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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 10:02pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
It is indeed a numbers game... If we want to be super analytical, then we may also factor time value of money, cost of time savings using plasterboard vs extra time spent casing PoP, marginal premium you could extract from neater finish obtainable with plasterboard vs extra cost incurred for housekeeping in the case of PoP, plus other factors that may come to play. At the end, with all factors considered, the difference will be marginal and not as significant for some cases. This is not the first time this is being suggested to me lately so i was just doing some extra validation by following the discussion. It's right up there for consideration ahead of PoP for any of our project with tight time schedule. Builders are generally not open to critical examination and somewhat slow adopters of innovation. My observation. n3xt: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dominionng(m): 10:14pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
rotecch77: That's the thing! No one disputes the fact that plasterboard is way better. As a matter of fact, it's gonna knock POP precast off in no distance future since some firm are already considering producing in Nigeria which will bring down the cost drastically. But at the moment, rate isn't even close. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Focusmind: 10:15pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
mufutau55: Apt!! That is it - If it is cheaper, why are people not using it knowing fully well how cost conscious we could be in this country. Nice observation. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dominionng(m): 10:20pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
n3xt: No Good 12mm plasterboard sells for N6,000 per sheet bros, definitely China board which is even worse than using POP precast since what was packaged in it isn't Gypsum. Average Plasterboard like Turkish Gyprock and ABS is more than that not to talk of good boards like Siniat, Pladur and German Knauf. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by misr2030: 10:20pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Dominionng: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrsfBnRzSqw |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dominionng(m): 10:37pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Focusmind: Don't sweat it sir, it's better but not cheaper. Do you think something will be better and cheaper and the entire country will be blind to it? At the moment, I'm running projects using plasterboard with grids, plasterboard without grids, POP precast and full dry construction(building without blocks). I get these materials almost every week and been doing these here almost a decade, biko don't be deceived. 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:39pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Abolarin91: To achieve what exactly? See how plasterboard is being used? Or validate my assertions? That’s why there’s internet for you to do your findings. I tested the same on a personal project and found it a cheaper alternative and ever since I’ve been using it on my projects. You can just use a small bathroom project to do cost comparison. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 10:44pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
n3xt:I'm tempted by this. We are about to commence finishing for my house this week and the upper floor is where I need to decide going for either POP or the board. Which is actually cheaper? The total sqm of the entire upper floor below the roof noggins is 150sqm 150*₦4,000=₦600,000 for POP How much will the board come to? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rockyheight: 10:49pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Am resident in Ibadan, pls when your next project in Ibadan starts, pls let me get an invite to your site. n3xt: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 10:50pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
sconp:You'll have to 'settle' to overlook, otherwise, you'll pay penal fee, which is like 300% of the assessment done We're dealing with one with LASPPPA presently 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:01pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Dominionng: I sure understand what you’re saying. Unfortunately, I didn’t keep pictures of the last project where I used it. I did regular POP. I did plasterboards with grid. I did plasterboards without grids. I did over 1000sqm of suspended ceiling. The cost is still way cheaper for me than regular POP. I didn’t have to buy glass, buy range, buy oil, buy buy buy. I just bought boards and it’s accessories and voila it was done. Then screeding. @davodyguy Pls don’t be tempted. Do your findings. Experiment with small room and do cost comparison. Simple! The project is in Iperu Ogun state.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Biztech05(m): 11:03pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dominionng(m): 11:10pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
n3xt: Baba, let me walk this walk with you. 1. No transport to move your materials to site? 2. You will buy 3.6 boards in the market? 3. Net tape, POP cement, POP paint and labour for N3,000? 4, 14.4m cornice, material and labour for N7,000? This is even for a plain plasterboard ceiling with cornice and it is still not cheaper. Again, whoever drilled plasterboard directly to wooden noggin in 2020 should be shot at dawn! 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:22pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
My brother we too the overdo for this country. When you even decide to cut off some of these unnecessary stuffs, they'll be like "e no get money" or start advising you to do this or that. Nero2424: 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dominionng(m): 11:22pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
