hmm

I wonder when last bill gate paid his tithe.

Keep making these pastor rich, they will laugh inside their private jet.

The verse that tells you what to do with your tithe that your pastor will not tell you...

MightySparrow:
Wrong. there is no church that their members don't contribute money call it any name. All you see is hypocricy on Nairaland. Tithe as far as know about my own church is paid by my pastor who himself doesn't run the church account or draw money from it but lives on gifts from members from which he pays his own to pay church workers.

he gave an analogy!

he is 100% correct

No need to read your long epistle
U can never ever be successful without paying tithe! What are yoy thinking? You want to Rob God? U no dey fear??!
If not for tithe, i would have lost in MMM like others, but for my tithe, I cashed out big time, Own 3 houses in Banana island now, proceeds from MMM cause of tithe.
Abeg use 1 eye peep my signature

I will follow this verse.

Jesus dealt with tithe forever.... He destroyed all principalities and powers including the Devourer of Malachi 3:10.... The Devourer was defeated by Jesus by his death on the cross.... If you don't believe this you are a FOOL....
The tithing message is motivated by greed and fear... Greed by the preachers and fear on the part of the tither....
But a true Christian is truly free....and there's no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit (Rom 8:1).
Don't let "Jet-flying" pastors and the bishops condemn you.

delkuf:
If you can't obey God with your tithe, that means you will find it difficult to fully obey God. those people that are shouting I will give my tithe to the poor and how faithful are they with it. they are not faithful with it. give God ten percent that is not too much to ask now

why are you not burning lamb as sacrifice to God again?

tithe issue has been overblown out of proportion....as a Christain, i will never condenm paying tithe bcause it is scriptural (Malachi 3:8-11)but there are some church leaders that has taken advantage of offering and tithe of the church...

the signatory church account is the senior pastor and the accountant of the church. and if the church Senior Pastor is greedy, he can just be signing cheques for personal use...

there are some churches that is established by partnership with some rich men in the society. what they do is ; the pastor will use his gift of spirit to draw crowd while the rich people will fund the church....so when the tithe and offering start coming there is a particular portion for the donor and particular portion for the pastor.....

not all churches are church of christ there are so many churches in the country that is just establish to make money.....truth is bitter...the moment the church is not making the money project, they will shut it down...

chijokz:
Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems the only person who benefits and prospers is the account owner in which all tithes and offerings are paid into. Hypothetically, let's say a church has 200 members that earn $50,000 per annum and all pay their tithes of 10% which leaves them with $45,000 while total tithes paid into the pastor's account is 200x5,000 = $1,000,000 per annum.
That's why pastors will defend and continue to preach the tithing doctrine indefinitely.

You asked for correction:

They don't pay tithes to pastor's account. They pay tithes to church accounts.

Some pastors are not even signatory to such accounts.

Pls o can i pay tithe from bet9ja winnings,i need answer asap.

Are those receiving tithes disabled?
Let them go on the highway and turn armed robbers instead of stealing in the name of Jesus

gospelpen:
Powerful principles of increase lesson from Avanzini

Can There Be Prosperity Without the Tithe?

God wants to build an end-time temple, a holy habitation not made with hands. To do this He must have an end-time army of special saints to accomplish His vision. This truth came to me by revelation after years of studying the Bible. It is totally based upon Scripture. God will give the responsibility of building His great end-time dwelling place to those who have proved themselves faithful in financial matters.

When King Josiah commissioned workers for the restoration of the temple, he gave the work to those craftsmen who had already proved themselves faithful in their financial transactions.

And let them deliver it into the hand of the doers of the work . . . to repair the breaches of the house, Unto carpenters, and builders, and masons, and to buy timber and hewn stone to repair the house.
Howbeit there was no reckoning made with them of the money that was delivered into their hand, because they dealt faithfully.
2 Kings 22:5-7

God did not choose these men for the labor because they had promised to be faithful. He chose them because they had already proved themselves faithful. When it came time for King Josiah to choose who would work in the great restoration of the temple, God told the king to select these men because they had an established record of dealing faithfully in their finances. God uses people who are faithful in their finances, and tithing is part of that faithfulness.

