muller101:
Even this one that is currently on top of an ox at the moment

SAVE UR SHAME.... STOP TELLING THE PUBLIC ABOUT UR BESTIALITY ACT!!

joyandfaith:


What God says matter, not what we think.

Y don't you type ur own version of what God says, we keep hiding under religion.

Very essential.. don't trynna listen to folks who gonna say sex is not important. For ur info during Jesus and Muhammad time they marry so early so most of them that time marry without having sex. But now you gonna some folks at 40 years ain't marry yet why coz of lack of money. Body ain't firewood matured body gonna need sex. I support sex during relationship it's help and create bond young fella.

Misslilbootay
1. Yes men can stay in relationship without sex
2. It depends on the kind of man. It can be important to a man because he sees it as a means of releasing tension. And yes some men see it as reciprocating. Look most relationships these days are transactional.
3. Now you hit on the big irony. Men want decent/virgin girls but they still want sex from the girl they may not even marry.
It's up to the girl to decide whether the relationship is the one that is leading to marriage, if it is, she can agree to his request for sex. However, nothing is guaranteed.

Misslilbootay:
I am not a virgin because the guy I dated before made it seem like sex was the only thing that could keep him.
Unfortunately, that is another story of its own.


Recently, a friend of mine came and asked me if sex was necessary to keep a relationship. She told me the guy has given her everything she needed in a man but he couldn't stop asking for sex. She said that she wasn't ready to compromise her faith that premarital sex was a sin but she didn't want to lose this guy as he felt that her refusal to have sex with him meant she didn't love him.

The question I'm throwing now is
1. Can a man stay without sex in a relationship and wait till she is ready. (As in this case, she wants to wait till she is married)
2. Why is sex so important to men in a relationship? Do they see it as reciprocating of love especially when they spend heavily on the lady?
3. Also, most men wants a decent lady. Here is a lady who wants to keep herself for her husband but the boyfriend sees it as she manipulating him. Since you guys want a lady that isn't a borehole, why do you demand for sex when you are not sure if it will work out?

Your intelligent opinions will be appreciated.

Yes. I mean No

Which Useless and senseless Thread and question be this?

Which kind play Dog dey play with Lion??

Misslilbootay:
I am not a virgin because the guy I dated before made it seem like sex was the only thing that could keep him.
Unfortunately, that is another story of its own.


Recently, a friend of mine came and asked me if sex was necessary to keep a relationship. She told me the guy has given her everything she needed in a man but he couldn't stop asking for sex. She said that she wasn't ready to compromise her faith that premarital sex was a sin but she didn't want to lose this guy as he felt that her refusal to have sex with him meant she didn't love him.

The question I'm throwing now is
1. Can a man stay without sex in a relationship and wait till she is ready. (As in this case, she wants to wait till she is married)
2. Why is sex so important to men in a relationship? Do they see it as reciprocating of love especially when they spend heavily on the lady?
3. Also, most men wants a decent lady. Here is a lady who wants to keep herself for her husband but the boyfriend sees it as she manipulating him. Since you guys want a lady that isn't a borehole, why do you demand for sex when you are not sure if it will work out?

Your intelligent opinions will be appreciated.

dayo20002002:
Pre- marital sex is a sin in which ever way we see it. The body is meant to be kept till wedding's night.

Ok pls quote a bible section that says sex b4 marriage is a SIN,I really like to understand this and not what pastor says

The truth about sex is that most ladies that pretend not to like sex actually do and from past events guys don't believe when ladies claim to do away with sex. I once had a lady who was demanding for sex but l told her till married because l never had it myself. In summary we later had sex but l told her till after marriage. She accepted but later dating older man that was having regular sex with her. When l ask her she replied because l did not love her and that l was avoiding her. We did not later marry. Since then any woman l date l bleeped.

That man may even be in that relationship with a sole reason to defile her. And after he will go and marry the one that resisted him before.
To your friend to make peace with God, before it will be too late. That which she has is priceless tell her not to lose it because she will certainly regret it tomorrow.

The one that you loss your precious virtue to where is he today?

Is money necessary in a relationship?
Let the guy keep his money till after marriage 50/50

angelfallz:


Lol in the Bible sexual purity for men is not mentioned. In most cultures sexual purity is expected from women not men.

I stand to be corrected.

In the same Bible?

It is sir.

