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Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 10:07pm On Jun 05, 2020
Rozz:
freshboi88 leave my husbands alone already,just admit it.One thing I like about JW is that they are very decent and strongly principled and they are among the most learned in Christianity as a whole.A Muslim friend told me that its only JW that is practising true Christianity and I had to school him anyways,its because of this Trinity issues that the muslims believes so about JW.

If they are among the most LEARNED Christian then it means they're many LEARNED out there!

So because your Muslim friend told you something means what?

Should I tell you other people's opinions about JWs?

like I said earlier, what we're discussing here is about eternity!
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 12:17am On Jun 06, 2020
achorladey:


Did SOLOMON died not knowing IDOLATRY is a SIN?

Obviously SOLOMON knew well that IDOLATRY is a SIN. He was equally forewarned about IDOLATRY before he eventually became an IDOLATER.

You were the ONE making case for RUSSELL that he didn't KNOW worshipping JESUS was WRONG(IDOLATRY). Which is as GOOD as saying RUSSELL don't know IDOLATRY is a SIN.


You have roped yourself and equally getting lost in your own VERY DISCUSSION grin grin grin grin

Don't you know that Jehovah made a covenant with David ? Luke 1:31-33. 2 Samuel 7:12-16.
That is the reason king Solomon was ALLOWED to remain on Jehovah's throne.

"but my lovingkindness shall not depart from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before thee."
Compare Exodus 33:19.


Does Jehovah have any covenant with triune pagan deity devotees stubbornly clinging to their DELUSION ? grin


Triune pagan deity devotees shouting upandan with excuses to DISOBEY Jesus Christ injunction @ Matthew 4:10, given by his Father (Deut 6:13. John 15:15).Emusan dey there dey DECEIVE yourself grin
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 12:23am On Jun 06, 2020
Emusan:


If they are among the most LEARNED Christian then it means they're many LEARNED out there!

So because your Muslim friend told you something means what?

Should I tell you other people's opinions about JWs?

like I said earlier, what we're discussing here is about eternity!

Does "other people's opinions about JWs " guarantee their own salvation or Emusan's?
Acts 5:29 .Deut 6:13 Matthew 4:10 .JWs bother NOT ! grin
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by achorladey: 2:41am On Jun 06, 2020
Janosky:


Don't you know that Jehovah made a covenant with David ? Luke 1:31-33. 2 Samuel 7:12-16.
That is the reason king Solomon was ALLOWED to remain on Jehovah's throne.

"but my lovingkindness shall not depart from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before thee."
Compare Exodus 33:19.


Does Jehovah have any covenant with triune pagan deity devotees stubbornly clinging to their DELUSION ? grin


Triune pagan deity devotees shouting upandan with excuses to DISOBEY Jesus Christ injunction @ Matthew 4:10, given by his Father (Deut 6:13. John 15:15).Emusan dey there dey DECEIVE yourself grin

No correlation found in post to my response. It shows you are lost in the discussion already.

What you post up there is PROOF

JEHOVAH extending loving kindness to SOLOMON does not remove the knowledge that Solomon had CONCERNING the fact that Idolatry is a SIN.

I am wondering and working on the COVENANT RUSSELL had with God anyway just like DAVID concerning him being an IDOLATER grin grin grin shocked
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 4:29am On Jun 06, 2020
Emusan:


You called it rant because your lying mouth is being exposed.

Now see the way she boycotted my point and question!

Here again

So Russell only shows Christ RESPECT because he LACKS THE PROPER KNOWLEDGE of Proskuneo.
So now that Proskuneo isn't worshipped, are we to respect Christ?

Your lying mouth will continue to rope you in.

"SOME DON'T KNOW"

Who are these "SOME"?

And Wasn't that verse already in the scripture before Russell was born?

What is the essence of Russell being the very MOUTHPIECE of Jehovah and yet Jehovah allowed him to die in this wrong believe?