Many times people have said to me, "Brother John, when I get a large sum of money (such as an inheritance, sweepstakes, or windfall from some get-rich-quick scheme), I will become a faithful tither to the Lord."

That's not God's way! God requires that we first be faithful in the little matters, right in the midst of our current circumstances. Then He will grant us an abundance. It was true in the Old and New Testaments, and it's true today.

Read what the ruler said to his faithful servant in the Parable of the Talents.

His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
Matthew 25:23

Remember what Jesus said to His disciples about faithfulness.

He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.
Luke 16:10

If you want to be a part of the next big move of God, don't just get your finances in order temporarily. Keep them in order from now on, and be faithful.

Moreover it is required [not just desired] in stewards, that a man be found faithful.
1Corinthians 4:2

What Is an Offering?

By now you probably know that an offering is different from a tithe. The tithe is clearly 10 percent of what you have earned, an amount set by God. It is a non-negotiable obligation you owe Him.

An offering is a different matter. An offering is not a specified amount. It is totally discretionary on our part, an amount we give freely to God. The amount of our offering establishes the measure, or rate by which God will bless us and increase our substance.

...For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
Luke 6:38

An offering is anything you give over and above your tithe. You are not generous in the eyes of God when you tithe. Tithing is simply evidence of honesty and obedience.

It is paying God what you owe Him. However, when you hear the voice of God leading you to give beyond your tithe, that is an offering. It is a freewill love gift to your God.

You can give offerings to help finance your local church, a missionary, or any Christian outreach. Many ministries in the Kingdom of God survive solely on the freewill offerings of God's prosperous people. In many cases, offerings are God's way of meeting their needs.

Remember, your tithe only opens the windows of heaven. God begins to pour out His blessings when you give generous offerings. Your offerings determine the measure God will use to give back to you. Through your tithes and offerings, you will move into a dynamic new realm, working with God, ministering to the needs of a hurting and needy world.

And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.
Mark 16:20

Source: https://jerco.org/2020/07/19/can-there-be-prosperity-without-the-tithe/

Pls you are wrong to say that tithe only opens the window of heaven,that it is when a 'generous offering' will make God pour the blessings.Pls read Malachi 3:10 again. However emphasis should be on the gospel and salvation. The Macedonia church in 2corinthian 8 first gave themselves to God before grace was available to give to the church. God bless you.

delkuf:
I am not saying that you are secured financially if you pay your tithe. I am looking at it from the obedience point of view. if you find it difficult to obey God by giving God ten percent of your income, then you will find it difficult to fully obey God.

then obey the whole laws in totality! don't pick the tithe law alone and then judge n condemn those who don't obey it, when you yourself ignore others.

If pastors extended to living a Christ-like life the energy they put into tithes, we would definitely have a much saner society today. Tithing would have made much sense if the receivers allowed the money to circulate well.

For instance, Bishop Oyedepo will brag that his Winner's Chapel has never approached anyone for financial support. How do they finance their elephant projects then?

Well, that's why they will always emphasize on tithing even in the midst of a global pandemic.To add insult to injury, a church that is as rich as Winner's Chapel should make its varsity affordable. But they wouldn't!

Many preachers have already lost their conscience to the material things of this life, forgeting what they represent. In all this, one man who always stands out is Pastor Paul Adefarasin. He neither thinks nor behaves like our regular Nigerian pastors.

F

Goldenfinger:
Pls o can i pay tithe from bet9ja winnings,i need answer asap.

kidnappers, treasury looters, ritualists, Yahoo Yahoo, armed robbers pay tithes from their proceeds. your best winnings na small thing.

no pastor will warn all those in this category not to bring such money to him.

Brethren in Christ.

The Bible says that through knowledge shall the just Christian be delivered.

Another Bible verse says my people perish because of lack of knowledge.

Ask questions. Don't swallow whatever your pastors say to you without comparing it to the word of God. Search the scriptures to gain knowledge, only then will you live just as God intended.

