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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by randomperson: 7:50am On Nov 18, 2020 |
Karleb: Is it Messi's fault that Ronaldo was not good enough to make it onto a big team at 13 years old. That's how you know who's the best, one has been making waves since 13, the other had to wait for a few more years ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:53am On Nov 18, 2020 |
Karleb:Sporting are also a big club in Portugal so, your point that Barcelona is a big team doesn't quite cut it...Need I remind you that it is more difficult for a youngster to break through a star studded team. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 8:13am On Nov 18, 2020 |
benji93:Discredit the analogy with points. You can't be king of football from Spain. The kings all meet in the world cup, with different tools, to fight but Messi ghosts. Kings sojourn, to test waters but Messi stays put. A king is different from a governor ( greats like Scholes, Pirlo, Xavi, who are governors of midfield ). A king test waters. Messi is a governor. ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Karleb(m): 8:18am On Nov 18, 2020 |
patrickmuf: Not when you are talented. Messi and Ronaldo broke into Manchester United and Barcelona easily. How big a club is Lisbon compared to United or Barcelona as at then? Just imagine Ronaldo starting his career at Barcelona at 16 and Messi starting his career at Lisbon at 17. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Karleb(m): 8:19am On Nov 18, 2020 |
randomperson: Let me just pretend I didn't read this. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayromWrites: 8:25am On Nov 18, 2020 |
Guys just throwing punches at each other with alternate accounts, make una man up use una moniker joor Ronaldo this, Messi that Las Las, na Ole still be our coach |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by randomperson: 8:35am On Nov 18, 2020 |
Karleb: Yeah, because you have no rebuttal 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 8:39am On Nov 18, 2020 |
randomperson: Imagine....you no even know your personal Lord & saviour well enough
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nezzjnr: 8:58am On Nov 18, 2020 |
This Messi Ronaldo argument should just stop ffs ![]() ![]() Wadup with Facundo Pellistri |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by randomperson: 9:09am On Nov 18, 2020 |
LostMyZeal: What the hello are you talking about? I'm honestly confused 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by delkuf(m): 9:22am On Nov 18, 2020 |
SyIvalord:What about italy. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 9:29am On Nov 18, 2020 |
KingTom:Frauden Hazard. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by delkuf(m): 9:31am On Nov 18, 2020 |
sleekdot:I was tempted to ask him when he start watching a football match. Because he is sounding like the 2000 generation |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:14am On Nov 18, 2020 |
Karleb:The point is that Sporting was and remains one of the biggest club in Portugal so, whatever advantage you think Messi benefited from playing in Barcelona, Ronaldo also had same advantage... 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 10:30am On Nov 18, 2020 |
randomperson: That's good.... now stay that way |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by thorrvik55(m): 10:32am On Nov 18, 2020 |
ericbertrand: Lol.. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Karleb(m): 11:04am On Nov 18, 2020 |
patrickmuf: For argument purposes, do you believe (or agree) that Messi (or Ronaldo) would win a Ballon d'or if he played for Athletico Madrid for 4 years at his prime? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by benji93: 11:30am On Nov 18, 2020 |
I am a Messi fan too, but this argument has a very weak foundation. It doesn't really matter when you started making waves. In the end it's your career against mine. I mean i could be struggling through my formative years, then just explode. So the 13-year-old argument doesn't hold water. randomperson: |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by benji93: 11:31am On Nov 18, 2020 |
Permit me to say this, what kind of bullshit argument is this? ![]() ![]() Karleb: 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by randomperson: 11:51am On Nov 18, 2020 |
benji93: But people use it as a point against Messi. That he had it easy because he started at Barca. They forget that Messi started at Barca because he was already good at 13. So it was not by sheer luck he made it to Barca at that age, so why criticize him for that? 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Karleb(m): 11:57am On Nov 18, 2020 |
benji93: Oga, it's an hypothetical case. Giving an instance. It's common in arguments unless you don't argue much. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Skimpledawg(m): 11:57am On Nov 18, 2020 |
benji93:Na Coulda Woulda Shoulda ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by benji93: 12:09pm On Nov 18, 2020 |
You have the mind to tell me to discredit such a wack analogy? ![]() I am going to say this again, please think deeply about any argument before dumping it on my lap. I usually do my due diligence. Please how far has Ronaldo ever gotten at the world cup? Still, i don't hold that against him. I mean if Higuain had made the most of the chances he had in the 2010 world cup final, we could be talking about something else, perhaps you would be finding another excuse. ![]() This GOAT debate will never be resolved fully, only that one person will have a majority of the GOAT vote, most probably less than 50% self. Pele won 3 world cups, but many will argue he never played in the most competitive league, which doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't the best. Some could say he played in Brazil most of his life. On your governor/king argument. The last time i checked the reign of kings is long past. Their power pales in comparison to that of the governors. You don't have to look too far for evidence. It's right there in that country called Nigeria. ![]() odizeey: 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by benji93: 12:12pm On Nov 18, 2020 |
True. But you don't have to start arguing along the same lines. But well if you had opined that as a way to tell them their argument is bullshit, then that's fair game, I can accept that. ![]() ![]() randomperson: 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by benji93: 12:21pm On Nov 18, 2020 |
Yes i know, but it's not a reasonable one. I mean there are a lot of variables you are not considering. You are assuming if Messi was playing for Athletico, he would be the only thing that changes. Maybe Simeone won't be their coach. Maybe we never see Godin in an Athletico shirt. Maybe we never see Griezmann in an Athletico shirt and so on and so forth. You see you need to consider as many variables as possible. And if you do, the thought of it would tire you. Karleb: |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 12:24pm On Nov 18, 2020 |
benji93:You just typed long lines of paragraphs. Kings conquer territories. Simple. End of discussion. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 12:26pm On Nov 18, 2020 |
Karleb:I don't really understand some people. You counter arguments not saying things are bullshît You would think these ones saying bullshît bull piss are silicon valley giants. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Karleb(m): 12:37pm On Nov 18, 2020 |
benji93: The instance was not meant for Messi alone. I included Ronaldo. Bottom line is, Messi benefited a lot for joining Barcelona the same way Ronaldo benefited from joining Manchester united. Saying Messi is better because he's two years younger than Ronaldo while not factoring in the the age they started first team football and the clubs they started with is not a valid line of argument. A Messi minion might enjoy that but it's not valid. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by benji93: 12:43pm On Nov 18, 2020 |
Saying he's better cos he's two years younger by itself is not a sound argument. If it's a projection, as in cos he's two years younger he would have topped Ronaldo in most statistical categories at the same age. But well it may never happen. His decline could be slow, and so ensures the prediction would come true. Karleb: |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 12:59pm On Nov 18, 2020 |
Wetin dey occur for here na ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 1:00pm On Nov 18, 2020 |
You can't change anybody's mind about Ronaldo and Messi Just die the matter ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Neymar1095(m): 1:12pm On Nov 18, 2020 |
Melvyn11:Biggest fraud of the 21st century. No wonder since the decline of Iniesta and Xavi Barca has been getting disgraced regularly in the Champions league. 4 Likes |
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