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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 9:25pm On Nov 18, 2020
Kane dey play ball abeg
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 9:27pm On Nov 18, 2020
elrony:
Larride rest please, it's becoming an eyesore even if it ain't how you may feel your narrative is being projected... Damn, thing is doing my head in.

Innocent people died FFS.

What’s an eyesore?

That the goal should be to get justice for those that are dead? What exactly is an eyesore?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 9:27pm On Nov 18, 2020
elrony:


The sons of the prophets have fallen to the wiles of Otem.

You have led em all astray, hand of Beelzebub. angry
Odizeey learnt from you.

That young prophet has eaten from the table of Otem and her hordes.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 9:28pm On Nov 18, 2020
elrony:


You no see the akpuruka 5-3-2 condensed formation them dey play sef? Southdoor feeling like Cryuff right nowcheesy cheesy
Southgate na fowl.

He see Belgium he no win
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 9:29pm On Nov 18, 2020
larride:


E.g Femi Falana

When he was interviewed about the Lekki toll gate incident, he said the family of those that were massacred by the army that night are afraid to come out.

Now we have confirmed case of death at that location, he’s a human rights activist, why is he not actively trying to get justice for those dead already?

Larride, you're starting to sound somehow with what you just typed, but let's leave it at that

I'm more concerned about how you have totally shifted the blame of the Massacre rumors from the government to the people. Now let me give a breakdown of the events on that day, and tell me why the people shouldn't believe a massacre happened, or even if it didn't, why the government shouldn't be blamed

-Sanwo-olu imposed a curfew at 4pm but shifted it to 8pm
- The NA arrived at the Toll gate before 8pm and starting shooting (You and I agree to this)
-The LASG came online around 10pm and denied the event, promising to investigate
-Sanwo olu came the next morning stating that he never ordered the Army to do so
-The NA gave three conflicting reports that the video was fake, and then it was photoshopped, and then they were instructed by Sanwo-olu to do that, and then again, it was blanks that was fired

All what I typed up there are all in Nairaland to see. It's devoid of eye witnesses and rumours

So how do you expect people to just believe that nothing happened, when the government itself has given enough reasons for anyone to believe it happened

Like I said, my worries are not whether the massacre is a lie or not. It's about how people with the same thoughts as you quickly jump to debunk it like that's the main issue.

The government was not plain and sincere from the beginning. You should spend more time talking about that

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 9:33pm On Nov 18, 2020
Mount, Foden, Rice the future of England's midfield and with the way Grealish is playing Dr MBE Rashford fit no set foot as starting LW for England o

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 9:37pm On Nov 18, 2020
As it stands, Italy and Belgium are joining Spain and France in be finals.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 9:41pm On Nov 18, 2020
BlueMann:
Aswr na attack Maguire dey play grin
make OGS push am go holding midfield e fit dey useful for der, dey push him attack dey go

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 9:57pm On Nov 18, 2020
Lukaku scores


Mad goal
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 9:59pm On Nov 18, 2020
Red card for Iceland
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:03pm On Nov 18, 2020
izzou:


Larride, you're starting to sound somehow with what you just typed, but let's leave it at that

I'm more concerned about how you have totally shifted the blame of the Massacre rumors from the government to the people. Now let me give a breakdown of the events on that day, and tell me why the people shouldn't believe a massacre happened, or even if it didn't, why the government shouldn't be blamed

-Sanwo-olu imposed a curfew at 4pm but shifted it to 8pm
- The NA arrived at the Toll gate before 8pm and starting shooting (You and I agree to this)
-The LASG came online around 10pm and denied the event, promising to investigate
-Sanwo olu came the next morning stating that he never ordered the Army to do so
-The NA gave three conflicting reports that the video was fake, and then it was photoshopped, and then they were instructed by Sanwo-olu to do that, and then again, it was blanks that was fired

All what I typed up there are all in Nairaland to see. It's devoid of eye witnesses and rumours

So how do you expect people to just believe that nothing happened, when the government itself has given enough reasons for anyone to believe it happened

Like I said, my worries are not whether the massacre is a lie or not. It's about how people with the same thoughts as you quickly jump to debunk it like that's the main issue.

The government was not plain and sincere from the beginning. You should spend more time talking about that

I don’t know if most times you guy read another post and then think I’m the one that write the post and then respond back to me.