Ask God to give you a discerning spirit that'll make you test everything your church leaders say if it's in line with the scripture.

Your soul is more valuable to God than tithing.

Dwell in Christ and let Christ dwell in you by faith. And God has promised that the Holy Spirit will teach you all things (knowledge of tithing inclusive).

Dwell in Christ and let Christ dwell in you.

But for those who are interested in learning another perspective on tithing, this video will help you gain more knowledge about tithing.

Once again, search the scriptures for yourself and test whatever you hear with the scriptures, only then will you know the will of God in all matters of life (including tithing).



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZdrqfoRtBU

delkuf:
If you can't obey God with your tithe, that means you will find it difficult to fully obey God. those people that are shouting I will give my tithe to the poor and how faithful are they with it. they are not faithful with it. give God ten percent that is not too much to ask now

מעשר -- bringing a tithe -- only applied to Jews, not to gentiles. The Christian concept of tithing bears scant resemblance to the Torah concept of מעשר / ma'asér which required that 10% of produce grown in Israel and 10% of any privately owned (by a Jew) kosher domestic farm-animals (cattle, sheep and goats) and poultry (e.g. chickens, geese etc).

The food stuff was to be given to help maintain the Levites (who did not get part of the land, but were dependent on this food to live).

gospelpen:
Powerful principles of increase lesson from Avanzini

Can There Be Prosperity Without the Tithe?

God wants to build an end-time temple, a holy habitation not made with hands. To do this He must have an end-time army of special saints to accomplish His vision. This truth came to me by revelation after years of studying the Bible. It is totally based upon Scripture. God will give the responsibility of building His great end-time dwelling place to those who have proved themselves faithful in financial matters.

When King Josiah commissioned workers for the restoration of the temple, he gave the work to those craftsmen who had already proved themselves faithful in their financial transactions.

And let them deliver it into the hand of the doers of the work . . . to repair the breaches of the house, Unto carpenters, and builders, and masons, and to buy timber and hewn stone to repair the house.
Howbeit there was no reckoning made with them of the money that was delivered into their hand, because they dealt faithfully.
2 Kings 22:5-7

God did not choose these men for the labor because they had promised to be faithful. He chose them because they had already proved themselves faithful. When it came time for King Josiah to choose who would work in the great restoration of the temple, God told the king to select these men because they had an established record of dealing faithfully in their finances. God uses people who are faithful in their finances, and tithing is part of that faithfulness.

Many times people have said to me, "Brother John, when I get a large sum of money (such as an inheritance, sweepstakes, or windfall from some get-rich-quick scheme), I will become a faithful tither to the Lord."

That's not God's way! God requires that we first be faithful in the little matters, right in the midst of our current circumstances. Then He will grant us an abundance. It was true in the Old and New Testaments, and it's true today.

Read what the ruler said to his faithful servant in the Parable of the Talents.

His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
Matthew 25:23

Remember what Jesus said to His disciples about faithfulness.

He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.
Luke 16:10

If you want to be a part of the next big move of God, don't just get your finances in order temporarily. Keep them in order from now on, and be faithful.

Moreover it is required [not just desired] in stewards, that a man be found faithful.
1Corinthians 4:2

What Is an Offering?

By now you probably know that an offering is different from a tithe. The tithe is clearly 10 percent of what you have earned, an amount set by God. It is a non-negotiable obligation you owe Him.

An offering is a different matter. An offering is not a specified amount. It is totally discretionary on our part, an amount we give freely to God. The amount of our offering establishes the measure, or rate by which God will bless us and increase our substance.

...For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
Luke 6:38

An offering is anything you give over and above your tithe. You are not generous in the eyes of God when you tithe. Tithing is simply evidence of honesty and obedience.

It is paying God what you owe Him. However, when you hear the voice of God leading you to give beyond your tithe, that is an offering. It is a freewill love gift to your God.

You can give offerings to help finance your local church, a missionary, or any Christian outreach. Many ministries in the Kingdom of God survive solely on the freewill offerings of God's prosperous people. In many cases, offerings are God's way of meeting their needs.