Like I said earlier, your lying mouth will continue to rope you in.

Rusell never claimed Jesus is his God, and Russell admit he is nowhere instructed to pray to Jesus. . Can a man say he is nowhere instructed to pray to his God ? Clearly u ain't okay grin

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Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 4:31am On Jun 06, 2020
freshboi88:


But the Jehovah says there's only one saviour not two.....c as u contradict urself

Who make othniel a saviour ?
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 4:53am On Jun 06, 2020
Emusan:


Yes!

You lied. Unless you mean Jesus is the God of the Father.


You and Jesus are God but you respect Jesus!

Even my Boss and parents, I also respect. You no get sense



Then both Jesus and the Father is OUR GOD!

" 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" john 20:17

Let us slot it in and see how it sounds

OUR GOD is also OUR FATHER and Jesus FATHER , Who Is Jesus Father ?


OUR savior is OUR GOD!

Revelation 7:9 says No, it separated our God from the Lamb.

And they were shouting with a great roar, “Salvation comes from our God who sits on the throne and from the Lamb!”

The Lamb is not OUR GOD . Emusan u can faint now



Where is Jesus called Angel Michael?
Where is Silas called Silvanus?

I and Jesus have only one GOD .
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 5:17am On Jun 06, 2020
freshboi88:



If sin has no effect on a mans spirit, then y is it important for a man to keep his spirit blameless.

23 May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24The one who calls you is faithful, and he will do it.

I thought you teach a man's spirit is the breadth of life and so it's a force, so how can it be possible to find blame in a fault.?


U go wound yourself today

Then show me one single place that says spirit of man goes to hell for punishment since it can be affected by sin ??

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Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 7:51am On Jun 06, 2020
Peacefullove:


Who make othniel a saviour ?

Is othniel your savior?
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 7:56am On Jun 06, 2020
freshboi88:


Is othniel your savior?
Answer my question : Who make othniel a Savior if there is one savior ? Who make Jesus a savior too ?

Nobody make Yahweh a Savior unlike the above.

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Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 7:58am On Jun 06, 2020
Peacefullove:

Answer my question : Who make othniel a Savior if there is one savior ? Who make Jesus a savior too ?

Nobody make Yahweh a Savior unlike the above.

I will answer who made him a saviour if u tell me if he is your savior

Is othniel your saviour that's the question I asked o. Is it not too early to be foolish?

Is Othniel your saviour?
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 7:59am On Jun 06, 2020
freshboi88:


Is othniel your saviour that's the question I asked o. Is it not too early to be foolish?

Is Othniel your saviour?

You said there is only one savior , Is God contradicting by making Othniel a savior ?

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Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 8:15am On Jun 06, 2020
Peacefullove:


You said there is only one savior , Is God contradicting by making Othniel a savior ?

You said othniel is a savior, now I am asking u. Is othniel your savior?

Yes or No?

Dnt be scared to answer or this is a case of bush meat catching the hunter
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 11:44am On Jun 06, 2020
freshboi88:


You said othniel is a savior, now I am asking u. Is othniel your savior?

Yes or No?

Dnt be scared to answer or this is a case of bush meat catching the hunter
You know what, you dont know warris going on.

God told the Israelites There is no Savior except me, But he raised Othniel as Their saviour , How many saviours do the isrealites have ?

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Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 12:26pm On Jun 06, 2020
Peacefullove:

You know what, you dont know warris going on.

God told the Israelites There is no Savior except me, But he raised Othniel as Their saviour , How many saviours do the isrealites have ?

Hahahaha....u r not smart!

I asked u a question, is othniel your savior?......

Ansa that question first Baba....I dnt like going round in circles
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 1:56pm On Jun 06, 2020
freshboi88:


Hahahaha....u r not smart!

I asked u a question, is othniel your savior?......

Ansa that question first Baba....I dnt like going round in circles
Othniel case will solve this .
How many saviours do the Israelites have ??

