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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by lebuhsi(m): 6:19pm On Oct 16, 2020
Xbee007:

Tomasz also just confirmed the ambush. ISWAP claim 30 soldiers killed.

Took it's time for this to get out though!

It appears to be an ambush in doksa


A lot of men MIA and KIA

Equipment seized

Tomasz

https://twitter.com/TomaszRolbiecki/status/1317140912829616129?s=19
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by lebuhsi(m): 6:24pm On Oct 16, 2020
It's unfortunate with have to get news of attacks and causality figures from Amaq, even making an effort on damage control from top brass would make a hell of an effort
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by remi1444: 6:43pm On Oct 16, 2020
Is there any rule of engagement that prohibits Armed soldiers from shooting a threat like a protester holding the Nigerian flag?

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by yoged(m): 7:42pm On Oct 16, 2020
arantess:

DonKlericuzio is reporting a platoon missing on twitter

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 7:43pm On Oct 16, 2020
lebuhsi:


Took it's time for this to get out though!

It appears to be an ambush in doksa


A lot of men MIA and KIA

Equipment seized

Tomasz

https://twitter.com/TomaszRolbiecki/status/1317140912829616129?s=19

Honestly, we may lose many more if the Army insist on going ahead with the operation in this season without providing MRAPs and APCs for all soldiers involved. The vegetation is so high that you won't detect an ambush right in front of you.
Sadly SOS expressed his fears about this just few days ago. Check his Instagram page to see how thick and high the vegetation is.
We just want to keep on doing things the same way and expecting different results. Sadly this stupidity costs the lives of heroes.

Not even a scout helicopter to scout ahead of the column.
And to think the offensive hasn't even started cry

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by LTGEN: 8:18pm On Oct 16, 2020
joshingjosh:



grin grin cool
You see them Josh as I am being DRAGGED , the premise of my argument is what happens when SF OPERATIONS GO SPECTACTULARLY WRONG ALL OVER THE WORLD
They on the other hand including" MR NGO " have reduced it to I am comparing NIGERIAN SF TO US SF, They are also comparing body counts 600 to 5-7?
May the souls of all SF who were KIA rest in perfect peace. your watch is over .

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by lebuhsi(m): 8:38pm On Oct 16, 2020
Whyem15:

Honestly, we may lose many more if the Army insist on going ahead with the operation in this season without providing MRAPs and APCs for all soldiers involved. The vegetation is so high that you won't detect an ambush right in front of you.
Sadly SOS expressed his fears about this just few days ago. Check his Instagram page to see how thick and high the vegetation is.
We just want to keep on doing things the same way and expecting different results. Sadly this stupidity costs the lives of heroes.

Not even a scout helicopter to scout ahead of the column.
And to think the offensive hasn't even started cry


A cataclysmic combination, mud, soft skins, No NVGs, no vests, limited CAS, I thought they would wait for the dry season,while the airforce continues to apply pressure

If Dry season comes late, we have from December to May for an all out campaign with added advantage
To be honest, I hope for the best, but i fear the worst

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 8:47pm On Oct 16, 2020
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The army has been silent.... That's how you know the situation is really bad, anyway we are waiting for their report

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 8:53pm On Oct 16, 2020
The military is almost unserious, how will such a no. of men roll out without isr... Even dji drones can do the job..
This guys too just launched their own op. Fireball.
The patrol techinque of our soldiers is alarming... They should stay off road more often..

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 8:55pm On Oct 16, 2020
GeneralFarouq:

The army has been silent.... That's how you know the situation is really bad, anyway we are waiting for their report


Major General Enenche Report will be 300 Bokoharam killed this week.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 9:00pm On Oct 16, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:



Major General Enenche Report will be 300 Bokoharam killed this week.

Lol, guy u no trust them at all, he won't take it that far... Op fireball has not started.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Tobiloba2407: 9:05pm On Oct 16, 2020
remi1444:
Is there any rule of engagement that prohibits Armed soldiers from shooting a threat like a protester holding the Nigerian flag?

Lol, depends on the scenario ooo, if bht holds the flag, i will double tap him, if it protesters and i know there's no stampede scare, i will gas them, not into the crowd, just some meters as a warning, if the crowd is much and none violent, i will handover my firearm, keep my knife in a ready to reach position and use a public address system to address them and appeal, even beg them... if this doesn't work, tear gas, and full magazine into the air.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 9:05pm On Oct 16, 2020
Let's try this again:

All these deadly ambushes are a logical consequence of the "Super Camp Strategy". Here's why:

1) Super Camps naturally lead to giving up ground to the enemy; "what you do not patrol, you do not control".

2) Troops garrisoned in Super Camps have more ground to cover in their patrols; making them more vulnerable to ambushes.

3) The enemy has all the time in the world to build a better intelligence picture to mount its ambushes.

4) The longer distances covered by patrols means more stress on logistics; this creates a vicious cycle as the NA ostensibly gave up its FOBs because of logs challenges.

5) More of the civilian population is left at the mercy of the enemy; more taxes, more witting and unwitting recruits, more supplies and resources etc.