Remember, your tithe only opens the windows of heaven. God begins to pour out His blessings when you give generous offerings. Your offerings determine the measure God will use to give back to you. Through your tithes and offerings, you will move into a dynamic new realm, working with God, ministering to the needs of a hurting and needy world.

And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.
Mark 16:20

Source: https://jerco.org/2020/07/19/can-there-be-prosperity-without-the-tithe/

TITHING AS REGARDS Malachi.3: 8-10

First to understand the Bible & to interpret & apply it for today's Christians we must know the DIFFERENCES Btw OLD & NEW TESTAMENT

We must know dat d Bible is divided into 3 dispensations The Patriarchal, The Mosiac & The Christian Dispensations. We must also know what's written for the Jews, Gentiles & the Church.

1. The Patriarchal age is the age of the fathers frm Abraham to Moses.
2. The Mosaic age is from Moses to Christ
3. The Christian age is from Christ's death on the cross to the His second coming

God dealt with the people in a very peculiar ways e.g. in the Patriarchal age there was no 10 commandments, in Mosaic age God gave them 10 Commandments & ceremonial laws to be obeyed. The Christian age brought in Grace & Truth
The law was our school master to bring us into CHRIST but now faith has come through Christ we are no longer under the school master. (Gal. 3:22-24). 

We're not justified by law (Gal.5:4). Christ is the end of the law. (Rom.10:1-4).
If we're to practice the Old Testament doctrine together with the New Testament there will be lots of confusion as we will be required according to Leviticus 20 to stone to death fornicators, adulterers, witches, wizards, stoning to death a rebellious son Deuteronomy (21:18-21), practice several burnt offerings & sin offerings of different kinds, stone to death those who work Saturday (Sabbath day). (Numbers 15:32-36). 

If a girl loses her virginity she must be stoned to death to death also (Deut 22:13-21)
Women during their monthly period will be forbidden to come to church & so many more old testament practices. But we know that Christ have nailed all these practices & laws to the cross ( Col. 2:14-16, Rom.10:4)

WHAT IS TITHE? Tithes is a practice of paying "one- tenth" of one's income or possession according to the Old Testament

ORIGIN OF TITHES. The first time the word tithe ever appeared in the Bible is in the Book of Genesis where Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek the priest of Salem. Note that Abraham paid tithes as a reciprocal gestures in appreciation/ response to Melchizedek giving food & wine to Abraham's servants on his way back from war. (Gen.14:8, 18-20). Abraham did not pay tithes to Melchizedek from his personal possessions but from spoils of war that he brought back when he went to rescue Lot his brother. (Gen. 14: 21-2 There was no law compelling Abraham to pay tithes to Melchizedek, he did it freely Abraham DID NOT PAY TITHES AS A CONTINUOUS MONTHLY OR YEARLY RITUAL, but it was a one-time event.

TITHES BECOMES LAW IN ISRAEL.
Tithes became a law in the land of Israel when the children of Israel got to the Promised Land of Cannan. God divided the land to eleven out of the twelve tribes of Israel. But to the tribe of of Levi God didn't give any portion of land, rather God gave them the tithes of which rightly belong to God, because of the services he gave them to perform in the Temple of Tabernacle (Lev. 27:30, Numb. 18:20-24) e.g the tribe of Judah where Christ came from are tithe payers, because they collected their own share of the land of Cannan & God Commanded them to pay to their brother Levi- Aaron & his descendants (Jos.15:1-5, Neh.13:12). 

WHOM DID GOD COMMAND TO PAY TITHES & TO WHOM?
God told all the Nations of Israel to pay Tithes from the land he gave Num. 18:20-21). (Mal. 1:1-2, 3:7-12). We must understand that the laws of the Old Covenant & the laws of TITHES in particular wasn't given to any other tribe in the world but to Israel as a Nation (Deut. 5:1-3)

The Israelites were Commanded to pay tithe to the tribe of Levi only No other tribe in the whole world including Jesus Christ & Judah his tribe has any scriptural right to collect tithes ( Heb. 7:5, 13), rather Judah the tribe Jesus came from were tithes payers & not tithes collectors (Neh. 13:12) 

FROM WHAT PROCEEDS DID GOD COMMANDS THAT TITHES BE PAID?.

