Sniper4real:


Greenwood and rashford are tall to some extent, but do they have jump power and can they nod effectively

Let them put in good balls first before we start complaining about our forwards...

Before his injury, Shaw recorded 2 assist or thereabout and that's down to the quality of the delivery even though the one is the UCL was bad but that Cross for Bruno against Everton was inch perfect.

Mrviktor:
Dan James pull out game for Wales is magnificent..

Both on left and right flank.. I don't know why he can't cross when it comes to club game..

And we have tall strikers.
Greenwood nd Rashford are y'all enough oh..
Add matic nd mactominay in there too

He's always had good pull out Na. Remember the first few games he played when he first came to the club last season. So it's not surprising.

schurley:


According to their goal per minutes, Ronaldo outscored Messi both Laliga and Cl competition for the entire 9 years in spent in the Canaan land (flowing with milk and honey)

Messi played deeper than Ronaldo during his time in spain. In fact, messi was usually the main playmaker of his team.

Maybe that's why you are ignoring assists?

benji93:
Oh my oh my, what kind of bullshit stat is this? Very disingenuous. Earlier you put forward a stat that considered 476 and 438 games for Messi and Ronaldo repsectively, but now you carefully selected 101 games to create a semblance of a higher number of assists. .You no go take laugh kill me. Let me help you out. In the number of games mentioned above they had 176 and 119 assists respectively. I'll let you do the ratio yourself. . Wetin pain me pass be say you no get shame to post that stat.Ah. . You no try at all. Sorry for going through all the trouble of carefully selecting that stat.

Anything that make your prick erect

Ronaldo is the undisputed goat

BlueAngel444:
Mane (or Son) and Pulisic (wouldn't want to have two 28year old wingers)

You are being unfair to Sterling that has been dominating the premier for some years

schurley:


Anything that make your prick erect

Ronaldo is the undisputed goat

For your mind... anything that makes it sleep at night

6 ballon d'or, 6 fifa world best, 6 golden boots.... we're clear!!

randomperson:


Messi played deeper than Ronaldo during his time in spain. In fact, messi was usually the main playmaker of his team.

Maybe that's why you are ignoring assists?

so Messi that forced Eto, Henry, Villa and Zlatan to the wings was really a playmaker in that team? I guess Xavi and Iniesta were strikers then.

patrickmuf:
Mane and Son because they are far more effective (Talking about numbers and the fact that they can play anywhere across the front line without a drop in quality)

If Grealish was to be in that Liverpool team don't you think his stats will be decent, Aston Villa was piss poor last, the reason for his poverty stricken no, for Instance Ben Chilwell as equal is goal and assist tally of last season in just 6 or 7 games, if Grealish is in an attack dominant team his numbers will be robust nd rotund

shedo4sure:
so Messi that forced Eto, Henry, Villa and Zlatan to the wings was really a playmaker in that team? I guess Xavi and Iniesta were strikers then.

Do you know the meaning of false nine?

And you are still avoiding the issue of assists. I wonder why

I just remembered Eric Bailey is still at Manchester United lol

Melvyn11:

All Messi does in the Champions league is stat pad in the group stage and Round of 16. His goal record from the quarter final to final stage is poverty stricken so I am not surprised.

The difference is clear.

benji93:
Oh my oh my, what kind of bullshit stat is this? Very disingenuous. Earlier you put forward a stat that considered 476 and 438 games for Messi and Ronaldo repsectively, but now you carefully selected 101 games to create a semblance of a higher number of assists. .You no go take laugh kill me. Let me help you out. In the number of games mentioned above they had 176 and 119 assists respectively. I'll let you do the ratio yourself. . Wetin pain me pass be say you no get shame to post that stat.Ah. . You no try at all. Sorry for going through all the trouble of carefully selecting that stat.

