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I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by haekymbahd(m): 11:34am On Jul 07, 2020 |
Matthew 7 21 Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name and driven out demons in Your name and done many mighty works in Your name? 23 And then I will say to them openly (publicly), I never knew you; depart from Me, you who act wickedly [disregarding My commands].(C) 24 So everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts upon them [obeying them] will be like a [p]sensible (prudent, practical, wise) man who built his house upon the rock. Can someone explain what Jesus meant here? And what does he meant by will of God? I'm confused. |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by FlourishE30: 11:56am On Jul 07, 2020 |
What Jesus meant is this; that we should do His will if we claimed to love Him, because you can't love someone and not do what will make the person happy,if you truly love someone you will do everything possible not to offend the person, same thing apply here,we don't love God but we claim we do while His simple commandments we can't keep, Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments, and what are these commandments? that we should love God with all our hearts,mind,soul and with all our strength,and the second is like it too, love your neighbor as your self,on these two hangs/lies or the prophets or the rest commandments.I will be back let me wash my hair. |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by Righteousness89(m): 12:01pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
The will of God is that All will be Saved! That's the sole Reason JESUS Came. Luke 19:10 No Matter what Title you answer, or what you claim to do. If you are not Saved through JESUS Christ in Truth and in Spirit, it's in vain.. |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by Petrall: 12:08pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
haekymbahd: Its talking about hypocrisy. Those who dont love him from the heart . They claim part of christ but their works and character is evil. Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by Nobody: 12:50pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
haekymbahd: First of all i want you to know that only one group throughout the earth knows the meaning of the phrase "God's will" If you've not met them,you,ll always entertain false religious ideas that will continue to confuse you the more. So are you really interested in knowing the will of God? ![]() |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by VirginFinder: 1:05pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
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Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by Nobody: 1:08pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
If you're interested in knowing the answer to your question, just signify by quoting me! ![]() Maximus69: |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by achorladey: 1:09pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
haekymbahd: Achorladey: Based on the topic of the thread copied below........ haekymbahd: I'm Confused Achorladey: You don't have to be confused. haekymbahd: Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father? Achorladey: Answer from the mouth of Jesus Christ himself........ Matthew 12: For whoever does the WILL OF MY FATHER in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.” What is the will of the FATHER? From Jesus himself again........ John 6: 40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.” Must you accept JESUS CHRIST as Lord to do will of the father? Philippians 2: 9-11 God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. The equation is simple from here on. |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by Nobody: 1:13pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
VirginFinder:DUDE STOP FORMING GRAMMARNAZI |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by achorladey: 1:20pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69: Maximus69: First of all i want you to know that only one group throughout the earth knows the meaning of the phrase "God's will" Achorladey: perhaps there is ONLY ONE GROUP reading the Bible too ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I only hope this your God's will has nothing to do with Jesus Christ ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by FlourishE30: 1:21pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Let's continue, now if we love God we will not worship idolatry, what do I mean here, most of have different idols we worship, examples making your work, business, trade,farm, your wife, husband, children and even our bodies, looking good as the most important thing in our lives, when anything is first in our lives then that thing as taking the place of God, and that is idolatry,God is a jealous God and won't share His glory with anything He created,we must do the work of God before our own, what did Jesus said,He said His meat is to do the work of the Father,we must take God's work serious as if our lives depends on it, of course it does because without Him we are nothing,we must preach the gospel,we must live according to God standard in truth and in spirit,not pleasing men or drawing attention to ourselves,but do that which God want of us,we must serve and worship Him all the time,we must live a life of righteousness, love Him more than we love ourselves;stop pretencious lifestyle,we must make sure the kind of life we live in the public is same we live in our privacy,then love our neighbors as ourselves,help when we can and when necessary, pray for our brothers in Christ,admonish each other, correct each other in love, stop living the life of this world,we must be blind to things the world like and deaf to the music, words and saying of this world:we must be separated from things that the children of this world glory in, that is love.God has a standard and we must live according to his standard to be His own, must must not talk, dress,sing,think,act and love what gives the children of this world joy.We must be different and know God by reading and meditating on His word,it must not leaves our mouth, and again we must ask for His spirit of wisdom and knowledge to understand His words because the word of God is spirit and life,we can't understand it with our academical knowledge or understanding.�� |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by PastorAIO: 1:21pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