Many Pastors who are tithes collectors says tithes must be paid from salaries & business profits but the Bible clearly states where tithes proceeds are to be paid.
Tithes were commanded to be paid from FARM PRODUCE of the Israelites be it ANIMALS or CROPS ( Deut. 14:22 Lev. 27:30-31). In which case God has already provided them farm lands (Jos.15:1-3). So there's no excuse for any
Israelite saying "I can't pay Tithes" or "I don't hv a land to farm".
WAS TITHE TO BE PAID WITH MONEY OR FARM PRODUCE ONLY?. God Commanded that money shouldn't be used for tithes payment but FARM PRODUCE ONLY. This is stated clearly & expressly. (Deut. 14:22-26). 

God knows that money was a good medium of exchange but commanded that if all you have to
to bring your tithes(FARM PRODUCE) from a far distance to where God has put his name then you Have to sell the farm product for money but when you get to d place you have to turn the money into farm produce again & eat before the Lord (Deut.14:22-26)
HOW MANY TYPES OF TITHES ARE THERE?
God actually gave commandments to Israel to pay specific tithe for specific purposes

1. Annual or yearly tithe to be given to take care of the Levites- Aaron & other priests officiating in the Tabernacle (Num. 18:20-24)
2. Tithes every 3 years to be given for the general populace of Levites, widows, orphans, strangers & the poor (Deut. 14:22-29).
3. The priests were also commanded by God to pay tithe of tithes to God, that is the priests are to pay tithes to God from the tithes the Israelites have paid to them. (Num. 18:26-29). Note the tithes which the priests will give to God must be offered as "HEAVE OFFERING" not money offering.

DOES THE BIBLE COMMANDS TODAY'S CHRISTIANS TO PAY TITHES?.

We can clearly see from the Bible that Judaism is different from Christianity. The New Covenant is superior & better than the Old Covenant with DOES THE BIBLE COMMANDS TODAY'S CHRISTIANS TO PAY TITHES?.

We can clearly see from the Bible that Judaism is different from Christianity. The New Covenant is superior & better than the Old Covenant with better promises. Heb. 8: 6-7, 2 Cor. 3:6-16). 

Bible says if the Old Covenant was perfect enough there wouldn't have been need for the New Covenant.(Heb. 8: 7-13). The Old Testament & all it stands for were mere SHADOW of things to come but the New Testament is the real image. Heb.(10:1). 

Tithes & all Old Testament Practices & Doctrines have been abolished (Heb. 8:13)
(Heb.10:9) (2 Cor. 3:6-16) (Col. 2 : 14-17).

(Heb. 8: 7-13). The Old Testament & all it stands for were mere SHADOW of things to come but the New Testament is the real image. Heb.(10:1). 
Tithes & all Old Testament Practices & Doctrines have been abolished (Heb. 8:13)
(Heb.10:9) (2 Cor. 3:6-16) (Col. 2 : 14-17).
Christians are not commanded to pay tithes today but to give a free will offerings as they are blessed. No levying of any kind. Give what you have.

BUT JESUS SAID HE DID NOT COME TO DESTROY THE LAW & THE PROPHETS.

This statement must be well understood not taken in isolation & out of context. Luke clarifies this issue better. (Lk.24: 45-49). In effect Jesus was not saying that he came to destroy nor re-establish the law but to "FULFILL" all that were written about him in the law of Moses, in the Prophets & in the Psalm. And Jesus Indeed has fulfilled all the prophecies concerning him, including his birth, death, burial, resurrection & ascension as prophesied. 

Again in Matt. 23:23 Jesus rebuked the Scribes & Pharisees & he said woe unto them & called them hypocrites for over-emphasizing the payment of tithes at the expense of the weighter matters of the law: mercy, judgement & righteousness. 

