Nothing on army aviation?

Fynline:


I wish the army had this helicopters. Dont know if it is ignorant to ask why the navy need so many helicopters when non us ASW capable

Well, they helicopters will be rigged for ASW if the mission demands. So, the NN needs them.

Am glad we are finally purchasing in quantity military gear, however, there does seem to be a creeping dependence on Chinese weaponry that i am not comfortable with. Before it becomes too late we need to diversify, get from the Russians, and the Turks. Standardization is a good thing when you produce your own weapons, it is a hindrance when all your gear is produced by another nation.

I should drop some recent purchases
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Morocco requested a modification to its 162 M1A2 abrams deal. The 162 will be upgraded to M1A2 SEP v3 the latest variant of the tank.
Morocco already have 222 M1A1 SP.

Fynline:


I wish the army had this helicopters. Dont know if it is ignorant to ask why the navy need so many helicopters when non us ASW capable

come to think of it has the Army finished paying for the three helos.
Because I'm sure in 2018/2019 budget they listed it but I haven't seen it since in other budget.
NA just finished a big hangar in Lagos and os building one in Borno so maybe they'll soon receive it

*targeting pod
*laser guided air-to-surface missiles
retrofit all platforms with these
all new air assets must have these
golden

UltimateDreamer:
*targeting pod
*laser guided air-to-surface missiles
retrofit all platforms with these
all new air assets must have these
golden

*Fake Image
*Manipulated Image
*Doctored Image

These words should always appear on all the content you post for the sake of posterity.

Daverytimes:
Am glad we are finally purchasing in quantity military gear, however, there does seem to be a creeping dependence on Chinese weaponry that i am not comfortable with. Before it becomes too late we need to diversify, get from the Russians, and the Turks. Standardization is a good thing when you produce your own weapons, it is a hindrance when all your gear is produced by another nation.

The problem of purchasing Russian weaponry in this trump administration is that Nigeria might fall victim to CAATSA sanctions. This is the reason we have not received our 7 remaining MI-35M helicopters.

We can only realistically purchase top of the line Russian weaponry if we get guarantees from the US that we would not be sanctioned.

Turkish weapons, Turkish drones are filled with imported Western components. Intact Canada has stopped exporting parts for Turkish drones, Turkey cannot deliver T-129 helicopters to Pakistan because of sanctions, it remains to be seen if Turkey can deliver Milgem Corvettes to Pakistan.

This leaves us with just a few options to buy from, China remains are best source for high quality weapons.

That's the reason why it's a good thing that Nigeria is investing in local production of weapons.

Fynline:
Hope your source is not SSBN sha

His source was accurate on the drones.

kabe1:


The problem of purchasing Russian weaponry in this trump administration is that Nigeria might fall victim to CAATSA sanctions. This is the reason we have not received our 7 remaining MI-35M helicopters.

We can only realistically purchase top of the line Russian weaponry if we get guarantees from the US that we would not be sanctioned.

Turkish weapons, Turkish drones are filled with imported Western components. Intact Canada has stopped exporting parts for Turkish drones, Turkey cannot deliver T-129 helicopters to Pakistan because of sanctions, it remains to be seen if Turkey can deliver Milgem Corvettes to Pakistan.

This leaves us with just a few options to buy from, China remains are best source for high quality weapons.

That's the reason why it's a good thing that Nigeria is investing in local production of weapons.

Hmmmm

UltimateDreamer:
*targeting pod
*laser guided air-to-surface missiles
retrofit all platforms with these
all new air assets must have these
golden

pls remove these you'll mislead some people here

Honestly, we need to do something about the remaining MI-35s. CAATSA sanctions will remain regardless of who wins the election. It is a bullying tactic to ensure countries have little choice apart from patronizing US arms industries and American politicians have benefited massively. Many are not even happy that we are getting capable platforms like the Tucanos at all sef. This is the time for policy change in Nigeria, we cannot continue to stand on the fence where our national security is threatened.

Off Topic...

One lucky dude.