Bollocks. Messi has enjoyed playing with better players all through his career than Ronaldo. Add in that factor. Put Ronaldo in that Barca side and he will shatter all football record.

schurley:


If Grealish was to be in that Liverpool team don't you think his stats will be decent, Aston Villa was piss poor last, the reason for his poverty stricken no, for Instance Ben Chilwell as equal is goal and assist tally of last season in just 6 or 7 games, if Grealish is in an attack dominant team his numbers will be robust nd rotund

Well, you never can tell...By next summer, I expect him to make the move.

Kholiwe:

Bollocks. Messi has enjoyed playing with better players all through his career than Ronaldo. Add in that factor. Put Ronaldo in that Barca side and he will shatter all football record.

Ronaldo will be able to play as a false 9 in a tiki taka side? Passing and dribbling in small spaces? That's patently false...

And besides, Ronaldo has had better managers. Ferguson, Mourinho, Ancelotti, Benitez have all won the champions league without Ronaldo. None of Messi's managers have won the UCL without him

randomperson:



Ronaldo will be able to play as a false 9 in a tiki taka side? Passing and dribbling in small spaces? That's patently false...

And besides, Ronaldo has had better managers. Ferguson, Mourinho, Ancelotti, Benitez have all won the champions league without Ronaldo. None of Messi's managers have won the UCL without him

Ronaldo in that Barca team will demolish all goal records keep quiet and Messi has played with the better players,same system and a more stable team all through their respective career.

Kholiwe:

Ronaldo in that Barca team will demolish all goal records keep quiet and Messi has played with the better players,same system and a more stable team all through their respective career.

Why are you avoiding my argument?

1. Ronaldo couldn't have played Messi's role in that team

2. Ronaldo has had better coaches and managers. Do you agree?

randomperson:


Why are you avoiding my argument?

1. Ronaldo couldn't have played Messi's role in that team

2. Ronaldo has had better coaches and managers. Do you agree?

They've both had good and horrible managers.


The last good coach Messi had was Enrique the last one Ronaldo had was Allegri.

randomperson:


Why are you avoiding my argument?

1. Ronaldo couldn't have played Messi's role in that team

2. Ronaldo has had better coaches and managers. Do you agree?

1 I don't care about your argument neither did I tell you about Messi role

2 Ronaldo in that all conquering Barca team will demolish all football goal records. David Villa was enjoying such benefits when playing for Spain and banging In goals on a regular and he is not up to Ronaldo toe nails.

3 Messi had enjoyed playing with the better players,Same club,same system and a stable team through out his career more than Ronaldo.

shedo4sure:
so Messi that forced Eto, Henry, Villa and Zlatan to the wings was really a playmaker in that team? I guess Xavi and Iniesta were strikers then.

Any agenda to fit their narrative

randomperson:


Do you know the meaning of false nine?

And you are still avoiding the issue of assists. I wonder why

He is register, deep lying sweeping ghen ghen artificial striker

patrickmuf:
Well, you never can tell...By next summer, I expect him to make the move.

That contract he signed may make it hard for him to leave, cos those guys would want to cash out big in the essence of 100 milli plus

randomperson:


Why are you avoiding my argument?

1. Ronaldo couldn't have played Messi's role in that team

2. Ronaldo has had better coaches and managers. Do you agree?

So better coach now equates better players

Kholiwe:

1 I don't care about your argument neither did I tell you about Messi role

2 Ronaldo in that all conquering Barca team will demolish all football goal records. David Villa was enjoying such benefits when playing for Spain and banging In goals on a regular and he is not up to Ronaldo toe nails.

3 Messi had enjoyed playing with the better players,Same club,same system and a stable team through out his career more than Ronaldo.

I have said it before Spain success without Messi shows that Barca team would have been as successful with or without Messi. Messi failures with Argentina even proves that further. Stick a world class goalscorer like Ronaldo in that barca team instead of Messi like Spain did with Villa /Torres and nothing would have changed. They would still dominate and win trophies.