Conclusion:

All of this could've been avoided. Better constructed, better defended and better supplied FOBs.
Super Camps (located on Sector HQs) could have been used to support say 5 FOBs.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 9:23pm On Oct 16, 2020
The Air Task Force of Operation LAFIYA DOLE has neutralized several Islamic State of West Africa Province (ISWAP) elements and destroyed their hideouts at Tudun Wulgo and Tumbun Gini on the fringes of Lake Chad in Borno State. This was achieved through air strikes executed yesterday, 15 October 2020, as part of a new subsidiary Operation, tagged “WUTAR TABKI”, after series of aerial surveillance missions had indicated that the 2 locations, with structures and logistics items camouflaged under the dense vegetation, were being used as staging areas where some ISWAP leaders and their fighters meet to plan and launch attacks.
Accordingly, the Air Task Force dispatched a force package of Nigerian Air Force (NAF) fighter jets and helicopter gunships to engage the 2 locations. The attack aircraft scored devastating hits in the target areas, destroying some structures and neutralizing several of the terrorists.
JOHN ENENCHE

Major General

Coordinator

Defence Media Operations

Defence Headquarters

16 October 2020

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 9:32pm On Oct 16, 2020
GeneralFarouq:

Lol, guy u no trust them at all, he won't take it that far... Op fireball has not started.

Lol I dey Borno na. If Army is going in search of them and killing them we will all know here in Borno. wink
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by FieldMarshall06(m): 11:05pm On Oct 16, 2020
Lurker4Long:
Let's try this again:

All these deadly ambushes are a logical consequence of the "Super Camp Strategy". Here's why:

1) Super Camps naturally lead to giving up ground to the enemy; "what you cannot patrol, you cannot control".

2) Troops based in Super Camps have more ground to cover in their patrols; making them more vulnerable to ambushes.

3) The enemy has all the time in the world to build a better intelligence picture to mount its ambushes.

4) The longer distances covered by patrols means more stress on logistics; this creates a vicious cycle as the NA ostensibly gave up its FOBs because of logs challenges.

5) More of the civilian population is left at the mercy of the enemy; more taxes, more witting and unwitting recruits, more recruits and resources etc.

Conclusion:

All of this could've been avoided. Better constructed, better defended and better supplied FOBs.
Super Camps (located on Sector HQs) could have been used to support say 5 FOBs.

Very very true. But the army will eventually develop a strategy to counter the ambushes. It is a painful learning curve which would eventually help reform the army's doctrine.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by joshingjosh(m): 11:12pm On Oct 16, 2020
LTGEN:

You see them Josh as I am being DRAGGED , the premise of my argument is what happens when SF OPERATIONS GO SPECTACTULARLY WRONG ALL OVER THE WORLD
They on the other hand including" MR NGO " have reduced it to I am comparing NIGERIAN SF TO US SF, They are also comparing body counts 600 to 5-7?
May the souls of all SF who were KIA rest in perfect peace. your watch is over .

Guys let's just end this comparison abeg, it has happened already, let's wish our Own special forces will improve rapidly so that we can compare them proudly..

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 7:59am On Oct 17, 2020
Toju200:
The Air Task Force of Operation LAFIYA DOLE has neutralized several Islamic State of West Africa Province (ISWAP) elements and destroyed their hideouts at Tudun Wulgo and Tumbun Gini on the fringes of Lake Chad in Borno State. This was achieved through air strikes executed yesterday, 15 October 2020, as part of a new subsidiary Operation, tagged “WUTAR TABKI”, after series of aerial surveillance missions had indicated that the 2 locations, with structures and logistics items camouflaged under the dense vegetation, were being used as staging areas where some ISWAP leaders and their fighters meet to plan and launch attacks.
Accordingly, the Air Task Force dispatched a force package of Nigerian Air Force (NAF) fighter jets and helicopter gunships to engage the 2 locations. The attack aircraft scored devastating hits in the target areas, destroying some structures and neutralizing several of the terrorists.
JOHN ENENCHE

Major General

Coordinator

Defence Media Operations

Defence Headquarters

16 October 2020

footage https://twitter.com/DefenceInfoNG/status/1317129341680103425?s=20
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 8:20am On Oct 17, 2020
The Airforce should just hold on for now and conduct a joint massive operation with the Nigeria Army.

Bombings without mop up operations will remain just a scratch on this Insurgents. We need to have boots on ground to send these guys to their creators in high numbers.

We need a joint operation fast in Northern Borno.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 8:23am On Oct 17, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:
The Airforce should just hold on for now and conduct a joint massive operation with the Nigeria Army.

Bombings without mop up operations will remain just a scratch on this Insurgents. We need to have boots on ground to send these guys to their creators in high numbers.

We need a joint operation fast in Northern Borno.
yeah it's very much effective than solo ops..

