Maximus69:


Let them form one big and happy group that's not divided by geographical location, racism and politics!

Jesus is the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} PEACE supposed to reign amongst his true followers! Micah 4:1-3

God bless you!

freshboi88:


Deluded being. In trying to prove me wrong and argue blindly. U call God a lair.

Is othniel your savior?....why have u failed to answer this question?

Ansa the question nah, is othniel your savior?....is he the savior of man?

Emusan:
This my post you failed to address and you're still beating about the bush.

Now see the way she boycotted my point and question!

Here again

So Russell only shows Christ RESPECT because he LACKS THE PROPER KNOWLEDGE of Proskuneo.
So now that Proskuneo isn't worshipped, are we to respect Christ?

Your lying mouth will continue to rope you in.
"SOME DON'T KNOW"

Who are these "SOME"?

And Wasn't that verse already in the scripture before Russell was born?

What is the essence of Russell being the very MOUTHPIECE of Jehovah and yet Jehovah allowed him to die in this wrong believe?

Like I said earlier, your lying mouth will continue to rope you in.

Now, this is another stumbling block for you.

If RUSSELL admitted that he was nowhere instructed to pray to Jesus and he went ahead to do so.

Definitely Russell is praying to two different persons.

Doesn't that mean he had another God apart from the true God?


Who inspired him to do so?

Then who should we pray to?

Isn't praying an act of worship to a deity?

You're really sick in the head!

Emusan:


Jesus is our God!
So on what ground did you respect Jesus because both of you are God?
Jesus is also our Father

Rev also says people will worship the Lamb and the Lamb is also on the same Throne, deluded peacefullove you can die now!

Where was Jesus called Micheal is my question?

Hypocrite!

Peacefullove:

So no single Bible verse to support the bold ? You are sick.

Peacefullove:


U mumu o, Is God a liar when he make othniel Israelites Saviour ?

freshboi88:


God accepted the sacrifice of animals for temporary forgiveness of sin but it was not enough to deliver his people. Until Jesus shared his own blood.

God used different people to save man from bondage including your othniel. It was not enough to save man. So Jesus became the perfect savior of man.

Jesus is the only saviour of man, there's not two. Stop fooling urself.

Is othniel the savior man?

Peacefullove:


Jesus is one of those he used as Savior. This time bondage of sin and death.


Good day.

Peacefullove:
Which wrong belief , Did he tell you Jesus is his God?

You are the sick one for assuming what he didnt do . Present where he said Jesus is his God ?? Brain dead human

Peacefullove:


So no single Bible verse to support the bold ? You are sick.

Emusan:


This is my post again

Jesus is our God!
So on what ground did you respect Jesus because both of you are God?

Jesus is also our Father

Rev also says people will worship the Lamb and the Lamb is also on the same Throne, deluded peacefullove you can die now!

Where was Jesus called Micheal is my question?

Hypocrite!

Emusan:


Then why praying and worshipping another person apart from God?



Empty skull hypocrite!

What does it mean to pray and worship another being apart from God?

If Russell admitted that he was nowhere instructed to pray to Jesus and he went ahead to do so, what does that make him?

Peacefullove:


You are Still assuming right ? When you get where he said Jesus is HIS GOD . quote me

Peacefullove:
Bible verse ?

" For one is your Father, the heavenly one " - Matthew 23 vs 9

I am going to my Father and Your Father - John 20:17 .


Jesus is now the Father . Brainwashed Peacefullove
Jesus have no sons , who is his son abeg ?

Let me know Jesus sons , or show me where anyone is called Jesus Sons . You are too dull

Emusan:


John 1:1 "...and the word was God"

Heb 1:6 "Thy throne Oh God"

You're Jesus son because He created you!

Yes and Everlasting Father

Your brain is paining you!

Emusan:


These are the questions again

Then why praying and worshipping another person apart from God?

Empty skull hypocrite!

What does it mean to pray and worship another being apart from God?

If Russell admitted that he was nowhere instructed to pray to Jesus and he went ahead to do so, what does that make him?

Emusan:


Jesus is our God!



So on what ground did you respect Jesus because both of you are God?



