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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:44am On May 22, 2020
Efewestern:


Urhobo land doesn't have a direct access to the high sea, but Urhobo land is positioned in such a way that we all need each other, should the Warri port starts functioning, Urhobo land will be needed for operations.


Pls can u explain this?

Warri port is in Itsekiri area.
Burutu port is Ijaw area.
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:53am On May 22, 2020
Lostz:


no one know Ozoro or ogwashi outside biko. sapele, warri, ugheli Agbor, Asaba and to some extent Abraka are the only places known outside Delta.

water is an important aspect of urbanization. when there is no natural water, you provide man made source of water that is available for all.

please we should stop dividing Delta. we should not allow Kanu and his ipob deceive us. Nigeria is not breaking soon. or you think Southeast Igbo will love you more than you fellow Deltans?

please Deltans are United. we are already marrying each other. just last December my cousin went to pay his wife bride price at obiaruku.
if you see me speaking Ukwuani in real life you will even think I am one of you

You are a bit correct with this.

Ikas & Ukwuanis actually seem to prefer and intermarry Urhobos, Isokos & Benins more than the SE Igbos.

Enuanis are the ones who are closer to the SE Igbos or are something like 50-50.
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:56am On May 22, 2020
Sunshineg5:
So you just know that the ipob tout is boy and probably from South East. He has knowledge of Delta because he probably spent some of his life in Delta.

In my entire life, I have never seen igbos in Delta fight Uhrobos openly.

Nwanyiogwashi does not even know anything about Delta state. All he/she does is rant endlessly and pointlessly.

We know the real Aniomas when we see them.
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:59am On May 22, 2020
myobjective:


Human world over works better and build a nation with people that share similarities with. Most western European nations are ethnically homogenous or closely related ethnic groups. Even at that, these countries still find a way to decentralized power among the tribal groups.

A country like Belgium has the landmass of a state like Kogi but with a population of just 11.8m people. It has two major ethnic groups in Fleming and Walloon. For centuries these groups have been fighting to have their separate independent countries.

The problem with Africa started when the European show-up, carved the continent into states for administrative convenience and to serve the raw materials need of the west. Consideration for ethnicity, the similarity in culture and political structures was never put into consideration.

If African states were allowed to grow organically, some bigger groups will absorb the smaller group to form near homogenous nation.

Very very correct.
With time, Africa will naturally evolve the way Europe did. Starting from this traphole called Nigeria which will divide in the nearest future.
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 11:03am On May 22, 2020
Liliantalks:
who’s supporting you ,, , u r bitter n u are not Anioma , and it’s obvious. I am against the bitterness not ur points , ANIOMA’s r not Igbos , and aniomas are first deltans before Igbos, that’s why we r called delta Igbo , not Igbo delta . I dont applaud bad character.

If u don't mind, what part of Anioma are you from?
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Sunshineg5(m): 11:23am On May 22, 2020
Nowenuse:


Nwanyiogwashi does not even know anything about Delta state. All he/she does is rant endlessly and pointlessly.

We know the real Aniomas when we see them.
Honestly, while I was at service one could not easily tell the difference between Aniomas Urhobos, Isoko and Ishekiris except they themselves tell you.

They spoke a similar type of pidgin and hardly spoke their local language especially those from Warri axis.
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 11:25am On May 22, 2020
efe2real:


My mum is from Okpe, but my dad is Urhobo. So, I grow up in a setting mixed with Urhobo and Okpe. Never have I encounter any Okpe person all throughout my life that vehemently opposed the Urhobo tag. Saying a person is an Okpe person is just like saying another person is an Uvwie, Ughievwen, Udu, Agbarho, Olomu, Oghara, or Jesse person. I don't get where you got the impression that the Okpes reject the Urhobo tag. Abi, nor be the same Warri I still grow up too and even in the midst of people from Okpe kingdom.

These issues have long been settled. Okpe identifies as one of the 24 kingdoms in Urhobos. Isoko is not Urhobo.

