EgunMogaji2:


1) The guy with the roof that faded

2) The guy with the chicken pillars

raymondFirstborn:


Oga, that N3m won't finish a 3bedroom bungalow. It won't even do for average finishing.

Your calculations are based on the wrong parameters.


The average sqm(floor area) for a typical 3bedroom should not be less than 120sqm.
So how did you get your 70sqm for tiling.

This is what the cost should look like.

For a Kobo project

Let's say

Foundation- 750k(no German floor)

Blockwork -

2500blocks - 2500 x200 = 500,000
Sand. = 1trip of 20tonnes (40k)
Cement = 35bags x 2550 = 90k
Labour =. 2500 x N55 = N137,500

=N767,500
Lintel work + reinforcement(carpentry + iron Bender + casting) = N200,000


Blockwork - N967,500


Roofing - 800k without parapet (Kobo Kobo roofing)

N2.5m- total

Windows and doors - 500k(average)

N3m . This is how far N3m can go.


Floor Tiles - Let's 120sqm
120sqm x 1200 = 240,000
Tiler - 36,000
Cement and sand 100k

Let me stop here..


EDITED***

I didn't add engineers fees or supervisors fee, I am assuming there's no engineer or supervisor involved.

mufutau55:


Yes o. Professionals get their parts to play o.

Hajji M.

erico2k2:

You remember that our friend CQ1 I think frm Canada who's Duplex of millions nearly sank?, Damn mehn we've come a long way since page one!

EgunMogaji2:


My brother after 33 years I came back full time in March last year.

davodyguy:

Please disregard this

loffers:

Good morning,

Since it’s a kobo kobo project, N3m might not be enough but it will go far.

Provided the land is a good one, foundation should not be up to 750k.

You can get block less than the N200 you quoted, 9inches block is about N175 and you can even use 6inches block for most of the work.
Roofing can be lesser than 800k.

There is no point tiling the whole house since it’s a kobo kobo project

alstacs:


This is a brave decision o. To be candid, I never believed you were coming home each time you posted the pix of your mansion in Ibadan (you followed Haji Mufutau55 to call it kobo kobo construction ). One sweet thing I learnt was the way you brought foreign concept to our tropical constructions.

Welcome back home baba! Ilé á tura o.

erico2k2:

Just re-read what, you just wrote and re-evaluate the context. If I have a project that I want to contract out and ask for a quotation from 10 people. am I going to pay a token to all 10 of them?ALl established contractors have throughout the years developped a standard mechanism to evaluate cost at almost no cost.

raymondFirstborn:


9inches block for N175 Which part of Nigeria?
Please drop the number of your supplier, so I can patronize him .


For a 3bedroom bungalow foundation at 750k is reasonable for a Kobo Kobo project. To avoid cracks there would be a plinth beam.

Even though there would be no german floor , the flooring would be done.
Ever wondered why some bungalows, have cracks on the wall?

Even though it's a Kobo Kobo project, the right thing should be done.

DEGREE2466:

Thanks. I will go with the design

EgunMogaji2:


Thank you my Brother, I appreciate you.

I’m actually doing a new micro estate in Ibadan. The idea is that as soon as you’ve entered the gate then you’re in the USA while till giving a nod to our African tradition. Construction is actively ongoing on one of the 5 units,

I went back to the USA last year to spend a few months. I fled back exactly a week later because it was just all foreign to me. Nigeria is very very good. Yeah it’s not perfect, but one can mostly sidestep the inconveniences.

My advice to folks who might be indecisive: If you have skills, ideas, knowledge to improve Africa please come home. Just keep your head down, don’t play big boy (there are much more bigger boys here). Don’t come to apply for job, come to create jobs and industry. The Chinese are doing it, African Americans are here doing it.

Dubemcapital1:



Thanks for the question, it will help us go deep a little. However, it may encourage someone that wants to build a little project here or there that is willing to handle the project directly and based on this and also want to buttress my point so I worked out this estimate for details sake.

