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Re: How Did God Make Himself by Nobody: 7:41pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: Primordial forces created God.....and Anti-God. How can he create himself?!!! Primordial forces are eternal, spaceless, timeless, and immaterially essential. They are the uncreated energy that permeate existence. |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by shadeyinka(m): 8:04pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:Indeed I posted you in error. Your were dealing with Bacteriologist: You were quoting him for demanding an evidence for God as a change in goalpost. So sorry bro! |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by Dtruthspeaker: 8:09pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
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Re: How Did God Make Himself by shadeyinka(m): 8:09pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
Martian:A force cannot self exist. A force ALWAYS require a source. How can a force create God when it cannot self exist. If you know any kind of force that can survive without a source, you might want to give me an example. |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by shadeyinka(m): 8:16pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:LOL! I actually don't hate them cause I know that they are demonized. Unfortunately, a baby Christian looks at their argument and think they make sense. I only show them that even without the scripture, by simple LOGIC and elementary DEDUCTIONS, their fallacy is made bare. Whenever their logic is confounded, they resort to riotous mocking and stupid questions to which they dont even have an answer. Shalom |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by shadeyinka(m): 8:18pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
kingxsamz:A COMPOUND FOOL is he who claims as true what he doesn't believe! |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by shadeyinka(m): 8:21pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
kingxsamz:A COMPOUND FOOL is he who claims as true what he doesn't believe: Isn't it? |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by LordTheus(m): 8:24pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
shadeyinka:Why do you seem so convinced that he doesn't believe what he says? 3 Likes |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by shadeyinka(m): 8:33pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
LordTheus:Then he should come out to truly say with affirmation that he believes what he had said: then, he'll not be a compound fool but one speaking from his conviction. |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by LordTheus(m): 8:44pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
shadeyinka:If you choose to believe in outlandish shit, I don't think "speaking from your conviction" can make you any less of a "compound fool". Then again, I don't know what qualifies someone to be a "compound fool" for you 3 Likes |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by shadeyinka(m): 8:47pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
LordTheus:Then he is a COMPOUND FOOL for believing what he knows is not true |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by kingxsamz(m): 9:00pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
shadeyinka: My own Uncaused first cause is a white transgendered lesbian... Why do you have a problem with that? ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by LordTheus(m): 9:07pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
shadeyinka:If you know something is true, is there still any need to "believe"? I mean, I'm sure that to "know" and to "believe" are two separate concepts. You believe Yahweh exists, but do you know that he exists? 3 Likes |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by Nobody: 9:10pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
shadeyinka: The forces are spaceless and timeless, therefore uncaused. They do not require a source as they are the uncaused source. They are self existent and self sustaining. The primordial creative forces survive and thrive in their self contained nature independent of a source. They are eternal. 2 Likes |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by RALPHOW(m): 9:11pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
We are just like an ANT before God, Can you imagine ANTS asking you such question who created you? before obey your instruction It's non of ANTS Business, With your finger or toes you can squeeze life out of the ant. |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by Nobody: 9:20pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
RALPHOW: In that same vein, can an ant fathom a human mind? Imagine a human understanding the mind of a “god”. Even if gods exist, man can’t have a relationship with a god just like an an ant can’t have a relationship with man. Talkless of the potential disparity between man and god being greater than the disparity between ant and man. 1 Like |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by shadeyinka(m): 10:32pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
LordTheus:If you know something to be false, then you must be a fool believe it is true.! There is a difference between knowing and believing. My statement is still very true. Then he is a COMPOUND FOOL for believing what he knows is not true! Believe: 1. to have confidence in the truth, the existence, or the reliability of something, although without absolute proof that one is right in doing so: 2. to have confidence or faith in the truth of (a positive assertion, story, etc.); give credence to. to have confidence in the assertions of (a person). 3. to have a conviction that (a person or thing) is, has been, or will be engaged in a given action or involved in a given situation: 4. to suppose or assume; understand 5. to be persuaded of the truth or existence of: 6. to have faith in the reliability, honesty, benevolence, etc., of: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/believe Know: 1. to perceive or understand as fact or truth; to apprehend clearly and with certainty: 2. to have established or fixed in the mind or memory: 3. to be cognizant or aware of: 4.. to have knowledge or clear and certain perception, as of fact or truth. 5. to be cognizant or aware, as of some fact, circumstance, or occurrence; have information, as about something. 6. the fact or state of knowing; knowledge. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/know Only a fool will believe what he knows is NOT true. Let me give you an example: I believe I can solve the mathematics question is not the same as I know I can solve the mathematics question. but BOTH could be true statements Note: Believe is based on my inadequacy of comprehension of the SUBJECT Knowing is based on my adequacy of comprehension of the SUBJECT Both statements may be a true statement of FACT and is independent of the TRUE NATURE of the Subject Your Question: You believe Yahweh exists, but do you know that he exists? I know Yahweh Exists, but I don't have an adequate comprehension of Him so, I have the right to believe based on MY FRAILTIES. In other words, I have enough information and knowledge about GOD to believe. So, in plain words, "I KNOW Yahweh exists, but I DO not Have all the Knowledge to claim GNOSIS of Him" Everything that can be described in PHYSICAL Terms could be Completely KNOWN Anything that cannot be completely described in PHYSICAL terms can not be Completely KNOWN. A question for you: Is it possible to believe in SOMETHING without having some form of knowledge of that THING? 1 Like |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by Nobody: 10:35pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
