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Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 9:24am On Jun 04, 2020 |
Emusan: If it wasn't just his way of showing respect due to lack of proper knowledge of proskuneo, I EXPECTED HIM TO DECLARE JESUS AS HIS GOD , Show me where he claimed this ? Its taking you years to do this. Dont know why Isn't this the same man that spoke vehemently against trinity ?
Show me the declaration ? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 9:26am On Jun 04, 2020 |
Emusan: Question is : Is Jesus OUR GOD ? Where does the Bible call him OUR GOD like the Father ? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 9:26am On Jun 04, 2020 |
Emusan:like a said earlier,i stand with the JW concerning this |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 9:30am On Jun 04, 2020 |
Peacefullove: So Russell only shows Christ RESPECT because he LACKS THE PROPER KNOWLEDGE of Proskuneo. So now that Proskuneo isn't worshipped, are we to respect Christ? Your lying mouth will continue to rope you in. Show me the declaration ? Who should we PRAY TO and worship according to the scripture? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 9:31am On Jun 04, 2020 |
Peacefullove: Answer my questions! Is Jesus God? Is Jesus OUR SAVIOR? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 9:33am On Jun 04, 2020 |
Rozz: Of course, you have right to stand with anyone but that doesn't answer my questions Is Jesus God? Is Jesus OUR SAVIOR? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 9:37am On Jun 04, 2020 |
Emusan: So u can't prove where Russell claimed Jesus is his God ?
Pray this way " OUR FATHER " That's whom all Prayer and worship be directed to. This would mean no reference of worship should be applied to men or Jesus in the Bible. But so long we have such reference people will pray and worship Jesus. Which is wrong. But some dont know. So far they didnt claim Jesus is their God. |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 9:37am On Jun 04, 2020 |
Emusan: So u can't prove where Russell claimed Jesus is his God ?
Pray this way " OUR FATHER " That's whom all Prayer and worship be directed to. This would mean no reference of worship should be applied to men or Jesus in the Bible. But so long we have such reference people will pray and worship Jesus. Which is wrong. But some dont know. So far they didnt claim Jesus is their God. [sup][/sup] 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 9:39am On Jun 04, 2020 |
Emusan: This is not the answer to my question, am Also called God , angels are also called God. The focus point is : WHO IS CALLED OUR GOD ?
The Father is also OUR saviour . now show me where Jesus Is called OUR God just like the Father ? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 9:40am On Jun 04, 2020 |
Rozz: He know he can't find any such verse. Trying to deflect. ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 9:48am On Jun 04, 2020 |
Peacefullove: Now see the way she boycotted my point and question! Here again So Russell only shows Christ RESPECT because he LACKS THE PROPER KNOWLEDGE of Proskuneo. So now that Proskuneo isn't worshipped, are we to respect Christ? Your lying mouth will continue to rope you in. Pray this way " OUR FATHER " "SOME DON'T KNOW" Who are these "SOME"? And Wasn't that verse already in the scripture before Russell was born? What is the essence of Russell being the very MOUTHPIECE of Jehovah and yet Jehovah allowed him to die in this wrong believe? Like I said earlier, your lying mouth will continue to rope you in. |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 9:51am On Jun 04, 2020 |
Peacefullove: Give a straight answer nobody asked you to rant! Is Jesus God? The Father is also OUR saviour . now show me where Jesus Is called OUR God just like the Father ? Is Jesus OUR SAVIOR? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 11:12am On Jun 04, 2020 |
Peacefullove: Nah WA o.....my 6 year old nephew get sense pass u. I am going by your analogy o.....is it your brain I will use bfre. Does a sinful life style have an effect on a man's spirit.....ansa this question to cure Ur delusion |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 1:00pm On Jun 04, 2020 |
Emusan: God raised Moses from childhood to serve as God before the Egyptians and their King and Saviour for his people in Egypt, yet Moses relied solely on Jehovah who appointed him! Exodus 7:1 Jesus was raised by the same Jehovah to serve as God as he Controls all the forces of nature even raising a man dead for days, and with his blood he paid for the sin of obedient mankind as saviour, yet Jesus relied solely on Jehovah who appointed him! 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 God bless you! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by achorladey: 5:52pm On Jun 04, 2020 |