Jesus is also our Father



Rev also says people will worship the Lamb and the Lamb is also on the same Throne, deluded peacefullove you can die now!



Where was Jesus called Micheal is my question?

Hypocrite!

Emusan:


John 1:1 "...and the word was God"

Heb 1:6 "Thy throne Oh God"



You're Jesus son because He created you!

Yes and Everlasting Father

Your brain is paining you!

Luke 9:30-35 says your John 1:1 FRAUD is dead and buried

The Catholics who scrubbed your brain with Trinity GIBBERISH already knows your Hebrews 1:6 is a FRAUD.

The Jews also know Emusan's Hebrews 1:6 is a FRAUD. The Masoretic Text confirm it.
Your Hebrews 1:6 FRAUD is a misquote of Psalm 45:6. Catholic Jerusalem Bible confirm it.
Emusan brain in sifia pains....
" .... A Son has been given to us.. he will be called.....
Before Isaiah's 9:6 prophecy,the Son no get that title .
It has ZERO connection to your fictitious claims.
The Jews know your Everlasting Father claim is FRAUDULENT.
Na which Jew talk say Jesus Na their Father?
Since Genesis 1:27, we already know our Father and the Father of Jesus.
WAYO FRAUD Man your brain in sifia pains.

Peacefullove:


Bible verse ?




" For one is your Father, the heavenly one " - Matthew 23 vs 9

I am going to my Father and Your Father - John 20:17 .


Jesus is now the Father . deluded Emusan
Jesus have no sons , who is his son abeg ?

Let me know Jesus sons , or show me where anyone is called Jesus Sons . You are too dull

achorladey:



Something interesting come up which is related to your post. Follow this conversation.

Non JW: Who is your Shepherd?

JW: Psalms 23 stated that Jehovah is my Shepherd, not JESUS. Of course, the term was still applied to Jesus in John 10:11 as I gave above

One will be forced to look at John 10:11.......NWT I am the fine shepherd, the fine shepherd surrenders his life in behalf of the sheep.

After looking at the above, one will ask is JESUS OUR SHEPHERD?

Same as saying is JESUS OUR GOD? which MUMU DETECTOR as be asking all this while.

Perhaps we should ask him is JESUS OUR SHEPHERD? Let us see is RESPONSE

Emusan:
Firstly, just as Achorlade said, you're lost in your own discussions because there's no correlation BTW the post and your reply.

Which means you're just jumping around like monkey.



Did God accept/happy with what Solomon did or not, despite the fact God had convenat with David?

No wonder you couldn't quote vs 9-10



How does this address the fact that God rebuked what Solomon did?



So which convenat did God have with the pagan Russell and his team?



Just attacking a straw man argument!

Who give you the absolute POWER to make decisions for Jehovah God?

Ode.....

Perfectbeing:
The word "proskuneo" means "to kiss the hand, bow down before, show obeisance, to worship." Since the Jehovah's Witnesses deny that Jesus is God, they maintain that He is not to be worshipped. So, how does the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society translate the word "proskuneo" in their Greek New Testament in reference to Jesus and other objects of adoration? The NWT never translates the word into "worship" when it references Jesus. However, it render the word as "worship" regarding the devil, the dragon, the beast, the image, demons, idols, and an angel. Of course, they correctly translate it as "worship" when it deals with God.
Is the New World Translation biased against worshipping Jesus? It would surely seem so and especially since the NASB, NIV, KJV, NKJV, etc., all translate the word as "worship" in reference to Jesus.
What is curious is to note that the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society used to teach that worshipping Jesus was acceptable:

"The fact that our Lord received worship is claimed by some to be an evidence that while on earth he was God the Father disguised in a body of flesh and not really a man. Was he really worshiped, or is the translation faulty? Yes we believe our Lord Jesus while on earth was really worshiped, and properly so. While he was not the God, Jehovah, he was a God. The word ‘God’ signifies a ‘mighty one,’ and our Lord was indeed a mighty one. So it is stated in the first two verses of the gospel of John. It was proper for our Lord to receive worship in view of his having been the only begotten of the Father. . ." (The Watchtower, July 15, 1898, p. 216.)


