheesy grin

Oya na..... grin

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nwanyiogwashi(f): 10:12pm On May 19, 2020
Nowenuse:


I lived most of my life in Delta state, so I am not just relying on what people say.
[s]
Urhobos outnumber Aniomas, but with a small m[/s]argin. Both of you are almost the same.
You lived all your life in Delta state but I am from Delta state

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by forgiveness: 10:14pm On May 19, 2020
Nowenuse:


The Olu of Warri is not in total control of Warri.

The whole of Warri belongs to Itshekiri. The case has been won in court. Sapele was won by Uhrobo.

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:16pm On May 19, 2020
forgiveness:


Can you please show me proof Igala were Yoruba people? grin

First of all, what is Yoruba?

Was Yoruba existing as an ethnic group outside Oyo 150 years ago?

Did Ijebus, Egbas, Okuns, Ekitis, Ijeshas, Ikales, Aworis e.t.c identify themselves as Yorubas in pre-colonial times? Hell no they didn't.

All the Yoruba speaking tribes were merged together under the Yoruba umbrella by the British colonial masters.


Igalas speak a Yoruba based language or Yoruboid language just like the Itsekiris (according to linguists). Google is your friend.

Igalas were neighbors to Yoruba speaking Okun people until Ebiras came and put them asunder.

Just like Okun, Igalas were a Yoruba speaking people. And shared boundary with other Yoruba speakers before Kwararafan colonization came.

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Sunshineg5(m): 10:16pm On May 19, 2020
forgiveness:


Can you please show me proof Igala were Yoruba people? grin
The "very smart boy" will never give any solid proof outside some questionable studies, if he has any.

He knows everything about Nigeria simply because he came from jos and lived in among Igbos who taught him how to hate.

To him, the nonsense he wrote about conquest of Ishekiris and Igala without any documented evidence is sufficient empirical evidence. cheesy

Hence, anyone that questions him becomes dumb.

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:19pm On May 19, 2020
forgiveness:


The whole of Warri belongs to Itshekiri. The case has been won in court. Sapele was won by Uhrobo.

Itsekiris won ownership of Agbassa land but lost that of Okere-Urhobo grin

Besides, can the Itsekiris go and chase the Urhobos out of Agbassa land?

Do u know Warri well? Pls list the parts of Warri urban that are Itsekiri dominated or Itsekiri controlled.

Itsekiris can never take Warri. It can never happen.

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:22pm On May 19, 2020
Sunshineg5:
The "very smart boy" will never give any solid proof outside some questionable studies, if he has any.

He knows everything about Nigeria simply because he came from jos and lived in among Igbos who taught him how to hate.

To him, the nonsense he wrote about conquest of Ishekiris and Igala without any documented evidence is sufficient empirical evidence. cheesy

Hence, anyone that questions him becomes dumb.

I don't understand.

What link do you need?

Do u need a link to show you that Igala is a Yoruboid language? Or you need a link to show that Itsekiri (Warri kingdom) was founded by a Benin prince?

Itsekiris were not conquered by war. They were only unified under one crown by a Benin prince. It was the Okpotos (Igalas) that were conquered by war.
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Sunshineg5(m): 10:22pm On May 19, 2020
Nowenuse:


First of all, what is Yoruba?

Was Yoruba existing as an ethnic group outside Oyo 150 years ago?

Did Ijebus, Egbas, Okuns, Ekitis, Ijeshas, Ikales, Aworis e.t.c identify themselves as Yorubas in pre-colonial times? Hell no they didn't.

All the Yoruba speaking tribes were merged together under the Yoruba umbrella by the British colonial masters.


Igalas speak a Yoruba based language or Yoruboid language just like the Itsekiris (according to linguists). Google is your friend.

Igalas were neighbors to Yoruba speaking Okun people until Ebiras came and put them asunder.

Just like Okun, Igalas were a Yoruba speaking people. And shared boundary with other Yoruba speakers before Kwararafan colonization came.
Oh very smart one

Yorubas actually identify by different names before British

The Central Yorubas were recognize as Akus

Southern and Western Yorubas were called Nago

And North Yorubas were called Oyos or Oyo oba

And Eastern Yoruba were called Olukumi

More importantly, Oh smart one, we had the ifa religion which united us also known as Odu Ifa which the Igalas don't practice.
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Plus10(m): 10:24pm On May 19, 2020
forgiveness:


The whole of Warri belongs to Itshekiri. The case has been won in court. Sapele was won by Uhrobo.
Are you high...which court?
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Ayekotoo(m): 10:26pm On May 19, 2020
Itsekiri dialect is the same as Ijebu dialect. Ask Omawunmi, and Oristefemi

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Sunshineg5(m): 10:27pm On May 19, 2020
Nowenuse:


I don't understand.

What link do you need?

Do u need a link to show you that Igala is a Yoruboid language? Or you need a link to show that Itsekiri (Warri kingdom) was founded by a Benin prince?

Itsekiris were not conquered by war. They were only unified under one crown by a Benin prince. It was the Okpotos (Igalas) that were conquered by war.
Oh very smart one

A Elder stateman amongst the Ishekiri known as Pastor Ayo claimed in an interview that the odu ifa told his people that a prince will come and rule them

Pastor Ayo also claimed they are Yorubas.

So when he eventually came they welcomed him with open hands.

Google is your friend..

You are not the one that would tell me Igala is Yorubiod language, I have read enough about the Igala to understand they are not Yorubas.

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:27pm On May 19, 2020
forgiveness:


Bloody liar. Olukumi, Itshekiri and Ilaje are Yorubas in Delta State.

Bloody liar. Ilaje are Yorubas and they never denied it FOR ONCE. grin

There is no town in Delta state that is indigenously Ilaje. If there is pls mention that town.

Ilajes are settlers in Delta state.

Olukumis are of Yoruba origin, but they are surrounded by Igbo settlements and have been heavily Igbonized. They now identify as Enuani, Anioma or Delta Igbos and not Yoruba.
Infact, the time Olukumis left the west, there was nothing like pan Yoruba identity at that time.

Itsekiris have not come out to officially tell the world that they are Yorubas.
Go to Warri and address Itsekiris as Yorubas (95% of them reject it).

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nwanyiogwashi(f): 10:28pm On May 19, 2020
Nowenuse:


Itsekiris won ownership of Agbassa land but lost that of Okere-Urhobo grin

Besides, can the Itsekiris go and chase the Urhobos out of Agbassa land?

Do u know Warri well? Pls list the parts of Warri urban that are Itsekiri dominated or Itsekiri controlled.

Itsekiris can never take Warri. It can never happen.
Everybody is claiming warri be it Urhobo, itsekiris and ijaws but the truth is that itsekiris are has lost out due to their tiny population

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Ayekotoo(m): 10:29pm On May 19, 2020
All Itsekiri speakers understand central Yoruba but not all Yoruba subgroups understand Itsekiri /Ijebu.

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