Hmm, I don't know if you are being sincere with what you are saying.

@Efewestern, darfay & Mystiquefia

I have met with so many Okpe people who clearly tell me that they are not Urhobos. I have also met with those who accept that they are Urhobos.

Read this below.

https://okpeunionamerica.org/message-to-urhobo-brothers/

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Kwashiman: 11:31am On May 22, 2020
Nowenuse:


You are a bit correct with this.

Ikas & Ukwuanis actually seem to prefer and intermarry Urhobos, Isokos & Benins more than the SE Igbos.

Enuanis are the ones who are closer to the SE Igbos or are something like 50-50.
Mate say what you know. Enuani has NEVER and will never be 50/50 about our Igboness, of all the Anioma groups, we are ones who are 100% conscious about our Igboness, and identity unapologetically with it. Now I can't speak for the Ika/Ukwuani etc, those ones are about 60/40 with their Benin/Igbo identity.

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Supan(m): 11:32am On May 22, 2020
Liliantalks:
I am not a man n definitely not shameless like you , I am anioma and love my delta brothers. Never did I say I hated any tribe . I only do not support Biafra . I love the south east also. But identify myself as deltan first , so does so many Aniomas except the ones that are confused, ass lickers, and so eager for an Igbo tag . I wish them well .

Shame on you madam.

You wanted them to fight their SE brother but it back fired.

I love South East oshi, marry Buhari too, Mrs lover girl

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Kwashiman: 11:33am On May 22, 2020
Nowenuse:


If u don't mind, what part of Anioma are you from?
That fraudster is an Urhobo guy operating the "fratermathy" account, he's been busted already, watch HIM avoid your question... or grandstand on some bullshit made up lie.

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 11:34am On May 22, 2020
Kwashiman:

80% of Anioma are proudly Igbos and identity with their Igboness. Madam Ngozi Okonjo Iweala was on a public health awareness forum on BBC Igbo via a zoom video call few weeks ago, a forum to educate our people about the needs of staying safe amidst the Covid-19 crisis etc, and she didn't stop at nothing to always remind us that she's first and foremost an undiluted Igbo woman and there was no debating that. What you need to realize is that the war did us (our people) dirty, lots of people from my area denied their Igboness including a couple of my family members back then. It's a psychological battle. But the wave of identity crisis is now fast diminishing as many more of our people don't need to be told they are Igbo, they know it and accept it like a badge of honor.

But of course there will always be a few who are battling with whom they are, today they are Ika, tomorrow they are Anioma, the day after they are "Delta Igbo"... Like it's a circus show of confusion galore grin. But we shall overcome, the signs are looking good at least.

No it is not true.

90% of Aniomas accept that they are Delta Ibo, but if you say IGBO, only like 40% accept this (especially towards the Enuani axis).
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Supan(m): 11:35am On May 22, 2020
Nowenuse:


If u don't mind, what part of Anioma are you from?

He can't answer na.

That's an Afonja Anioma man. We all know their chameleon foot print here.
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 11:37am On May 22, 2020
Kwashiman:

That fraudster is an Urhobo guy operating the "fratermathy" account, he's been busted already, watch HIM avoid your question... or grandstand on some bullshit made up lie.

Nope. I grew up in Delta state and I can tell you the truth on ground.

Most Aniomas do not hate Urhobos or see the need to compete or antagonize them as Nwanyiogwashi is doing... Only SE Igbos have such mentality.

Liliantalks is more of an Anioma than Nwanyiogwashi. Take it from me.

Aniomas are very passive in nature and character, they are passive Igbos. We know them when we see them.
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Supan(m): 11:37am On May 22, 2020
Kwashiman:

That fraudster is an Urhobo guy operating the "fratermathy" account, he's been busted already, watch HIM avoid your question... or grandstand on some bullshit made up lie.

That's an Afonja devil that crawled out from Olumo rock.

Nwanyiogashi has sent him to Ogbomosho.