It seems that as the Watchtower theology changed, they needed a Bible consistent with those changes, hence, the New World Translation.

The word "proskuneo" occurs 55 times in the Watchtower Kingdom Interlinear. Of those 55, 15 are in reference to Jesus with 40 used of others, 27% of the usage is of Jesus, and not a single reference is translated as "worship" even though in reference to the devil, demons, idols, etc., they do translate it as worship. If this doesn't demonstrate their bias, then what does?

Whenever it is in reference to Jesus, they absolutely will not let it be translated as worship. Why? Because they erringly deny that Jesus is God in flesh and their Bible reflects their bias. This is not how proper theology is done.
The Watchtower Organization has changed the Bible to suit its needs.

Peacefullove:

Do you know Jesus is our Brother ?

Perfectbeing:
Jesus is my Lord and my God.

Janosky:

John 7:16. John 15:15. 1 Cor 3:23, Psalms 23:1. Jehovah the Shepherd of Jesus Christ is our Shepherd.

Perfectbeing:
The word "proskuneo" means "to kiss the hand, bow down before, show obeisance, to worship." Since the Jehovah's Witnesses deny that Jesus is God, they maintain that He is not to be worshipped. So, how does the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society translate the word "proskuneo" in their Greek New Testament in reference to Jesus and other objects of adoration? The NWT never translates the word into "worship" when it references Jesus. However, it render the word as "worship" regarding the devil, the dragon, the beast, the image, demons, idols, and an angel. Of course, they correctly translate it as "worship" when it deals with God.
Is the New World Translation biased against worshipping Jesus? It would surely seem so and especially since the NASB, NIV, KJV, NKJV, etc., all translate the word as "worship" in reference to Jesus.
What is curious is to note that the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society used to teach that worshipping Jesus was acceptable:

"The fact that our Lord received worship is claimed by some to be an evidence that while on earth he was God the Father disguised in a body of flesh and not really a man. Was he really worshiped, or is the translation faulty? Yes we believe our Lord Jesus while on earth was really worshiped, and properly so. While he was not the God, Jehovah, he was a God. The word ‘God’ signifies a ‘mighty one,’ and our Lord was indeed a mighty one. So it is stated in the first two verses of the gospel of John. It was proper for our Lord to receive worship in view of his having been the only begotten of the Father. . ." (The Watchtower, July 15, 1898, p. 216.)


It seems that as the Watchtower theology changed, they needed a Bible consistent with those changes, hence, the New World Translation.

The word "proskuneo" occurs 55 times in the Watchtower Kingdom Interlinear. Of those 55, 15 are in reference to Jesus with 40 used of others, 27% of the usage is of Jesus, and not a single reference is translated as "worship" even though in reference to the devil, demons, idols, etc., they do translate it as worship. If this doesn't demonstrate their bias, then what does?

Whenever it is in reference to Jesus, they absolutely will not let it be translated as worship. Why? Because they erringly deny that Jesus is God in flesh and their Bible reflects their bias. This is not how proper theology is done.
The Watchtower Organization has changed the Bible to suit its needs.

Peacefullove:


Liar, King of Lies

Nope, it didnt say he is OUR GOD .

Is your eyes so dull you can't see How Revelation 7:10 qualifies the Father as " OUR GOD " ??

Provide where Jesus is qualified as such.

Mumu ooooo , So u can't even find anywhere anyone is called Jesus sons. Mr Man Jesus is not the Creator , he is just an agent. Do you know I and Jesus are Brothers ?

Jesus have no sons , we are Brothers

Peacefullove:
Padi enough of assumptions and imaginations , You can't Provide where The man claimed Jesus is his God ?