Emusan: Emusan: What is the essence of Russell being the very MOUTHPIECE of Jehovah and yet Jehovah allowed him to die in this wrong believe? Achorladey: He was JEHOVAH'S MOUTHPIECE and worshipping SOMEONE ELSE that supports IDOLATRY(JESUS) All from the same MOUTH. All in the name of trying to prove Man(RUSSELL) not to be a LIAR they even went ahead to call God's PROPHET IDOLATERS and Rope Jesus as IDOLATERS. Yet in 2020 Watchtower still clearly States the FOCUS of WORSHIP of RUSSEL and Co was not JEHOVAH. Another ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 1:49am On Jun 05, 2020 |
freshboi88: It doesnt have any effect on mans breath of life/spirit. Its a figurative expression, even Jesus used it for the prodigal son saying " Your brother was dead" does it mean he actually died ? U dont have sense. Those dead that are preached to at 1Pet 4:6 , where was the preaching done ? Hell ? U are cornered. 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 1:51am On Jun 05, 2020 |
Emusan: I should tell you that actually, Give a straight forward answer from the bible: Is Jesus OUR GOD ? I am God too, Jesus , angels are Gods too God but not Almighty God and not our God. Me, angels , Jesus all HAVE A SUPREME GOD above us. That is OUR GOD.
Yeah he is , Just as the Father. Where is Jesus called OUR GOD ? 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 1:53am On Jun 05, 2020 |
Emusan: Rants , I need prove for where Russell claimed Jesus is HIS GOD ? 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 7:06am On Jun 05, 2020 |
Peacefullove: If sin has no effect on a mans spirit, then y is it important for a man to keep his spirit blameless. 23 May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24The one who calls you is faithful, and he will do it. I thought you teach a man's spirit is the breadth of life and so it's a force, so how can it be possible to find blame in a fault.? U go wound yourself today |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 9:39am On Jun 05, 2020 |
Peacefullove: Yes! I am God too, Jesus , angels are Gods too You and Jesus are God but you respect Jesus! Then both Jesus and the Father is OUR GOD! Where is Jesus called OUR GOD ? OUR savior is OUR GOD! Where is Jesus called Angel Michael? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 9:43am On Jun 05, 2020 |
Peacefullove: You called it rant because your lying mouth is being exposed. Now see the way she boycotted my point and question! Here again So Russell only shows Christ RESPECT because he LACKS THE PROPER KNOWLEDGE of Proskuneo. So now that Proskuneo isn't worshipped, are we to respect Christ? Your lying mouth will continue to rope you in. "SOME DON'T KNOW" Who are these "SOME"? And Wasn't that verse already in the scripture before Russell was born? What is the essence of Russell being the very MOUTHPIECE of Jehovah and yet Jehovah allowed him to die in this wrong believe? Like I said earlier, your lying mouth will continue to rope you in. |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 12:54pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
Emusan: king Solomon worshipped idols. He knew idolatry is wrong. Did king Solomon not sit on Jehovah's throne? 1 Chro29:23. * 1 Kings 11:4-7 4For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods; and his heart was not perfect with Jehovah his God, as was the heart of David his father. 5 For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites. 6 And Solomon did that which was evil in the sight of Jehovah, and went not fully after Jehovah, as did David his father. 7 Then did Solomon build a high place for Chemosh the abomination of Moab, in the mount that is before Jerusalem, and for Molech the abomination of the children of Ammon. 8 And so did he for all his foreign wives, who burnt incense and sacrificed unto their gods." Did Jehovah REMOVE kingship from Solomon? 1 Kings11:41-31. "41 Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, and all that he did, and his wisdom, are they not written in the book of the acts of Solomon? 42 And the time that Solomon reigned in Jerusalem over all Israel was forty years. 43 And Solomon slept with his fathers, and was buried in the city of David his father: and Rehoboam his son reigned in his stead." Jehovah allowed king Solomon to die in the practice of idolatry. Emusan STOP making Empty NOISE upandan ![]() You have ZERO power to make decisions for Jehovah God. ![]() ![]() |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 2:00pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