From Jesus' teachings on Marriage to Proverbs 4 and Proverbs 7 to Galatians 5: 19 etc.

Bible especially new testament does not genderilize sin.

Christians are neither male nor female spiritually. We are spirits and God expects us to worship Him in spirit and in truth.

erico2k2:

Ok pls quote a bible section that says sex b4 marriage is a SIN,I really like to understand this and not what pastor says

how about we try Hebrews 13 :4 it talks about pre and extramarital sex...

Acts 15 :19-20


Matthew 5 : 28


Mark 7:22-23

erico2k2:

you think I do not understand? let me say something here, Im one of the few people who managed to read the whole bible and the whole Quran. Religion is a belief and guides us end off,If you go back to read it properly the bible cannot give you any satisfactory rule as to marriage cos there is nowhere where it supports you marrying just one woman and not having ladies at the side ie king Solomon and co!
We in Africa need to get off this bondage, This is how people always scream God of Isreal until they get to Isreal and realise they ain't Christians!

There are both christianity and Judaism in israel .
I do not expect you to agree. Even today people justify stealing , corruption, bribery and even murder.
People have no regard for God law.
I come in peace.


Arguement over internet is stupidity.

Misslilbootay:
I am not a virgin because the guy I dated before made it seem like sex was the only thing that could keep him.
Unfortunately, that is another story of its own.


Recently, a friend of mine came and asked me if sex was necessary to keep a relationship. She told me the guy has given her everything she needed in a man but he couldn't stop asking for sex. She said that she wasn't ready to compromise her faith that premarital sex was a sin but she didn't want to lose this guy as he felt that her refusal to have sex with him meant she didn't love him.

The question I'm throwing now is
1. Can a man stay without sex in a relationship and wait till she is ready. (As in this case, she wants to wait till she is married)
2. Why is sex so important to men in a relationship? Do they see it as reciprocating of love especially when they spend heavily on the lady?
3. Also, most men wants a decent lady. Here is a lady who wants to keep herself for her husband but the boyfriend sees it as she manipulating him. Since you guys want a lady that isn't a borehole, why do you demand for sex when you are not sure if it will work out?

Your intelligent opinions will be appreciated.

1. Can a man stay without sex in a relationship and wait till she is ready. (As in this case, she wants to wait till she is married)
Yes! I waited 'for two and a half years until we got married
2. Why is sex so important to men in a relationship? Do they see it as reciprocating of love especially when they spend heavily on the lady?
Men are created that way: sex is one of the biggest way a man uses to convince himself that he is loved just like ladies like a man to express love by verbal expressions and kind gestures. But Love isn't sex and sex isn't a proof of love.
In an unmarried relationship, on the day sex enters the relationship, the value of the lady diminishes. If she is not careful, she becomes just a mere means of sexual fulfilment for the man. In marriage, it is a bond for better for worse sex or no sex.
3. Also, most men wants a decent lady. Here is a lady who wants to keep herself for her husband but the boyfriend sees it as she manipulating him.
Sex doesn't keep any relationship from breaking.

Ladies should know that a man can have sex with someone he is not emotionally attracted/attached to. Sexual purity promotes trust in marriage.

Any man who threatens to live a relationship because of sex does not love you one bit. The fact that you give in doesnt prevent him from leaving whenever he has had his fill

merits:

It's possible to do so, because I took the risk from my house wife,I sponsored her for school and waited for seven years before sex.it is not easy sha, but if the guy truly love her he would stay no matter what.tell her never to compromise her virginity for gifts from someone.it as a reward if she can let her husband be the lucky guy.i am living witness InshaAllah.

Odikwa risky. You took a huge risk, bigger than betting 10,000 odds on Bet9ja. Luckily you won the wager. I have heard of many people that committed or contemplated suicide after they lost out, and the girl brought up silly excuses like "my pastor said you are not my husband".

fati2001:


SAVE UR SHAME.... STOP TELLING THE PUBLIC ABOUT UR BESTIALITY ACT!!

NL freak

Well, for me I can't stay without sex in a relationship.. If she's not OK with it, we go our separate ways.period!!

CalliDora1:
Capital NO!

Only wordly men and sinners practice premarital sex. Take it or leave it!

Spirituality asides. Sex does not keep a man or determine a successful relationship or marriage.

Morally speaking, it is not good. Keep your chastity. It pays.