Perfectbeing:
The word "proskuneo" means "to kiss the hand, bow down before, show obeisance, to worship." Since the Jehovah's Witnesses deny that Jesus is God, they maintain that He is not to be worshipped. So, how does the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society translate the word "proskuneo" in their Greek New Testament in reference to Jesus and other objects of adoration? The NWT never translates the word into "worship" when it references Jesus. However, it render the word as "worship" regarding the devil, the dragon, the beast, the image, demons, idols, and an angel. Of course, they correctly translate it as "worship" when it deals with God.
Is the New World Translation biased against worshipping Jesus? It would surely seem so and especially since the NASB, NIV, KJV, NKJV, etc., all translate the word as "worship" in reference to Jesus.
What is curious is to note that the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society used to teach that worshipping Jesus was acceptable:

"The fact that our Lord received worship is claimed by some to be an evidence that while on earth he was God the Father disguised in a body of flesh and not really a man. Was he really worshiped, or is the translation faulty? Yes we believe our Lord Jesus while on earth was really worshiped, and properly so. While he was not the God, Jehovah, he was a God. The word ‘God’ signifies a ‘mighty one,’ and our Lord was indeed a mighty one. So it is stated in the first two verses of the gospel of John. It was proper for our Lord to receive worship in view of his having been the only begotten of the Father. . ." (The Watchtower, July 15, 1898, p. 216.)


It seems that as the Watchtower theology changed, they needed a Bible consistent with those changes, hence, the New World Translation.

The word "proskuneo" occurs 55 times in the Watchtower Kingdom Interlinear. Of those 55, 15 are in reference to Jesus with 40 used of others, 27% of the usage is of Jesus, and not a single reference is translated as "worship" even though in reference to the devil, demons, idols, etc., they do translate it as worship. If this doesn't demonstrate their bias, then what does?

[b]Whenever it is in reference to Jesus, they absolutely will not let it be translated as worship. Why? Because they erringly deny that Jesus is God in flesh and their Bible reflects their bias. [/b]This is not how proper theology is done.
The Watchtower Organization has changed the Bible to suit its needs.

Matt 4:10 Jesus Christ himself says his Father and God did NOT command anybody to worship Jesus.

(All of Una Na Pharisees pretending to love Jesus. Jesus Christ says The WORSHIP IS STRICTLY FOR JEHOVAH ALONE. Matt 4:10, Jesus himself EXPOSED UNA WAYO. )

Luke 9:30-35 , Yahweh says YOUR Jesus is God FRAUD is dead and buried


Matthew 4:10. (Deuteronomy 6:13).

.” 10 Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah* your God you must worship,+ and it is to him alone you must render sacred service."


John 7:16...
"What I teach is not mine..."

Perfectbeing and Emusan & all of Una pretending to love Jesus Christ so much,
Yet you come to Nairaland with IDIOTIC EXCUSES FOR YOUR DISOBEDIENCE of Matthew 4:10 , the command wey Jehovah give His Son, Jesus Christ to teach Una....

Una WUCKED !!!

Perfectbeing:



note the Watchtower :

"The fact that our Lord received worship is claimed by some to be an evidence that while on earth he was God the Father disguised in a body of flesh and not really a man. Was he really worshiped, or is the translation faulty? Yes we believe our Lord Jesus while on earth was really worshiped, and properly so. While he was not the God, Jehovah, he was a God. The word ‘God’ signifies a ‘mighty one,’ and our Lord was indeed a mighty one. So it is stated in the first two verses of the gospel of John. It was proper for our Lord to receive worship in view of his having been the only begotten of the Father. . ." (The Watchtower, July 15, 1898, p. 216.)

Emusan:


Idiotic brainwashed JWs

Who is assuming and imagine things here?

Did Russell not worship and pray to Jesus?

These are the questions again

Then why praying and worshipping another person apart from God?

Empty skull hypocrite!

What does it mean to pray and worship another being apart from God?

If Russell admitted that he was nowhere instructed to pray to Jesus and he went ahead to do so, what does that make him?

achorladey:


It's funny they will DENY they worship JESUS. But the same ORGANIZATION they are defending repeated what they were indeed doing again in 2020 after over 100 plus years.


Their LOVE FOR JESUS PASS THAT OF JEHOVAH


Beginning in 1919, however, they came to see that Jehovah and their relationship with him should be the focus of their worship.

Ask what was the focus of THEIR WORSHIP before 1919



Look the images below as it appears in the link below

https://www.jw.org/wes-x-pgw/library/magazine/watchtower-study-april-2020/I-Call-Wuna-My-Friends/

You can equally check the English on the website