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kabe1:


The problem of purchasing Russian weaponry in this trump administration is that Nigeria might fall victim to CAATSA sanctions. This is the reason we have not received our 7 remaining MI-35M helicopters.

We can only realistically purchase top of the line Russian weaponry if we get guarantees from the US that we would not be sanctioned.

Turkish weapons, Turkish drones are filled with imported Western components. Intact Canada has stopped exporting parts for Turkish drones, Turkey cannot deliver T-129 helicopters to Pakistan because of sanctions, it remains to be seen if Turkey can deliver Milgem Corvettes to Pakistan.

This leaves us with just a few options to buy from, China remains are best source for high quality weapons.

That's the reason why it's a good thing that Nigeria is investing in local production of weapons.

Nigeria can always come south Drones, Gunships, MRAPS............we almost have it all

jln115:
Nigeria can always come south Drones, Gunships, MRAPS............we almost have it all

And you never deliver.

I think we would pass.

kabe1:


And you never deliver.

I think we would pass.

never deliver?? Out defence industry isn't Denel alone bru we ain't in the top 20 arms exporters because of Denel alone....

I mean we never deliver but your soldiers are driving around in Reva MRAPs and near brand new Maruaders?

A partnership with SA would do Nigeria (And Africa) a whole lot of good. If i was President i would pursue for this....Even their attack chopper i would offer partnership with them

kabe1:


And you never deliver.

I think we would pass.

jln115:
Nigeria can always come south Drones, Gunships, MRAPS............we almost have it all

Transfer of technology or we pass .
But honestly though the division between the top players in Africa isn't helping anyone.

kenpaul0:
A partnership with SA would do Nigeria (And Africa) a whole lot of good. If i was President i would pursue for this....Even their attack chopper i would offer partnership with them

No way. We will never do that.

Tomorrow, they would tell us that they gave us weapons technology. Go online and see the hate their people have for Nigeria. Them SA people would go to extreme lengths to undo Nigeria because they want to be Giant of Africa. They never admit our help during the dark arpatheid days. Especially the uneducated ones.

Please, we should NOT ever partner with SA. I would have ignored if not for the visitors reading this thread.

We should partner with China or Russia. They would help us if we ask. Not SA please.

jln115:
never deliver?? Out defence industry isn't Denel alone bru we ain't in the top 20 arms exporters because of Denel alone....

I mean we never deliver but your soldiers are driving around in Reva MRAPs and near brand new Maruaders?

Your defence industry is currently on life support, and you know this.

Most of what is produced by other manufacturers in RSA are mostly MRAPs, there are already 5 different types of MRAPs produced in Nigeria and 3 types are in service.

It's hard to say what strategic gain Nigeria would get from importing South-African arms.

The Reva MRAPs bought in 2015 are all sitting in a bone yard.

With South-African arms,

No Transfer of Technology, No Bueno!!

kenpaul0:
A partnership with SA would do Nigeria (And Africa) a whole lot of good. If i was President i would pursue for this....Even their attack chopper i would offer partnership with them

They only have 9 attack choppers in active service. Even with those Choppers you still are stuck with the Turkish problem. Parts are almost all imported from Europe.

It's just best you buy directly from Europe.

Whyem15:

Transfer is of technology or we pass .
But honestly though the division between the top players in Africa isn't helping anyone.

They should transfer their artillery technology to Nigeria.

DICON Nigeria marketing defence products to the ministry of interior.

We can see ballistic helmet, ballistic bulletproof vests, practice guns, smoke flares and boots, including armour plates.

kabe1:


Your defence industry is currently on life support, and you know this.

Most of what is produced by other manufacturers in RSA are mostly MRAPs, there are already 5 different types of MRAPs produced in Nigeria and 3 types are in service.

It's hard to say what strategic gain Nigeria would get from importing South-African arms.

The Reva MRAPs bought in 2015 are all sitting in a bone yard.

With South-African arms,

No Transfer of Technology, No Bueno!!