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Faithful007: 11:52am On Oct 17, 2020
Tobiloba2407:


Lol, depends on the scenario ooo, if bht holds the flag, i will double tap him, if it protesters and i know there's no stampede scare, i will gas them, not into the crowd, just some meters as a warning, if the crowd is much and none violent, i will handover my firearm, keep my knife in a ready to reach position and use a public address system to address them and appeal, even beg them... if this doesn't work, tear gas, and full magazine into the air.
lol. Can you even double tap with an AK? Na two straight misses na. And if you empty your magazine in the air, what next? Just pray and get ready to be lynched.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Faithful007: 11:55am On Oct 17, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:
The Airforce should just hold on for now and conduct a joint massive operation with the Nigeria Army.

Bombings without mop up operations will remain just a scratch on this Insurgents. We need to have boots on ground to send these guys to their creators in high numbers.

We need a joint operation fast in Northern Borno.
these people should not rush into that fireball thingy oh. Make we no hear about mass genocide on the army. Proper planning prevents poor performance.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 11:56am On Oct 17, 2020
Faithful007:
lol. Can you even double tap with an AK? Na two straight misses na.

Missing at point blank range is almost not feasible, even if he is untrained, at single shots a marksman can accurately hit target 300 metres away... But when at full auto... That something else
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Cannonleo(m): 12:53pm On Oct 17, 2020
hunter21:
The special anti robbery squad as outlived it's usefulness thereby leading to by missuse by operatives.
The creation of the Special anti robbery squad was a fire brigade approach adopted during the Goodluck Jonathan administration, it has served its purpose and should be disbanded
What concerns an anti robbery squad with laptops, Iphones and cybercrimes, obviously the unit has been turned into a business outfit. That is bullshit and it would not stand
guy please check your history well

SARS was established in 1992 , calm down on your GEJ rethoric

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 1:14pm On Oct 17, 2020
I heard mobile and internet services have been shutdown in borno

can anyone confirm whether it's true

SamuelAnyawu
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 2:29pm On Oct 17, 2020
How a person go dey compare what happened in Baga with the battle of Abas Ghar just dey funny grin


Four Naval Special Warfare Development Group personnel, tasked for surveillance and reconnaissance of a Taliban group, fell into an ambush by the talibans few hours after inserting into the area.

Baga town, that has not just army personnel alone, they also have navy personnel stationed there with all the weapons they need. They were well armed. ISWAP took the battle to the military personnel in Baga, our military personnel fled and abandoned all their weapons.

ISWAP took over the whole baga, while the military was lying to us that baga is still under the control of the military, till ISWAP started showing us videos and pictures. Even on this thread, someone was still arguing baga has not been taken over grin

There is no way anybody can spin it, they are two different scenarios that have nothing in common.


The Baga situation can be compared with the battle of Wanat.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Tobiloba2407: 3:03pm On Oct 17, 2020
Faithful007:
lol. Can you even double tap with an AK? Na two straight misses na. And if you empty your magazine in the air, what next? Just pray and get ready to be lynched.

Oya, come let's go and test, you will sign first sha
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 6:45pm On Oct 17, 2020
The Nigerian Army says it is set to start its annual exercise “Crocodile Smile” to identify, track and counter negative propaganda in the social media and across the cyberspace.

In a statement, Musa Sagir, army spokesman, said the exercise will begin across the nation from Tuesday.

“This year’s Exercise CROCODILE SMILE V1 is scheduled to commence from the 20th of October to the 31st of December 2020,” Sagir said in a statement.

“The Exercise is deliberately intended to be all encompassing to include cyber warfare exercises designed to identify, track and counter negative propaganda in the social media and across the cyberspace.

“This is the first ever Cyberwarfare exercise to be conducted in the history of the African Armed Forces. Accordingly, the exercise will also include positive identification component aimed at identifying Boko Haram terrorists fleeing from the North East and other parts of the country as a result of the ongoing operations in the various theatres of operations especially in the Northeast, North Central and North Western parts of Nigeria.

“The Nigerian Army, once again, reassures all well meaning Nigerians of its commitment to the sustenance of peace and security in Nigeria and urges members of the public for their support and understanding throughout the period of the exercise.”

THE CABLE

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 6:51pm On Oct 17, 2020
youghs:
I heard mobile and internet services have been shutdown in borno

can anyone confirm whether it's true

SamuelAnyawu


Yes from 9am till 2pm today. It has been restored grin grin Tho I tap through VSAT.

I heard there was a military operation around Maiduguri-Damaturu axis. ISWAP attacked passengers last week after over 2months of not attacking that road.

Looks like ISWAP wanna start that daily attack they were doing on that road three months ago. The Military had to comb that area cool

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Faithful007: 7:36pm On Oct 17, 2020
Tobiloba2407:


Oya, come let's go and test, you will sign first sha
See you, you sure say you know how to shoot gun? If I give you AK put am for semi auto, I will scatter plank on ya head before you even fall me grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 8:26pm On Oct 17, 2020
Faithful007:
See you, you sure say you know how to shoot gun? If I give you AK put am for semi auto, I will scatter plank on ya head before you even fall me grin
grin This thing make me laff gan grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Tobiloba2407: 8:33pm On Oct 17, 2020
Faithful007:
See you, you sure say you know how to shoot gun? If I give you AK put am for semi auto, I will scatter plank on ya head before you even fall me grin

Lol, you win, i no sabi

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