Like I said its possible to build a 3bedroom bungalow ensuit with flat roof parttern, pop, tiles etc with #3M and it will come out clean and lovely.

Here:

Bimpsyyyyy:
Laser distance measurer is available for pickup or delivery with just a call or Whatsapp to 09069193297, it is very accurate, it has a plumb to ensure accuracy, it is very portable, it uses battery, easy to use and in less than 5 minutes, the measurements of a whole building is taken.
instead of carrying take around and looking for someone to hold tape with you, you got the measurements yourself
40m - 20k
50/60m - 25k
70/80m - 30k
100m- 35k
120m- 40k

davodyguy:

These your prices are way way too high.

One of the reasons I don't buy most things in Nigeria and go for shopping in China, Turkey, UK is because the exorbitant prices retailers call in products.

I have these tapes, as a chartered Estate Surveyor and not (not 'agent' but RICS and ASA certified) and importing from AliExpress plus shipping to my Lagos address were 50% cheaper than what you quoted.

If cost of acquisition is ₦7500 and shipping ₦2,500=₦10,000. Selling the 40m tape at between ₦12,500 and ₦15,000 would not be bad in my opinion.

No one is saying people should not make profit, but please consider the economic challenges in Nigeria and have mercy. Biko

That's my 80m range Laser Tape.
This is UK and not China version.

If I tell you how much I bought, you think I stole it

Dubemcapital1:



Thanks for the question, it will help us go deep a little. However, it may encourage someone that wants to build a little project here or there that is willing to handle the project directly and based on this and also want to buttress my point so I worked out this estimate for details sake.

Like I said its possible to build a 3bedroom bungalow ensuit with flat roof parttern, pop, tiles etc with #3M and it will come out clean and lovely.

Here:

davodyguy:

These your prices are way way too high.

One of the reasons I don't buy most things in Nigeria and go for shopping in China, Turkey, UK is because the exorbitant prices retailers call in products.

I have these tapes, as a chartered Estate Surveyor and not (not 'agent' but RICS and ASA certified) and importing from AliExpress plus shipping to my Lagos address were 50% cheaper than what you quoted.

If cost of acquisition is ₦7500 and shipping ₦2,500=₦10,000. Selling the 40m tape at between ₦12,500 and ₦15,000 would not be bad in my opinion.

No one is saying people should not make profit, but please consider the economic challenges in Nigeria and have mercy. Biko

That's my 80m range Laser Tape.
This is UK and not China version.

If I tell you how much I bought, you think I stole it

EgunMogaji2:


These are the ones that I gave some of my artisans. About N13K for 100ft but one has to factor expenses like shipping and cost of business.

davodyguy:

Pay attention to the attached image and see shipping cost.

I didn't want to reveal too much before, but since you showed a price, I had to open

rotecch77:


You have done very well to bring all this out, actually this will give some people hope to have there own building.

But the truth is that 3M can not give you 3bedrooms flat with all the facilities you mentioned.

The area you forget to Add to the and some mistake in current cost of materials are as follow.

*Substructure*
1-Cost of 6”block is around N160 against N110 you quoted

2-Cost of cement is btw 2550-2650 against N2350 you mentioned.

3. It’s advisable to use 12mm for the columns in 4bars against 10mm/3bars you suggested.

4-N2500 binding wire can’t not be enough for the whole work 5-8k is good .

5-laterite of 10k/2 Trips can never fill the whole area of the foundation 4-5 trips will do.

Finishings
Floor tiles will be about 160-170meters agains 70meters you suggested.

You didn’t Add burglar proof for the windows

Pop per meter now will be around N3500 for simple plain design

Door with frame 15k it possible but expect to change it in the next 2-3yrs.

Electrical still OK

Mechanical;the pipe quoted is not enough
No provision for bore hole or WELL
No provision for water tanks and stand

No provision for suck away-

2*2*12 for purlins @N250 hmm you will likely get substandard size or white wood for that price N400-600 will work for this depends of your region


Labour
TILING cost will be around 120-160k
Plumber will cost you around 40k

Contingent 10k is NO NO prepare btw 30-50k depends on your region

IF YOU PUT ALL THESE MONEY TOGETHER IT WILL GULP UP N1million or above.