Kholiwe:

1 I don't care about your argument neither did I tell you about Messi role

2 Ronaldo in that all conquering Barca team will demolish all football goal records. David Villa was enjoying such benefits when playing for Spain and banging In goals on a regular and he is not up to Ronaldo toe nails.

3 Messi had enjoyed playing with the better players,Same club,same system and a stable team through out his career more than Ronaldo.

If you raise this issue, they will say he have scored all the biggest team England yen yen, why is he struggling in the NT side, scoring paltry of over 30+ competitive goal for Argentina, amassing a huge chunk from playing friendly with Bolivia nd co.

Messi issa huge fraud no one can change my mind.

Melvyn11:

I have said it before Spain success without Messi shows that Barca team would have been as successful with or without Messi. Messi failures with Argentina even proves that further. Stick a world class goalscorer like Ronaldo in that barca team instead of Messi like Spain did with Villa /Torres and nothing would have changed. They would still dominate and win trophies.

Even Lukaku will fair well there.

Imagine Suarez numbers in a short while there despite not playing with them in their golden era

Kholiwe:

The difference is clear.

Over 114 champions league goals but only 20goals from the quarter final to final stage. A whopping 94goals scored in the group stage and Round of 16. What a joke stat padding in useless matches and disappearing in the tougher matches. Messi is a big time fraud.

Karleb:


They've both had good and horrible managers.


The last good coach Messi had was Enrique the last one Ronaldo had was Allegri.

Lol.... this is dishonest.

Ronaldo has had Ferguson, Mourinho, Ancelloti, Benitez, Allegri, Sarri, Zidane, Pellegrini. That's 8 coaches who have won major trophies without Ronaldo. 4 of them won the UCL without him.

Messi has had Rijkaard, Pep, Enrique, Vilalnova, Martino, Valverde, Setien and Koeman. Only a few of them have won major trophies without him. While none of won champions league without him.

The gap between both group of managers is extremely wide.

Melvyn11:

I have said it before Spain success without Messi shows that Barca team would have been as successful with or without Messi. Messi failures with Argentina even proves that further. Stick a world class goalscorer like Ronaldo in that barca team instead of Messi like Spain did with Villa /Torres and nothing would have changed. They would still dominate and win trophies.

True Though. It's not a coincidence that once Xavi and Iniesta left, as well as Alves and a declining bosquest, Barca started declining despite Messi being available in the team. Those guys are the ones doing the Job while Messi gets the praise. Even though it doesn't take away how good Messi is, but he wasn't the one making the team tick.

Despite every expensive idiots Barca bought after, they still couldn't come close to what those guys I mentioned did to maintain that quality

Melvyn11:

I have said it before Spain success without Messi shows that Barca team would have been as successful with or without Messi. Messi failures with Argentina even proves that further. Stick a world class goalscorer like Ronaldo in that barca team instead of Messi like Spain did with Villa /Torres and nothing would have changed. They would still dominate and win trophies.

Facts only

schurley:


So better coach now equates better players

A good coach can make even slightly good or average players play like world class. Ferguson did it consistently with Man utd. Having a good manager helps a player to play at his best.

Melvyn11:

Over 114 champions league goals but only 20goals from the quarter final to final stage. A whopping 94goals scored in the group stage and Round of 16. What a joke stat padding in useless matches and disappearing in the tougher matches. Messi is a big time fraud.

It's a freaking disgrace

Kholiwe:

1 I don't care about your argument neither did I tell you about Messi role

2 Ronaldo in that all conquering Barca team will demolish all football goal records. David Villa was enjoying such benefits when playing for Spain and banging In goals on a regular and he is not up to Ronaldo toe nails.

3 Messi had enjoyed playing with the better players,Same club,same system and a stable team through out his career more than Ronaldo.

Yeah, Ozil, Alonso, Rooney, Scholes, Kroos and Modric are average players.

If Messi benefited from having better players, Ronaldi benefited from having better managers