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Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 2:17pm On Jun 06, 2020
Peacefullove:

Othniel case will solve this .
How many saviours do the Israelites have ??

Why are we talking bout the isrealites....is othniel your Savior?
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 2:43pm On Jun 06, 2020
freshboi88:


Why are we talking bout the isrealites ....is othniel your Savior?

Because the statement No saviour beside me was first directed at the Israelites, Yet God raise a saviour for them, so how many saviours ?

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Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 2:53pm On Jun 06, 2020
Peacefullove:


Because the statement No saviour beside me was first directed at the Israelites, Yet God raise a saviour for them, so how many saviours ?

Is othniel your savior?
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 3:09pm On Jun 06, 2020
freshboi88:


Is othniel your savior?

Since you admit othniel being a Savior does not make the Israelites to whom the text of Isaiah 43:11 was first directed have two saviours , Having Jesus as saviour also does not contradict that Isaiah 43:11. Deal with it.

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Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 5:36pm On Jun 06, 2020
Peacefullove:


Since you admit othniel being a Savior does not make the Israelites to whom the text of Isaiah 43:11 was first directed have two saviours , Having Jesus as saviour also does not contradict that Isaiah 43:11. Deal with it.

Since you fail to agree that othniel is your savior then he is no savior at all
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Hairyrapunzel: 8:55pm On Jun 06, 2020
Peacefullove:


Since you admit othniel being a Savior does not make the Israelites to whom the text of Isaiah 43:11 was first directed have two saviours , Having Jesus as saviour also does not contradict that Isaiah 43:11. Deal with it.

You can’t even explain Isaiah 43:11 the verse didn’t say Israelites had two saviors abi you saw the second one in encyclopedias as usual?
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Hairyrapunzel: 8:57pm On Jun 06, 2020
Peacefullove:


Since you admit othniel being a Savior does not make the Israelites to whom the text of Isaiah 43:11 was first directed have two saviours , Having Jesus as saviour also does not contradict that Isaiah 43:11. Deal with it.

Shame didn’t allow you say othniel is your savior. Lol. Smh
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 7:45am On Jun 07, 2020
freshboi88:


Since you fail to agree that othniel is your savior then he is no savior at all
You can deal with the fact that Israelites have no two saviours yet Othniel is a savior , Same with Jesus .

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Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 9:50am On Jun 07, 2020
Firstly, just as Achorlade said, you're lost in your own discussions because there's no correlation BTW the post and your reply.

Which means you're just jumping around like monkey.

Janosky:
Don't you know that Jehovah made a covenant with David ? Luke 1:31-33. 2 Samuel 7:12-16.
That is the reason king Solomon was ALLOWED to remain on Jehovah's throne.

Did God accept/happy with what Solomon did or not, despite the fact God had convenat with David?

No wonder you couldn't quote vs 9-10

"but my lovingkindness shall not depart from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before thee."
Compare Exodus 33:19.

How does this address the fact that God rebuked what Solomon did?

Does Jehovah have any covenant with triune pagan deity devotees stubbornly clinging to their DELUSION ? grin

So which convenat did God have with the pagan Russell and his team?

Triune pagan deity devotees shouting upandan with excuses to DISOBEY Jesus Christ injunction @ Matthew 4:10, given by his Father (Deut 6:13. John 15:15).Janosky dey there dey DECEIVE yourself grin

Just attacking a straw man argument!

Who give you the absolute POWER to make decisions for Jehovah God?

Ode.....
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 9:56am On Jun 07, 2020
Peacefullove:
You lied. Unless you mean Jesus is the God of the Father.

Jesus is our God!

Even my Boss and parents, I also respect. You no get sense

So on what ground did you respect Jesus because both of you are God?

" 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" john 20:17

Let us slot it in and see how it sounds

OUR GOD is also OUR FATHER and Jesus FATHER , Who Is Jesus Father ?

Jesus is also our Father

Revelation 7:9 says No, it separated our God from the Lamb.