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Kwashiman: 11:39am On May 22, 2020
Nowenuse:


No it is not true.

90% of Aniomas accept that they are Delta Ibo, but if you say IGBO, only like 40% accept this (especially towards the Enuani axis).
Like I said take out Enuani from that illogical "Delta Ibo" tag, it's as asinine as Igbos identifying as "Anambra Igbo" or "Enugu Igbo" etc, maybe the Ika and Ukwuani can call themselves that, in Enuani we say we are IGBOS.

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 11:41am On May 22, 2020
Kwashiman:

Mate say what you know. Enuani has NEVER and will never be 50/50 about our Igboness, of all the Anioma groups, we are ones who are 100% conscious about our Igboness, and identity unapologetically with it. Now I can't speak for the Ika/Ukwuani etc, those ones are about 60/40 with their Benin/Igbo identity.

I didn't mean Enuani was 50-50 about Igboness.

I meant in terms of intermarriage and interrelationships.

Enuanis intermarry and interrelate with Nigerdeltan tribes as much as they do with the SE Igbos.

For Ikas & Ukwuanis on the other hand, they intermarry and interrelate with Nigerdeltan minorities far more than they do with SE Igbos.
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Kwashiman: 11:42am On May 22, 2020
Nowenuse:


Nope. I grew up in Delta state and I can tell you the truth on ground.

Most Aniomas do not hate Urhobos or see the need to compete or antagonize them as Nwanyiogwashi is doing... Only SE Igbos have such mentality.

Liliantalks is more of an Anioma than Nwanyiogwashi. Take it from me.

Aniomas are very passive in nature and character, they are passive Igbos. We know them when we see them.
Where did I state that Aniomas hate Urhobos? And use your brain dude, why do you think the "Liliantalks" account hasn't replied you yet about where he/she comes from in Anioma (make we open the fraudsters nyansh now). And your attempts to paintbrush our SE blood brother's with your divisive narrative is dead on arrival and won't be tolerated. Like I make clear earlier, Anioma is a large body of different Igboid groups...I'm Enuani and proudly Igbo first before anything.

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Kwashiman: 11:43am On May 22, 2020
Nowenuse:


I didn't mean Enuani was 50-50 about Igboness.

I meant in terms of intermarriage and interrelationships.

Enuanis intermarry and interrelate with Nigerdeltan tribes as much as they do with the SE Igbos.

For Ikas & Ukwuanis on the other hand, they intermarry and interrelate with Nigerdeltan minorities far more than they do with SE Igbos.
The marriage percentage between Enuani and SE Igbos is somewhere around 60%.

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 11:46am On May 22, 2020
Kwashiman:

Like I said take out Enuani from that illogical "Delta Ibo" tag, it's as asinine as Igbos identifying as "Anambra Igbo" or "Enugu Igbo" etc, maybe the Ika and Ukwuani can call themselves that, in Enuani we say we are IGBOS.

Enuanis are even the ones who carry DELTA IGBO identity on their head like gala.
I have met with many Ikas & Ndokwas who reject the DELTA IGBO TAG and don't want to have anything to do with the word IGBO.

Go to ENUANI FOUNDATION on Facebook and see the hot debates they have with SE Igbos there time to time.

In Enuani land, it is mostly Ogwashi-uku, Igbuzor, Akuku-Igbo and some Asaba people who strongly flaunt Igbo identity.

Odiani towns, Ebu, Illah, Onicha-Ugbo, Ubulu-uku mostly reject the IGBO tag. While others are very mixed.

However, all Enuanis gladly accept the DELTA IGBO tag.
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Supan(m): 11:46am On May 22, 2020
Mystiquefia:


So there's islam in biafraland after-all. transgendered osuflathead the fake profile yahoo yahoo scammer

Why are you running?

Madness jam madness, come dey run.

You opened a thread for Afonja and other Deltans to filter and separate Igbo from Delta Ibo abi. This thread will reach page 100.

