Nezzjnr:

Hope you know if Ole resigns... He'll pay the club an huge amount of money

I thought of that also

I'm sure there were targets and working conditions both parties agreed to. I don't think he signed up to be a magician.

SIRcumalot:

Bro,them go sell the club once we start to tread water.
If know be say I be Utd fan,I go say,sense wan kill them.

Looking at it from a business perspective, it makes sense.

But, from a football perspective, it’s a disaster, especially for those who actually love the club.

Who even pays themselves consultancy fee from a soccer club?

ChristineC:
what part of the video is false?

The Glazers need to spend their own money on the club. They used equity and debt to buy the club, so, the equity is not their money abi? They bough the club for 800m, debt used was about 500m, so 300m no be investment?

Yes, they spend heavily when we dont make top 4, but, it's rational to only build on what you have by making few additions after making top 4.....it shows that there is a thought process. You dont do overhauls every year. you guys whant Utd to be spending heavily every year, the higher/bigger spenders have only spent a few hundred million pounds more than us.

SIRcumalot:

Make person no speak in absolutes,but one of the reason is that we pay them way too much.


Nobody we take on j. Lingz 100k/week we never even mention Mata or Jones and now we've also given Matic a three year contract.
Some other clubs have the policy that you only get one year renewal once you cross 30.

Are they not players? Real's goal keeper was a basket at Chelsea, how much did RM pay Chelsea for him?

After how last season ended, it’s very easy to see that reinforcement should be brought in. This isn’t rocket science.

The club is about to go on a basic 46 matches next season, any progress can potentially increase that number to 60.

These guys might overwhelm teams with massive attacking football for the first 10 to 15 matches, but what happens after that?

Bruno doesn’t even have a deputy, Greenwood does not. One injury to any of them, and the team slides back automatically.

GloryIsaac:


Looking at it from a business perspective, it makes sense.

But, from a football perspective, it’s a disaster, especially for those who actually love the club.

Who even pays themselves consultancy fee from a soccer club?

It's happening at every club. Man Utd is a public/listed company, reason you guys know what's going on at the club.

GloryIsaac:
After how last season ended, it’s very easy to see that reinforcement should be brought in. This isn’t rocket science.

The club is about to go on a basic 46 matches next season, any progress can potentially increase that number to 60.

These guys might overwhelm teams with massive attacking football for the first 10 to 15 matches, but what happens after that?

But OGS decided to stick with same starting 11, when we had players on the bench. You dont neglect your Corolla because you have a Bugatti, one day your Buggati will breakdown because it's tired, and then your Corolla will refuse to start.

Giroud, Abraham, Mount are not fantastic players, but Frank did not discard them and play the same starting 11 throughout last season.

It's not rocket science!

nitrogen:


Are they not players? Real's goal keeper was a basket at Chelsea, how much did RM pay Chelsea for him?

Not a good enough example because courtois was already established enough that you could dismiss his form as a minor blip which is the truth.
Plus courtouis salary,relative to his performance his still great.

We're reportedly paying Sir rashdy around 200k per week the same 200k spur they pay Harry Kane..

Me personally, after Jose fork up for here..
Have lost belief in some of kind of whiz manager that would win the league, surely miracles like liecester will happens once in ten years.
But if you wan win league, it is all about the money.
We were dominant when we out spent everybody. That is what we've to do,to be on top again.

ChristineC:
I'm sure there were targets and working conditions both parties agreed to. I don't think he signed up to be a magician.

Woodward isn't stupid also

After that Mou saga

SIRcumalot:

Not a good enough example because courtois was already established enough that you could dismiss his form as a minor blip which is the truth.
Plus courtouis salary,relative to his performance his still great.

We're reportedly paying Sir rashdy around 200k per week the same 200k spur they pay Harry Kane..

What about Morata, Luiz (sold twice by Chelsea), Costa, Matic, Nathan Ake, Oscar, Ramires, Peter Cech, Felippe, Mata?

So, who do we blame for the negotiations? The Glazers are not in charge of that. Blame the manager(s), scouts and those in charge of negotiations. Why not go to small leagues/clubs, buy relatively unknown players for cheap, and get them to become the best players in the league.

nitrogen:


It's funny how some of you cant engage in conversations without resorting to insults......

Meanwhile, @bolded, tell me that we have not spent money since Fergie left.

U've insulted people here unprovoked before...so??


All the money we have spent on players since SAF left, how many of those players are still playing here. How many of them turned out to be hits?

Na ur type go complain say we spent money on Mkhitaryan despite the guy dropping disasterClass after disasterClass.


Ole has lost Valencia, Smalling, Rojo, Darmian, Herera, Fellaini, Sanchez, Lukaku. Eight players.