achorladey:For this is the will of the father ..... Is this the full summary of the will of god? What about his other injunctions? What about the stoning of gays? Or eating meat mixed with milk? |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by Nobody: 1:27pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
haekymbahd: Do you really want to know what Jesus meant by the will of God? ![]() |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by achorladey: 1:28pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
PastorAIO: PastorAIO: Is this the full summary of the will of god? Achorladey: My response is scripted based on the title of the thread. Concerning full summary of the will of god, You might expansiate on what looking on the Son means PastorAIO: What about his other injunctions? What about the stoning of gays? Or eating meat mixed with milk? Achorladey: Looks on the Son |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by Nobody: 1:32pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
He's one of those disguised ATHEISTS,with another dimension to ridicule religionists and their beliefs! ![]() ![]() ![]() Maximus69: 1 Like |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by Nobody: 1:36pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Hmmmmmmmm, no wonder he kept quiet all these while. He just want to see them argue with one another. Ekú àgbà! ![]() TATIME: |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by Nobody: 2:04pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
I can see that the OP just want to ridicule religionists like you, so i'll keep the answer until someone reasonable ask for it! ![]() achorladey: |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by VirginFinder: 2:12pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
NNU0000: That guy is intentionally doing the wrong thing. He is deliberately misleading people on the importance of using capital and small letters at the right place and at the right time. |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by achorladey: 2:50pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69: Are you are interested in RIDICULING who? Jesus Christ the god of Christendom I guess? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Oga I didn't seek any answer from you about the question the Op put up there. |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by haekymbahd(m): 2:58pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69:Yes I truly want to know the will of God. I am not an atheist. |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by Nobody: 3:53pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
haekymbahd:OK let's take it one by one! First of all note that the God who created the earth stipulate what he wants man to achieve on this planet from the beginning! Genesis 1:26-28 We were created to ©Multiply~ More couples in every corner of the planet. ©Subdue~ Make the earth a Paradise with our God's given abilities. ©Rule~ Control all other creatures and make the best use of them during our works. But Adam and Eve rebelled against God Almighty so he cursed the ground on their account and everything turned around. Genesis 3:1-6 We can't live on no more, we must work hard to grow food, the food we grow won't benefit our bodies, we will therefore grow old, get sick and die! Genesis 3:17-19 So that's how we lost God's arrangement for our planet! Jesus came to redeem us back to God, he will now replace Adam our rebellious father and through him we can now regain all that we have lost. ©Satan (deceiver) will be removed! Romans 16:20; Revelations 20:1-3 ©Death will be no more! Isaiah 25:8; Revelations 21:3-5 © Sickness will be no more! Isaiah 33:24, 35:5-6; Revelations 21:3-5 ©Oldage will be no more! Job 33:25 ©Dead will be resurrected! John 5:28-29; Act 24:15 ©There will be no more hunger! Psalms 72:16, 67:6 ©Wickedness will be no more! Psalms 37:9-11; Proverbs 2:21-22 ©There will be no more wars! Psalms 46:8-9; Isaiah 2:4 There are the promises God made for all those who will be obedient amongst Adam's descendants! Titus 1:2 But before all these blessings comes, there must be a global preaching and teaching program like a campaign to warn all those whose ways of life is one way or the other making life unbearable for others! Revelations 11:18 So God's will is for everyone to have the accurate knowledge of all these promises and to start preparing ourselves to conform to the lifestyle that will be acceptable when God's kingdom come! Ephesians 4:24; Matthew 6:10 False religions under Satan the Devil can't know any of these things so they're teaching contradicting things and telling people they will all go to heaven, thereby most people don't see the need to plan for how to live on earth in harmony with God's will! That's why Jesus said all those practicing false religions but calling upon his name will be denied access into God's new earth because they don't even know how to live there, which is the real plan of God from the beginning "God's Will"! Matthew 7:21-23 May God bless you! ![]() |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by Wakeupchristian: 4:34pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
haekymbahd: First of all you need to understand, that Jesus the Christ is inseparable from the Word of God. He is the incarnate of the living Word. To accept Him is not only by casual lip cinfession. To accept Him means to absorb His teachings, which is the Word of God, to be convinced that it is the truth and to be determined to live in accordance with it. On the other hand the Will of God is His Word. And if Christ is the Word Himself, accepting Him is accepting God's Word. This invariably means that to accept Christ is to do the Will of God provided the individual involved strives to live according to the Word. For more understanding, I would refer you to my post on "Falsified Teachings of Christ-Born Again" Part 1 and 2. I suppose it will be of great help to you. |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by Kobojunkie: 4:54pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
haekymbahd:Accepting Jesus Christ is accepting to obey the New Covenant this is Jesus Christ(including about 46 commandments), submitting your entirety(all that you are, know, have, desire) to Him so that the Will of God be done through the Life that Jesus Christ gives you.