Only worldly women and men, okay? Including you sista.

It is not black and white. It depends on the parties involved. It also depends on the time frame. For those who are spiritually sound, it might be easier for them to distract themselves from it since they believe it has grave consequences.

For those who are wordly, it is the simplest way to spell distrust. A woman might feel she wants to keep herself but if she is genuinely in love, she would struggle with the temptation to give in at every opportunity. Those who do not struggle are simply not in love or do not trust their partners.
For a man who is genuinely in love but is worldly, he would be resentful at the lack of trust after a while. In the beginning, he might comply out of respect but as time goes by, it would be difficult. The solution is to get it elsewhere or continue to persuade.
It is a very natural phenomena and if one wants to truly abstain, one should not be involved in entanglements.
When I was younger, I thought I was disciplined but now I realize that my sex drive is unnaturally low.

muller101:
NL freak

yeah... NL freak that's against negative things in our society.... * so proud *

Uzomacharles:


And where did God mention girlfriend and boyfriend relationship..


Is only in sex we remember Bible and God...

NB: those speaking against it are only but hypocrites

Misslilbootay:


God didn't mention relationship but he did say fornication is a sin he will judge by himself.

Can you see a lady and just marry her without first doing courtship?

Isaac didn't court Rebecca neither did any Bible character we extol today did!

joyandfaith:


There are both christianity and Judaism in israel .
I do not expect you to agree. Even today people justify stealing , corruption, bribery and even murder.
People have no regard for God law.
I come in peace.


Arguement over internet is stupidity.

Have you been to isreal b4 cos I have and the Christian sites are for tourist and the Judaism site are for religion only. The Christian sides bear no conflict with the Muslim rather the Judaism sites are heavily armed and guarded. The everyday Israeli is practising Judaism, it's very hard to see an Israeli abroad who is a Christian, these are fact, I lived in the N8 region of North London for 8 years plus. the vast majority of us back in 9ja assume 2 much, Some do not even know that this one wife per man shyte was proclaimed by king James version who was king of England!

fati2001:


how about we try Hebrews 13 :4 it talks about pre and extramarital sex...

y don't you just quote it here

Hebrews 13:4, KJV: "Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge." ... Hebrews 13:4, CSB: "Marriage is to be honoured by all and the marriage bed kept undefiled because God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterers."


Look at this passage it was talking about marriage, married Persons there is no declaration or law here, if it was among the commandments then we understand
Just so you know, Adultery can only be committed by a married person not an unmarried person cos vast majority of us jump into that bandwagon that once you have sex and you are not married you are committing Adultry

Premarital sex is sin. Let
the sister keep to her decision not to do it until she is married. Sex is no proof of love or loving somebody. If the guy really love her , he should respect her faith/decision. Sex is for bonding to people who are married. Thanks.

A relationship is not about one thing.
It's about several things.
So,if two people must be in a relationship,they will have to deal with several things towards staying in it or ending it.
I don't think two people should remain together if it doesn't favour both of them.
Whatever children that are derived from such cases cannot make it necessary for them to remain together.
Such offspring (s) will only make it worse for either or both people since the relationship is ridiculous.
If I am going to be in a relationship,I will say what I want and like for as long as I want and like.
If our differences won't permit US,I will also tell you in order for Hell not to let loose the way it shouldn't.

danniekute:
Premarital sex is sin. Let
the sister keep to her decision not to do it until she is married. Sex is no proof of love or loving somebody. If the guy really love her , he should respect her faith/decision. Sex is for bonding to people who are married. Thanks.

What do you call SEX B4 marriage in the Bible what is the name given to this act

erico2k2:

y don't you just quote it here

to engage in premarital and extramarital sex , before or outside marriage..is a sin in the sight of GOD

Nazgul:
To me sex isn't necessary.

From my past relationships, if I'm to advice any girl I'll tell them to avoid sex and stand on it. Sex makes you suspicious of your partner. It makes you have unnecessary problems, unnecessary commitments, unnecessary responsibilities.... etc. How many guys would you keep offering your body to just to make them stay?

What makes most guys wants sex is when the financial demand from the girl becomes too much. Most girls will tell you that they're not ready for sex, but will still want you to show dedicated financial commitments towards them. No guy will ever agree to that.