n3xt: I repeat no Good plasterboard is sold for N6,000 per sheet, definitely China board. Great Omegason sells lots of nameless China boards, they also sells good boards. Tell Mr Saheed(Sales Manager) of Great Omegason Diego sends his regards, but insist on Knauf board when next you visit. 10 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:34pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Dominionng: Gradually, we are getting there. Sir, since you know Saheed. You’ll definitely know they sell their accessories N400 naira pere and they sell N5500 and N6000 boards. I already mentioned that there are more expensive boards. And the standard charge of their installers is just N400 naira pere. Now, that they sell knock-offs or China brand is another thing entirely. It’s for the client to decide just like when you go to market to buy Tiles. You’re not compelled to buy Spanish because someone said it’s the world’s best. You cut your coat according to your budget. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:46pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
This is how we were made to believe Wichtech is the all-in-all in roofing and that all other Chinese products are fake and not good. How many people are using Wichtech today? Why were they compelled to make Wichtech Nigeria grades? It’s because people are more wiser now. Get into the market and ask questions. I did and I realize a huge savings on my project. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adegunle4(m): 11:55pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:37am On Aug 10, 2020 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 12:48am On Aug 10, 2020 |
Abolarin91: Oga mi. I don talk my own o. "Caveat Emptor". Hajji M. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 4:20am On Aug 10, 2020 |
Dominionng: Excellent. If anyone is using it with aplomb I knew it’ll be you. I’m never allowing POP panels to be made on my site again, damn the cost. I’ll balance the budget elsewhere. Just too messy for me. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 4:24am On Aug 10, 2020 |
Dominionng: A decade or so ago, many houses under construction were pulled down because the plaster boards they used was imported from China and had cancer causing materials detected in them. Children were getting sick and they did testing which led them to the cause. 5 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 4:31am On Aug 10, 2020 |
Adegunle4: Looking good. I wasn’t a fan of the gateman house picture in the last render but will be doing it on my next build. I can see the functionality now. Lots of things are clearer to me after being on the ground and living here. Some of my decisions made about Nigeria while in the USA weren’t the best. But we move, no time 10 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 4:34am On Aug 10, 2020 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dominionng(m): 5:26am On Aug 10, 2020 |
n3xt: What's my own if you choose to buy substandard plasterboards. Even with your 6k non gypsum packaged board, still not feasible at 4k/sqm for a designed/suspended POP ceiling. Whoever chooses to believe these joke figures does so at his/her own risk. Enough said 6 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 5:28am On Aug 10, 2020 |
Dominionng: How could one tell the difference between the nameless Chinese boards and the good boards like the German Knauf etc? I know someone could say go to a dealer but sometimes the dealers repackage products.. you think you are buying the original, the real deal without knowing they repackaged a fake low quality product for you. So is there any litmus test to tell the difference? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 6:00am On Aug 10, 2020 |
Dominionng:An authority on the subject has spoken! 6 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 6:25am On Aug 10, 2020 |
When I came here, someone told me that the people here are all the ogas and right now, I'm seeing it all. Plasterboard and pop don carry discussion for more than five pages. My joy is that I'm learning a whole lot from you people and I'm glad to be here. Having said that, remember we beautifully secure your home at Testimony Constructions. Call on us for your iron works like doors,gates, handrails, burglaries and so on. Good morning and have a great week ahead 2 Likes
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dominionng(m): 6:26am On Aug 10, 2020 |
Badgers14: 1. They have their names boldly written on them, with s/n and date of production at the edges, while the China boards are mostly nameless 2. Comes in single sheet, while the China boards are mostly double packed with a paper tape to bind them. See image 1 and 2 3. You can feel the strength by lifting both 4. Site test: Cut a small piece of both(like 1ft by 1ft), dip in water for like an hour, one comes out useless, while the other remain solid, can be dried and reused. 7 Likes 1 Share
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 6:40am On Aug 10, 2020 |
Dominionng: Thanks for the clarification.. Curious if anyone could try number 4, let's see how that worked... not that I doubt your expertise but oga, my eyes have seen something in this life... not to derail this thread but does anyone remember when NAFDAC mandated that medications have a serial number and a verification line where one could text the serial number to verify authenticity.. boys some how, some way rigged the system.. they package a fake product with a serial number that confirms authenticity as a genuine product I know a guy that is a distributor, company authorized.. but he still goes to China to make low quality product and package it like the real original product.. because he is a confirmed company authorized agent.. people think every product he sell are original. 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:55am On Aug 10, 2020 |
EgunMogaji2: Good morning. Thanks for sharing. I’ve read gone through the post and I found this too: https://www.lafargeholcim.us/sites/us/files/atoms/files/gypsum_sds_english.pdf https://www.poison.org/articles/when-is-drywall-a-problem-172 Not all of the homes with problem drywall contained drywall manufactured in China. Some problem homes contained drywall manufactured in North America and some had drywall with no indication of origin. "Problem drywall" refers to all affected drywall regardless of its country of origin. https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_effects_of_plaster_of_paris_to_respiratory_system_and_skin |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 7:06am On Aug 10, 2020 |
n3xt: Be that article as it may, I was there on ground, building and working in Texas. The ones I was aware of were all identified as being from China. I’m no custom officer and have no access to the bill of ladings. I’ll stick to my first hand local knowledge from builders. I know how many houses were pulled down in my subdivision in north Dallas due to this China drywall issue. Thanks. 5 Likes |
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