He has only replaced Valencia, Smalling and Fellaini with the bulk of the 200m you keep yapping about. Yet to replace Lukaku, Sanchez, Herera.

But...but...we have spent money and the Glazers have tried.

nitrogen:


They care about trophies, that's why they keep spending. Meanwhile, spending 200m every season is not sustainable. Revenue is 650m pounds, player wages alone is close to 350m pounds....spending 200m pounds every season is not sustainable at all!

No club spends that amount every season!

let's be reasonable, when has the board spent £200m before ever?? when have they spent that twice in a role?

let's forget the past and all it's conjectures. let's even look at it since Ole's appointment so when next you shout sack sack sack, you'd realise how you sound.

the man has been on the job for a season and half. when he came in, the team just got battered 3-0 at Anfield and had absolutely no direction.

now look at the hard facts: in that time he's lost nine first team players and I'd list them for those with a short memory
1. Mourane Fellaini
2. Ander Herrera
3. Matteo Darmian
4. Chris Smalling
5. Marcos Rojo
6. Romelu Lukaku
7. Ashley Young
8. Alexis Sanchez
9. Anthony Valencia

the ins
1. Aaron wan Bissaka
2. Harry Maguire
3. Dan James
4. Bruno Fernandes
5. Odion Ighalo

now on the balance of things, Ole needs about 4 players to level. if we look at the commitment to youth development and say Mason Greenwood and Brandon Williams have come through, we still need at least two players because thrusting such youth into the deep end as starting 11 players for the whole season is unreasonable.

Ole finished third, made the semis of all competitions he played, tell us how you want the team to go further when we finished 33 points behind Liverpool.
you have been quick to bring up Chelsea and their businesses, why should that be a benchmark for Man Utd? even if we look at the facts again, how many players have left Chelsea since Lampard's appointment and how many have come in? let's count the numbers are see the truth.

we are some way off the top teams, there's no doubt that the board lacks ambition if Ole is not backed this season. sacking him or not will not directly impact the fortune of this club if same business model is kept. it's as simple as that.

Okay guys


I hope this is True

Lana1:
U've insulted people here unprovoked before...so??


All the money we have spent on players since SAF left, how many of those players are still playing here. How many of them turned out to be hits?

Na ur type go complain say we spent money on Mkhitaryan despite the guy dropping disasterClass after disasterClass.


Ole has lost Valencia, Smalling, Rojo, Darmian, Herera, Fellaini, Sanchez, Lukaku. Eight players.

He has only replaced Valencia, Smalling and Fellaini with the bulk of the 200m you keep yapping about. Yet to replace Lukaku, Sanchez, Herera.

But...but...we have spent money and the Glazers have tried.

Have we spent or not? Na only Utd dey buy players that eventually flop? Shey all our new players flop?

The players that OGS lost, please dont tell me that all of them are deadwoods. How sensible is release or lose 8 players in a single transfer window/season, when you dont have replacements lined up? How possible to replace 8-10 players in just 2 seasons without spending up to 500m, which could lead to bankruptcy? Why replacing 'deadwoods' with 'deadwoods'?

Chief, you need to calm down!

ChristineC:
let's be reasonable, when has the board spent £200m before ever?? when have they spent that twice in a role?

let's forget the past and all it's conjectures. let's even look at it since Ole's appointment so when next you shout sack sack sack, you'd realise how you sound.

the man has been on the job for a season and half. when he came in, the team just got battered 3-0 at Anfield and had absolutely no direction.

now look at the hard facts: in that time he's lost nine first team players and I'd list them for those with a short memory
1. Mourane Fellaini
2. Ander Herrera
3. Matteo Darmian
4. Chris Smalling
5. Marcos Rojo
6. Romelu Lukaku
8. Alexis Sanchez
9. Anthony Valencia

the ins
1. Aaron wan Bissaka
2. Harry Maguire
3. Dan James
4. Bruno Fernandes
5. Odion Ighalo

now on the balance of things, Ole needs about 4 players to level. if we look at the commitment to youth development and say Mason Greenwood and Brandon Williams have come through, we still need at least two players because thrusting such youth into the deep end as starting 11 players for the whole season is unreasonable.

Ole finished second, made the semis of all competitions he played, tell us how you want the team to go further when we finished 33 points behind Liverpool.
you have been quick to bring up Chelsea and their businesses, why should that be a benchmark for Man Utd? even if we look at the facts again, how many players have left Chelsea since Lampard's appointment and how many have come in?

we are some way off the top teams, there's no doubt that the board lacks ambition if Ole is not backed this season. saving him or not will not directly impact the fortune of this club if same business model is kept. it's as simple as that.

