Jayhansdboss:

What are your evidence on this

Thenorth:

You already long gone...
Totally mislead...
Just keep your strength aside, Cos you doesn't Even reach the kind of Disbeleaver that I will waste my precious time arguing about what the noble QUR'AN contain...
I pray to Allah almighty every morning when I wake up to protect and keep me on my faith...

Jayhansdboss:

When last was an apostate murdered in your country

fashionhub:

Okay... Let's put it this way
See. I understand you urge to make sense
To make sense out of everything possible, and that's why right now I'm talking to you as I will talk to my younger brother,
Everything does not go in 0s and 1s.
You do not know anything
The more you try to proof that wrong, the more you get nested in the debris of your intellectual jargons

Alright... you want thinking abi, then tell me why the heaven(sky) is with no pillars

obinrinrere:


I doubt if you have ever taken your time to study Islam. Anyway Allah guides whom he wills to the path of Islam.

Xmuslim:


The sky is not a sollid body

Please read about what sky means from scientific point of view for more details

Xmuslim:
do you know that Qur'an is not perfectly preserved as claimed by Muslim scholars? Let's start here.

Check my thread. Can't begin to type all afresh
https://www.nairaland.com/5951651/quran-preservation-mere-claim

2: 106 We have not cancelled some verses nor (caused you) to forget them except we replace them with somthing better or similar. Do you not know that Allah is competent over all things?

87: 6-7 We shall teact you to read(His verses) and not forget, except what Allah wills

CHOPbeating:


Can't you praise GOD using your own indigenous language, must you use ARABIC?
Is Saudi Arabian language better than yours?
SLAVE!!!

Xmuslim:
you need to be independent thinker before you can understand my view. Qur'an is just one of many religious books. It can be questioned if error is found in it the same way we question the Bible and other scriptures. Snap out of the dillusion that Qur'an is absolute truth and contain no error

By the way I questioned Bible a lot when I was a Muslim. I still do by the way. So Qur'an is not excepted from criticism

Agbegbaorogboye:
Most of them are terrorist enablers. The blood of people slain by BH, Al-Qaeda and Al-Shabab be on their heads.

Though I understand the OP is lying and those people never converted to Islam

Xmuslim:

@bolded. Why would sky need pillars? In fact, your point is one of the weakness of the Qur'an.

[b] Muhammad like any other 7th century man with limited scientific knowledge felt that the sky is a solid body that require a pillar. But we now know that sky is just a vast space.]

The sky is not a solid body [/b

The star are not attached to the sky like Qur'an claimed. Infact, many single stars are bigger than our planet

Please read about what sky means from scientific point of view for more details

Xmuslim:
One problem I identified with Muslims is that you guys always think you have the absolute truth. Things are more complicated guys. Lower your pride and be objective and open minded.

I don't care if you are Muslim or Christian or atheist. What I care about is dangerous things in those religions should be discarded.

Example, jihad (religious war) should be abolished- Islam promotes peace amongst the people. Fighting was only precibed as a response to oppresion by the Polytheists. The people fighting in the name of Islam today are blood thirsty demons and will face the wrath of Allah on the Day of Recompense

Permissibility of beating wives should be abolished (some will say the beating should be with tooth brush - it's not true): The verse was not to promote wife beating. Neither the Prophet nor his companions ever beat their wives. Only violent monsters, of any faith, beat up their wives.

Permissibility of minor marriage should be abolished: Neither the Prophet nor his Companions married a minor. Aishah was a matured young lady at the time of ther marriage to the Prophet. Again sick pedophiles are hiding behind Islam to perpetuate their animalistic desires.

Killing apostate and blasphemous should be abolished: I've responded to this. No verse of the Qur'an orders the killing of apostates. People really need to atke their time to learn this Deen

Forcing religion on your children should be abolished. Let then decide: No compulsion in religion. The best we can do as parents is to guide them, forcing them would result in futility because ' Indeed all actions are by intentions'...

Preventing your female children from marrying from other faiths should be abolished: It's for her protection. We've seen how our Muslim ladies marry christians, who promsied to let them practice their fate only for them to force them to christianity after marriage. We'll be questtioned on how we raised our children on the Day of Recompense

Forcing hijab on your child girl should be abolished. Let them decide: No one forced the hijab on me. I made the conscious decisionn to do that for the sake of Allah and no one else. Forcing anyone to perform any act of worship is futile, the best you can do is advice. All actions are judged by intentions.