Janosky: Modify: No wonder you stopped at vs 7 because you know doing that will expose your lies! From v9 God got angry at Solomon for following wrong path! So the Lord became angry with Solomon, because his heart had turned from the Lord God of Israel, who had appeared to him twice, 10 and had commanded him concerning this thing, that he should not go after other gods; but he did not keep what the Lord had commanded. NKJV My main point is @underlined So it's you and your demonic organization that have power to make decisions for Jehovah God bah? And if I have ZERO power to make decisions for Jehovah God, who then make you a judge that worshipping Jesus won't make Jehovah God to pick me as one of His anointing ones, since Jehovah does what He likes? I know your deluded mouth tune will change now! |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by achorladey: 6:57pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
Emusan: Something interesting come up which is related to your post. Follow this conversation. Non JW: Who is your Shepherd? JW: Psalms 23 stated that Jehovah is my Shepherd, not JESUS. Of course, the term was still applied to Jesus in John 10:11 as I gave above One will be forced to look at John 10:11.......NWT I am the fine shepherd, the fine shepherd surrenders his life in behalf of the sheep. After looking at the above, one will ask is JESUS OUR SHEPHERD? Same as saying is JESUS OUR GOD? which MUMU DETECTOR as be asking all this while. Perhaps we should ask him is JESUS OUR SHEPHERD? Let us see is RESPONSE ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by achorladey: 7:06pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
Janosky: Did SOLOMON died not knowing IDOLATRY is a SIN? Obviously SOLOMON knew well that IDOLATRY is a SIN. He was equally forewarned about IDOLATRY before he eventually became an IDOLATER. You were the ONE making case for RUSSELL that he didn't KNOW worshipping JESUS was WRONG(IDOLATRY). Which is as GOOD as saying RUSSELL don't know IDOLATRY is a SIN. You have roped yourself and equally getting lost in your own VERY DISCUSSION ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by achorladey: 7:09pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
Emusan: Point well placed. He is completely LOST in this DISCUSSION. Na to INSULT remain. |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 8:55pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
Peacefullove: But the Jehovah says there's only one saviour not two.....c as u contradict urself |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 9:37pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
achorladey: You got it accurately.... Just see the way they're making case for Russell and his team of pagan worshippers yet classifying others as an idolaters. Notice this: Q: Who should we pray to? Jws: Quoting Matt 6:9 "Our Father who at in heaven" Q: Then why did Russell and his team pray to Jesus? Jws: He was mislead by translation or didn't know praying to Jesus was wrong. Q: Then, didn't Russell come across Matt 6:9 in his Bible or that verse was written after he was dead? Jws: Show me where he said Jesus was his God? You can see him using Solomon as reference and even the apostles have been accused of making mistakes but they can never answers any of this questions: Did God allow Solomon to die as idolater or the apostles to die in their mistakes (even when they didn't make any)? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 9:39pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
freshboi88: You're making her to be more confused! |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 9:50pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
freshboi88 leave my husbands alone already,just admit it.One thing I like about JW is that they are very decent and strongly principled and they are among the most learned in Christianity as a whole.A Muslim friend told me that its only JW that is practising true Christianity and I had to school him anyways,its because of this Trinity issues that the muslims believes so about JW. |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 9:56pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
Rozz: So how does this guarantee your eternity? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 9:57pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
Emusan:modified |
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