Please, understand what I am saying o. I did not say we have spent 200m every year, I said we cant be spending 200m every year (as expected by Fans), it's not sustainable! Also, we are one of the big spenders in Europe!

@ChristineC,

According to transfermarkt.us, Chelsea realised 260m (between 2019 and 2020) from the transfer market.

nitrogen:


What about Morata, Luiz (sold twice by Chelsea), Costa, Matic, Nathan Ake, Oscar, Ramires, Peter Cech, Felippe, Mata?

So, who do we blame for the negotiations? The Glazers are not in charge of that. Blame the manager(s), scouts and those in charge of negotiations. Why not go to small leagues/clubs, buy relatively unknown players for cheap, and get them to become the best players in the league.

Salary relative to performance.
I could do the same for Utd.
we've no problem moving lukaku,ibra, chicharito,even fellaini we found a home. Simply because they are worth it for those clubs.
Majority of those that are remaining are collecting massive salary.



I never understand this your blind defense of the glazer you must be an honorary family member.

nitrogen:
@ChristineC,

According to transfermarket, Chelsea realised 260m (between 2019 and 2020) from the transfer market.

what's the implication of this? it's the same reason fans are telling you that the Glazers are fleecing the club.
if United made £260m from transfer market, where will the money end up?
how did Ronaldo's money improve the squad the following season?
from UCL finalists to having a spend equalling that of Wigan Athletic, yet you need miracles of a UCL trophy the next season. Fergie the magician ei?
that's why I asked if you even watched the video.

The Glazers are a big part of the problem.

It’s not a crime to take money out of your investment but when you do that at the detriment of that investment, there’ll be consequences.

Plus it’s really dumb to support a manager up to a point when he seems to be getting somewhere with the team and then suddenly yank the ladder out from under him.

Pep Guardiola overhauled his defense a few seasons ago and they’ve already spent 40m on Ake this season. This, after they found out last season they were leaking goals.

Juventus has a plethora of players in their team and still keeps on buying players. They have a good second team.

Liverpool bought Mané, Wijnaldum and a few others for Kop in his first season. And years later when Kopp got somewhere with the team and identified a gaping hole in his defense they went out of their way to get VVD for him.


The Glazers are not interested in Manchester United. They don’t give a fvck about the team. Else they won’t put an inexperienced mofo in charge of things. That single decision is ruining the club.

The failed to land any real player for Nwoyes. They penny-pinched and bought a bunch of averages for LvG and during Mourinho’s time they spent big bucks but didn’t think long term. And when things became tough they yanked the ladder out from under Mourinho.

With Olé they’ve started well but now that the team is showing promise they’re dragging their legs. How many players have been sold with no replacements brought in?

Matt Judge and his band of buffoons, apart from their ineptitude at making transfers happen, are awarding contracts with huge sums to players who hardly merit them. That’s why we can’t sell these players, not because fans criticize them. I don’t know why Matic should get 3 years. Why did Sanchez get that much? DDG? Rashford? Etc.

The Glazers, if they care about the club, can run a tight ship and still rake in profits. The success on the pitch will definitely reflect in their accounts. What they’ve done is turn their cash cow (the Fergie era) into a question mark.

And things probably won’t change for United until the ownership changes- and that may happen after they’ve ran the club into the ground and ruined the future of many talented players.

ChristineC:
what's the implication of this? it's the same reason fans are telling you that the Glazers are fleecing the club.
if United made £260m from transfer market, where will the money end up?
how did Ronaldo's money improve the squad the following season?
from UCL finalists to having a spend equalling that of Wigan Athletic, yet you need miracles of a UCL trophy the next season. Fergie the magician ei?
that's why I asked if you even watched the video.

Having inflows through transfer dealings means you can spend more because net spend is almost zero. Essentially, you are saying that having less inflow is justified because the money will be taken out by the Glazers. Nawa for you o.

SIRcumalot:
I don't even necessarily want Sancho..

Just some bodies to at least reinforce the first 11.
Maybe we wan unveil three players at once..

Been a while I saw this monicker. The crisis brought you back? Lol

We actually need just about two signings, I don't think it's too much an ask. If dem no sign, we'll have to play catch up all season. Anyone with eyes and brain knows this first team needs reinforcement. We've steadily released/sold players these past two windows. If we fail to sign, Ole would most likely fail, then gets sacked, new manager comes in, gets a solid transfer, then is left hanging again. Wash, rinse, repeat.

nitrogen:


Have we spent or not? Na only Utd dey buy players that eventually flop? Shey all our new players flop?

The players that OGS lost, please dont tell me that all of them are deadwoods. How sensible is releasing or losing 8 players in a single transfer window/season, when you dont have replacements lined up? How possible to replace 8-10 players in just 2 seasons without spending up to 500m, which could lead to bankruptcy? Why replacing 'deadwoods' with 'deadwoods'?