Many girls naturally lack wisdom. Let me share a my own experience here. I met this girl some years ago, she told me her usual no sex till marriage. I asked her if she's a virgin she said no that she dated just one guy who broke her heart and now she has decided to zip up till her wedding night.

To me, I didn't have any problem with that. My problem was that this girl literally flirts on the phone with guys even in my presence. When I confront her she'll tell me they're just toasters that she doesn't have anything with them. She receives calls like a call center agent. Always on Facebook and WhatsApp till even midnight. And to make matters worse she's the urgent 2k type. So tell me would any guy in my shoes honour her request to date without sex....of course not. I had to end the whole stuff cos she wasn't contributing to my life in anyway. Most times I initiate a discussion with her on chat, she can't even sustain it without indirectly telling me one problem or the other she has.

My take...if you don't want sex in a relationship and you don't want to have any problem with your man concerning your stand, then avoid unnecessary request so it won't make him feel that you're owing him. Avoid flirting with other guys on phone and in reality. Concentrate on your relationship by looking for ways to make an impact in his life. It could be through business ideas, could be counseling, could be partnership in business, education...etc. also develop yourself. Let him see that your life is progressing. That you're successful in whatever it is that you're into.

Make him see you as someone he can't do without and he'll stick to you regardless of your no sex stand.

chaiii your head is there.

fati2001:


to engage in premarital and extramarital sex , before or outside marriage..is a sin in the sight of GOD

What is the name of this sin an? U see I believe in what the bible says not MAN, so where in the Bible does it blatantly say its a sin just like it says killing is a SIN.
The one issue we have with yah lot is you take what man tells you and that of the pastor as law without bothering doing ur own research,

erico2k2:

Have you been to isreal b4 cos I have and the Christian sites are for tourist and the Judaism site are for religion only. The Christian sides bear no conflict with the Muslim rather the Judaism sites are heavily armed and guarded. The everyday Israeli is practising Judaism, it's very hard to see an Israeli abroad who is a Christian, these are fact, I lived in the N8 region of North London for 8 years plus. the vast majority of us back in 9ja assume 2 much, Some do not even know that this one wife per man shyte was proclaimed by king James version who was king of England!

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/05/10/5-facts-about-israeli-christians/

Online argument is stupidity
https://www.theexceptionalskills.com/arguing-on-the-internet/

shadeyinka:

1. Can a man stay without sex in a relationship and wait till she is ready. (As in this case, she wants to wait till she is married)
Yes! I waited 'for two and a half years until we got married

Different strokes for different folks. There are more that 7 billion people on earth each with different personalities. That you could wait for two and a half years does not make it the standard of other men. Some can't wait for one month.

2. Why is sex so important to men in a relationship? Do they see it as reciprocating of love especially when they spend heavily on the lady?

Yes, sex is very important to men in most relationships. A sexless marriage or relationship is likely to fail.

Why should the man invest heavily financially and emotionally if he gains nothing from the relationship? What differentiates the relationship from any other relationship?

Men are created that way: sex is one of the biggest way a man uses to convince himself that he is loved just like ladies like a man to express love by verbal expressions and kind gestures. But Love isn't sex and sex isn't a proof of love.
In an unmarried relationship, on the day sex enters the relationship, the value of the lady diminishes. If she is not careful, she becomes just a mere means of sexual fulfilment for the man. In marriage, it is a bond for better for worse sex or no sex.

As I said, different strokes for different folks. I have a friend who married his wife because he slept with her the same day they met, and he always boasts of it. He is a successful lawyer today.

3. Also, most men wants a decent lady. Here is a lady who wants to keep herself for her husband but the boyfriend sees it as she manipulating him.

Same as above. You don't speak for all men.

Sex doesn't keep any relationship from breaking.

You obviously have never been to divorce court and hear the reason for filing for divorce. Most times sex plays a part.

Ladies should know that a man can have sex with someone he is not emotionally attracted/attached to. Sexual purity promotes trust in marriage.

Define sexual purity. If you are talking about body count before marriage. Then there is no scientific data to suggest that virgins have more successful marriages than their non virgin counterparts.

Any man who threatens to live a relationship because of sex does not love you one bit. The fact that you give in doesnt prevent him from leaving whenever he has had his fill

True. Also the fact that you don't give in also does not guarantee he marries you or that if he marries you the marriage will be a successful one. It would even be a travesty if he marries you because of his desire to break your virginity.