By then there will be no more Delta.

The thin fabrics holding Nigeria will just scatter as ur imaginary Delta.

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 11:54am On May 22, 2020
Kwashiman:

Where did I state that Aniomas hate Urhobos? And use your brain dude, why do you think the "Liliantalks" account hasn't replied you yet about where he/she comes from in Anioma (make we open the fraudsters nyansh now). And your attempts to paintbrush our SE blood brother's with your divisive narrative is dead on arrival and won't be tolerated. Like I make clear earlier, Anioma is a large body of different Igboid groups...I'm Enuani and proudly Igbo first before anything.

Don't force words into my mouth.

I said, Anioma people naturally do not have any feeling of rivalry, antagony or hate for the Urhobos. They see them more as brothers in the same state.

Nwanyiogwashi reeks of this, that is why I doubt she is Anioma.
Aniomas are naturally very friendly, welcoming, neutral and passive people.

I really have no business in whatever you identify with, Aniomas identify differently, but the general identity which majority of them accept is ANIOMA & DELTA IBO.

This has been my observation.

Ask about me on nairaland, people usually say I am Igbo cos I am pro-IPOB, pro seccessionist and quite anti-Yoruba.
So I have no form of beef against Igbo for me to paint them badly.
You can ask the likes of Pazienza or Supan about me.

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Kwashiman: 11:55am On May 22, 2020
Nowenuse:


Enuanis are even the ones who carry DELTA IGBO identity on their head like gala.
I have met with many Ikas & Ndokwas who reject the DELTA IGBO TAG and don't want to have anything to do with the word IGBO.

Go to ENUANI FOUNDATION on Facebook and see the hot debates they have with SE Igbos there time to time.

In Enuani land, it is mostly Ogwashi-uku, Igbuzor, Akuku-Igbo and some Asaba people who strongly flaunt Igbo identity.

Odiani towns, Ebu, Illah, Onicha-Ugbo, Ubulu-uku mostly reject the IGBO tag. While others are very mixed.

However, all Enuanis gladly accept the DELTA IGBO tag.
So you a Middle belt man will really tell me about my own people based on Facebook perceptions? What sort of ridiculous parameter of reasoning is that for Pete's sake? I'm a not only a core Enuani man from Onicha-Ugbo, but I'm definitely in a better position on that basis to TELL you more about which wave my people gravitate towards! We are Igbos FIRST! simple and short. Now if you will stop pointlessly debating me on the facts of my own identity and people, then I can gladly invite you to the whatsapp group we run, there you will meet the Enuanis sons and daughters from all over the world, and maybe that will re-orienrate your warped reasoning.

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 11:57am On May 22, 2020
Kwashiman:

The marriage percentage between Enuani and SE Igbos is somewhere around 60%.

Probably. Within that 60-40, 50-50 range. We're still saying the same thing.

Where are u from in Enuani? Just interested.
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Kwashiman: 11:59am On May 22, 2020
Nowenuse:


Don't force words into my mouth.

I said, Anioma people naturally do not have any feeling of rivalry, antagony or hate for the Urhobos. They see them more as brothers in the same state.

Nwanyiogwashi reeks of this, that is why I doubt she is Anioma.
Aniomas are naturally very friendly, welcoming, neutral and passive people.

I really have no business in whatever you identify with, Aniomas identify differently, but the general identity which majority of them accept is ANIOMA & DELTA IBO.

This has been my observation.

Ask about me on nairaland, people usually say I am Igbo cos I am pro-IPOB, pro seccessionist and quite anti-Yoruba.
So I have no form of beef against Igbo for me to paint them badly.
You can ask the likes of Pazienza or Supan about me.
Enuani are IGBOS first, and then we are from Delta state. I don't patent my ethnicity along some ridiculous narrative of "Delta Ibo" I'm part of Anioma cultural groups and social group forums, and in all my interactions with them, Enuani have never identified themselves as "Delta Igbo" that's the complex we typically see the other Anioma groups use.