And lots more; bring em on Allah is sufficient for us.

sukomit:


What religion do you practise now? Which one is perfect to you?

sukomit:


What religion do you practise now? Which one is perfect to you?

NeoWanZaeed:


You would have to ask him.


None of his conducts is same with conducts of islamic rulings.



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Preaching using bible
Comparing Quran with bible
He's so reeked of innovations (bidah).. Even his predecessor... Deedat

Kingzeez10:

Religion of piss yet you leave what you're doing to open this thread. Na you dey pissed me off sef

obinrinrere:


I doubt if you have ever taken your time to study Islam. Anyway Allah guides whom he wills to the path of Islam.

Xmuslim:
you surprised me. Did read sahih buhari at all?

Do you know how many countries that still apply it including Northern Nigeria

hakym619:


State reasons why they shouldn't

motayoayinde:

DIDN'T DENY IT BEING A PART OF OUR LAWS. I ONLY EXPLAINED THAT IT'S AS DIFFICULT TO IMPLEMENT AS THE ADULTERY LAW.

AFTER ALL THE RIGOUR TO ASCERTAIN THAT THE "MURTAD" (apostate) IS OF SOUND MENTAL HEALTH AND HAS INDEED APOSTASIZED BY DECLARATION AND ACTIONS, HE'S GIVEN ENOUGH TIME TO RECONSIDER HIS ACTIONS,
HE'S ALSO ALLOWED ACCESS TO ANYONE WHO CAN TALK HIM OUT OF HIS DECISION WHILE LETTING HIM KNOW OF THE CONSEQUENCES.

ALL OF THESE MUST BE IN AN ISLAMIC STATE, WHERE THE PENAL CODE FOR THE ENTIRE STATE IS SHARI'AH, NOT LIKE OURS AND MOST OTHER MUSLIM COUNTRIES WHERE THE SECULAR CONSTITUTION IS SUPREME.

AT THE END OF ALL THESE, THE FINAL DECISION TO TAKE HIS LIFE RESTS WITH THE RULER OF SUCH A STATE IF HE DOES NOT RECANT.

IT DOES HAPPEN, BUT RARELY.

k4kenny:

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Arkmanbuddy:



You guys are gradually denying your Islamic apologists one after the other. I'm amazed!

Xmuslim:
you explain it perfectly. I can't deny the truth. But if I'm in that shoe and I pretend that I am no longer a disbeliever, that would be tantamount to forcing me.

It is like someone pointing a gun at me and telling me I have a choice to either say I'm a Muslim again or get killed. I don't think it is fair one bit .

If this isn't enough for you to doubt Islam, then we must be from a different planet

blackjack21:


The bolded call to question the story of Muhammad to have travelled through the firmament to heaven. if the story were true then he would have surely observed that the sky was a composite of gases which excuse any assertion that the sky needs a pillar; so either that or we have to question the observer's faculties.

although, there's a possibility of clouds being solid it would still depend on the gravitational configuration of a planet to determines whether it crashes down or not.

So the answer to why the sky (wether solid or gaseous) does need a pillar is simply "GRAVITY".

RELIGION IS DARKNESS.
ONE OUGHT TO LOVE SCIENCE.

NeoWanZaeed:



Idiot boi with insane logic...

Since you have renounce Islam.. Why are you still alive?

Laughing

Xmuslim:
be more civil in your utterances. It will help you as you grow up. Life is complex than your imagination. It does not end in the Qur'an

fashionhub:

I'm bewildered at the level of your comprehension
THE SKY IS A OPEN SPACE!!!
I'm mesmerized
If the sky is an open space then tell me what dampens the effect of the rays coming from the sun?
What engulfs the vaporized water from the earth causing it to rain back on us?
What acts as an interface between your gravity (9.82m/s2) and zero gravity

You know this is basic science.
You don't need to be an intellect to understand it

The Quran gives you a solid answer to your misery.

I need to go for soolah
Drop your misinformation, I will tend to them when I'm done