haekymbahd:The Will of God is complete submisison and obedience of God's commandments and led. No one can become a follower of Jesus Christ simply by wishing for it. Jesus required that those who choose to follow Him do the work that He commands they first do. 1. Be prepared to abandon parents, brother, sister, children, spouse, in-laws, e.t.c. 2. Abandon all that you know/believe, have, and all that you are 3. Bear your own burden (not someone else's cross- not even your family's or children's)
4. Become a child again in your thinking and your actions 5. Be prepared to lose life(reputation, career, control, property, etc.) [/quote]
6. Desire above all to find and enter the Kingdom of God and also walk the path of righteousness, with God as your guide every step 7. Let go of all control you have over your life and circumstances, allowing God to take care of your every need
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Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by haekymbahd(m): 8:00pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69:Thanks for your reply bro but I think the God's will according to that verse is not what God wants for us but what God wants man to do to attain his kingdom I stand to be corrected. |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by haekymbahd(m): 8:06pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Wakeupchristian:Thanks for your reply bro but is it possible to accept Christ and cast out demons, prophecy, and perform miracles in his name genuinely and still not do God's will I thought that was what Jesus was trying to say in that verse I stand to be corrected. |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by Nobody: 8:10pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
haekymbahd: YES! You got it correctly but you need to know that there is something that brought us to this condition, his kingdom began when he made man in his own image and made him the ruler of all other creatures on earth. So he wants sanity to return to the earth and for his creations to bring him glory, what is happening on earth today brings him no glory. That's why the Psalmist said "he (God) leads me in the path of righteosness for the sake of his name" {Psalms 23:3} His will is for us to return to Paradise as he planned it from the beginning, that's what Jesus came teaching us how to live with the hope of being in Paradise again! Matthew 5:5 compare to Psalms 37:29
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Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by haekymbahd(m): 8:17pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Righteousness89: I thought what Jesus was talking about in that verse was what man have to do for God to attain his kingdom not what he wants to do for man. After accepting Jesus as Lord and savior do you mean it has encompassed the Gods will too. Can one accept Jesus as lord and saviour genuinely cast out demons, prophecy in his name and perform miracles and still not do the will of God? |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by haekymbahd(m): 8:25pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69:Sir what should one do to attain kingdom of God. |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by haekymbahd(m): 9:15pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Petrall:sir but can one love Jesus with hypocrisy and still cast demon out, prophecy in his name and perform miracles... Or Jesus meant people collecting power from other source and using it in his name. |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by Nobody: 9:19pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
haekymbahd:You must acquire wisdom that only God can give {Proverbs 23:23; Matthew 13:46} it's not easy to get yet it cost nothing but humility {Proverbs 2:1-5; Matthew 10:8} Jesus has dispatched his followers to come and meet you in your home! Matthew 10:13-15; Romans 13:13-15 All what you need is a copy of the Bible and study it with Jesus' messengers, you will know what you should do to become a prospective subject of God's Kingdom! ![]() This has little or nothing to do with the laws God gave the Israelites, it's about living with a view to be part of those who will be on a Paradise earth! ![]() |
Re: I'm Confused Is Accepting Jesus As Lord Same As Doing The Will Of The Father by haekymbahd(m): 10:01pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69:wow!!! |
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