Jesus was NOT in this instance recommending tithe payment for his disciples & the New Testament Christians He was rightly addressing the Jews who were given the law he wouldn't have said woe & called his disciples hypocrites. At that time Christ will or Testament wasn't yet in full force. Christ will & Testament became fully in force & enforceable after his death on the cross because there can be no testament except the testator dies. Wills can only be enforceable after he who wrote the wills dies. (Heb. 9:15-23). 

So at Christ's death on the cross the law of tithe & other Old Testament practices ceased to be effective. In effect CHRIST became the only standard of faith for Christians today & no longer the Old Testament. (2 Cor. 3:6-14).

Absolutely Noooooooooo

MightySparrow:
Wrong. there is no church that their members don't contribute money call it any name. All you see is hypocricy on Nairaland. Tithe as far as know about my own church is paid by my pastor who himself doesn't run the church account or draw money from it but lives on gifts from members from which he pays his own to pay church workers.

Are you related to Mr. Liar Mohammed?

I know that Bill Gates has never paid tithes before in his life.

Ditto Mark Zuckerberg

Ditto Alhaji Dangote.

Maybe what the author of this article is trying to ask is

Can our pastors prosper without the tithes of church members?

It's quite confusing isn't it, the Bible said ten percent of the first fruit of your labour......not ten percent of every fruit of your labour......don't you think
I personally feel it's supposed to be once a year because of what is written in the Bible.....first fruit of your labour

KennyRohn:
Jesus dealt with tithe forever.... He destroyed all principalities and powers including the Devourer of Malachi 3:10.... The Devourer was defeated by Jesus by his death on the cross.... If you don't believe this you are a FOOL....
The tithing message is motivated by greed and fear... Greed by the preachers and fear on the part of the tither....
But a true Christian is truly free....and there's no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit (Rom 8:1).
Don't let "Jet-flying" pastors and the bishops condemn you.

You have hit the nail on the head. The poverty mentality driving Nigerian pastors makes them say silly things like if you don’t pay tithe you will be financially enslaved. Jesus came to fulfil the law including paying tithe so we don’t need to. Christ however said we should give food and water to the needy, visit those in prison, help the widows.

delkuf:
I am not saying that you are secured financially if you pay your tithe. I am looking at it from the obedience point of view. if you find it difficult to obey God by giving God ten percent of your income, then you will find it difficult to fully obey God.

The tithe was a form of tax, the jews operated a theocracy where God was their king, so the levites and priest where supposed to collect it..

Every God's portion goes to them..

Nigeria is a democracy.. We are expected to pay tax to the government.. Not to pastor.

leeikem:
The verse that tells you what to do with your tithe that your pastor will not tell you...

this is Daddy Freeze version proving that paying tithe is not scriptural...but a student of the word of God...compare your aforementioned scripture with the practice in Book of Acts of Apostle Chapter 4:37....this was what the church was practicing in the time of early Apostle....are they the same?

Bible is not a logic book; it can only be spiritually decoded...guy, i am not defending the pastor, tithe is needed for the work of ministries in the church but there some greedy pastors and senior pastor that are taking advantage of this fund....some of them use it for themselves and send their children to school abroad....

sonmvayina:


The tithe was a form of tax, the jews operated a theocracy where God was their king, so the levites and priest where supposed to collect it..

Every God's portion goes to them..

Nigeria is a democracy.. We are expected to pay tax to the government.. Not to pastor.

So you are using Nigeria to equate the kingdom of God.

delkuf:
I am not saying that you are secured financially if you pay your tithe. I am looking at it from the obedience point of view. if you find it difficult to obey God by giving God ten percent of your income, then you will find it difficult to fully obey God.

Do you obey God in everything you do? Why is the tithe of thing so much important?

If tithing was the real essennce of financial breakthrough i dont think the country will be ranked highest in the poverty index... Christ has come to pay the price.. Why do we leave love ur neiggbour AS urself and dwell mõre on tithing? Even Solomon stated a man has to be diligient in wat he does to stand before kings. Which is been Hard working wit due dilgience. We alys interpreet the bible to fit our interest...