Maybe you need to go and read all my post on this subject matter from the beginning to the end before you start drawing inference that doesn’t correlate.

It’s even laughable the way you skip pass my answer to your question to start talking about what government said or has not said. As if that’s the bone of contention.

As at today 11/18/2020, it is easy to prove human rights violations against the Nigerian Army than trying to prove they committed massacre at Lekki tollgate. There are no evidence to prove a massacre happened.

The fact is Soldiers were at the Lekki tollgate, soldiers opened fire and there are 2 confirmed death and several injured. It is that human rights violation angle that the Lagos State Judicial panel should be focusing on so as to get justice for those that died and compensation for those that were injured but rather we are trying to prove that a massacre happened or not.

If I still have to break this down for you, maybe you should tell me your local language and I should post in it because I don’t understand what’s hard to understand in my post.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 10:09pm On Nov 18, 2020
larride:


I don’t know if most times you guy read another post and then think I’m the one that write the post and then respond back to me.

Maybe you need to go and read all my post on this subject matter from the beginning to the end before you start drawing inference that doesn’t correlate.

It’s even laughable the way you skip pass my answer to your question to start talking about what government said or has not said. As if that’s the bone of contention.

As at today 11/18/2020, it is easy to prove human rights violations against the Nigerian Army than trying to prove they committed massacre at Lekki tollgate. There are no evidence to prove a massacre happened.

The fact is Soldiers were at the Lekki tollgate, soldiers opened fire and there are 2 confirmed death and several injured. It is that human rights violation angle that the Lagos State Judicial panel should be focusing on so as to get justice for those that died and compensation for those that were injured but rather we are trying to prove that a massacre happened or not.

If I still have to break this down for you, maybe you should tell me your local language and I should post in it because I don’t understand what’s hard to understand in my post.

Everybody opposing you are talking about the violation of human rights and the massacre..

You have totally avoided talking about any other thing, and defended the massacre claim like your last breath depends on it

Take it easy sir. That's why some of us see your comments as weird.. It's not that we don't understand the English you're typing

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:11pm On Nov 18, 2020
This Iceland is the European version of Burundi.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Odunharry(m): 10:12pm On Nov 18, 2020
BlueAngel444:
The 10 best playmakers in the world according to FourFourTwo:

10. Jack Grealish
9. Christian Eriksen
8. Martin Odegaard
7. Giovanni Reyna
6. Papu Gomez
5. Kai Havertz
4. Bruno Fernandes
3. James Rodriguez
2. Kevin De Bruyne
1. Thomas Muller



Who is Papu Gomez?
The wizard and capitano Atalanta
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 10:22pm On Nov 18, 2020
Magwaya comfortably playing AM in this game


grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 10:35pm On Nov 18, 2020
Foden is a baller
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MorataFC: 10:50pm On Nov 18, 2020
Skimpledawg:
This Iceland team is piss poor.
This is not the Iceland that play in euro 2016
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 10:53pm On Nov 18, 2020
airmark:
This Iceland is the European version of Burundi.

cheesy

No point at all in six games.

Dem be awoof, giving three points to everybody.


Awon Cheerful givers. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by biomustry: 10:56pm On Nov 18, 2020
Neobulletzz:

Maicon for Mourinho’s all time XI?
Yes

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 10:57pm On Nov 18, 2020
BlueMann:


cheesy

No point at all in six games.

Dem be awoof, giving three points to everybody.


Awon Cheerful givers. grin

grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 11:35pm On Nov 18, 2020
It is actually very difficult to cover-up a massacre...... even the one done in remote desert or forest.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by EarlRagnar2(m): 11:39pm On Nov 18, 2020
Elnino4ladies:
It is actually very difficult to cover-up a massacre...... even the one done in remote desert or forest.
What will you call shite killing that happened?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 11:59pm On Nov 18, 2020
EarlRagnar2:
What will you call shite killing that happened?

At least there bodies were found. Only an ignoramus will call what happened at lekki a massacre... I wonder why nobody is talking about Oyingbo

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by tng(f): 12:01am On Nov 19, 2020
larride:


Maybe you should watch the video again. The lady clearly said the soldiers were shooting sporadically into the air. She said it twice.