All these is without
Supervion,
No drawing
Not real standard structure.

rotecch77:


You have done very well to bring all these out, actually this will give some people hope to have there own building.

But the truth is that 3M can not give you 3bedrooms flat with all the facilities you mentioned.

The area you forget to Add to the list and some mistake in current cost of materials are as follow.

*Substructure*
1-Cost of 6”block is around N160 against N110 you quoted

2-Cost of cement is btw 2550-2650 against N2350 you mentioned.

3. It’s advisable to use 12mm for the columns in 4bars against 10mm/3bars you suggested.

4-N2500 binding wire can’t not be enough for the whole work 5-8k is good .

5-laterite of 10k/2 Trips can never fill the whole area of the foundation 4-5 trips will do.

Finishings
Floor tiles will be about 160-170meters agains 70meters you suggested.

You didn’t Add burglar proof for the windows

Pop per meter now will be around N3500 for simple plain design

Door with frame 15k it possible but expect to change it in the next 2-3yrs.

Electrical still OK

Mechanical;the pipe quoted is not enough
No provision for bore hole or WELL
No provision for water tanks and stand

No provision for suck away-

2*2*12 for purlins @N250 hmm you will likely get substandard size like 11/2*11/2*10 (popularly called SOLO in south west ) or white wood for that price N400-600 will work for this depends of your region


Labour
TILING cost will be around 120-160k
Plumber will cost you around 40k

Contingent 10k is NO NO prepare btw 30-50k depends on your region

IF YOU PUT ALL THESE MONEY TOGETHER IT WILL GULP UP N1million or above.

All these is without
Supervion,
No drawing
Not real standard structure.

Is the 120-160k the labour fee for tiling 160-170sqm of tiles?

rotecch77:


You have done very well to bring all these out, actually this will give some people hope to have there own building.

But the truth is that 3M can not give you 3bedrooms flat with all the facilities you mentioned.

The area you forget to Add to the list and some mistake in current cost of materials are as follow.

*Substructure*
1-Cost of 6”block is around N160 against N110 you quoted

2-Cost of cement is btw 2550-2650 against N2350 you mentioned.

3. It’s advisable to use 12mm for the columns in 4bars against 10mm/3bars you suggested.

4-N2500 binding wire can’t not be enough for the whole work 5-8k is good .

5-laterite of 10k/2 Trips can never fill the whole area of the foundation 4-5 trips will do.

Finishings
Floor tiles will be about 160-170meters agains 70meters you suggested.

You didn’t Add burglar proof for the windows

Pop per meter now will be around N3500 for simple plain design

Door with frame 15k it possible but expect to change it in the next 2-3yrs.

Electrical still OK

Mechanical;the pipe quoted is not enough
No provision for bore hole or WELL
No provision for water tanks and stand

No provision for suck away-

2*2*12 for purlins @N250 hmm you will likely get substandard size like 11/2*11/2*10 (popularly called SOLO in south west ) or white wood for that price N400-600 will work for this depends of your region


Labour
TILING cost will be around 120-160k
Plumber will cost you around 40k

Contingent 10k is NO NO prepare btw 30-50k depends on your region

IF YOU PUT ALL THESE MONEY TOGETHER IT WILL GULP UP N1million or above.

All these is without
Supervion,
No drawing
Not real standard structure.

rajput4real93:

Is the 120-140k the labour fee for tiling 160-170sqm of tiles?

Dubemcapital1:



Thanks for the question, it will help us go deep a little. However, it may encourage someone that wants to build a little project here or there that is willing to handle the project directly and based on this and also want to buttress my point so I worked out this estimate for details sake.

Like I said its possible to build a 3bedroom bungalow ensuit with flat roof parttern, pop, tiles etc with #3M and it will come out clean and lovely.