And they were shouting with a great roar, “Salvation comes from our God who sits on the throne and from the Lamb!”

The Lamb is not OUR GOD . Emusan u can faint now

Rev also says people will worship the Lamb and the Lamb is also on the same Throne, deluded peacefullove you can die now!

Where is Silas called Silvanus?

I and Jesus have only one GOD.

Where was Jesus called Micheal is my question?

Hypocrite!
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 10:05am On Jun 07, 2020
This my post you failed to address and you're still beating about the bush.

Now see the way she boycotted my point and question!

Here again

So Russell only shows Christ RESPECT because he LACKS THE PROPER KNOWLEDGE of Proskuneo.
So now that Proskuneo isn't worshipped, are we to respect Christ?

Your lying mouth will continue to rope you in.
"SOME DON'T KNOW"

Who are these "SOME"?

And Wasn't that verse already in the scripture before Russell was born?

What is the essence of Russell being the very MOUTHPIECE of Jehovah and yet Jehovah allowed him to die in this wrong believe?

Like I said earlier, your lying mouth will continue to rope you in.

Peacefullove:


Rusell never claimed Jesus is his God, and Russell admit he is nowhere instructed to pray to Jesus. . Can a man say he is nowhere instructed to pray to his God ? Clearly u ain't okay grin

Now, this is another stumbling block for you.

If RUSSELL admitted that he was nowhere instructed to pray to Jesus and he went ahead to do so.

Definitely Russell is praying to two different persons.

Doesn't that mean he had another God apart from the true God?

Who inspired him to do so?

Then who should we pray to?

Isn't praying an act of worship to a deity?

You're really sick in the head!
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 11:11am On Jun 07, 2020
Peacefullove:

You can deal with the fact that Israelites have no two saviours yet Othniel is a savior , Same with Jesus .

Deluded being. In trying to prove me wrong and argue blindly. U call God a lair.

Is othniel your savior?....why have u failed to answer this question?

Ansa the question nah, is othniel your savior?....is he the savior of man?
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 11:13am On Jun 07, 2020
Hairyrapunzel:


Shame didn’t allow you say othniel is your savior. Lol. Smh

Dnt mind him, he knows if he says othniel is not his saviour den his arguement is dead. So even when he knows that othniel is not his saviour, he cannot admit it.

See say the guy just wan win argument, doesn't care about the truth
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by pablobellins(m): 12:15pm On Jun 07, 2020
Barristter07:



grin grin grin John will say without him nothing was made and will go and contradict himself at Revelation 3:14 ?

Its your translators that use without that are misguided.




John 1:3 NWT

" All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. "

Apart from clearly exclude Jesus , cos he was directly created by his Father .

E.g " Apart from this fan , nothing exist in this room that my husband bought "

Apart from excluded him from the process described . He was directly created by the Father the beginning of his creation . Rev 3:14
Good morning sir; am the one liking your replies. Pls whats your stand on trinity. And i will mention u on a thread i just created; i look forward to your contribution.
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by RealEzee(m): 3:39pm On Jun 07, 2020
freshboi88:


U must be deluded. The spirit is separate from the body. When Jesus died, the bible made us understand that his spirit went to preach to spirits in prison. It means while the body was in the grave, his spirit was active...even to the extent of preaching........

If Jesus's spirit is a force how come he was able to teach even when his body was lying in the grave.

See how the bible exposes u

true talk
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 7:26pm On Jun 07, 2020
Rozz:
freshboi88 leave my husbands alone already,just admit it.One thing I like about JW is that they are very decent and strongly principled and they are among the most learned in Christianity as a whole.A Muslim friend told me that its only JW that is practising true Christianity and I had to school him anyways,its because of this Trinity issues that the muslims believes so about JW.

Let them form one big and happy group that's not divided by geographical location, racism and politics!

Jesus is the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} PEACE supposed to reign amongst his true followers! Micah 4:1-3

God bless you!

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