She also said they shot for more than 20mins and they left the scene after about 30mins later.

All other account of the event said the army came and started shooting at protesters. What with the bbc reporter said she witness, we can say those other account is a lie and what she said tally with what the General said at the Judicial panel.

They didn’t spend few mins there, they spent almost half of the time the military spent there and she confirmed they were shooting in the air. Nowhere in that almost 5mins video did she remotely say the military shoot directly at people.

For emphasis, I will say it again that she said it TWICE that the soldiers were shooting in the air.

Like I said earlier, nothing will change your view that no massacre happened and that’s ok. You are free to hold whatever opinion you like. Truth is fact doesn’t support any claim that massacre happened.

So what exactly is your point/issue? The word massacre? Either way shooting sporadically or at protesters, it shouldn't happen in a country with sane people or leaders. The punishment for defying a curfew is not death. And that should be rightfully condemned not this gymnastics of massacre or not.
Besides our military are versed in telling lies about their actions against civilians so you cant blame anyone not towing the government line.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by tng(f): 12:06am On Nov 19, 2020
larride:


DJ switch account is not the only account of what happened that night and moreover DJ switch has contradicting herself severally.

She first claimed more than 72 people were killed
, then she claimed 12 people were killed then she claimed she’s not sure of the total number of people killed but she singlehandedly carried 7 dead bodies and dropped it at the feet of the soldiers? Which account exactly do you want me to believe?

Meanwhile there’s another eye witness account who actually carried people to the hospital who claimed he didn’t see any bodies and he only evacuated those injured to the hospital.

Let me make my point very clear. The event of Oct 20 (whether Army shot to the air or not) is enough ground to accuse the army of abuse of human rights violations without exaggerations.

Govt are experts in using subterfuge and you cannot use lies to push truth. What govt does is attack the lies and in one full scope label both the lies and the truth fake news. There was no need to claim a massacre happened when there was no evidence of it. The arrays of pics of the supposed massacre that littered social media that night and the following morning were debunked to be fake news and thus the govt got the perfect cover to shift the focus away from the human rights violation to the authenticity or otherwise of the various claims arising.

That’s what I and Ibime have been trying to point out to you. Now the Lagos State Judicial panel of inquiry has shifted focus to the event of the Lekki tollgate and most of it is trying to prove whether a massacre happened or not and at the end of the day if it was later confirmed that no massacre took place, the military would have shifted the focus away from their officers involved in the shootings.

If you refer back to the discussion I had with airmark on the night of the shootings, I told air.mark that I believe the army were at the scene of the shootings and for a military that has several records of human rights abuse, it doesn’t need to add exaggeration to nail them but now they have the perfect cover to escape “human rights violations” against its officers. (That’s if they are not found guilty).


Meanwhile injecting party and loyalty whatever into your argument every now and then doesn’t make you smart or more logical.

Cheers.

@ the bolded. FTR, she refuted this in two separate videos - one on IG and the other to the Canadian parliament.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 12:48am On Nov 19, 2020
afrodoc2:


Mikel is the player whose destiny was most affected by Mourinho. When you compare Under-17 and Under-21 Mikel to the risk averse version that Mourinho molded it is a travesty.

Truth. And that was what he was wanting from Kdb that didn't work out.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Neobulletzz(m): 12:57am On Nov 19, 2020
biomustry:

Yes
Maicon for who? Who would you remove?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 3:59am On Nov 19, 2020
afrodoc2:


Mikel is the player whose destiny was most affected by Mourinho. When you compare Under-17 and Under-21 Mikel to the risk averse version that Mourinho molded it is a travesty.

I've said it a million times and will say it again but some still disagree.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 4:01am On Nov 19, 2020
airmark:
This Iceland is the European version of Burundi.
What is the point of this Nations league sef?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 4:05am On Nov 19, 2020
Kante (triple clone him already) and Mason need a rest after this international break but we shall see.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 4:17am On Nov 19, 2020
Skimpledawg:

Odizeey learnt from you.

That young prophet has eaten from the table of Otem and her hordes.

cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Obere4u: 7:21am On Nov 19, 2020
Please, anyone here living in Finland or knows anything about schooling/working in Finland and how much it will cost to get a Finland visa.
Please I need answers.
Thank you

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