Chief, you need to calm down!

Madrid is one of those clubs u said United should emulate. They are top 3 richest club in the world like us. They have spent an average of 200m per season for the last 2 seasons just to win the league. They have been breaking transfer revords since time immemorial to stay at the top. They dont have 2 heads.

Khaytunechi:


Been a while I saw this monicker. The crisis brought you back? Lol

We actually need just about two signings, I don't think it's too much an ask. If dem no sign, we'll have to play catch up all season. Anyone with eyes and brain knows this first team needs reinforcement. We've steadily released/sold players these past two windows. If we fail to sign, Ole would most likely fail, then gets sacked, new manager comes in, gets a solid transfer, then is left hanging again. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Dont worry, they will sign 1-2 players, but dont expect 4-5 players. Fans are expecting the club to sign 4-5 players because they can see Chelsea doing great in the transfer market.

They will def add 1-2 players. Watch!

SIRcumalot:

Salary relative to performance.
I could do the same for Utd.
we've no problem moving lukaku,ibra, chicharito,even fellaini we found a home. Simply because they are worth it for those clubs.
Majority of those that are remaining are collecting massive salary.



I never understand this your blind defense of the glazer you must be an honorary family member.

Lol.. he’s a long-time member of OleOUT, that’s just it.

GloryIsaac:


Lol.. he’s a long-time member of OleOUT, that’s just it.

You get am. If he gives Glazers a huge chunk of the blame pie how much pie would be left to give Ole.

Lana1:
Madrid is one of those clubs u said United should emulate. They are top 3 richest club in the world like us. They have spent an average of 200m per season for the last 2 seasons just to win the league. They have been breaking transfer revords since time immemorial to stay at the top. They dont have 2 heads.

Madrid don’t even hide theirs

Full-blown Galacticos. That’s why most players are attracted to them, a show of status.

afrodoc2:


You get am. If he gives Glazers a huge chunk of the blame pie how much pie would be left to give Ole.

It’s glaring . The blame should be saved very well for Ole

Nezzjnr:
Okay guys


I hope this is True

Glazers won’t let go of their cash cow that easily. These are Americans we’re talking about here

Strictly business.

nitrogen:


Dont worry, they will sign 1-2 players, but dont expect 4-5 players. Fans are expecting the club to sign 4-5 players because they can see Chelsea doing great in the transfer market.

They will def add 1-2 players. Watch!

1-2 quality additions is what’s needed. I won’t cry if another 1 -2 squad options are added but that’s for the next season.

We have about 5CBs and 3 full backs and about 1 or 2 CBs who can slot in the fullback position when fixtures become hectic. Things are not 100% fine there but we can still manage- heck we had one of the nest defences last season and a lot of the goals we conceded were due to individual errors.

The midfield needs depth. We’ve only got Matic, Fred, McTom n Pogba. Only Pogba and Matic are the first choice here, and there’s no guarantee that they can offer top performances when things become hectic. Fred and McTom can step up but it’s a disaster when they play together. A quality addition here won’t be bad. Doesn’t need to be expensive too.

Now, it’s glaring from last season that scoring goals is one of our biggest problems. We create loads of chances and just fail to bury them in the back of the net. Before Bruno arrived in January we were parading Lingard and Tikitaka legend Perreira in that attack. Imagine! Lord knows how we coped during that time. We couldn’t create chances and there was a time we scored just one goal in about 3 or 4 games. It was horrible.

It’s obvious we need at least one quality addition in attack. Rashford, Martial and Greenwood are a deadly force when played together. But body no be firewood. Even Bruno sef, when things got hectic, his performance dropped. We just need quality additions that will take over when one player is injured, fatigued due to fixture congestion, or going through a bad spell.

afrodoc2:


You get am. If he gives Glazers a huge chunk of the blame pie how much pie would be left to give Ole.

Now this is hilarious

Na Mr. Biggs

nitrogen:


They care about trophies, that's why they keep spending. Meanwhile, spending 200m every season is not sustainable. Revenue is 650m pounds, player wages alone is close to 350m pounds....spending 200m pounds every season is not sustainable at all!

No club spends that amount every season!

The other day, I pointed out that you can as well say we have wasted money buying players suited to a coach and not the way we want to play (Philosophy) you dismissed my point and I left it there.

Bayern tried Kovac which pattern of play is quite different from what is associated with Bayern and it backfired but once Flick came in, we saw the Bayern of old.

The big question is; why can't we build on from last season? The defense improved, our midfield is one player away from getting ready and our attack, one or two...In defense, we can do with one more player but no, we can't keep spending...

I won't be surprised if the clueless board opt for Simeone after Ole just so we are back to square one...