As I said before, our arms industry isn't Denel alone. Weapon sales in 2019 was the highest its been since 2012, and Top 20 in the world.................hardly on life support now is it .

What SA exports that Nigeria doesn't make: Missiles, Armed Drones, Attack Helicopters, C4ISR Systems, Grenade Launchers, Howitzers, IFVs ect ect ect

According to Eeben Barlow the REVA mraps preform tremendously well, Its your Big foot mraps from China that didn't do so well

And almost all our latest exports are done with ToT.

kabe1:


They only have 9 attack choppers in active service. Even with those Choppers you still are stuck with the Turkish problem. Parts are almost all imported from Europe.

It's just best you buy directly from Europe.

its 12 operational with 11 in service and 1 with Denels test and development centre .........Also no parts are imported they all are manufactured by Denel.

"Rooivalk Attack Helicopter (AH-2A) is a Denel product. Denel Aeronautics a subsidiary of the Denel is the Design Authority and Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) "

jln115:
its 12 operational with 11 in service and 1 with Denels test and development centre .........Also no parts are imported they all are manufactured by Denel.

"Rooivalk Attack Helicopter (AH-2A) is a Denel product. Denel Aeronautics a subsidiary of the Denel is the Design Authority and Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) "

So you did lose a Rooivalk in accident?

Most of the helicopter parts are imported from Europe.

Yes Denel is the OEM of the Rooivalk, not the OEM of the parts and components used in manufacturing the Rooivalk.

jln115:

As I said before, our arms industry isn't Denel alone. Weapon sales in 2019 was the highest its been since 2012, and Top 20 in the world.................hardly on life support now is it .

What SA exports that Nigeria doesn't make: Missiles, Armed Drones, Attack Helicopters, C4ISR Systems, Grenade Launchers, Howitzers, IFVs ect ect ect

According to Eeben Barlow the REVA mraps preform tremendously well, Its your Big foot mraps from China that didn't do so well

And almost all our latest exports are done with ToT.

The funny thing is the Bigfoot is still in service, while the Reva's are all kept in the bone yards.

Most of the items you listed above are manufactured by Denel. Denel cannot fulfill orders, and have been losing contracts left right and center. In fact the CEO recently resigned his position, just like the previous CEO.

"Denel could not deliver a paltry 6 units of T-5 artilleries to the SANDF, how would they now be able to deliver to Nigeria?".

jln115:



What SA exports that Nigeria doesn't make: Missiles, Armed Drones, Attack Helicopters, C4ISR Systems, Grenade Launchers, Howitzers, IFVs ect ect ect



And almost all our latest exports are done with ToT.

I hold these products of SA in high regard!

Lmao
SA vs Nigeria on this thread, how long has it been

kabe1:


The funny thing is the Bigfoot is still in service, while the Reva's are all kept in the bone yards.

Most of the items you listed above are manufactured by Denel. Denel cannot fulfill orders, and have the losing contracts left right and center. In fact the CEO recently resigned his position, just like the previous CEO.

"Denel could not deliver a paltry 6 units of T-5 artilleries to the SANDF, how would they now be able to deliver to Nigeria?".

Looks like you are struggling to comprehend what I'm saying..... I said Denel isn't the South African arms industry, we have dozens of private arms manufacturers that manufacture drones, airplanes, rifles, MRAPs, IFVs ect ect ect.

Denel hasn't been failing to deliver orders left right and centre as you claim, the only failed delivery was a lose making corrupt deal wrt the 40 Caspirs they would've delivered to Chad.

Also the none delivery of the T5 is not Denel but because of an agreement not being reached between Denel and the Sandf

Lastly source for the bolded please

kabe1:


So you did lose a Rooivalk in accident?

Most of the helicopter parts are imported from Europe.

Yes Denel is the OEM of the Rooivalk, not the OEM of the parts and components used in manufacturing the Rooivalk.

Original Equipment Manufacturer that means they manufacture the parts bru

No SAAF has not lost a Rooivalk as yet.