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Kwashiman: 11:59am On May 22, 2020
Nowenuse:


Probably. Within that 60-40, 50-50 range. We're still saying the same thing.

Where are u from in Enuani? Just interested.
I'm from Onicha-Ugbo.

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 12:02pm On May 22, 2020
Kwashiman:

So you a Middle belt man will really tell me about my own people based on Facebook perceptions? What sort of ridiculous parameter of reasoning is that for Pete's sake? I'm a not only a core Enuani man from Onicha-Ugbo, but I'm definitely in a better position on that basis to TELL you more about which wave my people gravitate towards! We are Igbos FIRST! simple and short. Now if you will stop pointlessly debating me on the facts of my own identity and people, then I can gladly invite you to the whatsapp group we run, there you will meet the Enuanis sons and daughters from all over the world, and maybe that will re-orienrate your warped reasoning.

I am not interested in arguing this further with you.

Whatever I state here is my opinion. And as an outsider who grew up in Delta state, I believe my opinions are not bias.
You can see that I challenged Urhobos here too where I felt they were wrong. You can check the thread from the beginning.

Also, as someone who is more pro-Igbo on nairaland. I have nothing to gain telling lies against the Igbos. Or purposely wanting to divide them. Rather I even urge Anioma people in real life to be more pro-Igbo. Cos I prefer the greater consolidation of African ethnic groups and not Balkanization.
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Liliantalks: 12:02pm On May 22, 2020
Nowenuse:


If u don't mind, what part of Anioma are you from?
paternally Ogwashi
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 12:06pm On May 22, 2020
Kwashiman:

I'm from Onicha-Ugbo.

Okay nice. Ibe Kachikwu is from your town. I also have a very close friend from Igbodo, your neighbouring town and this guy is a walking encyclopedia.
He is one of the founders of the PROUDLY ANIOMA PROUDLY IGBO group on Facebook. Perhaps u may know him?

What quarter/clan are you from in Onicha-Ugbo?

Apart from Ibe Kachikwu, which other influential people are from your town?
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Liliantalks: 12:08pm On May 22, 2020
Supan:


Shame on you madam.

You wanted them to fight their SE brother but it back fired.

I love South East oshi, marry Buhari too, Mrs lover girl
I know it’s only one person tagging me with different accounts. Is this thread even about the south east? Gtfoh!! I keep saying this , I understand why a south east person will appauld this thread , when most of you don’t know unity even with yourselves . IMO bash anambra , anambra bash IMO , Abia bash IMO , I will never encourage my delta brothers to be like that .
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Liliantalks: 12:11pm On May 22, 2020
Kwashiman:

Where did I state that Aniomas hate Urhobos? And use your brain dude, why do you think the "Liliantalks" account hasn't replied you yet about where he/she comes from in Aniom a (make we open the fraudsters nyansh now). And your attempts to paintbrush our SE blood brother's with your divisive narrative is dead on arrival and won't be tolerated. Like I make clear earlier, Anioma is a large body of different Igboid groups...I'm Enuani and proudly Igbo first before anything.
do you think I am jobless ??
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Kwashiman: 12:13pm On May 22, 2020
Nowenuse:


Okay nice. Ibe Kachikwu is from your town. I also have a very close friend from Igbodo, your neighbouring town and this guy is a walking encyclopedia.
He is one of the founders of the PROUDLY ANIOMA PROUDLY IGBO group on Facebook. Perhaps u may know him?

What quarter/clan are you from in Onicha-Ugbo?

Apart from Ibe Kachikwu, which other influential people are from your town?
I'm from Ogbe Obi.

Jude Monye an Olympic silver medal winner is also from Onicha-Ugbo as far as I know, not very familiar with lots of other notable ones like Ibe Kachikwu.

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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Kwashiman: 12:14pm On May 22, 2020
Liliantalks:
do you think I am jobless ??
More like a terrible liar grin

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