shadeyinka:Since EVERYTHING is actually SOMETHING/a group of things, "The Theory of Uncaused Causes" is wrong because it's actually impossible for SOMETHING to exist alongside NOTHING!!!!!!! In other words, SOMETHING can only exist alongside SOMETHING else!!!!!!! It's impossible for NOTHING to exist because ANYTHING can exist in infinite forms!!!!!!! Therefore,we can also define ANYTHING as 'SOMETHING always alongside SOMETHING else'!!!!! |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by shadeyinka(m): 10:37pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
Martian:I wish you can give an example of a single force that fulfils this characteristic of not having a SOURCE. Secondly, you have a contradiction: Forces are inanimate, unintelligent and unconscious therefore, they cannot become a living being. If they are, then they are God and could not have created God |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by Nobody: 10:39pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
shadeyinka:Stop the unnecessary extension of grammar!!!!! It's impossible for NOTHING to exist!!!!!! 1 Like |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by shadeyinka(m): 10:45pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
kingxsamz:If that's your believe and it is a true statement from you, then there is no problem (you have only expressed your inadequacy) However If that's your believe and it is NOT a true statement from you, then you are a COMPOUND FOOL! Conversely, If you do not believe a white transgendered lesbian is the creator and this is a true statement from you,(you have only expressed yourself to the limit of your knowledge), hence there is no problem |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by Nobody: 10:48pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
shadeyinka:The source of a force is the object which exerts the force or the field surrounding an object!!!!!!! But the object is a group of particles that can't exist alongside NOTHING!!!!!!!! Time is just a quantity of the living things's exposure to SOMETHING else!!!!! Time lasts for as long as an exposure lasts!!!!!! But it's still impossible for NOTHING to exist!!!!! |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by shadeyinka(m): 10:57pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
LordTheus:We do not share the same knowledge and experience. Its a free world to choose what to believe. There was a time when an atom was thought of as the smallest indivisible part of an element (now, we know that atoms consist of electrons, neutrons, protons and several sub atomic particles): are you saying that those scientists that used to believe this are FOOLS!? However, any scientist with this knowledge that atoms consists of electrons, neutrons, protons and several sub atomic particles and still believe that atoms are the smallest indivisible part of an element is a COMPOUND FOOL! |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by shadeyinka(m): 10:59pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
kingxsamz:If that's your believe and it is a true statement from you, then there is no problem (you have only expressed your inadequacy) However If that's your believe and it is NOT a true statement from you, then you are a COMPOUND FOOL! Conversely, If you do not believe a white transgendered lesbian is the creator and this is a true statement from you,(you have only expressed yourself to the limit of your knowledge), hence there is no problem |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by kingxsamz(m): 11:08pm On Nov 25, 2020 |
shadeyinka: Why are you stressing over this and why do you keep capitalizing the "compound fool" like it makes your point valid? You believe your own is a 60 year old white bearded male while I believe mine to be a white transgendered lesbian, Bacteriologist believes it's a unicorn. Why my own con dey give you headache? Nawa. 2 Likes |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by Image123(m): 2:45am On Nov 26, 2020 |
Bacteriologist: How did you come to the conclusion that God is not the actual one? |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by Image123(m): 2:47am On Nov 26, 2020 |
kingxsamz: Lol @d hypocrite. When you do same, it's not running away, is it? |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by Image123(m): 2:49am On Nov 26, 2020 |
Bacteriologist: All rules cannot apply to everyone. E.g there are rules for foreigners that don't apply to locals or citizens. Are you okay with that, or it's unfair and unreasonable? |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by Image123(m): 2:54am On Nov 26, 2020 |
kingxsamz: You are no different from the president who doesn't know the technology behind the video evidence, lol. You are becoming 'smart' from being a baby atheist though, you saw the checkmate in front. Welcome to the criminal life of the atheist. |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by Image123(m): 3:02am On Nov 26, 2020 |
kingxsamz: The Spaghetti should justify the position na, you cannot just dump power on Spaghetti like Goodluck Jonathan. Bring up the able and prepared God who says He is who He is (I am) |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by shadeyinka(m): 4:39am On Nov 26, 2020 |
kingxsamz:That's your view. I do NOT believe your insinuation neither do I subscribe to it's truthfulness!. Since you've put your statement of BELIEF in black and white: If of a TRUTH you don't subscribe to the truthfulness that your creator is a white transgendered lesbian and for Bacteriologist it's a unicorn BUT you BELIEVE what you know as UNTRUE, then both of you are the chief's of FOOLS! |
Re: How Did God Make Himself by shadeyinka(m): 5:08am On Nov 26, 2020 |
HellVictorinho: HellVictorinho:I am quite sure you didn't read my posts nor the preceding arguments before this your comment as it started with a response to Martian who belive that the origin of everything including God was these "primordial forces" Martian(m): Quoted Post My argument was that a force CANNOT self exist: it needs a SOURCE which means that, that source will be the Fundamental Creative Entity GOD and not just forces. Secondly, I dont know why you got the notion that I said or mean that "It is possible for NOTHING to exist!" Check out my quote in response to Bacteriologist: shadeyinka:The fundamental principle was that there was an Uncaused First Cause who is the origin of everything else: Hence it is stupidity to ask for how the Uncaused First cause created himself from nothing. |
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