Here:

Dubemcapital1:





1. Where I work now ----- 6" hole block is =#110

I will not finish the blocks I listed in the question there will be some left over.

If you read carefully the first subtitle is : Sub & superstructure which includes earth work, blinding, foundation block, filling and concrete over site = substructure

And the physical upper part of the house which is superstructure.

2. As at today cement (unicem) is sold for 2,350 inside Enugu town.

3. 10mm (3bars) means triangle fitted iron beam for lintels with close Intermediate rings, it is rigid. They will be no columns but block Chaining.

4. #2,500 binding wire is 5kg here, its only needed on the lintel iron work.

5. Yes part of the excavated sand and complete with the 2trips of laterite.

6. I was not assumed it was calculated. So but my calculation on m² differs from tillers. its a tight floor calculation the tiller can also argument from wall tiles (they can be a balance up which will not affect the budget)

7. No. Extra security? Our budget considered the neighborhood secured

8. Yes but I got below that, anyone that has bargaining strength can get it lower. besides the actual m² is below 68m². I was going to do PVC ceiling but after the whole cal. I noticed there are some change so I believed the ceiling will be the best to add the money. I also noticed the PVC installation charge 20k was not removed.

9. Fair enough the door will serve (remember our budget )

10. Borehole and pumping machine ? No o
( remember our budget)

11. That's the normal price here #250 (Melina or melila wood. Good one o)

12. Tilling is by calculation 350 per m² will do a good tilling.

13. There should be no contingencies o i believe caution, some careful measure and making the workers know there is zero tolerance for error and disappointments will help but for the unavoidable ones 10k will be there. Its a small project na.

14. I said earlier to achieve this :

He will or I will make a free Hand sketch, not a normal building drawing because the money cannot take care of it.

I will assist the person by proxy (from a distance ) I have helped many through that method before so its going to be free.

Thanks


Dubemcapital

HealthCas:
Please folks, what's the current charge for POP per square meter?

Also, what is the cost for window unit external pop?

And lastly, how much do Tiler charge per square meter.

Thanks

HealthCas:

PLEASE HELP ME!!!

mexxy1:


I'm very impressed by how you simplified everything here.

I see no reason why the so called 'contractors' are arguing about this not being possible.

The post is very practical. This was done for a little over =N=3m (yeah it's an existing old building but, it was virtually a rebuild)

https://www.nairaland.com/5563402/photo-diary-remodeling-reconstruction-old

Dubemcapital built a foundation for =N=8.75m
here

https://www.nairaland.com/5959465/diary-how-built-foundation-valley

He is an experienced builder so knows what he's talking about (as his analysis of =N=3m is for a budget build and, he clearly stated things that were not covered and other areas he used options like local stones instead to cut cost)


Here, this poster built from foundation to roofing for =N=1.6m and, it's even a hip roof (not the cheaper flat roof proposed by dubemcapital)
https://www.nairaland.com/5238791/construction-simple-3-bedroom-bungalow

No need for too much arguments. =N=3m can do it for one person but, may not do the foundation for another.

Excuzeme:


What makes it 3.5M (or #7M for a Plot), apart from the Ajah/Badore name?
- What are its rental value, of houses around the place as of now?
- How close is it to future infrastructures like the "proposed" Airpot, Refinery, etc
- How to close to the Main road is it?
- What is the road network in its environment like?
- What is the "quality" of the people (your neighbours ) around the place
- What is the value of other lands in the area, at this moment?
- How close is it to the Ocean? Can you see or hear the waves from its location?
- You said it needs sandfilling, it that because it is a 'brackish' swamp or it is good, sandy land but just because it has a low elevation wrt the main road?

I am asking all these so you can evaluate the value you are getting for that amount. It is difficult to just say it is "good/bad' value for that amount, since only you have seen the land itself.
You need to make an objective evaluation, taking all the above into consideration.
There are lands in that axis that cost #800,000 only while l also have a plot in the same Place around Cheveron, that some are willing to pay me #35M cash right now but l am not selling because l think the value will skyrocket soon, once certain thinks take shape along that axis.